This was very insightful. I can definitely identify the master and slave archetypes in todays society. And the perspective on suffering presented in this video is spot on.
I’ve always found Nietzsche nearly incomprehensible (I am mostly self educated and was trying to broaden my understanding of Philosophy). Too many words, making too many loops. Maybe I needed more foundation information rather than jumping in where I did. This explanation untangled the language and made the concept decipherable. Thank You.
Controversial! … about the new, the created and the lost, the destroyed. Everything is a cycle, reality is not invented, however it is created, so creation is innovation, but it doesn’t become reality until it is finished conceiving. Writing poetry is a stripping of souls and glances, from back to front between lights and shadows, ideas and sighs in unison, but until the work, the poem or the book is finished, it is not yet a reality. Sometimes some write it and others publish it as if it were theirs without having been born from their hands, what has been born from their hands is the economic, monetary power that materializes even the lie. So where is the new created with what was lost and destroyed really?! ... values, definitely values. The fear of God is what purifies human existence that in one way or another suffers when seeking the good and the will of God. Great topic as usual! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Neoliberal capitalism is democratic socialism rebranded. Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Barak Obama, and Justin Trudeau are all neoliberals. That’s why social justice is today a critique about sexual power rather than economic power.
Classic Science Fiction confronted the concepts of "Modern Philosophy" that masquerade as reform and progress for years. Change was needed in the 17th century, but not for something far worse. My High School required readings of 1984, Animal Farm, and Brave New World. Those motivated more reading: Anarchaos (highly recommended, Westlake provides a list of "Modern Philosophy" transgressors*), The Weapon Shops Of Isher, The World of Null A, Starship Troopers, A Plague of Demons and many more History and Economics texts caused a look at "Modern Philosophy" from 1970 to 1980. Conclusions then and now; "Modern Philosophy" appears to have been financed by old European wealthy and corporate monopolies who were losing their grip on power to Christianity and Western Civilization. These remarkably immoral, regressive, and childish philosophies seem to be designed to reestablish Kingdoms, Feudalism, Serfdom, and the British Economic Colonization system of free trade slavery. Thru Anarchy, Pessimism, Atheism, Nihilism, then Existentialism, etc. they hoped to produce a miseducated population (largely accomplished now). Preventing honest, benevolent education, reform, and rational philosophical thought. While creating historyless primitives and Sociopathic Nietzscheian "Higher" men who would do anything for money and power. The Founding of the USA, with it's Constitutionally codified Laws and Rights, spurred even greater and more detailed attempts. Just looking at where these "philosophers" worked and who they were financed by and their complete absence of any moral authority indicates a lot. Many also had a history of mental illness. Marxist (Politburo as Royalty) mass crime as government rapidly grew straight out of these deliberately confusing Dialectical misdirection, contradiction, and circular logic semantic exercises in "intellectual" depravity. "Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind" - Orwell. The results of the morally ambiguous who utilized "Modern Philosophy" concepts as "intellectual revolutionaries" are plain to see. Kingdoms, Mass murder, Communism, Gulags, Rehabilitation camps, Hitler. Stalinism. Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Castro. The last 230 years of human history have seen unprecedented intentional mass murder in and out of peacetime, The French Revolution, 2 apocalyptic wars, 170 million people murdered by their Marxist/Fascist governments. Amoral, immoral, atheistic Modern Philosophy concepts contributed heavily by the perpetrators own words. The Modern Philosophy Religion is a disaster. "I didn't know you read Kant? Can't read, you mean."- Keith Laumer All research points to Nietzsche having been born with Syphilis. His father probably died from Syphilis. Nietzsche would not just have had a brain riddled with Syphilis. He would also have been suffering from silver poisoning, the treatment used then. And whatever mental instabilities would arise from a lifetime of horrible illness. A hatred of the concept of God? That anyone would choose a gospel (followers of Nietzsche and "Modern Philosophy") are using Nietzsche as Christ and a religion (just as Marxists use Marx and Marxism as religion), while knowing he was likely a raving madman and was locked away, is extremely bizarre. So, what philosophy? I suggest very basic. Regardless of solipsism, virtual reality or whether or not you are file folder 427THX1138, we have to live in the real world with real world consequences: The Ten Commandments, The Golden Rule, and The Scientific Method/Isolation Troubleshooting problem solving. Most people do this naturally, anyway. You do not have to be religious to see that the Golden Rule and The Ten Commandments are beneficial Philosophies. This Philosophy can be applied to any problem - Economic, Ethical, Scientific, Philosophical, Personal, etc., without moral ambiguities, and without much risk of some unwise unplanned catastrophic result. *I would add Adam Smith, Hegel, Marx, Neitzsche, Kant, Camus, Bertrand Russell, Marcuse, Sartre, and any other "modern philosopher" who promotes the concepts that have contributed to massive death, destruction, and repression and will continue to do so in the future, to Westlake's list.
Better to have lived-in the world of the predictor than be witness to the culmination of the prediction. *note: please refrain from "all the way things are better" arguments, I get it & it's not the point.
@@davesmith5656 c'mon, you are having a go at me right? If not that's fine, I'll clarify. I take reality as it is. Which means 1) I accept that I live in the Present, and 2) I harbor no wishes of a magic machine transporting me back to 19th century Deutschland! It was merely commentary on the current state of affairs.
Because he infamously stated that “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?” One could make the case that this idea set the stage (or contributed) to the gargantuan, wholesale slaughter that ensued in the 20th century and onward. The “superego” of religion was removed and the monsters from the Id arose.
@@lifemasterkris1865 His criticism can be argued that the church failed to hold people accountable and keep their faith, slowly leading to the lack of faith that occurred prior to this 20th century slaughter. Hitler used his ideas and words out of context and to fit his narradigm. WE did kill GOD, He just pointed it out and people keep saying he advocated it. He also warned it would lead to the slaughter....which christians fail to mention.
@@lifemasterkris1865 Does it really make sense to blame Nietzsche for causing a disaster that he predicted with trepidation and sought unsuccessfully to forestall? Nietzsche's fault wasn't in predicting what he did. He was spot-on in that regard. His fault was in discounting the only viable solution -- the resurrection of a single God aligned with life-seekers rather than Last Men -- in favor of the non-solution of individual value creation... which, ironically, tends to create the exact sort of pluralistic chaos most inclined to foster the development of Last Men.
Sorry, Nietzsche got the parts about reality and values a bit too complicated. Reality is rather easily perceivable as what is in front of you, what you can see, smell, touch, taste, and stub your toes on. It can be distorted by misperception (thus, stubbed toes). This is not complicated stuff at all. Values are matters of choosing direction. More specifically, morals are to reality, as values (or principles) are to ethics. Aristotle discussed all and more at length in Nicomachean Ethics and in Eudemian Ethics.
We chose our paths before each of us is born , when still 'Spirit' . If this path happens to include pain and suffering , it's always for a reason ; as family and more , have found out , at the time of their passing . It helped a lot with some , for themselves to 'die Happy' . Some went thru the fear , their selves generated for no reason , as their in no thing to fear in death of the physical , it's the means by which we pass from life time to life- time . To pass thru that door , all that we know , must be given up , for it is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle , than it is for a rich man to enter heaven - you inherit a body of light , yet now much of the emotions , which are strong enough to be sensed , 👍😀 I've been there once , and all other times , there's been blockage , due to yet completed buisness here . Namaste 🙏💜🙏💐
"What Nietzsche ultimately says, is that, 'Reason does not exist.'" Garbage. Not worth the time it took to hear it. Edit to add explanation. There are those with evil intent who would undermine, confuse, and destroy, as part of their "unfortunate" nature. "Modern philosophy" has, imo, as evidenced by that statement, fallen to make replies to spurious arguments which have no aim to clarify, but rather to obscure. A philosophy professor once told me that Descartes' "I think, therefore I am" is "philosophically invalid because the predicate precedes the subject". That isn't philosophy at all, it is semantics, or syntax, and we should call in the language department experts. My point is that philosophers get distracted by hostilities such as, "You cannot prove that you exist". One should, imo, avoid distractions that make rational working men laugh at philosophy, and focus philosophy on practicality - and a statement denying that reason exists is, indeed, laughable. "How do you think that you think that you think that you think ..." to the Nth! Garbage! Placing one brick onto another is reason. Why do we waste time bothering to reply to garbage? Is it because we are unable to confront reality - and that we are too weak in insightful reasoning to connect causes and effects? Is it because we are unable to handle it when someone says, "You are wrong", by asking, "What is right, then?" Someone looking into philosophy is presumably seeking some insight into life, and not there looking for an argument he might much more easily find in a Monty Python video, "Argument".
Great analysis. But, we have to waste time listening to the garbage of "Modern Philosophy" to recant Kant and all the other Communist philosophers who are trying to return us, for the Oligarchical Collectivists of the new world order, to the Dark Ages. What climate change craziness is about, too.
Slave morality sounds like modern snowflake and victim culture. All stress testing either makes the material tested stronger or it breaks it. Exercise makes muscles and bones stronger; suffering makes the human character and spirit stronger.
These are brilliant words of wisdom. Thank you for sharing.
This was very insightful. I can definitely identify the master and slave archetypes in todays society. And the perspective on suffering presented in this video is spot on.
This is a great course to take for free online. I will go for it.
I’ve always found Nietzsche nearly incomprehensible (I am mostly self educated and was trying to broaden my understanding of Philosophy). Too many words, making too many loops. Maybe I needed more foundation information rather than jumping in where I did. This explanation untangled the language and made the concept decipherable. Thank You.
Try Hegel if you really want to read something incomprehensible.
One of my favorite philosophers: Nathan Schlueter.
From Buddha to Spinoza and the Quakers to Nietzsche: The dream of Enlightened Anarchy. If only humans weren't so human.
Exactamundo 😊
Just an algorithm boosting comment. Thanks Hillsdale for the great content as always!
Excellent
Controversial! … about the new, the created and the lost, the destroyed. Everything is a cycle, reality is not invented, however it is created, so creation is innovation, but it doesn’t become reality until it is finished conceiving. Writing poetry is a stripping of souls and glances, from back to front between lights and shadows, ideas and sighs in unison, but until the work, the poem or the book is finished, it is not yet a reality. Sometimes some write it and others publish it as if it were theirs without having been born from their hands, what has been born from their hands is the economic, monetary power that materializes even the lie. So where is the new created with what was lost and destroyed really?! ... values, definitely values. The fear of God is what purifies human existence that in one way or another suffers when seeking the good and the will of God. Great topic as usual! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
Hence why chronologies of postmodern thought, in which all claims to truth are relative, regularly begin with him.
I can't get enough of these. Hard part is actualization.
Nietzsche was an especially articulate adolescent.
Very interesting.
Outstanding…Do you have a more in depth course?
Yes. You can visit hillsdale.edu/philosophy and sign up for this course or 30+ others for free.
I’m puzzled by the decision to remove Friedrich Nietzsche’s entire video from Hillsdale College’s website.
Replace 'democratic socialism' with 'neoliberal capitalism'.
There, I fixed it.
Neoliberal capitalism is democratic socialism rebranded. Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Barak Obama, and Justin Trudeau are all neoliberals. That’s why social justice is today a critique about sexual power rather than economic power.
Great
Sort of the opposite of the Maslow Hierarchy of Needs.
Excellence.
Classic Science Fiction confronted the concepts of "Modern Philosophy" that masquerade as reform and progress for years. Change was needed in the 17th century, but not for something far worse. My High School required readings of 1984, Animal Farm, and Brave New World. Those motivated more reading: Anarchaos (highly recommended, Westlake provides a list of "Modern Philosophy" transgressors*), The Weapon Shops Of Isher, The World of Null A, Starship Troopers, A Plague of Demons and many more History and Economics texts caused a look at "Modern Philosophy" from 1970 to 1980.
Conclusions then and now; "Modern Philosophy" appears to have been financed by old European wealthy and corporate monopolies who were losing their grip on power to Christianity and Western Civilization. These remarkably immoral, regressive, and childish philosophies seem to be designed to reestablish Kingdoms, Feudalism, Serfdom, and the British Economic Colonization system of free trade slavery. Thru Anarchy, Pessimism, Atheism, Nihilism, then Existentialism, etc. they hoped to produce a miseducated population (largely accomplished now). Preventing honest, benevolent education, reform, and rational philosophical thought. While creating historyless primitives and Sociopathic Nietzscheian "Higher" men who would do anything for money and power.
The Founding of the USA, with it's Constitutionally codified Laws and Rights, spurred even greater and more detailed attempts. Just looking at where these "philosophers" worked and who they were financed by and their complete absence of any moral authority indicates a lot. Many also had a history of mental illness.
Marxist (Politburo as Royalty) mass crime as government rapidly grew straight out of these deliberately confusing Dialectical misdirection, contradiction, and circular logic semantic exercises in "intellectual" depravity. "Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind" - Orwell. The results of the morally ambiguous who utilized "Modern Philosophy" concepts as "intellectual revolutionaries" are plain to see. Kingdoms, Mass murder, Communism, Gulags, Rehabilitation camps, Hitler. Stalinism. Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Castro.
The last 230 years of human history have seen unprecedented intentional mass murder in and out of peacetime, The French Revolution, 2 apocalyptic wars, 170 million people murdered by their Marxist/Fascist governments. Amoral, immoral, atheistic Modern Philosophy concepts contributed heavily by the perpetrators own words. The Modern Philosophy Religion is a disaster.
"I didn't know you read Kant? Can't read, you mean."- Keith Laumer
All research points to Nietzsche having been born with Syphilis. His father probably died from Syphilis.
Nietzsche would not just have had a brain riddled with Syphilis. He would also have been suffering from silver poisoning, the treatment used then. And whatever mental instabilities would arise from a lifetime of horrible illness. A hatred of the concept of God?
That anyone would choose a gospel (followers of Nietzsche and "Modern Philosophy") are using Nietzsche as Christ and a religion (just as Marxists use Marx and Marxism as religion), while knowing he was likely a raving madman and was locked away, is extremely bizarre.
So, what philosophy? I suggest very basic. Regardless of solipsism, virtual reality or whether or not you are file folder 427THX1138, we have to live in the real world with real world consequences: The Ten Commandments, The Golden Rule, and The Scientific Method/Isolation Troubleshooting problem solving. Most people do this naturally, anyway. You do not have to be religious to see that the Golden Rule and The Ten Commandments are beneficial Philosophies.
This Philosophy can be applied to any problem - Economic, Ethical, Scientific, Philosophical, Personal, etc., without moral ambiguities, and without much risk of some unwise unplanned catastrophic result.
*I would add Adam Smith, Hegel, Marx, Neitzsche, Kant, Camus, Bertrand Russell, Marcuse, Sartre, and any other "modern philosopher" who promotes the concepts that have contributed to massive death, destruction, and repression and will continue to do so in the future, to Westlake's list.
I keep my morality high you not make nor walk to bad morals…
This was a great summary.
They know every dog has his day on the Day of Judgment, so they’re okay with death.
So, Dogs and Cats are master moralist?
Neitzchie got through many long and difficult nights by contemplating suicide.
2022 America looks like 1922 Berlin-
The current "master reality" created both conditions.
The Weimar Republic guaranteed WW2.
@@joebrooks4448 Bolshevism ensured ww2
Russian work/re education camps began in 1917
@@traddad9172 The Weimar government cooperated.
Better to have lived-in the world of the predictor than be witness to the culmination of the prediction.
*note: please refrain from "all the way things are better" arguments, I get it & it's not the point.
I see your point in a pessimistic world, but what if the predictor predicts better times?
@@davesmith5656 c'mon, you are having a go at me right? If not that's fine, I'll clarify. I take reality as it is. Which means 1) I accept that I live in the Present, and 2) I harbor no wishes of a magic machine transporting me back to 19th century Deutschland! It was merely commentary on the current state of affairs.
A lot of christians dislike him but he was critical of the church bc it deserved criticisms.
Because he infamously stated that “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?”
One could make the case that this idea set the stage (or contributed) to the gargantuan, wholesale slaughter that ensued in the 20th century and onward. The “superego” of religion was removed and the monsters from the Id arose.
@@lifemasterkris1865 His criticism can be argued that the church failed to hold people accountable and keep their faith, slowly leading to the lack of faith that occurred prior to this 20th century slaughter. Hitler used his ideas and words out of context and to fit his narradigm. WE did kill GOD, He just pointed it out and people keep saying he advocated it. He also warned it would lead to the slaughter....which christians fail to mention.
@@lifemasterkris1865 Does it really make sense to blame Nietzsche for causing a disaster that he predicted with trepidation and sought unsuccessfully to forestall?
Nietzsche's fault wasn't in predicting what he did. He was spot-on in that regard. His fault was in discounting the only viable solution -- the resurrection of a single God aligned with life-seekers rather than Last Men -- in favor of the non-solution of individual value creation... which, ironically, tends to create the exact sort of pluralistic chaos most inclined to foster the development of Last Men.
Will you please break down Ayn Rands philosophy at some point?
That’s easy: go for it!
It's pretty straightforward. "Me, me, me. Mine, mine, mine."
Marxism
How do we know dogs don't ponder their mortality.
You'd have to be a dog to know.
I queried my dog about this and he said that it all matters who’s paying for the funeral.
Nitche is my favorite but so hard to understand. I said to my friend you don't suffer enough that's why you are so short.
😂
Physical labor can be discouraging
Sorry, Nietzsche got the parts about reality and values a bit too complicated. Reality is rather easily perceivable as what is in front of you, what you can see, smell, touch, taste, and stub your toes on. It can be distorted by misperception (thus, stubbed toes). This is not complicated stuff at all. Values are matters of choosing direction. More specifically, morals are to reality, as values (or principles) are to ethics. Aristotle discussed all and more at length in Nicomachean Ethics and in Eudemian Ethics.
We chose our paths before each of us is born , when still 'Spirit' .
If this path happens to include pain and suffering , it's always for a reason ; as family and more , have found out , at the time of their passing . It helped a lot with some , for themselves to 'die Happy' . Some went thru the fear , their selves generated for no reason , as their in no thing to fear in death of the physical , it's the means by which we pass from life time to life- time .
To pass thru that door , all that we know , must be given up , for it is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle , than it is for a rich man to enter heaven - you inherit a body of light , yet now much of the emotions , which are strong enough to be sensed , 👍😀
I've been there once , and all other times , there's been blockage , due to yet completed buisness here .
Namaste 🙏💜🙏💐
Amen keep going to the end then become really alive for the first time in your life!
Good one you!
This seems a lil cherry-picky and religiously biased, but a beautiful vid nonetheless--a Nietzchean would say 👀
I understand your sarcasm, but he actually summarized it very well.
Idealistic, regressive ("master and slave", really?) and muddled.
14th, 24 August 2022
"What Nietzsche ultimately says, is that, 'Reason does not exist.'" Garbage. Not worth the time it took to hear it.
Edit to add explanation. There are those with evil intent who would undermine, confuse, and destroy, as part of their "unfortunate" nature. "Modern philosophy" has, imo, as evidenced by that statement, fallen to make replies to spurious arguments which have no aim to clarify, but rather to obscure. A philosophy professor once told me that Descartes' "I think, therefore I am" is "philosophically invalid because the predicate precedes the subject". That isn't philosophy at all, it is semantics, or syntax, and we should call in the language department experts. My point is that philosophers get distracted by hostilities such as, "You cannot prove that you exist".
One should, imo, avoid distractions that make rational working men laugh at philosophy, and focus philosophy on practicality - and a statement denying that reason exists is, indeed, laughable. "How do you think that you think that you think that you think ..." to the Nth! Garbage!
Placing one brick onto another is reason. Why do we waste time bothering to reply to garbage? Is it because we are unable to confront reality - and that we are too weak in insightful reasoning to connect causes and effects? Is it because we are unable to handle it when someone says, "You are wrong", by asking, "What is right, then?" Someone looking into philosophy is presumably seeking some insight into life, and not there looking for an argument he might much more easily find in a Monty Python video, "Argument".
Great analysis. But, we have to waste time listening to the garbage of "Modern Philosophy" to recant Kant and all the other Communist philosophers who are trying to return us, for the Oligarchical Collectivists of the new world order, to the Dark Ages.
What climate change craziness is about, too.
Slave morality sounds like modern snowflake and victim culture. All stress testing either makes the material tested stronger or it breaks it. Exercise makes muscles and bones stronger; suffering makes the human character and spirit stronger.
How can you end it there...cmon dude. You talk at length about nierchze (sp) but then you just cut it off.
Animals again?😂
Nietzsche was a neckbeard