It is in fact canon! In fact it takes place immediately following the comic story, Liberation of the Daleks which RTD confirmed is the canonical first adventure for the 14th Doctor and covers the first 60 minutes of this Doctor's life, which is why he says in this "60 minutes ago I was this really brilliant woman" It lines up!
This is definetly not cannon based om the backlash it's righftully getting. Also agree that Sh*ttaker was anything bit brilliant. RTD has sadly been Chibnalled and i now firmly believe the show needs cancelling. Timeless Children was bad enough alone.
When you get to 4th doctor story Genesis of the Daleks this will make more sense. To answer your question Davros was a humanoid at one point but an accident leaves him disabled and badly burnt this is a sort of prequel to that
Debatable. Davros' accident and grtting his iconic look is such a short time and able before events of genesis doesn't work. It's TOO CLOSE in the timeline. The accident needs to happen earlier in dalek development or even before that.
As The Doctor says "The timelines of the canon are rupturing", which to me, might explain why Davros going forward will be a perfectly healthy looking and fully mobile character as RTD says Davros being confined to a wheelchair is too un-PC nowadays.
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Frankly, it's a daft mindset to have. Not sure if this bodes at all well. We don't quite know what goes on in the mind of the TARDIS itself and, for all we know, all this is a TARDIS generated dreamscape. It's silly enough to have been. "Oh look! I've time crashed Davros' tech lab at the moment of the Dalek's creation. We can have some fun here. Oh, I'm lucid dreaming! Can I do that? Of course I can! I'm lucid everywhere!"
And if you think that's wild, just wait until they release the Genesis of the Daleks: Special Edition, where all instances of Michael Wisher have been edited out and replaced with Julian Bleach. I jest, but it honestly feels like something with a non-zero chance of happening within our lifetimes.
Terrible! Davros never being in a wheelchair again. Changing a character because of “it being 2023” is just typical woke nonsense. Won’t be seeing Davros again. Well done RTD ffs! RTD2 is turning into Woke Who! Even worse than chibbers. A woke world :( Mark my words, it’s just going to be downhill from here.
RTD is in such a powerful position now, more powerful than when he was show runner back in 2005. Literally the BBC have handed Doctor Who over to him. In fact RTD is the one who has brought back the Christmas specials. He got the BBC to move it back to Saturday nights. So, if he says anything is canon, then his word is gospel from now until he leaves.
RTD is clearly taking the pee out of all those canon obsessed screamers that had mental breakdowns throughout the Chibnall era in particular but have always been out there. Well done RTD!
It's definitely canon. It doesn't contradict the already established canon, unlike, say, The Timeless Child....which is NOT canon. I really enjoyed this. A bit silly, but then consider The Curse of Fatal Death.
@@friendlyotaku9525 I know what you're saying, in that The Timeless Child has been presented on screen, and thus is "canon", however if The Timeless Child is going to be considered canon, we then need to accept that The Doctor is "half-human on his mother's side" as that was also presented on screen. At least THAT doesn't contradict established continuity, whereas the Timeless Child most certainly does (The Doctor had previously spoke of living with his family, of his parents, and of course on a number of occasions referred to the number of his incarnations, firmly establishing that the Hartnell Doctor was the FIRST). If RTD refuses to properly explain the Timeless Child away, I for one shall believe it was a deception of some sort on the part of The Master, or that the Jo Martin Doctor is an alternate universe Doctor (like Peter Cushing?).
To use your enjoyable 3rd decade of the 21st century vernacular, it is indeed 'canon man'. Well done with being one of the first reactors to upload your reaction.
I did enjoy this up until the point of the "unleashed" interview with Russell's stupid comment about Davros and saying he's not going to have him disabled anymore because apparently its offensive to people on wheelchairs which is just ridiculous.
This charity skit, by definition, is no more canonical than Dimensions In Time or The Curse of Fatal Death. As far as I'm concerned, unless something happens in the TV show proper, it's not canonical.
@@edwardguest1404 My criterion for canonicity remains that something should actually appear in the proper TV series, not a light-hearted sketch in a charity show, so I don't care what RTD might have said. It would be ridiculous if the Doctor "invented" the Daleks' plunger arm and gave them their name, never mind their war-cry of "Exterminate". If Russell was serious about these things being canonical, then frankly he's done far more damage to the canon in one 10 minute skit than Chris Chibnall did in his entire era.
Doctor Who doesn't have a canon: it has separate conflicting and variously irreconcilable continuities. A story may be "canon" in one timeline but not in another. The Night of the Doctor is "canon" in the timeline where Eight regenerated into the War Doctor (and One was the original incarnation); but it's not "canon" in the timeline where Eight regenerated into Nine, as depicted in Doctor Who and the Time War, which is equally valid. Destination: Skaro is "canon" to the timeline where the Fourteenth Doctor exists, but not in any timeline where the Doctor was limited to thirteen lives from birth. As far as I'm concerned, Series 11 and beyond is a wholly separate continuity from Series 1-4 (where Nine regenerated from Eight), and Series 5-10 (where Nine regenerated from the War Doctor).
@@joshuajoshua2732 Not really IMO, because as ive Said, its 60 years old, and even If we Look only at the TV Show, yeah, still dosnt make Sense, Like, AT ALL, because Canon doesnt really Matter in dw. So at that rate, why Not concider anything you Like Canon? The Linea between the TV Show and the Audios and Comic are blurry already, what, with beep the meep appearing now, and the big Finish eight doctor companions being practically 'canonised' by moffat in the night of the doctor. So why Limit yourself to the TV series? What gives 🤷
It is in fact canon! In fact it takes place immediately following the comic story, Liberation of the Daleks which RTD confirmed is the canonical first adventure for the 14th Doctor and covers the first 60 minutes of this Doctor's life, which is why he says in this "60 minutes ago I was this really brilliant woman" It lines up!
:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
Well that's a lie as that woman was anything but brilliant
@@MichaelM28alright hater
This is definetly not cannon based om the backlash it's righftully getting.
Also agree that Sh*ttaker was anything bit brilliant. RTD has sadly been Chibnalled and i now firmly believe the show needs cancelling.
Timeless Children was bad enough alone.
Oh shut it hater, also what backlash? So far its been getting happy feedback from fans.
When you get to 4th doctor story Genesis of the Daleks this will make more sense. To answer your question Davros was a humanoid at one point but an accident leaves him disabled and badly burnt this is a sort of prequel to that
Genesis of the Daleks is one of Tom Baker and the shows finest . It's a little take that fits .
Debatable. Davros' accident and grtting his iconic look is such a short time and able before events of genesis doesn't work. It's TOO CLOSE in the timeline. The accident needs to happen earlier in dalek development or even before that.
As The Doctor says "The timelines of the canon are rupturing", which to me, might explain why Davros going forward will be a perfectly healthy looking and fully mobile character as RTD says Davros being confined to a wheelchair is too un-PC nowadays.
That's ridiculous...
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Frankly, it's a daft mindset to have. Not sure if this bodes at all well. We don't quite know what goes on in the mind of the TARDIS itself and, for all we know, all this is a TARDIS generated dreamscape. It's silly enough to have been. "Oh look! I've time crashed Davros' tech lab at the moment of the Dalek's creation. We can have some fun here. Oh, I'm lucid dreaming! Can I do that? Of course I can! I'm lucid everywhere!"
And if you think that's wild, just wait until they release the Genesis of the Daleks: Special Edition, where all instances of Michael Wisher have been edited out and replaced with Julian Bleach.
I jest, but it honestly feels like something with a non-zero chance of happening within our lifetimes.
Terrible! Davros never being in a wheelchair again. Changing a character because of “it being 2023” is just typical woke nonsense. Won’t be seeing Davros again. Well done RTD ffs!
RTD2 is turning into Woke Who! Even worse than chibbers. A woke world :(
Mark my words, it’s just going to be downhill from here.
@@ZDProds-c8p It removes an important part of his character motivation. It's just remarkably stupid pandering.
Anything that's addressed in the TV show is canon but then again since when was there ever any real canon in Dr. Who 😊.
lmao. there's been plenty of much worse things in canon
"Time can be rewritten" 🙃
RTD is in such a powerful position now, more powerful than when he was show runner back in 2005. Literally the BBC have handed Doctor Who over to him. In fact RTD is the one who has brought back the Christmas specials. He got the BBC to move it back to Saturday nights. So, if he says anything is canon, then his word is gospel from now until he leaves.
RTD is clearly taking the pee out of all those canon obsessed screamers that had mental breakdowns throughout the Chibnall era in particular but have always been out there. Well done RTD!
It's definitely canon. It doesn't contradict the already established canon, unlike, say, The Timeless Child....which is NOT canon. I really enjoyed this. A bit silly, but then consider The Curse of Fatal Death.
the timeless child will haunt us for all of eternity
The Timeless Child IS canon, you don't have to like it but it is.
@@friendlyotaku9525nah i reject tgat BS.
@@friendlyotaku9525 I know what you're saying, in that The Timeless Child has been presented on screen, and thus is "canon", however if The Timeless Child is going to be considered canon, we then need to accept that The Doctor is "half-human on his mother's side" as that was also presented on screen. At least THAT doesn't contradict established continuity, whereas the Timeless Child most certainly does (The Doctor had previously spoke of living with his family, of his parents, and of course on a number of occasions referred to the number of his incarnations, firmly establishing that the Hartnell Doctor was the FIRST). If RTD refuses to properly explain the Timeless Child away, I for one shall believe it was a deception of some sort on the part of The Master, or that the Jo Martin Doctor is an alternate universe Doctor (like Peter Cushing?).
@@Dalekzilla you know all that stuff still happened right? The Timeless Children even outright states it so none of that is contradicted.
I hope it's Davros before a terrible accident transforms him...
It isn't. They ditched the "chair" because they didn't want to vilify the differently abled. I'm out.
Good video bro and looking forward to the 60th I’m 21 and never been more excited for David’s return
To use your enjoyable 3rd decade of the 21st century vernacular, it is indeed 'canon man'. Well done with being one of the first reactors to upload your reaction.
I think this is cannon but I absolutely love this.
I did enjoy this up until the point of the "unleashed" interview with Russell's stupid comment about Davros and saying he's not going to have him disabled anymore because apparently its offensive to people on wheelchairs which is just ridiculous.
It ain't canon if RTD is having a bad take on disabled people been offensive
This charity skit, by definition, is no more canonical than Dimensions In Time or The Curse of Fatal Death. As far as I'm concerned, unless something happens in the TV show proper, it's not canonical.
RTD has said it’s canon
@@edwardguest1404 My criterion for canonicity remains that something should actually appear in the proper TV series, not a light-hearted sketch in a charity show, so I don't care what RTD might have said. It would be ridiculous if the Doctor "invented" the Daleks' plunger arm and gave them their name, never mind their war-cry of "Exterminate". If Russell was serious about these things being canonical, then frankly he's done far more damage to the canon in one 10 minute skit than Chris Chibnall did in his entire era.
@@edwardguest1404RTD also said this wasn't going to be a comedy skit
@@edwardguest1404 RTD lost his creative mind a long time ago. Nothing he says matters anymore
RTD said its canon
Doctor Who doesn't have a canon: it has separate conflicting and variously irreconcilable continuities. A story may be "canon" in one timeline but not in another. The Night of the Doctor is "canon" in the timeline where Eight regenerated into the War Doctor (and One was the original incarnation); but it's not "canon" in the timeline where Eight regenerated into Nine, as depicted in Doctor Who and the Time War, which is equally valid. Destination: Skaro is "canon" to the timeline where the Fourteenth Doctor exists, but not in any timeline where the Doctor was limited to thirteen lives from birth. As far as I'm concerned, Series 11 and beyond is a wholly separate continuity from Series 1-4 (where Nine regenerated from Eight), and Series 5-10 (where Nine regenerated from the War Doctor).
Dont new who fans watch old doctor who. Trywatching 4th doctor adventure of genesis of the dalek
Bro doctor who REALLY doesnt have a canon. Its a 60 year old tale of contradicting stories... just dont worry about it
tbf i guess at this point i should just choose what i believe to be canon lol
Just go with what's established in the TV show that's the best option.
@@joshuajoshua2732 Not really IMO, because as ive Said, its 60 years old, and even If we Look only at the TV Show, yeah, still dosnt make Sense, Like, AT ALL, because Canon doesnt really Matter in dw. So at that rate, why Not concider anything you Like Canon? The Linea between the TV Show and the Audios and Comic are blurry already, what, with beep the meep appearing now, and the big Finish eight doctor companions being practically 'canonised' by moffat in the night of the doctor.
So why Limit yourself to the TV series?
What gives 🤷
It's not canon
Russell says otherwise.