This series is a godsend for me, I've always wanted to try making something similar. Thank you so much for this, excited to see more. At 3:32, see those "grooves" in the grass? That could possibly be a remnant of the 2 tracks that were right there all those years ago.
Thanks giffin rails. Appreciate it. I know right.. I have been intrigued with Sydney trams since a kid and wondered why not more RUclips on it. So just thought. i should make some myself. Good call on the grooves in the grass. When I am next up there will take a "CSI Narrabeen" look more closely. You may be right - would be cool if it was!
Seeing this and other videos on the system has prompted me to plan a trip down there to see what it's like today. Decades since I was in that part of Sydney.
In making these before and after videos.. the main thing I have noticed is that there are lot more trees / greenery now then back in the pre 1960s days.. everything has 'grown' since then.
Thanks. I live on the Nthn Beaches and keep thinking while making the videos that the B-Line would have never been needed as we would have have already had a high capacity light rail (like to Randwick / Kingsford) running.
I lived in the North Manly area in the 50s and 60s. I vaguely remember that there was a goods tram depot in Brookvale behind the then Brookvale Show Ground which is now the home of the Mighty Sea Eagles. The land where the goods depot I believe is now the site of St Agustine's College. As a kid at Gussies in the late 50s and 60s I remember a large patch of rust in the school ground and some kids even found the remains of a Lea Enfield rifle. Was there really a goods depot there? On a slightly different Tram matter, my dad and his younger brother were living with their formidable aunty while his dad was working on the railway somewhere in the western parts of New South Wales. They liked to run up the rear of a tram in Watson's Bay and hitch a ride on the rear buffer. But one day they turned up at home to find their aunty very concerned. "A Little Bird" had told here that they had been taking free rides on the tram into Sydney again. They were flabergasted. How could she know? It turned out that a newspaper photographer had "snapped" them on the buffer on their free ride and there they were on the front page of the paper!. Mike in Oz
Thanks ML.... I am new to RUclips so only just finding comments (they only come up per video not for the channel).... anyway you don't need to hear about my problems :) ... So good to hear your experience.. yes looking at maps there was a goods line running into Saints... i think close to where the main hall is. Tramlines in those days also carried freight.
Thanks for the excellent video. I grew up in Harbord where there were plenty of oldies who waxed lyrical about catching the tram into Manly Wharf. There was plenty of talk about building a light rail/tram line from Palm Beach all the way into Sydney via the Harbour Bridge in the eighties. Never really got beyond the blueprint stage! 🚃
In my research for this video I discovered that there were plans to extend the tramline to Bayview and to Newport (near Newport Arms) but that didn't eventuate. Also I read the B-Line bus (which has been a massive success.. I live on the Northern Beaches so can agree with that) was meant to extend to Newport but as it received strong opposition from locals it only went as far as Mona Vale.
My 1934 Gregorys Street Directory shows a branch line to Harbord and Freshwater beach diverting from Pittwater Road Queenscliff at what is now Oliver Street.
A very interesting and well presented series - you are to be congratulated. One general comment, one specific comment. General - obviously, you have made each documentary in stages - this is evident by the different voice-over volumes, at times quite a variance and almost annoying. The other comment - specific to Narrabeen - was that no mention was made of the catenary style overhead on the Narrabeen extension, unlike the rest of the network with a single contact wire. Possibly because of the distance to the nearest substation. You should do some additional research into this aspect - and particularly as to whether a higher voltage was used on this section, requiring the use only modified coupled O-class trams taking 600 volts DC each. Also, a throw-back comment - the electrified Manly network used only one type of tram - the O-class, representatives of which are operated at the Sydney Tramway Museum at Loftus.
Thanks for the tip. Appreciate it. yes still getting the hang of the audio on these videos. And thanks on the tip on the overhead. I didn't know that. Will note it down if I do a follow up on the line.
Gotta ask why the ever got rid of it.... I guess for the almighty car, but ironic given the $b's they've spent on the toy system which only goes to Randwick; Pyrmont; etc.
Now that would have been a tourist attraction if it was built and was still around. I also believe there were plans to go to Newport - near where the Newport Arms is today.
This series is a godsend for me, I've always wanted to try making something similar. Thank you so much for this, excited to see more.
At 3:32, see those "grooves" in the grass? That could possibly be a remnant of the 2 tracks that were right there all those years ago.
Thanks giffin rails. Appreciate it. I know right.. I have been intrigued with Sydney trams since a kid and wondered why not more RUclips on it. So just thought. i should make some myself. Good call on the grooves in the grass. When I am next up there will take a "CSI Narrabeen" look more closely. You may be right - would be cool if it was!
Seeing this and other videos on the system has prompted me to plan a trip down there to see what it's like today. Decades since I was in that part of Sydney.
In making these before and after videos.. the main thing I have noticed is that there are lot more trees / greenery now then back in the pre 1960s days.. everything has 'grown' since then.
The Sydney system should never been closed down loved riding on it in my early teens cheers bob.👍👍👍🤠
Thanks. I live on the Nthn Beaches and keep thinking while making the videos that the B-Line would have never been needed as we would have have already had a high capacity light rail (like to Randwick / Kingsford) running.
I lived in the North Manly area in the 50s and 60s. I vaguely remember that there was a goods tram depot in Brookvale behind the then Brookvale Show Ground which is now the home of the Mighty Sea Eagles. The land where the goods depot I believe is now the site of St Agustine's College. As a kid at Gussies in the late 50s and 60s I remember a large patch of rust in the school ground and some kids even found the remains of a Lea Enfield rifle. Was there really a goods depot there?
On a slightly different Tram matter, my dad and his younger brother were living with their formidable aunty while his dad was working on the railway somewhere in the western parts of New South Wales. They liked to run up the rear of a tram in Watson's Bay and hitch a ride on the rear buffer. But one day they turned up at home to find their aunty very concerned. "A Little Bird" had told here that they had been taking free rides on the tram into Sydney again. They were flabergasted. How could she know? It turned out that a newspaper photographer had "snapped" them on the buffer on their free ride and there they were on the front page of the paper!. Mike in Oz
Thanks ML.... I am new to RUclips so only just finding comments (they only come up per video not for the channel).... anyway you don't need to hear about my problems :) ... So good to hear your experience.. yes looking at maps there was a goods line running into Saints... i think close to where the main hall is. Tramlines in those days also carried freight.
I loved this! My dad grew up in the Northern Suburbs when the trams were still in action. I so wish I could have seen that! Thanks mate :)
Congratulations on your video!
Thanks for the excellent video. I grew up in Harbord where there were plenty of oldies who waxed lyrical about catching the tram into Manly Wharf. There was plenty of talk about building a light rail/tram line from Palm Beach all the way into Sydney via the Harbour Bridge in the eighties. Never really got beyond the blueprint stage! 🚃
In my research for this video I discovered that there were plans to extend the tramline to Bayview and to Newport (near Newport Arms) but that didn't eventuate. Also I read the B-Line bus (which has been a massive success.. I live on the Northern Beaches so can agree with that) was meant to extend to Newport but as it received strong opposition from locals it only went as far as Mona Vale.
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My 1934 Gregorys Street Directory shows a branch line to Harbord and Freshwater beach diverting from Pittwater Road Queenscliff at what is now Oliver Street.
A very interesting and well presented series - you are to be congratulated. One general comment, one specific comment. General - obviously, you have made each documentary in stages - this is evident by the different voice-over volumes, at times quite a variance and almost annoying. The other comment - specific to Narrabeen - was that no mention was made of the catenary style overhead on the Narrabeen extension, unlike the rest of the network with a single contact wire. Possibly because of the distance to the nearest substation. You should do some additional research into this aspect - and particularly as to whether a higher voltage was used on this section, requiring the use only modified coupled O-class trams taking 600 volts DC each. Also, a throw-back comment - the electrified Manly network used only one type of tram - the O-class, representatives of which are operated at the Sydney Tramway Museum at Loftus.
Thanks for the tip. Appreciate it. yes still getting the hang of the audio on these videos. And thanks on the tip on the overhead. I didn't know that. Will note it down if I do a follow up on the line.
Gotta ask why the ever got rid of it.... I guess for the almighty car, but ironic given the $b's they've spent on the toy system which only goes to Randwick; Pyrmont; etc.
Originally there was a plan to extend this line all the way to church point but it never materialised
Now that would have been a tourist attraction if it was built and was still around. I also believe there were plans to go to Newport - near where the Newport Arms is today.
Thanks for making this it is an interesting part of Sydney's history