vyse is not broken has the worst ult in the game you can use apistol to avoid his ult or just wait till you can you use your gun again and his bear trap are not as good for blocking chock points
Clove is S tier and there is no argument to be made otherwise, especially since you put Omen in S. Having 2 smokes that recharge is arguably the best and most important utility in the game which automatically puts her in S. Not to mention you can still help your team by smoking when your dead.
@@wavy5956Indeed after the Viper's Nerf he became a much better controller And even though their smokes are not global, clove have almost 4 and can help their team after death, that is very strong.
@@Mr.NobodyYT6 It’s not the agent thats bad honestly. It’s the 60% players who never smokes, never drop a gun with 6K in the bank, Reyna spammer yet never take space and steal all ult orb from the map.
Yeah saying shes overrated is a bit absurd. Maybe in pro play, but anything lower than Ascendent shes really good. Quick smokes with pick me up, makes her incredibly viable in quick firefights. At lower ranks there is less communication and coordination. A tier for sure.
Seriously? Sage in B, Sky and Fade in S? Sage might be the worst agent in the game, Fade has never been on top, and after Skys flashes were nerfed she felt a lot in meta
Just think about it. Chamber is only good with crazy aim since he only has one trap and is more of a duelist then sentinel. Sage wall can be insta destroyed and other agents can do the rest of her kit but way better
As a chamber main, he is in a weird spot, not a sentinel not a duelist. Imo either give him back the global range or two trips. Still his TP is still one of the best defensive op ability. Tho if u have good teammate u can just run it down with the ULT since it has a higher firerate than normal ops
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller. Since her util is more duelist like. Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time. + points for clove being able to use it after death. Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
bruh clove is less about duelist and should play more with team than solo omen is the one who better at taking space because he can blind and tp in if that's meaning of duelist, see jett raze yoru can dive, phoenix reyna yoru can flash, omen could did them too but as secondary entry omem is better at lurking and solo than clove what clove really do well is playing with team because clove smoke range is smaller but good thing is clove can drop smoke quicker, can drop smokes at the same time omen can have better one way and bigger range but omen have to perfectly place one by one it''s harder to smoke while moving than clove smoke which can always use when running without missing clove should stick to team or atleast not lurk to far when execute so she can use smoke after death well smoke duration different is maginal, it's 13.5s vs 15s, it's enough to take site and shorter duration isn't always bad
Clove is genuinely not that good of a controller compared to Omen!!! Omen can play both solo and with the team. Omen's smokes are longer, and insane refresh time. Omen util outclasses Clove's. Clove ult is hella good, and Omen's insanely good if you know how to use it as well. Omen > Clove objectively.
Skye and gekko are top agents wdym brother. A good yoru is one of the most dangerous players to play against. Deadlock takes alot of skill to play that’s why
Viper in ranked is only viable on icebox and bind. She has been nerfed too many times to stay in meta. And with current cypher meta we dont have to play double controller with viper hybrid sentinel. Skye was just ignored bc of nerfs but people realised she is still great agent and future map pool will just prove it
@@Loot360 thats restarted logic tho? if you dont know how to play an agent ofc they are going to be ass? The rankings are taking into account that the player is utilizing their kit well. And deadlock isnt as hard as other agents like astra or yoru.
@@Pissandra_0.0 bro what viper is good on icebox bind and lotus and decent on haven abyss sunset and brim is only good on bind astra abyss ion get ur point
clove is s tier in rank for sure she might have lower ceiling than omen but really easy to play effectively smoke after death have biggest impact quick smoke is pretty good on many one way spot even omen have better one way omen have to aim for smoke and smoke one by one while clove can drop 2 smokes at the same time can smoke after death mean clove and take fight aggressively, can follow up team after used smoke and still have smoke for post plant a lot of time there are huge impact by can just smoke after death many default plant spot can use one way and make enemy harder to defuse
my considerations: Wall is baitable and the whole team can get through it together Thorns can be destroyed About the flash and the ult, yea.. i agree that both are overpowered
how is chamber the same as sage, with chamber u have good economy, but sage got a wall that can be broken, slow orbs u can walk through and a heal that nobody uses
Phoenix also has a high win rate. Sage also has a high win rate. Win rate is only one factor in rankings. We look at the overall power of their kit, their pro pick rate, and the general opinion from top players to determine an agents ranking.
"It is harder for Gekko to gather information since all of his utility is VERY EASILY destructible. Because of this it is harder for Gekko to consistently take space in a lot of the areas of the map." Okay so according to you, Gekko is not good at the two things an initiator is supposed to do in a solo initiator situation, but then you proceed to place Gekko in A tier, above Breach and Kay/O who can play perfectly fine as solo initiators for both intel and space. They can use their util to solo frag. You're a joke mate, never cook again!
Bro phoenix wrost duelists ? Are u serious bro i mean he is not very very good but its not the wrost is u know how to play phoenix it becomes op like really
@@OutpostX she still pretty good though if you know what you’re doing, at least from the games I’ve had with teammates that play her, but you probably know better than me so I won’t argue lmao
Holy fuck, no way you just put Clove in B tier. She is the best Controller in ranked, along with rowen. Also, Iso is arguably the best dualist. He for sure deserves S tier. Phoenix to is also super strong, u just need to know how to use him. I think Phoenix should be minimum A tier if not S.
In low ranks (im low ranked) iso and phoenix are better because they can play independently and you don't have to rely off your often bad teammates. In high ranks when teammates play off the duelists, having a jett, neon or raze go flying onto site it takes pressure off your team to dump util into taking a site
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller. Since her util is more duelist like. Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time. + points for clove being able to use it after death. Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
iso in last tier with just having a barbie mirror and a 1 second useless sheild and a worse copy of omen blind undercut the ultimate is the only usable
A decent chamber and sage who is high rank prob outclasses a deadlock because of the sheer skill it takes to rank up with them. Deadlock is good but she relies heavily on gamesense and kj is a better option for those players. She is scary at first but good players quickly figure her out. At least chamber and sage can capitalise off good aim and grim walls and heals. Deadlock is tied to her utility l.
Not really. Used to otp her but after all these nerfs she is just too difficult to do well not including icebox and bind. In pro scene she is still great but for solo queue RIP
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vyse is not broken has the worst ult in the game you can use apistol to avoid his ult or just wait till you can you use your gun again and his bear trap are not as good for blocking chock points
Pls make a video about using cypher on offense
Here's the tier list:
S: Neon, Raze, Cypher, Sova and Omen
A: Jett, Yoru, Vyse, Killjoy, Fade, Skye and Gekko
B: Reyna, Phoenix, Iso, Chamber, Sage, Breach, Kay0, Clove, Astra and Brimstone
C: Deadlock, Viper and Harbor
thank you bro
Something tells me chamber will move up with his buff
And astra
@@AlwaysLoadin astra will br meta again
Clove is S tier and there is no argument to be made otherwise, especially since you put Omen in S. Having 2 smokes that recharge is arguably the best and most important utility in the game which automatically puts her in S. Not to mention you can still help your team by smoking when your dead.
absolutely overcooked and burnt the controller tier list
On god put viper and harbor in the same tier
they did clove and viper wrong, harbor is underrated
@@wavy5956Indeed after the Viper's Nerf he became a much better controller
And even though their smokes are not global, clove have almost 4 and can help their team after death, that is very strong.
Clove at B is a crime . She has the highest win rate in the controllers. She atleast deserves A
@@Mr.NobodyYT6 It’s not the agent thats bad honestly. It’s the 60% players who never smokes, never drop a gun with 6K in the bank, Reyna spammer yet never take space and steal all ult orb from the map.
THEY * so easy to say !
Yeah saying shes overrated is a bit absurd. Maybe in pro play, but anything lower than Ascendent shes really good. Quick smokes with pick me up, makes her incredibly viable in quick firefights. At lower ranks there is less communication and coordination. A tier for sure.
@@sutayabe still they win that's what matters
@@espunkedwait cloves not a she?
Bro didn’t cook 😭
Seriously? Sage in B, Sky and Fade in S? Sage might be the worst agent in the game, Fade has never been on top, and after Skys flashes were nerfed she felt a lot in meta
Wtf did i just read haha
Never read so much crap in my life, what youbon about 😂
Never let bro cook again
salty cypher spammer spotted
@@sutayabe cypher 《3
Why didn't you mention about Chamber & Sage? "Every" agent is worth mentioning why they are placed in the tier list
Just think about it. Chamber is only good with crazy aim since he only has one trap and is more of a duelist then sentinel. Sage wall can be insta destroyed and other agents can do the rest of her kit but way better
As a chamber main, he is in a weird spot, not a sentinel not a duelist. Imo either give him back the global range or two trips. Still his TP is still one of the best defensive op ability.
Tho if u have good teammate u can just run it down with the ULT since it has a higher firerate than normal ops
@@austinorsomeonealt let's celebrate now buddies 🍻
@@FlexedPanda Hell yeah,they fkin buffed the TP.
@@austinorsomeonealt Yeah I just want global trip range. It's just so limiting
Im happy to see my Deadlock is underrated, so she will not recieve a nerf, but buff.
But if she gets a buff then people will realise she is overpowered and then will end up getting nerfed :_(
The logic behind this makes no sense @@chasingdaydreams2788
I agree but the hate that everyone gives her right now is insane she had the top 10 winrate of a lot of ranks last act
@@Baguettez-i6t top 10 isn't very good out of 25 💀
@@chasingdaydreams2788 That logic makes no sense
Clove in b tier is wild, is the agent with best winrate across every rank lmao
putting Deadlock BELOW sage and chamber???? 🤔🤣
I feel iso is A tier because of the crazy advantages iso gets in fights, and Skye is S tier because of the amount of info you can get with her.
CLOVE IS LEGIT A OR S CZ SHE CAN ALSO DUEL IF NEEDED AND SHE DOES CONTROLLER ROLE PRETTY GOODDDDD
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller.
Since her util is more duelist like.
Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time.
+ points for clove being able to use it after death.
Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
bruh clove is less about duelist and should play more with team than solo
omen is the one who better at taking space because he can blind and tp in
if that's meaning of duelist,
see jett raze yoru can dive, phoenix reyna yoru can flash, omen could did them too but as secondary entry
omem is better at lurking and solo than clove
what clove really do well is playing with team
because clove smoke range is smaller
but good thing is clove can drop smoke quicker, can drop smokes at the same time
omen can have better one way and bigger range but omen have to perfectly place one by one
it''s harder to smoke while moving than clove smoke which can always use when running without missing
clove should stick to team or atleast not lurk to far when execute
so she can use smoke after death well
smoke duration different is maginal, it's 13.5s vs 15s, it's enough to take site and shorter duration isn't always bad
I remember the days when Yoru would be nothing but F tier... I'm so proud of how far my boy has come.
Clove is genuinely not that good of a controller compared to Omen!!!
Omen can play both solo and with the team.
Omen's smokes are longer, and insane refresh time.
Omen util outclasses Clove's.
Clove ult is hella good, and Omen's insanely good if you know how to use it as well.
Omen > Clove objectively.
Both are S tier still imo
Saying objectively for smth that isn’t objective doesn’t make your opinion more valid btw
Clove in B tier is crazy
ok so why is viper C, Skye A (she the worst initiator aside from maybe gekko, sage B over deadlock, Iso B and Yoru A
Skye and gekko are top agents wdym brother. A good yoru is one of the most dangerous players to play against. Deadlock takes alot of skill to play that’s why
Viper in ranked is only viable on icebox and bind. She has been nerfed too many times to stay in meta. And with current cypher meta we dont have to play double controller with viper hybrid sentinel. Skye was just ignored bc of nerfs but people realised she is still great agent and future map pool will just prove it
@@Loot360 thats restarted logic tho? if you dont know how to play an agent ofc they are going to be ass? The rankings are taking into account that the player is utilizing their kit well. And deadlock isnt as hard as other agents like astra or yoru.
@@Pissandra_0.0 bro what viper is good on icebox bind and lotus and decent on haven abyss sunset and brim is only good on bind astra abyss ion get ur point
@@Loot360 not for initiators breach n kayo r better atleast than skue
Did anyone see Chamber? I think they forgot our French sentinel
hes in b but they didn’t talk about him
Don't rank agents again. Deadlock is the third best sentinel before Vyse was released. You guys are frauds
clove is s tier in rank for sure
she might have lower ceiling than omen but really easy to play effectively
smoke after death have biggest impact
quick smoke is pretty good on many one way spot even omen have better one way
omen have to aim for smoke and smoke one by one while clove can drop 2 smokes at the same time
can smoke after death mean clove and take fight aggressively, can follow up team after used smoke and still have smoke for post plant
a lot of time there are huge impact by can just smoke after death
many default plant spot can use one way and make enemy harder to defuse
You are exagerating a bit when talking about vyse, yea.. she is good, but it's not that great as people say
my considerations:
Wall is baitable and the whole team can get through it together
Thorns can be destroyed
About the flash and the ult, yea.. i agree that both are overpowered
@@victorhugomichelsheringer7388Flash cd is getting nerfed for sure.
@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 i hope so
this patch is not optimised ..my screen is getting stucked and voice comms not even working
Would you say kayo or skye is a better duelist initiator hybrid
This agent looks sick, and this Vyse is very cool :)
Where is chamber ?
another reason to nerf chamber
Removed from the game
Irrelevant
why is chamber B he is the sentinel you pick when your a duelist main everyones screaming at you to play meta sentinel and theirs already 4 duelists💀
When does split and lotus come back? I initially thought it was gonna be the current act
Phoenix needs a buff to his Fire Wall.
Im a gekko main and im currently acentend with only gekko and his flash provids great info if you throw it right
gekko is best flash initiator rn idk what bros on
how is chamber the same as sage, with chamber u have good economy, but sage got a wall that can be broken, slow orbs u can walk through and a heal that nobody uses
When is the next balance changes scheduled ?
Sorry I have to disagree with controller. Clove is very powerful especially with her over heal ability.
how is clove overrated when they literally have the highest win rate in ranked?
Phoenix also has a high win rate. Sage also has a high win rate. Win rate is only one factor in rankings. We look at the overall power of their kit, their pro pick rate, and the general opinion from top players to determine an agents ranking.
tf is so important about winrate LOL
You are the type of player who judge others based on their hs rate 😭😭🙏🙏🙏
people will just go "O O A A HARBOR HAS 100% WINRATE HE'S AUTOMATICALLY OP!!!"
plus ranked and pro play is very different from one to another
It’s literally comment bait for people like you 😂
When I use clove im good and omen I am always bad maybe for 1 time good
Now make 9.05 tierlist mentioning Chamber buddy..
Ur slow
never let this man cook again
didn't even talk about chamber or sage
"It is harder for Gekko to gather information since all of his utility is VERY EASILY destructible. Because of this it is harder for Gekko to consistently take space in a lot of the areas of the map."
Okay so according to you, Gekko is not good at the two things an initiator is supposed to do in a solo initiator situation, but then you proceed to place Gekko in A tier, above Breach and Kay/O who can play perfectly fine as solo initiators for both intel and space. They can use their util to solo frag. You're a joke mate, never cook again!
clove is 100% getting a nerf in our near future.
Bro phoenix wrost duelists ? Are u serious bro i mean he is not very very good but its not the wrost is u know how to play phoenix it becomes op like really
Here's a better tier list:
S: Neon, Cypher, Sova and Omen
A: Jett, Vyse, Skye and Gekko ,Raze, Iso, Chamber
B: Reyna, Breach, Kay0, Clove, Astra, Fade, Killjoy, Harbor, Yoru
C: Deadlock, Viper, Sage, Phoenix and Brimstone
I would say Clove goes in A and Viper goes in B, but I play unranked normally, so I could be wrong about try hard meta lol
@@iamthedorkygamer viper got nerfed si hard
@@OutpostX she still pretty good though if you know what you’re doing, at least from the games I’ve had with teammates that play her, but you probably know better than me so I won’t argue lmao
@@iamthedorkygamer u cant do lineups anymore (it's harder to kill)
@@OutpostX as someone who hasn’t even unlocked Viper yet idk what that means but i imagine that’s probably a fairly big deal lol
vyse is good, she is most certainly not broken. You're not winning a game as vyse with a bad team no matter how good you are
btw thinking omen is better than clove is straight idiotic lmao. Overpowered stim-insta heal, self res, infinite smokes. You gotta be high
Hire someone else to write the script and make the tier lists. It’s all bad
U can literally jiggle peak the wall 🗿
Holy fuck, no way you just put Clove in B tier. She is the best Controller in ranked, along with rowen. Also, Iso is arguably the best dualist. He for sure deserves S tier. Phoenix to is also super strong, u just need to know how to use him. I think Phoenix should be minimum A tier if not S.
In low ranks (im low ranked) iso and phoenix are better because they can play independently and you don't have to rely off your often bad teammates. In high ranks when teammates play off the duelists, having a jett, neon or raze go flying onto site it takes pressure off your team to dump util into taking a site
Clove isn't that great of a controller!
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller.
Since her util is more duelist like.
Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time.
+ points for clove being able to use it after death.
Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
so... basically play all of the OG agents. XD
Clove at B? Bro 😭
Jett is always going to super mythic s tier
like whoever is the face of the game is always S tier. like Jett (Valorant) and Tracer (OW/OW2) LMFAO
Damn, finally yoru aint in d or c tier
iso in last tier with just having a barbie mirror and a 1 second useless sheild and a worse copy of omen blind undercut the ultimate is the only usable
bro tbh if vyse is A tier then Chamber should MINIMUM A tier he's still so broken😐
Iso is easy S tier. A shield to negate damage taken shouldnt even be in the game period
W opinion . Peoples just dont know how yo play it . Maybe on pro play it can be bad but good
sage and chamber cannot be higher than deadlock
Sage is better than deadlock easily
Deadlock is better than them both for sure
Sage and chamber don’t even have a full sentinel kit 😭
A decent chamber and sage who is high rank prob outclasses a deadlock because of the sheer skill it takes to rank up with them. Deadlock is good but she relies heavily on gamesense and kj is a better option for those players. She is scary at first but good players quickly figure her out. At least chamber and sage can capitalise off good aim and grim walls and heals. Deadlock is tied to her utility l.
@@mijkphlt then why no one succeed sage and chamber in the highest level of play
No one agrees with anyone in comments lmao
this video is balls
vyses thorns are weak and her wall is easy to bait out. same with the flashes she is only B tier at most
killjoy s tier tbh
Rayna in b?!
Do these tips and tricks translate into console
sova vice omen reyna for me
CLOVE in B? 😂😂
Viper is always S
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Viper in c tier is a crime
Not really. Used to otp her but after all these nerfs she is just too difficult to do well not including icebox and bind. In pro scene she is still great but for solo queue RIP
In fact vyse not good at all. Ein rate so low
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Nah thats bullshit
gekko s
In your games, probably
@@priahhh why
This tierlist is so bad + clove is not a woman
“Ashkully clove is not a woman” 🤓👆
Hi, friendly reminder that clove pronouns are they/them :)
If you really care about pronouns, you should play Dustborn 😂
friendly reminder that it's a video game character, not a real person so maybe chill out a bit with the PC party
Deadlock is my favorite, when i saw she was at C then i started thinking if she deserves being my main 🫡
this patch is not optimised ..my screen is getting stucked and voice comms not even working