Yoru ult being anything less than S tier makes no sense. It's completely free info, you can grab a gun/spike and rotate, you can flash for your team from anywhere, you can set up devastating pinches, and you can do all of that with a 0% fail rate. The only time it requires any skill is if you try a "shorty stomp." Otherwise, it's free value, and I don't even play much Yoru.
I see where the creator of the vid was coming from, I don’t think he saw where you’re coming from. At first thought, I was like “Yoru B tier isn’t that bad. It’s basically just a human drone.” But I wasn’t thinking about the flexibility, and I agree with you, probably A tier minimum.
@@jacobhoang1497 well phoenix can also kill, yoru can't so that's fair, besides. Phoenix ult forces the defenders out of site most of the time and is like a free entry, but I dont think anyone would run away from a yoru ult.
@@floplez bro who run from Phoenix ult? You know you can shoot him right? Yoru can run in without any harm, gather information and get in a position to plank the enemies from almost anywhere.
harbors ult isnt meant for fighting, its meant for info gathering, and at that its really good, also it counters op's pretty well. and it DOES set up a fight where you have the advantage, because you know exactly where the enemy is but the enemy doesnt know where you are
@@tekstego9654 a little info: you can see where is harbor by look from where he's ulting. His ult is moving forward harbor, so you just see from where he's ult moving, and you got harbor location
@@mizanamar but usually its not only the harbor there if its used to fight. and if its used to gather info then the harbors position isnt really usefull
Saying that Yoru ult is B tier makes me think that this guy never played this game in a competitive setting, It's the most versatile ult in the game, it can have clutch potential, it can give your whole team free info, it can create insane flanks, it allows you to flash for your team from anywhere, it's just insanely good
Yoru's ult CAN be used for other stuff than fighting, like you can scout for the team, body block enemies, bait them, and etc. Like it really compliments your teammates and its a pretty useful ult, like dont ever cook again brother 💀🔥
But it also can send flashbangs, and use clones in front of enemies so you flash them while they try taking a fight. this ultimate and harbor's are very good.@@realElectroZap
Fade Gekko Yoru all S tier or top of A tier. Fade ult is a free retake and a free site take, deafens enemies and decays them so can combo with damage dealing abilities and things like omen and yoru tp. Also free info and combos amazingly with fade’s kit. Gekko’s ult is a constantly moving info gatherer that can combo well with other util, and the fact that it can take a whole site and be used the same round for post plant makes it S tier. And yoru is guaranteed value every time
as a deadlock main i can tell you her ult can be seroiusly impactfull, espacily in defender side, you can for example ult the planter and take the spike to you and force the enemys to you. Another way is, most people want to shot the ulted one what gives you opertunity to peek and shoot back what throws of most peoples croshair placement not to forgot it delivers you the enemy, so you can eco one round if you have ult
Yoru Ult in my biased opinion (i’m a radiant yoru main) is one of, if not, the best ult in the game. It’s pure info meaning you can combo with other util or spam through smokes, counter viper ult, can be used on eco rounds, can be used to get past deadlock wall, trigger deadlock trip, tank skye ult, flash for your teammates, and in the hands of a good yoru usually results in a kill and a gun for your team. Also it’s only 7 points but if you consider the fact that once you come out of your ult most of the time the yoru will get the kill or die gaining you an extra ult point making it basically 6 ult points.
Please have static criteria if youre rating stuff. You would randomly say " depends on the player ", give stuff 3 tiers , and just put random caveats in depending on the agent ( synergies for instance ). Have a list of 4 or 5 things youre comparing to and use that. As for player hands, you need to have a set ranking, like diamond and up or something. Just not jump from top to bottom based on how you feel . ( then throwing an ult into 3 slots ) This felt like it was om the fly by someone just playing around in custom. Hell, some you didnt even have a spot, just asked the comments.
true, the only decent value it could MAYBE have is like kidnapping a raze in her ult or a chamber in his ult or any person opping (if u have ur shield on). another thing could be kidnapping the defuser. other than that really isn't much value other than a 1v1
@@realElectroZapDepends... He assumes that the person playing Iso is a proper Iso player... Meaning, if you're not a top tier aimer and you pick Iso you're trolling anyway... So in theory if you're the best aimer in the lobby you can delete one person... Also it's amazing for guaranteeing a win when you're 2v1 by kidnapping the last opponent and having your teammate wait for him in case you lose to shoot his face for free... It's not that bad of an ult but you need to be confident about your dueling skills... But iso is all about winning 1v1 very consistently to begin with
U can just a cypher into a sketchy black van and remove his utility for 10 seconds (or the rest of the round) and make space for your team. Also with the buff of being able to bring his shield into the ult i think its at least A in the right hands.
Saying that brims ult doesn’t synergize with his kit doesn’t make much sense to me. I can’t tell you how often I use it on offense with a Molly lineup to guard the spike after plant. If you don’t know what I mean, watch pretty much any Perry2n video and you should see it. It’s incredible!
How is omen c ? He can pick the spike for a complete plot twist He can pick guns with it He gets info He can fake it He can rotate For me omen's ult is at least an A for real as an omen main it is a complete game changer
Yeah I agree with the guy above me. Compared to the power level of other ults in the game it is definitely C tier. I play a lot of Omen, and it’s one of the reasons I enjoy other characters. It’s not as flexible of an ult as it seems, and it’s situational where I feel the best use of ults in general is frequent use.
For example: Gekko always has ult because he’s always planting and probably farming orb. On top of that he gets 2 in a round if he uses it right. Chamber’s ult can make your team’s economy so much more stable. Viper can completely win rounds with the pit because anyone pushing her dies fast.
Yoru ult at B hurts. It sets up pushes you can distract with the decoy allowing your team to push if needed you use it for recon and then move to a preset teleport and flank and so much more. that Ult in the right hands is incredible
Not Dead Yet is a least A. While its possible to completely tank it. The potential is has when used correctly literally wins rounds. Clove is literally a Controller-Duelist hybrid with her kit.
Yoru ult is arguably the strongest ult in pro play and in ranked good yoru players could also outplay and the ult itself is really versatile you can combo with other ults and counter viper pit
Fade ult not only provides info, but it cutts all the sound, even the voice chat Omen ult is not that bad at aggressive playing, also you can take the spike, and you can dissapear entirely for 3 seconds to confuse ur enemy I wanted to say something about Yoru, but everyone already did Also Omen ult becomes even better when played with fade ult
Honestly, I might be bias because I'm an Iso main but I would've put kill contract in A or S tier because you mentioned that the ult requires you to have good aim to win the ult, and its not a guarantee to win which is true. But, if you communicate with your teammates well, they can camp their spawn so IF you do lose, your team will still get the kill, which is great if you use it for a spike planter/defuser or for hard to kill players for a 100% kill rate. And, as you mentioned, you put game-changing and 100% success in S/A tier.
Yeah, I’ve seen it used incorrectly, but like if you use it correct at all you have it in clutch situations and your team can help you guarantee the kill. Raze ult isn’t guaranteed, famously. Neon ult isn’t guaranteed. Personally, I struggle with Jett knives. So compared to other duelists, yeah a guaranteed kill is strong.
yoru ult is very nice if you hate operaters =)), in the round that you sees the enemy with an op, sneak behind them, get the kill them tp back to safety
I just don't understand the ranking system. How can Sova's ult can be higher than Omen's and Yoru's ones? Omen can be teleported to any point of the map with this ult. It would he good just with a single function but he can do much more! He can take spike from anywhere, he can gather info, he can make enemies paranoid and, of course, he can make such good flank. Yoru also can take spike, make enemies paranoid and flank greatly, but his info gathering ability is on another level. Yeah, maybe he doesn't insta kill, but putting a little bit of thought can give you guaranteed kills. And Sova? Most of the time, Sova in my team doesn't even kill anyone with his ult. It's easily avoidanle if you are not stunned.
fade ult is easily a tier. its not only info its anti info for the enemy team, allowing lurkers from your team to run in guns blazing getting easy double or tripple kills from behind without the enemy realizing anything b4 they re dead. also it decays, meaning combined with the traces u can get easy wallbang kills without even going into a 50 50 cenario. Edit: u said astra is potentialy the best cause it cuts of sound and dmg. well that is for enemy and your team. fade ult cuts of sound only for the enemy... astra ult in bronze rank is usually something i love my enemys to use cause it allows me, their enemys to get many easy kills. i agree astra ult is top but the floor is z tier helping enemys. Also KJ ult can often be used to catch KJs team off guard cause they think ok no enemy here and then u just shoot a bunch of people that have knives out.
for me your ult is S tier. maybe because i play only yoru? idk but man his ult is sooo good u can gather info safely and return with your team after u ult, clone, de ult on a safe place to make them think u still there and they will focus on my location and let the bois entry rush.
if u do mess up the yoru ult, u can still keep like a backup tp or smt and get away. i tihnk yoru needs some more love man . and reyna's ult is also cheap, that she needs to be higher in the list.
Gekkos ult is a lot better than you said it is. Sure nothing crazy but if you know that there are multiple enemies close to eachother a 200 hp gekko ult with fast speed it gonna be a pain to kill, and the dețin for 6 seconds is really good. The best part is that its re-usable if you pick it back up so honestly it deserved to be higher than you rated it.
Thrash is literally a Skye dog that is faster, has a stronger debuff that lasts longer in a larger radius, and can be used twice. It is much better than what he said.
i think you keep saying high skill floor when high skill ceiling is more accurate, you keep talking about potential and that’s the ceiling. high skill floor requires immense effort to get any value. high skill ceiling is the immense potential of value based on how good the person is. i’m guessing it was just a slip in recording you didn’t catch.
I'm no Cypher user, but in a game where the tiniest bit of info helps win a round, I think his Ult should be at least low A tier or a very high B tier.
Yes definitely because of her high mobility and crazy Ult she definitely has I see people not even being that good getting Ace after Ace and stuff so she is very good especially after the recent buff
@@rusticwolf3079 Yeah that's one thing in particular I just did not understand. How is Skye's better than Fade and Cypher's while being an info ultimate. He said pure info ults are bad but Cypher is just better for pure info than Skye since he gives exact positions while Fade gives Prowler auto target, deafened, and decay allowing you to be aggressive. Is he assuming you get the nearsight on Skye? If that's the case why didn't he consider the decay on Fade? Makes no sense along with the other shit he said.
Fade's ult - Info gatherer and make prowler much more useful, decay, deafens enemy and it is only info. Skye- only shows where three opponents are and better than Fade's ult?? Is it just me or I am missing something?
In skye's ult you can gather info on enemy from anywhere on the map but that's not the case for fade, yes fade ult is good for site take and retake but if no one is there when ulted that ult is basically wasted with no info gathered
Clove's ultimate is kinda miss placed. Its more of an entry ultimate like run it down. Unlike pheonix you are not being cancelled instantly. If that happens then resurrect to enter with invulnerablity and allow dualist to do cover fire and enter site
First nice Video, you guys put some work on it. You get every single time value for free with Yoru ult, it's an invisible Sova Drone, that can Flashes and if you think you can't handle the situation you just TP out and take the free info. In addition to that, you can set up plays to get to surprising spots or play around teammate's utility like Fade and Sova ult ore even breach stun. But I think you didn't catch that because in the Video it locked like you didn't know what Fade ult does. I think we have to think twice about Yoru and Fade here. Have a good day guys
Soo Astra is good cus it blocks info and cuts sound and fades ult is worse cus it does damage forces enemies to back up tells u where they are and blocks sound onl6 on their side
This list hurts me knifes, showstopper, the reckoning, thrash, and fade ult. ALL need to be considered when you decide where and how to play a round, disrespecting them like this straight up loses you rounds😅. They may have some failure rate but not any more then CHAMBER ult or Sova ult, or viper ult which you put A anyway… huh???? I mean I like your A and S tier but B and C are inconsistent with the criteria you mentioned considering how you placed other ults.
As a Gekko, fade, and harbor enjoyer, I agree with you. I think played correctly, each ult has a great argument for being stronger than he ranked. Viper SHOULD be S, if you’re on attack and your entire team dies, all you need is spike and a pit to instantly win. Especially because he put KJ at the top, I would argue viper and KJ have very similar ults in terms of impact.
Bro, saying harbor ultimate is C tier is stupid. It is basically a free spot. Don't matter if you don't get the trades, you know WHERE THEY ARE. this by itself is a strong tool, and suits even better with your duelist. You can set up an unwinnable 1v1 for the person on site and get the site for free just with harbor util + ultimate. Saying it is C tier when even Proplayers know it's value is stupid. And also harbor ultimate has same thing as Paranoia had before, if you ult walking foward it will be faster, and walking backwards it will be slower, so you can basically lockdown a place or hunt them down with it. Very underrated ult.
Chamber and jett need to be way lower if you're focusing on use in the "average elo" or whatever you said. When you're in lower elo these ults get 0 value way too often.
reyna ult being on C makes no sense. Imagine a reyna with a spectre or odin, with brim stim, that fire rate is crazy, can definitely beats any gun other than snipers ;-; or 1 tap able gun. but it still great, should be in B or A
lol brim's ult in B , you need to re-evaluate it can kill 5 at once and talking about "ifs" it is in each and every ult phoenix can get killed too neon can get shot in the head right after ult...any way
Bro i main deadlock I'm telling u her ult should be at least A it's not good just for 1v1 as u said u can push and get a site for free cuz after the enemy hears MY TERRITORY MY RULES!! they gonna fall back and run for their lives (most of the time)
imagine being able to teleport anywhere on the fucking map and calling it bad. there r soooooo many scenarios in which you need to rotate instantly and you can also get the spike and plant it miles away from the opponents (here u have the upper edge as they r not hold a site anymore YOU are)
Bruhh i watched the video where this man rates all of gekko signature and basic abilities in b NOW HE PUTS thrash in b gonna be honest this one is pretty understandable BUT STILL
My tierlist: S: Viper (Too much value, also why it got to be one of the most costly), Deadlock (Being able to Counter Kay/O ult by itself is insane, because the ultimate instakills him even if he activated his ultimate, and completely cancel it, and the value of winning 2v1's with it also is insane, because you get an enemy, and then kill the other enemy trying to free him), Kay/O (Again, the value he gets is INSANE, being able to completely free a site by disabling everyone's util), Killjoy (Her ultimate is stupid. Just that.) A: Harbor (a lot of intel, literally get's enemies moving a lot, terror of vandal players), Yoru (Also lots of intel, his flashes bring tons of value like harbor stuns), Cypher (Not only his ult pings everyone, IT REVEALS EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE ON MINIMAP), Omen (Being able to TP across the map is crazy good. This means omen can be a Fake operator with his ultimate with the sentinel, and just TP out when the enemy rotate), Raze (Just a free kill, even if you don't hit exactly the enemy. Extremely valuable, but it is just usually one kill, and it leaves you vulnerable after shooting, so even if you kill your enemy, he can also kill you in the air) i'm tired, explaining 26 or so characters and why they are ranked where they are is painful...
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You said like 5 times that you rate by failure rate Jett knifes is rly bad then
Yoru ult being anything less than S tier makes no sense. It's completely free info, you can grab a gun/spike and rotate, you can flash for your team from anywhere, you can set up devastating pinches, and you can do all of that with a 0% fail rate. The only time it requires any skill is if you try a "shorty stomp." Otherwise, it's free value, and I don't even play much Yoru.
I see where the creator of the vid was coming from, I don’t think he saw where you’re coming from.
At first thought, I was like “Yoru B tier isn’t that bad. It’s basically just a human drone.” But I wasn’t thinking about the flexibility, and I agree with you, probably A tier minimum.
Yeah I don't know how they pray Phoenix for intel gathering even though Phoenix can be killed but not Yoru.
He's a at least but I'd say s .. I main yoru love him his flashes are the best in game imo and that teleport is amazing
@@jacobhoang1497 well phoenix can also kill, yoru can't so that's fair, besides. Phoenix ult forces the defenders out of site most of the time and is like a free entry, but I dont think anyone would run away from a yoru ult.
@@floplez bro who run from Phoenix ult? You know you can shoot him right? Yoru can run in without any harm, gather information and get in a position to plank the enemies from almost anywhere.
bro cooked and burnt the entire house💀💀
Oh oh reyna main is mad
Bro cooked something inedible
as a reyna main her ult is pretty bad compared to the others..
This guy sounds like he doesnt even know what game this is
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bruh fade ult defines you +has a decay combined with info it should be A
it also allow your team to rush, forcing enemy team to back down
deafens* but yes, it can be comboed with yoru tp or omen tp and other things
Yeah he was on one with fade.
No hearing, revealing locations, and decay is so strong. One of the best ultimates imo
I thought this too myself Aswell
never let bro cook again
Never rate again
harbors ult isnt meant for fighting, its meant for info gathering, and at that its really good, also it counters op's pretty well.
and it DOES set up a fight where you have the advantage, because you know exactly where the enemy is but the enemy doesnt know where you are
Geah6
@@tekstego9654 a little info: you can see where is harbor by look from where he's ulting. His ult is moving forward harbor, so you just see from where he's ult moving, and you got harbor location
@@mizanamar but usually its not only the harbor there if its used to fight.
and if its used to gather info then the harbors position isnt really usefull
Not to mention, you can use his ult to clear out rats whether they move or not
Oooooo
Saying that Yoru ult is B tier makes me think that this guy never played this game in a competitive setting, It's the most versatile ult in the game, it can have clutch potential, it can give your whole team free info, it can create insane flanks, it allows you to flash for your team from anywhere, it's just insanely good
and it’s only 7 points technically 6 if you consider the fact that most times your either get a kill or die after you come out of it
After watching this, he only cares abt kills, he puts all.the debuff/info ults and positioning ults really low man has never played the game
The great thing about Thrash is you can use him twice in a round. So if you dont get good value the first time, you get another chance
You can use him as many times as you want per round, it's simply just if you can pick up theash
@@normalitybeans no you cant you can only use him twice
@@whoiscrazy Welp I got scammed
yoru at C is the worst decision on this list. its pure infomation AND an opportunity to go anywhere on the map, get kills or grab spike
How is skye ult that high bruh, they're little cabbages you can shoot to deny literally any value out of it except your vague location.
Literally, this guy literally putting anything location based on c tier while skye gets to be a is crazy asf
Yeah I think that skye’s ult is the worst in the game
Yoru's ult CAN be used for other stuff than fighting, like you can scout for the team, body block enemies, bait them, and etc. Like it really compliments your teammates and its a pretty useful ult, like dont ever cook again brother 💀🔥
literally a walking sova drone
But it also can send flashbangs, and use clones in front of enemies so you flash them while they try taking a fight.
this ultimate and harbor's are very good.@@realElectroZap
Bro that Yoru 4 person kill out of Astras Wall was nasty 🔥🔥🔥
Fade Gekko Yoru all S tier or top of A tier. Fade ult is a free retake and a free site take, deafens enemies and decays them so can combo with damage dealing abilities and things like omen and yoru tp. Also free info and combos amazingly with fade’s kit. Gekko’s ult is a constantly moving info gatherer that can combo well with other util, and the fact that it can take a whole site and be used the same round for post plant makes it S tier. And yoru is guaranteed value every time
as a deadlock main i can tell you her ult can be seroiusly impactfull, espacily in defender side, you can for example ult the planter and take the spike to you and force the enemys to you.
Another way is, most people want to shot the ulted one what gives you opertunity to peek and shoot back what throws of most peoples croshair placement
not to forgot it delivers you the enemy, so you can eco one round if you have ult
Bro picked up agents and their ultimates and put them randomly in tiers as he liked
Yoru Ult in my biased opinion (i’m a radiant yoru main) is one of, if not, the best ult in the game. It’s pure info meaning you can combo with other util or spam through smokes, counter viper ult, can be used on eco rounds, can be used to get past deadlock wall, trigger deadlock trip, tank skye ult, flash for your teammates, and in the hands of a good yoru usually results in a kill and a gun for your team. Also it’s only 7 points but if you consider the fact that once you come out of your ult most of the time the yoru will get the kill or die gaining you an extra ult point making it basically 6 ult points.
Please have static criteria if youre rating stuff. You would randomly say " depends on the player ", give stuff 3 tiers , and just put random caveats in depending on the agent ( synergies for instance ).
Have a list of 4 or 5 things youre comparing to and use that.
As for player hands, you need to have a set ranking, like diamond and up or something. Just not jump from top to bottom based on how you feel . ( then throwing an ult into 3 slots )
This felt like it was om the fly by someone just playing around in custom. Hell, some you didnt even have a spot, just asked the comments.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions... some opinions are just COMPLETELY wrong... like many on this list.
Iso ult should be C or d, 7 ult point just for 1v1
true, the only decent value it could MAYBE have is like kidnapping a raze in her ult or a chamber in his ult or any person opping (if u have ur shield on). another thing could be kidnapping the defuser. other than that really isn't much value other than a 1v1
@@realElectroZapDepends... He assumes that the person playing Iso is a proper Iso player... Meaning, if you're not a top tier aimer and you pick Iso you're trolling anyway... So in theory if you're the best aimer in the lobby you can delete one person... Also it's amazing for guaranteeing a win when you're 2v1 by kidnapping the last opponent and having your teammate wait for him in case you lose to shoot his face for free...
It's not that bad of an ult but you need to be confident about your dueling skills... But iso is all about winning 1v1 very consistently to begin with
Technically a 6 point ult
U can just a cypher into a sketchy black van and remove his utility for 10 seconds (or the rest of the round) and make space for your team. Also with the buff of being able to bring his shield into the ult i think its at least A in the right hands.
Sum up this chart, pure info-providing ultimates are bad, and ultimates that good for taking fights are brilliant. Well done.
Fade ultimate decays and deafens and can also displace enemies if they try to avoid it...
Saying that brims ult doesn’t synergize with his kit doesn’t make much sense to me. I can’t tell you how often I use it on offense with a Molly lineup to guard the spike after plant. If you don’t know what I mean, watch pretty much any Perry2n video and you should see it. It’s incredible!
How is omen c ?
He can pick the spike for a complete plot twist
He can pick guns with it
He gets info
He can fake it
He can rotate
For me omen's ult is at least an A for real as an omen main it is a complete game changer
at the very minimum a B
it just IS NOT a C
You can hear where he is teleporting
compared to every other ultimate its def C
Yeah I agree with the guy above me. Compared to the power level of other ults in the game it is definitely C tier. I play a lot of Omen, and it’s one of the reasons I enjoy other characters. It’s not as flexible of an ult as it seems, and it’s situational where I feel the best use of ults in general is frequent use.
For example: Gekko always has ult because he’s always planting and probably farming orb. On top of that he gets 2 in a round if he uses it right. Chamber’s ult can make your team’s economy so much more stable. Viper can completely win rounds with the pit because anyone pushing her dies fast.
Holy so many ppl defending yoru ult, I was about to do that and I just saw the sheer amount off people talking about it 💀
14:30 ok there is a reason why yoru ult is getting an extra ult point for a reason
Yoru ult at B hurts. It sets up pushes you can distract with the decoy allowing your team to push if needed you use it for recon and then move to a preset teleport and flank and so much more. that Ult in the right hands is incredible
Not Dead Yet is a least A. While its possible to completely tank it. The potential is has when used correctly literally wins rounds. Clove is literally a Controller-Duelist hybrid with her kit.
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@@swat4751 hey get it right please
Yoru ult is arguably the strongest ult in pro play and in ranked good yoru players could also outplay and the ult itself is really versatile you can combo with other ults and counter viper pit
yoru ult with his abilities is crazy. its a great ult. ur crazy for that one
Fade ult not only provides info, but it cutts all the sound, even the voice chat
Omen ult is not that bad at aggressive playing, also you can take the spike, and you can dissapear entirely for 3 seconds to confuse ur enemy
I wanted to say something about Yoru, but everyone already did
Also Omen ult becomes even better when played with fade ult
Honestly, I might be bias because I'm an Iso main but I would've put kill contract in A or S tier because you mentioned that the ult requires you to have good aim to win the ult, and its not a guarantee to win which is true. But, if you communicate with your teammates well, they can camp their spawn so IF you do lose, your team will still get the kill, which is great if you use it for a spike planter/defuser or for hard to kill players for a 100% kill rate. And, as you mentioned, you put game-changing and 100% success in S/A tier.
also with the recent buff on his E, he now has a clear advantage when using his ult since you can now force a shield before entering the domain
Yeah, I’ve seen it used incorrectly, but like if you use it correct at all you have it in clutch situations and your team can help you guarantee the kill. Raze ult isn’t guaranteed, famously. Neon ult isn’t guaranteed. Personally, I struggle with Jett knives. So compared to other duelists, yeah a guaranteed kill is strong.
Also the fact that you have a shield, it went from a 55-45 to a 65-35 if you’re playing correct at all.
I don’t think iso ult should go S or A tier, it should go either high C tier or low to mid B tier since it’s not always in your favour
@diamondguy-xs4lg my guy, he literally said put your opinions in the comments, self reflect rq
Explain to me why skyes ult is better for info than cyphers
cyphets
@@deep08j whoops
you can play off it
Yeah cyhers. Ult is usefull but skyes ult is just like 3 people nearby but cypher reveals every one
Cypher's ult reveals. Skye's ult nearsights or requires you to shoot it
He said so many of the names wrong it’s crazy for neutral thief. He got it wrong.
yoru ult is very nice if you hate operaters =)), in the round that you sees the enemy with an op, sneak behind them, get the kill them tp back to safety
I just don't understand the ranking system. How can Sova's ult can be higher than Omen's and Yoru's ones?
Omen can be teleported to any point of the map with this ult. It would he good just with a single function but he can do much more! He can take spike from anywhere, he can gather info, he can make enemies paranoid and, of course, he can make such good flank.
Yoru also can take spike, make enemies paranoid and flank greatly, but his info gathering ability is on another level. Yeah, maybe he doesn't insta kill, but putting a little bit of thought can give you guaranteed kills.
And Sova? Most of the time, Sova in my team doesn't even kill anyone with his ult. It's easily avoidanle if you are not stunned.
fade ult is easily a tier. its not only info its anti info for the enemy team, allowing lurkers from your team to run in guns blazing getting easy double or tripple kills from behind without the enemy realizing anything b4 they re dead. also it decays, meaning combined with the traces u can get easy wallbang kills without even going into a 50 50 cenario.
Edit: u said astra is potentialy the best cause it cuts of sound and dmg. well that is for enemy and your team. fade ult cuts of sound only for the enemy... astra ult in bronze rank is usually something i love my enemys to use cause it allows me, their enemys to get many easy kills. i agree astra ult is top but the floor is z tier helping enemys.
Also KJ ult can often be used to catch KJs team off guard cause they think ok no enemy here and then u just shoot a bunch of people that have knives out.
fades ult is pure info so eh
for me your ult is S tier. maybe because i play only yoru? idk but man his ult is sooo good u can gather info safely and return with your team after u ult, clone, de ult on a safe place to make them think u still there and they will focus on my location and let the bois entry rush.
i used to be a cypher main, his ult is so easy to get that every other round you can almost instantly know where they are, its at least b tier
Gekko's ultimate should be A beacuse you can pick it back up
if u do mess up the yoru ult, u can still keep like a backup tp or smt and get away. i tihnk yoru needs some more love man . and reyna's ult is also cheap, that she needs to be higher in the list.
yorus ult (at worst case ) gives u a toon of info and can set up a kill
Gekkos ult is a lot better than you said it is. Sure nothing crazy but if you know that there are multiple enemies close to eachother a 200 hp gekko ult with fast speed it gonna be a pain to kill, and the dețin for 6 seconds is really good. The best part is that its re-usable if you pick it back up so honestly it deserved to be higher than you rated it.
Thrash is literally a Skye dog that is faster, has a stronger debuff that lasts longer in a larger radius, and can be used twice. It is much better than what he said.
Yea thats what im saying
dude even even show the reyna ult in the clip lol
bro did not cook in the slightest
gekko ult is just a skye dog on steroids. It's very good for info and you get a free pick.
i think you keep saying high skill floor when high skill ceiling is more accurate, you keep talking about potential and that’s the ceiling. high skill floor requires immense effort to get any value. high skill ceiling is the immense potential of value based on how good the person is. i’m guessing it was just a slip in recording you didn’t catch.
u can pick up gekkos ulti and use it again
it adds more value to it
Worst teir list ever
I think gekko ultra need too be in the top of A for the reason to be usable twice
actually habors ult is good for postplant scenes and when you have a numbers disadvantage it can also give great info about enemy locations
I'm no Cypher user, but in a game where the tiniest bit of info helps win a round, I think his Ult should be at least low A tier or a very high B tier.
Hey i have a question, Do you think neon has solo carry potential
Yes definitely because of her high mobility and crazy Ult she definitely has I see people not even being that good getting Ace after Ace and stuff so she is very good especially after the recent buff
After the buff, yeah
really? Skye's ult as same tier as Viper's?
And sky indirectly reveals 3 people versus cypher directly revealing their entire team?
@@rusticwolf3079 Yeah that's one thing in particular I just did not understand. How is Skye's better than Fade and Cypher's while being an info ultimate. He said pure info ults are bad but Cypher is just better for pure info than Skye since he gives exact positions while Fade gives Prowler auto target, deafened, and decay allowing you to be aggressive. Is he assuming you get the nearsight on Skye? If that's the case why didn't he consider the decay on Fade? Makes no sense along with the other shit he said.
Fade's ult - Info gatherer and make prowler much more useful, decay, deafens enemy and it is only info.
Skye- only shows where three opponents are and better than Fade's ult??
Is it just me or I am missing something?
In skye's ult you can gather info on enemy from anywhere on the map but that's not the case for fade, yes fade ult is good for site take and retake but if no one is there when ulted that ult is basically wasted with no info gathered
@@Shivekverma82 You gathered, that the area is clear. It's still info.
Clove's ultimate is kinda miss placed. Its more of an entry ultimate like run it down. Unlike pheonix you are not being cancelled instantly. If that happens then resurrect to enter with invulnerablity and allow dualist to do cover fire and enter site
First nice Video, you guys put some work on it. You get every single time value for free with Yoru ult, it's an invisible Sova Drone, that can Flashes and if you think you can't handle the situation you just TP out and take the free info. In addition to that, you can set up plays to get to surprising spots or play around teammate's utility like Fade and Sova ult ore even breach stun. But I think you didn't catch that because in the Video it locked like you didn't know what Fade ult does. I think we have to think twice about Yoru and Fade here. Have a good day guys
Phoenix ult on S
yoru ult on B
do not cook again bro
As a Deadlock main; I agree with the placement.
Soo Astra is good cus it blocks info and cuts sound and fades ult is worse cus it does damage forces enemies to back up tells u where they are and blocks sound onl6 on their side
This list hurts me knifes, showstopper, the reckoning, thrash, and fade ult. ALL need to be considered when you decide where and how to play a round, disrespecting them like this straight up loses you rounds😅. They may have some failure rate but not any more then CHAMBER ult or Sova ult, or viper ult which you put A anyway… huh???? I mean I like your A and S tier but B and C are inconsistent with the criteria you mentioned considering how you placed other ults.
As a Gekko, fade, and harbor enjoyer, I agree with you. I think played correctly, each ult has a great argument for being stronger than he ranked. Viper SHOULD be S, if you’re on attack and your entire team dies, all you need is spike and a pit to instantly win. Especially because he put KJ at the top, I would argue viper and KJ have very similar ults in terms of impact.
@@SgtGatorade Oh FUCK NO, VIPERS ULT IS NOT AN INSTA WIN AND IS WAY WORST THAN KJ BUDDY.
@@doomrambo6662 you don’t know what ur doing then lol
hunter's fury is pure value in many ways unless you shoot it into the freaking abyss
How u gonna put iso ult at B then but deadlock ult at C(I like playing deadlock)
cypher's ult should full body mark for 8 seconds but +1 point.
yoru and gekko ult are underated gekkos is a free kill reusable and good ant at gathering info and yorus ult is good for info setups and getting spike
Bro, saying harbor ultimate is C tier is stupid.
It is basically a free spot. Don't matter if you don't get the trades, you know WHERE THEY ARE. this by itself is a strong tool, and suits even better with your duelist. You can set up an unwinnable 1v1 for the person on site and get the site for free just with harbor util + ultimate.
Saying it is C tier when even Proplayers know it's value is stupid.
And also harbor ultimate has same thing as Paranoia had before, if you ult walking foward it will be faster, and walking backwards it will be slower, so you can basically lockdown a place or hunt them down with it.
Very underrated ult.
Fade decays and deafens to make fights significantly easier
If you got a good team Fade's ult is one of the best
as a neon main neon ult is def 100% S tier.
Chamber and jett need to be way lower if you're focusing on use in the "average elo" or whatever you said. When you're in lower elo these ults get 0 value way too often.
Omen ult c tier is a war crime
reyna ult being on C makes no sense. Imagine a reyna with a spectre or odin, with brim stim, that fire rate is crazy, can definitely beats any gun other than snipers ;-; or 1 tap able gun. but it still great, should be in B or A
Skye’s ult at A and Cypher’s at C is crazy bs😂
DO ONE FOR THE AGENTS WHEN THE NEW ACT EPISODE
Bro you don't know the horror of hearing "THE HUNT BEGINS" in low elo.
i love how my main agents are being defended by the whole comment section that says yoru has a good ult and and desserves more
Fade ult c tier is criminal
viper ult at a is criminal
lol brim's ult in B , you need to re-evaluate it can kill 5 at once
and talking about "ifs" it is in each and every ult phoenix can get killed too neon can get shot in the head right after ult...any way
fade and gekko ult might be go to A tier and breach ult will go to S
Bro i main deadlock I'm telling u her ult should be at least A it's not good just for 1v1 as u said u can push and get a site for free cuz after the enemy hears MY TERRITORY MY RULES!! they gonna fall back and run for their lives (most of the time)
Sage ult: Rez a player so you can use them as bait
gekko ult should be higher because you can use it twice
And most gekkos are full time spike hogs. They get it 3 times minimum per half.
imagine being able to teleport anywhere on the fucking map and calling it bad.
there r soooooo many scenarios in which you need to rotate instantly and you can also get the spike and plant it miles away from the opponents (here u have the upper edge as they r not hold a site anymore YOU are)
Can we get a gun tierlist plz
fade one is crazy ngl
Fade ult adds decay and deafen, easy a tier
DAMN SECOND, can u tell me which app do you use for editing
If yoru and Reyna went lower coz of failure rate then clove should too
Bro tried to cook and burned it😊😊😊😊😊
Bruhh i watched the video where this man rates all of gekko signature and basic abilities in b NOW HE PUTS thrash in b gonna be honest this one is pretty understandable BUT STILL
I think neon ult deserves A
Huh how is phoenix and sage s but clove be b that makes no sense
Kayo's ult give his place😢
Your ultimate IS free Info and Kills.
Yoru is A in the lowest
Just one thing to say Before The video, FINALLY
My tierlist:
S: Viper (Too much value, also why it got to be one of the most costly), Deadlock (Being able to Counter Kay/O ult by itself is insane, because the ultimate instakills him even if he activated his ultimate, and completely cancel it, and the value of winning 2v1's with it also is insane, because you get an enemy, and then kill the other enemy trying to free him), Kay/O (Again, the value he gets is INSANE, being able to completely free a site by disabling everyone's util), Killjoy (Her ultimate is stupid. Just that.)
A: Harbor (a lot of intel, literally get's enemies moving a lot, terror of vandal players), Yoru (Also lots of intel, his flashes bring tons of value like harbor stuns), Cypher (Not only his ult pings everyone, IT REVEALS EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE ON MINIMAP), Omen (Being able to TP across the map is crazy good. This means omen can be a Fake operator with his ultimate with the sentinel, and just TP out when the enemy rotate), Raze (Just a free kill, even if you don't hit exactly the enemy. Extremely valuable, but it is just usually one kill, and it leaves you vulnerable after shooting, so even if you kill your enemy, he can also kill you in the air)
i'm tired, explaining 26 or so characters and why they are ranked where they are is painful...
Bro completely ignored Decay and Deafen on Fade Ult, L placement