As a dragoon player, I pride myself on backflipping well. It’s a really useful positioning tool if you know how to aim it. I’ve saved myself in savage so many times with that one ability
I agree, for a long time I have strained to learn to be a more precise Dragoon by learning fights, and the timing of my jumps; I tend to make healers more stressed now due to threading the needle with my attacks. XD
Pro-tip for mastering the evasive leap with Dragoon: spend a lot of time jumping and spinning your WoL around in the air while moving; once it becomes second nature to reposition your WoL this way, you can quite easily spin yourself around to jump in the direction you actually want to, upping your mobility significantly. Of course, that can't stop you from overshooting, so getting used to just how far your jump can take you is also key. - a Dragoon main
Back in the 2.0 days I came up with the idea that my lalafell was actually an imp voidsent that possessed a dead corpse because it thought adventuring looked fun and needed a disguise. With Reaper's release it was a no brainer what job it would be for the expansion. A White Mage.
Minor connection- the first Dragoons weren't dragon _slayers,_ but rather dragon _riders_ The dragons of yore took Dragoons with them to battle as comrades in arms (in Tales from the Storm, it's mentioned Ratatoskr herself was a known fan of this co-op) The progenitors of this art stood shoulder to wing with giants, and I find it exceptionally awesome
Careful, that's not entirely true. The individuals you speak of did indeed exist! But they were not the dragoons we have. Prince Haldrath marked the beginning of Dragoons as we know them, and the discipline became tailor made to slay dragons. It ceased being a Pre-Dragonsong art many centuries ago. Perhaps it has the chance to become what it once was in ages passed, but that will take time, and only the dragons themselves would remember what techniques those knights employed. The Holy See would have made sure the Soul Crystals didn't possess Pre-War knowledge.
@@CalamitasDeus Like I said already. They did exist, but those dragoons weren't the same we have. Same name/concept, but different disciplines. The WoL inherited the Ishgardian Dragon Slayer arts, not the Pre-War dragon rider arts.
@Synodic Scribe this is why I wish we had more lore on skills, especially those who are 70+ Dragoon has quite a few skills that feel less dragoon and more... _dragon_ at this point, namely the Draconian Fire openers and Chaotic Spring/Stardiver (which are Nidhogg's moves) It might be my obsession with this job, but every move just oozes stories to me
For a WoL in particular, there's more to some of these jobs than just the lore you touched on here. The WoL who mains ninja actually started as a rogue, for example, combining the knifework of those upright thieves with Doman techniques to create entirely new abilities. The rogue guild also has their own code and serve Limsa Lominsa and her people from the shadows...a lot like ninjas do. The class leads into the job very well from a lore perspective.
I'd like to add to the Reaper segment that the WoL in particular is VERY VERY rich in aether, and for the WoL that mains Reaper, they need to be on near constant alert, because the voidsent on the other side of their avatar I'm sure would be more than eager to wait for them to make a misstep so they can have all that sweet, succulent aether to itself
I would also like to add this for DRG. Their AF1 gear is specifically designed to come apart and kill a dragon from the inside if the Dragoon wearing it got eaten. Because it happened. That often.
@@ChrisWizzerd MNK is literally the highest rDPS job in the entire game at the moment lol, I totally get how a job rework could make you lose interest in it, but to say that it is worthless is just flat out wrong.
I do love how Post Endwalker MSQs gives a bit of a sneaky lore and has unique dialogue options exclusively for the RPRs mains where Zero actually compliments you for not going crazy and noticed that we didn't force out avatar to serve against its will and instead treated it with care.Something which is a huge foreign concept to not only her but most void sents and contracted avatars as they lived a more different lives. That and exploring the 13th also gave me a weird feeling where the Avatar you're contract with isn't technically evil per say but more misunderstood and necessity in which if you have respect it and treat it with care as eventually It'll grown onto you and you can even forge a bond with it.Granted you're still not supposed to get TOO attached with it otherwise you'll risk losing yourself and succumb to its power but if you got what it takes to tame your avatar.You're ready to defend anyone,It's like DRK in a sense. But treat it like Zenos where all you care about is power and hunger in which you abuse the Avatar you've contracted to a point even that fears you and well... You'll break yourself. Either Way,RPR needs more lore man.i do find them quite fascinating and i sure there is more to them than just being an "edgy lord",an impression DRKs had to Deal with yet their lore is spectacular.
Having played Ninja for the whole game up until the end of Endwalker and then switching to RPR as main for the Endwalker patch quests has been so satisfying, All those little nods and extra lines for reapers made it feel like the game really recognized my character's job switch
@@joripien This isn't the first time NPC's have noticed your job, and made comments about it no one else would. Try re-watching all the HEavensward quests as a Dragoon. Some real gold there.
@@tickledpickle5671 In Stormblood at the entry point to the DLC, one of the thaumaturgists calls you the Master of Destruction if you leveled up Black Mage
@@tickledpickle5671 90% of the reason I leveled up Dragoon prior to Ishguard. Having side content occasionally bringing up the other classes or events we run into prior also is kinda neat too.
I see the reaper as someone who decides to do whatever needs to be done to protect others, damn the consequences. After all, Drucilla did frequently tell us to piss off if we couldn't handle working with Garleans or void magics. Can't afford to be picky.
....The frog summoning comes from the 1806-1807 novels Katakiuchi Kidan Jiraiya Monogatari. Which was the direct inspiration to three characters in Naruto; Jiraiya, Tsunade and Orochimaru (thier names and associated animals literally did not change between inspiration and reference). The Immortal Toad Ascetic is not only Jiraiya's temporary mount, but he is also his mentor that teaches Jiraiya all the magical arts. Shinobi also often carried short swords, but paladin already exist in the game. So they had to change the name of the item type to refer a different weapon. To be fair Naruto takes a lot of references from a whole slew of sources from modern, fictional and historical in origin. From the old Kodan naritive arts(Sarutobi Sasuke), to historical novels (Jiraiya), to folk tales (Princess Kaguya), to classic mangas(Yu Yu Hakusho) and this is just 1 character reference sheet. But do to its popularity a lot of people just lump it up to Naruto. The tropes that make up Naruto existed long before the manga was made.
As a person that has mained Warrior, Dragoon, Monk, Samurai, Dark Knight, and Paladin so far these videos make my character appear as a very honorable and heroic person. And honestly I like that seeing how I spent hours to try and master every job. Especially for Dragoon. Now I always make sure I have enough room before I backflip
I always get curious why nobody mentions the BRD jumpback. RPR is a teleport that can go forward or backwards, and can return to original position. It’s movement is much easier to control. But BRD i have accidentally sent myself off a few cliffs….
but then we would need an OSHA inspector to come and ensure every boss arena's rails are up to code and able to keep a roegadyn dragoon away from the edge as well as a lalafell dragoon! Boss arena builders decided to trust no rails. rails aint shit but poles and sticks. Darwinism is the only railing they think we need.
I'm a Dark Knight main, but if ever I were to dip into Melee DPS, it'd be Samurai. As a Dark Knight, my entire reason for doing what I do is to protect the innocent, whether it be from Garlemald, Primals, or mere bandits. I've already effectively got something I've pledged my loyalty to - the people, wherever I may go, I shall defend them from that which threatens them. EDIT: Also I'm looking forward to videos for the other roles, please continue.
It's interesting you say this because for me, Samurai and Dark Knight seem to be two sides of the same coin. The art of Samurai Musosai passes down to the WoL is that of following justice instead of a lord and delivering said Justice to those who have strayed from the path, similar to Dark Knight. However where a Dark Knight would simply kill the wrong doer and strike fear in others, a Samurai would spare their life and simply cut down their "evil" inside, thus giving them a second chance to be better. So a Samurai is almost like a Dark Knight but more focused on honour and mercy. This is not to diss DRK tho lol, simply two different paths I find cool.
Reaper feels the set up working with most unlikely allies, we were ally our selfs with a being we truly dont know or understand. We always shown the void sent always seen as evil on our journey, yet one reached out making a pact with us and we accepted its deal to assit us on saving the world.
ooooh i like this! :D i main conjurer/white mage now but once i get high enough leveled i wanna try other classes/jobs too and reaper is high on that list! and i like how its sort of like working with another type of elemental..just... one from the void. following the ethereal voices that call to you and guide you to get a deeper understanding of the world and her sacred balance.
I main Monk because I like martial arts films, beat em up games, and dressing up my FMiqote in a qipao or street brawler gear :D I do like how this interpretation of the lore fits how I believe my WoL sees things as needing a balance of light and dark to achieve peace. Samurai used to be my sword using main, but when you realize there's three sword wielding jobs whose lore tie them to being historically protectors and vassals to lords, until they turn their attention to being one that follows a wanderers path to strike down evil doers... I have to side with the one with an exploding sword.
As someone who has leveled and plays every job, it's hard to know what I consider as my "main" job since I try to be flexible for the people that I play with. That being said, I do feel like I have a "main" job in each role being the job that I enjoy playing the most and Reaper is by far my go-to melee job. Honestly, Reaper lore seems pretty simple and it suits me just fine. I've made a contract with a voidsent who gives me power in exchange for suckling on the life of my fallen opponents which means that I'm hella powerful AND my voidsent is eating GOOOOD! Thanks to what we know about the void and voidsent now, it's also apparent that our contract with our voidsent is perfectly equitable despite Y'shtola giving us a slight warning about utilizing said power. I've personally always been a fan of a class or job that utilizes both magic and swordplay so while Red Mage stymies me a bit being too slow with it's casts I feel extremely powerful and quick as a Reaper who can go into a mode where I rip and tear super fast and end with a powerful bit of void magic. Just seeing how cool the job already is at this point makes me extremely excited by the prospects of what will be added to it in the next expansion.
There's a deep sense of satisfaction when I'm the only one alive after greeding, backflipping and then gap closing with Stardiver without losing uptime while the others who make fun of dragoons are dead on the floor lol
The reason for people saying Samurai should have been a tank is due to how Samurai play in Tactics (where all these classes come from anyway). Samurai in tactics wear heavy armor and are used as front liners to take hits and dish back the damage. So any who play tactics expect the Samurai to be tanks, specifically retaliation based tanks.
Actually, if you start digging deeper into the dragoon lore, especially doing some of the Moogle Tribe Quests, you learn that the orginal dragoons were not actually created to slay dragons... but to fight along side of them. They were dragon riders, as is the typical lore of dragoons in most other fantasy. They even had special saddles they used with their dragon companions, and there are ruins that still stand in Coerthas that were designated landing and barrack sites for dragoon/dragon pairs. This makes things with Estinien even more interesting later in the game when you realize he is the first dragoon in thousands of years to go back to their original roots when he becomes close to Virshan and his reconciliation with Nidhogg.
Not entirely correct. The roots of the modern Dragoon began with Prince Haldrath. In fact, we know next to nothing about the original dragon riders outside of them having been knights who who would ride dragons.
While Black Mage was the one I started with, I worked with Dragoon during my recent frolicks in Ishguard and plan to bring my Ninja when it's time to take the fight to Doma. Part of it is feeling like tying into the local customs and combat ways is wise to better intergrate with the people there, other parts it's to be thematic, and still others it's to help mix things up a bit as I work through all that post-patch content. Hell, my eventual plan for Shadowbringer and Endwalker's to main Dancer and Red Mage for those.
Awesome video as always, Scribe. While I'm a tank main, I do enjoy playing Samurai as my personal pick for melee DPS. And, yes-I'm actually one of the people surprised that Samurai isn't a tank job. This is because it always seems to be portrayed as a heavy armor fighter class in every bit of media outside of Final Fantasy XIV. Going back to the lore side of things, though... Instead of taking on the lore of the Samurai as it was intended, I actually have a different bit of head-canon of my own. I've spent some time on it, and it actually kind of tracks since I'm probably one of the few Samurai players who make use of a weapon that isn't an uchigatana: the Crystarium samurai blade, which looks more like the two-handed Swiss saber. Honing in on that head-canon: whenever I do play Samurai in content, I instead pretend the skills used by my character are actually derived from the Ivalician Divine Knights. You know, those guys who are more dogmatic than they are truly righteous or indignant towards authority-like the Holy Knights and Dark Knights respectively. I pretty much pretend that the main shtick of my 'Samurai' was the Crush: Weapon, Armor, Helm, and Accessory skills the Divine Knights use. I liked expanding the idea further to the point that they wield these arts with a weapon intended to cut instead of pierce-like a single-edged blade of a saber, et cetera-as a show that their arts are so intense and their conviction is so strong that a blade not intended for striking solid body defense like steel will find purchase anyway. As an aside, I laughed at the Reaper meme because that's how I play mine: a farmer with a big scythe-and even the glamour I use reflects that. In much the same vein, I pretend my Dragoon is actually a Limsan spearfisher. If Ishgardian Knight-Dragoons rule the skies, Limsan spearfishers rule the seas
"If you're a Monk main, your Warrior of Light has abandoned their ego to better see the world unclouded." Me, the lalafell monk main: haha go fast puncc and kicc
Although I'm a Reaper main full and through I always like to think that my Wol would've mained different jobs depending of the expansion as his history fluctuates with it Marauder-ARR Monk-HW Dragoon-SB Reaper-SHB Warrior-EW And by how you've explained it, it feels extremely accurate to what I envisioned of my WoL's story, it even cleared some doubts I had of choosing some jobs in some expansions
Hey. I feel like the Dragoon assessment spot on! Several times, the tnak has screwed up, died, and everything came for me. And I'd survive long enough for the healer to hard-cast a raise on the tank. And survive. Not an initiate at all! :3 And it also perfectly fit my Dragoon's story and background.
Of course, as you said. When there are no more dragon to fight.... Well, My DRG, Nora, has moved on to fighting the void. It took much from her, and though she's still directly dealing with a particular one in her fight against the Void, Her personal fight has gone from being the pride of her home, to being a fight that she takes very personally, and is always chasing, no matter the danger.
You know Ironically, I put a lot of thought into the concept that my wol began unlocking his chakra purely by accident and only because of it did he begin to study the methods of a monk. But he's a full mix of calm and collected, and crazy treating the fight like a fun blood sport (he loves a good spar), So he doesn't really fall in line with the lore of a monk anymore. Just an insanely overpowered fistfighter.
My WoL is a mix of Dragoon, Samurai, and Gunbreaker. These are all 100% accurate lol. Though I'm mastered jumping 99% of the time, and I only die when I mean to die to be a dink to my healer friends. I've never actually launched myself off an edge in all my years of playing. (Maybe because I knew the meme going into the class, and deliberately tried to NOT do that.)
Funny you used the Shadowbringers trailer - all the melee DPS got destroyed by the Lightlord but a TANK(aka Dark Knight) one-shot the Sin Eater without effort. XD
I'm a ninja main because I love dual dagger classes lol. Normally I play Rogue in RPGs, actually didn't realize that that class transitioned into NIN when I picked it. But it's a fun class with a good mix of utility, ranged, positionals, and the rotation is varied enough that it doesn't get boring.
Just yesterday i managed to dodge EX ifrit's roomwide that leaves 2 safe spots using Jump and heavensward's theme played loudly in my head, then died a few seconds later anyway because the other dps didn't stop hitting the nail and the healers couldn't keep up, it truly is the initiate's fate to tank the floor
I definitely play ninja for the playstyle, I played monk since ARR (Losing greaced lightning and attack speed, together with the patchwork fix to give a mechanic felt really bad), started raiding in EW and changed to reaper, and then changed to ninja because reaper was very boring. But I feel like it fits how I see my WOL, I'd totally see her pledging herself to a princess and her beliefs, so I don't mind living into the fantasy more. And it's definitely easier to live more into the ninja fantasy of it once I turned off damage numbers and ability effects.
So did Early Garleans stumble upon a working voidgate? Cause I can't think of a way they could have contacted the void sent otherwise. Modern magitech is well, modern. Within the last century or so, baring lucky finds of Alagan ruins... This also brings into question the whole 'Garleans are descended from Gulg' thing. Between Gulg and modern Garlemald, there were reapers. ... actually I could see the first Reapers getting hold of auracite now that I'm thinking on it. Speculation ho!
Likely a natural planar fissure. Voidgates are manmade. They were desperate enough to seek dark powers to survive. Based on what we saw of Lapis Manalis, there were no signs of machinery or magic to make a voidgate. It was just that it was specifically thin the barrier between worlds in that location.
You raise a deep and insightful point regarding the devoutness of monk mains, but counterpoint regarding monk mains: I just like punching things repeatedly and hitting buttons fast, and by god I'm still salty that my oGCD attacks were taken away. The thought process boils down to "Punch things, preferably more than once every two seconds".
It is very possible it is, since new souls can’t become reapers iirc, only sundered ancient souls are able to. I got that info from Reddit though so idk how accurate it is-
Honestly for as little lore as Reaper has atm i don't think ive seen the NPCs acknowledge the existence of a Job more than reaper, which makes sense since you literally have a demon on your back but we see it acknowledged even in event side quests like the Halloween one. Makes you wonder what they plan to do with it later on.
ARR: Archer (NOT BARD) will get you a handful of comments, but the moment you become a Bard it will stop. So you are looking in the under 30 content for this one. ARR: Warrior will get you comments all the way up to Ishguard, even everyone's favorite elven bud Haurchefant comments on you being a 'force of nature like a beast' in combat but only if you have War leveled. So 30+ content for this one. HW: Dragoon will get you the special comments here. HW: Paladin will get you comments at points but they are far fewer than if you have Drg leveled. Most comments will come from the Temple Knights and Priests. Remember that Paladin is fueled by Halone, the Fury, which is also Ishguard's primary deity. SB: Samurai and Ninja will get you comment in Doma and Kugane. Sam will get mentioned decently in Kugane and in and around the towns. Ninja gets you comments in the Doma HQ and with some side quests more than the MSQ. SB: Warrior will get special mentions on the Steppe from the tribes. SB: Monk and Red Mage will get you special comments in Ala Mhigo, though RM will only get you very small mention compared to Mnk. ShB: Dark Knight will get you quite a number of comments here. Even the Exarc comments on how well the title of WoD fits you these days. EW: Paladin will get you comments everywhere but Sharlayan. EW: Sage will net you comments in Sharlayan. EW: Reaper will get you a comment or two from Garlemald and of course from Zero. Reaper has the least recognition. Every single Halloween event has commented about Black Mages. Little Ladies has commented about Dancer, and Christmas comments about Paladin most times. They have hidden a bunch in the game that is amazing. It really makes New Game+ worth it.
I'm very excited with the prospect to dive deeper and learn the history and lessons for the ranged DPS classes and your interpretation as to why we might main them. I say as a ranged DPS main lol.
i like this idea, an interesting perspective… i mained RPR for EW and I was tryna decide if the lore worked with my character or not. But this I think makes it so 🤔
@@anarchicbean5888 yeah I had a similar conundrum Where I questioned whether my character would view the attunement of the avatar as ethical And the only way I could consider that “ethical” was if they had attuned to themselves from another reality
Honestly, I don't mind when a DPS job is simple. I'm the kind of player who tries to play as many jobs as I possibly can and trying to memorize any complex combos to execute just one attack can get to be a bit much when I'm not mainning that job specifically. Even more so if I constantly have to bounce back-and-forth between roles and having to memorize the attack patterns of endgame bosses. So, I never understand why some players complain so much when a job is simple in it's playstyle. Maybe they only ever play a few jobs and don't bother with the others?
Same here I prefer simpler jobs I get my enjoyment from figuring out bosses and their mechanics not from using 20 minutes rotations with a spreadsheet open.
I totally picked Samurai for the aesthetic and love it for the story behind it. I love a lot of the Jobs, though. Heck, I started as Conjurer for White Mage later on. 😅
The flavor for the melee DPS jobs is pretty nice and mostly centric on one thing : overwhelming power to slay your enemies. Monks figured out that your best weapon is your body and honed it to the point they can stand toe to toe with magical superweapons by *punching* them to death, Dragoon mastered aerial combat and, for the WoL, made it work for taking out more than just dragons, Ninjas are intended to eliminate threats quickly and efficiently through subterfuge and their ninjutsu, Samurais basically exercise the art of single-stroke elimination of their enemies while Reapers were basically a mean for a kind of people to use magic-like abilities while becoming ruthless assassins. You want something dead and don't mind the mess most of the time? Call in a melee DPS. P.S. : Enlightment for Monks... is kind of their ranged attack... otherwise, Thunderclap is their ranged attack... it just happens they are the payload! 😄
I miss Greased Lightning. Building speed and power overtime felt like a core part of Monk’s identity. Loosing stacks sucked sure, but you’d always get them back, much like…I don’t know, how some monks draw elaborate art in the sand only for the tide to sweep it away. I don’t know, I’m just salty it’s gone, that and our positionals.
HW inspired me to create a second character, starting as a Lancer, became Dragoon yet tried Red Mage and enjoyed it so much that I co-main both jobs. That being said I’m trying out Gunbreaker, and want to try out either Dancer or Machinist.
I learned melee DPSing as a MNK and I unlocked MNK simply for the punches and kicks. Nothing of the devotion to Rhalgr whatsoever. I knew it, I’m a PGL, not a MNK. XD Also, I thought most DRGs were killing themselves because they greed then fail to time their elusive jump correctly, they elusive jump off the stage accidentally, or because their jumps animation locked them. No-I myself died more often due to me using Jump like a gap closer forgetting that it returns me to my previous position.
I main Dragoon. I didn't mean to. I happened by accident. With the jokes about being the floor tank, and the backward swan dives off of elevated platform arenas, I could avoid all that if I just played a little bit here and a little bit there, nothing long-term mind you. I told myself I could stop any time I wanted. And I meant it. But, the more the DPS queue popped, the deeper down the rabbit hole I went. Just one more dungeon, the queue was fast. Just one more. Maybe just one more. Then it became a habit turned into obsession. That shiny blue armor, so shiny, and so blue. No other class could be as spikey as me. The spikey IS me. I AM the spikey. The spikey and I have become one. The lance...oh...hey...umm...ahem... Yeah. I play Dragoon. It's kind of cool.
What gave me a particular 'ooooh!' moment about Reaper was y'know the machina name Magitek Reaper. since, Reaper as a class was uttilized in armies up until the disovery of ceruleum and the name feels like a lil nod to ye olde days. Given just how far back your encounter with these war machina are, it is kind of fun to think about that it 'suddenly makes sense' in a way. Out of all melees I'm smitten the most with Reaper. To think i originally said I'm not going to try. haha.
5:43 --- What can I say? I never watched "Naruto" XD My head canon about my character is, she specialises in one job per role ^^° It just... keeps changing ^^°
I’m a Ninja main, but I have my character flavored more as still being a Rogue in service to the Maelstrom. My FC and I generally repackage my Ninjutsu abilities as aspected grenades or other gadgets instead.
Monk (Pugilist) main since Beta.. Its been a LONG road with a lot of people dissing monk for no RAtt, Once your stacks are up you have to get them back etc etc. I remember in storm blood when I had to correct a person who said Fire Tackle was best... When 2 wind tackles could give you another GL they didn't even know that. That Riddle of Fire didn't affect your Auto Attack speed and other things that folks really weren't aware of. Personally the only thing I miss about Monk is my aura of greased lightning, I had it since I turned monk and it was taken from me man.
I'm a pseudo-Reaper main. My WoL understands the contract as "I'll hold off from eating you as long as you're useful for me." Right now, she interprets it as a mutual agreement, but she's not exactly the brightest about things like this.
Hearing the dragoon stuff was funny considering I let my GM kill my WoL off in our DnD game (pregame) I felt slightly called out even though it was intentional! haha
8:40 My friend (SAM) always deals less damage than me (RPR) because he's always 4th on the enmity list. Don't ask how, and I know it's not his gear. Samurai just is that outclassed by Reaper because we can pop true north only when we need to do a burst attack.
I'm a tank main (paladin because I obviously chose the right city for the start. No, I didn't, I didn't want to start in Ul'dah) who just finished Endwalker/post-Endwalker MSQ and couldn't level a second job so far. But I'm interested in Reaper. So let's see how this holds up for me. FOR THE MEMES!
Stealing Monk's job aside, I think it's great Warrior is getting fist attacks as off-global cooldowns. I always thought that when you have an absolutely massive weapon that's slow to swing, throwing a quick punch or kick to keep your opponent off-balance between strikes makes sense. Which is also why I morn the loss of Dark Knight's ability to slap an opponent with a magically-charged backhand when their sword is still on the backswing. Instead their sword seems to weigh nothing now, as all their OGCDs involve swinging it FASTER. As for the actual topic of this video, well you've given me cause to think about my favorite Melee classes. Do they line up with my WoL's goals? Should be a good thought exercise.
As a sam main what if you dont serve anyone but take the path alone? I agree that they can never be understimated when it comes to loyalty, once they try to backstab, you are gone. He is that true loyal friend who will always stay with you until the very end ps: I never knew players really want this as tank instead. If you want a tank using katana just pick drk since its the only job who can wield masamune.
I've struggled to truly get into and commit to any of the melee classes. They all of something appealing. But they all of something going against it. For me, this reasons are: Dragoon - the amount of buttons, rotation, and inevitable suicide Monk - the mechanic doesn't do much for me, and all the confusing combos are a bit much for me. Samurai - hard to remember the skill names, and haven't wanted to commit to memorizing them, lol Ninja - similar to samurai, a lot of the names of the skill being japanese makes it hard to remember what's what. But, it's probably my favourite of the melee dps classes though. Reaper: The Warrior of Light using the power of darkness and death just feels wrong to me, so I honestly haven't even started the class yet. I hear it's fun though! I mainly play ranged DPS, magic DPS, and healer classes, so maybe just close range combat doesn't do it for me either. Lol.
@@draochvar9646 to be fair, the two times it happened, they thought I wasn't going to jump out of the way since most don't. They apologized since they saw the backflip but it was too late
So my main classes are MNK, WAR, SUM, DNC, and SGE. I also really enjoy BLU but since it can't go into group content very well I can't really call it a main. I'm going to jot down the traits that come with each job and see how the shape my personal WoL. Right now he's gone over MNK and WAR, so I have a weird survivalist that has devoted himself to Rhalgar. I'm curious how the other jobs will clash or support the personality.
Hm... I think SAM does fit my WoL relatively well, as does DRG(Once it's fun again >_>). RDM not so much, I still want SMN back. Sage and GNB, we'll see, I haven't watched those videos yet.
In all honesty? I just picked up reaper bc scythes look cool as hell and I think should be more common as weapons in video games. Maybe in a few expansions I can say it's for the lore but in all honestly my hc is my WoL just saw "Ooh cool weapon" and went with what was needed to use it.
As a dragoon player, I pride myself on backflipping well. It’s a really useful positioning tool if you know how to aim it. I’ve saved myself in savage so many times with that one ability
I agree, for a long time I have strained to learn to be a more precise Dragoon by learning fights, and the timing of my jumps; I tend to make healers more stressed now due to threading the needle with my attacks. XD
Good stuff bro
I am also using backflip a lot lol
How many more did you kill yourself with it though :^)
I have learned to love Dragoon in Frontline. Using that backflip to escape hairy situations is amazing
Pro-tip for mastering the evasive leap with Dragoon: spend a lot of time jumping and spinning your WoL around in the air while moving; once it becomes second nature to reposition your WoL this way, you can quite easily spin yourself around to jump in the direction you actually want to, upping your mobility significantly. Of course, that can't stop you from overshooting, so getting used to just how far your jump can take you is also key.
- a Dragoon main
Back in the 2.0 days I came up with the idea that my lalafell was actually an imp voidsent that possessed a dead corpse because it thought adventuring looked fun and needed a disguise. With Reaper's release it was a no brainer what job it would be for the expansion. A White Mage.
Lemme guess... BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY!
Lalafels are spawn of evil from beyond the void though.
@@warllockmasterasd9142 it’s true, we are. That’s why I give out cookies.
@@SuperRoboPopoto I knew it!
@@SuperRoboPopoto Wait you give out cookies? As a lalafel people give ME cookies all the time!
"why were there so few Dragoons? For the same reason why you're TANKING THE FLOOR!"😂
-Synodic "SAVAGE" Scribe😂
Minor connection- the first Dragoons weren't dragon _slayers,_ but rather dragon _riders_
The dragons of yore took Dragoons with them to battle as comrades in arms (in Tales from the Storm, it's mentioned Ratatoskr herself was a known fan of this co-op)
The progenitors of this art stood shoulder to wing with giants, and I find it exceptionally awesome
Careful, that's not entirely true. The individuals you speak of did indeed exist! But they were not the dragoons we have. Prince Haldrath marked the beginning of Dragoons as we know them, and the discipline became tailor made to slay dragons. It ceased being a Pre-Dragonsong art many centuries ago.
Perhaps it has the chance to become what it once was in ages passed, but that will take time, and only the dragons themselves would remember what techniques those knights employed. The Holy See would have made sure the Soul Crystals didn't possess Pre-War knowledge.
@@SynodicScribe Wait, then what about what Estinien was told in that one side story about how he got his trueblood armor?
@@CalamitasDeus Like I said already. They did exist, but those dragoons weren't the same we have. Same name/concept, but different disciplines. The WoL inherited the Ishgardian Dragon Slayer arts, not the Pre-War dragon rider arts.
@@SynodicScribe Wouldn't the theory be then that we already have some dragon rider skills as of the latest expansion or two?
@Synodic Scribe this is why I wish we had more lore on skills, especially those who are 70+
Dragoon has quite a few skills that feel less dragoon and more... _dragon_ at this point, namely the Draconian Fire openers and Chaotic Spring/Stardiver (which are Nidhogg's moves)
It might be my obsession with this job, but every move just oozes stories to me
For a WoL in particular, there's more to some of these jobs than just the lore you touched on here. The WoL who mains ninja actually started as a rogue, for example, combining the knifework of those upright thieves with Doman techniques to create entirely new abilities. The rogue guild also has their own code and serve Limsa Lominsa and her people from the shadows...a lot like ninjas do. The class leads into the job very well from a lore perspective.
Same goes for Pugilist into Monk, the fact that you trained as a fistfighter is something that's vital for the Stormblood job quests
I'd like to add to the Reaper segment that the WoL in particular is VERY VERY rich in aether, and for the WoL that mains Reaper, they need to be on near constant alert, because the voidsent on the other side of their avatar I'm sure would be more than eager to wait for them to make a misstep so they can have all that sweet, succulent aether to itself
I would also like to add this for DRG. Their AF1 gear is specifically designed to come apart and kill a dragon from the inside if the Dragoon wearing it got eaten. Because it happened. That often.
The explanation at 4:18 about how both actual dragoon trainees and dragoon players don't "get it" opened a whole new perspective for me. Brilliant.
As a Monk main i do have to say i miss when i could run faster than ninjas with riddle of the wind. Great vid as always!
Ah, yes
Fists of Town
I mained Monk forever... Until they crashed it and never fixed it
Now, instead of faster legs, you get faster fists. A good trade off.
@@simj202 debatable, monk has always been my main... But since they were nerfed just before stormblood they have been worthless ever since..
@@ChrisWizzerd MNK is literally the highest rDPS job in the entire game at the moment lol, I totally get how a job rework could make you lose interest in it, but to say that it is worthless is just flat out wrong.
I do love how Post Endwalker MSQs gives a bit of a sneaky lore and has unique dialogue options exclusively for the RPRs mains where Zero actually compliments you for not going crazy and noticed that we didn't force out avatar to serve against its will and instead treated it with care.Something which is a huge foreign concept to not only her but most void sents and contracted avatars as they lived a more different lives.
That and exploring the 13th also gave me a weird feeling where the Avatar you're contract with isn't technically evil per say but more misunderstood and necessity in which if you have respect it and treat it with care as eventually It'll grown onto you and you can even forge a bond with it.Granted you're still not supposed to get TOO attached with it otherwise you'll risk losing yourself and succumb to its power but if you got what it takes to tame your avatar.You're ready to defend anyone,It's like DRK in a sense.
But treat it like Zenos where all you care about is power and hunger in which you abuse the Avatar you've contracted to a point even that fears you and well...
You'll break yourself.
Either Way,RPR needs more lore man.i do find them quite fascinating and i sure there is more to them than just being an "edgy lord",an impression DRKs had to Deal with yet their lore is spectacular.
Having played Ninja for the whole game up until the end of Endwalker and then switching to RPR as main for the Endwalker patch quests has been so satisfying, All those little nods and extra lines for reapers made it feel like the game really recognized my character's job switch
@@joripien This isn't the first time NPC's have noticed your job, and made comments about it no one else would. Try re-watching all the HEavensward quests as a Dragoon. Some real gold there.
@@tickledpickle5671 There are a couple drops from Yugiri if you do the Doma part of Stormblood with Ninja leveled up.
@@tickledpickle5671 In Stormblood at the entry point to the DLC, one of the thaumaturgists calls you the Master of Destruction if you leveled up Black Mage
@@tickledpickle5671 90% of the reason I leveled up Dragoon prior to Ishguard. Having side content occasionally bringing up the other classes or events we run into prior also is kinda neat too.
I see the reaper as someone who decides to do whatever needs to be done to protect others, damn the consequences. After all, Drucilla did frequently tell us to piss off if we couldn't handle working with Garleans or void magics. Can't afford to be picky.
@Demonqueen Lilith Whichever reaper this avatar belongs to, come and grab them, they got loose
....The frog summoning comes from the 1806-1807 novels Katakiuchi Kidan Jiraiya Monogatari. Which was the direct inspiration to three characters in Naruto; Jiraiya, Tsunade and Orochimaru (thier names and associated animals literally did not change between inspiration and reference). The Immortal Toad Ascetic is not only Jiraiya's temporary mount, but he is also his mentor that teaches Jiraiya all the magical arts. Shinobi also often carried short swords, but paladin already exist in the game. So they had to change the name of the item type to refer a different weapon.
To be fair Naruto takes a lot of references from a whole slew of sources from modern, fictional and historical in origin. From the old Kodan naritive arts(Sarutobi Sasuke), to historical novels (Jiraiya), to folk tales (Princess Kaguya), to classic mangas(Yu Yu Hakusho) and this is just 1 character reference sheet. But do to its popularity a lot of people just lump it up to Naruto. The tropes that make up Naruto existed long before the manga was made.
As a person that has mained Warrior, Dragoon, Monk, Samurai, Dark Knight, and Paladin so far these videos make my character appear as a very honorable and heroic person. And honestly I like that seeing how I spent hours to try and master every job. Especially for Dragoon. Now I always make sure I have enough room before I backflip
Dragoons trained 2 classes to backflip, both red mage and reaper
Reapers don't backflip we teleport 😆
@@Livingdead7 Hell-a-port.
@@Livingdead7 And I have seen more reapers die to it than dragoons for awhile now.
I always get curious why nobody mentions the BRD jumpback. RPR is a teleport that can go forward or backwards, and can return to original position. It’s movement is much easier to control. But BRD i have accidentally sent myself off a few cliffs….
Shoutouts to RDM, the only class where , for a brief period, their "kill yourself" button was part of their regular rotation.
Hey, if the trial arenas had decent rail guards there'd be fewer death jumps
Sounds like Initiate speak to me!
@@SynodicScribe guard rails: the equivalent of training wheels for DRGs
simply don't die, it's uncanny how easy it is
@@Space-1255 I mean, how hard can it be? Right?
but then we would need an OSHA inspector to come and ensure every boss arena's rails are up to code and able to keep a roegadyn dragoon away from the edge as well as a lalafell dragoon! Boss arena builders decided to trust no rails. rails aint shit but poles and sticks. Darwinism is the only railing they think we need.
I'm a Dark Knight main, but if ever I were to dip into Melee DPS, it'd be Samurai. As a Dark Knight, my entire reason for doing what I do is to protect the innocent, whether it be from Garlemald, Primals, or mere bandits. I've already effectively got something I've pledged my loyalty to - the people, wherever I may go, I shall defend them from that which threatens them.
EDIT: Also I'm looking forward to videos for the other roles, please continue.
There’s decent Samurai armor and glamour for Tanks. Especially for Dark Knight. The Odenta Kai weapon.
It's interesting you say this because for me, Samurai and Dark Knight seem to be two sides of the same coin. The art of Samurai Musosai passes down to the WoL is that of following justice instead of a lord and delivering said Justice to those who have strayed from the path, similar to Dark Knight. However where a Dark Knight would simply kill the wrong doer and strike fear in others, a Samurai would spare their life and simply cut down their "evil" inside, thus giving them a second chance to be better. So a Samurai is almost like a Dark Knight but more focused on honour and mercy. This is not to diss DRK tho lol, simply two different paths I find cool.
Reaper feels the set up working with most unlikely allies, we were ally our selfs with a being we truly dont know or understand. We always shown the void sent always seen as evil on our journey, yet one reached out making a pact with us and we accepted its deal to assit us on saving the world.
ooooh i like this! :D i main conjurer/white mage now but once i get high enough leveled i wanna try other classes/jobs too and reaper is high on that list! and i like how its sort of like working with another type of elemental..just... one from the void. following the ethereal voices that call to you and guide you to get a deeper understanding of the world and her sacred balance.
I main Monk because I like martial arts films, beat em up games, and dressing up my FMiqote in a qipao or street brawler gear :D I do like how this interpretation of the lore fits how I believe my WoL sees things as needing a balance of light and dark to achieve peace. Samurai used to be my sword using main, but when you realize there's three sword wielding jobs whose lore tie them to being historically protectors and vassals to lords, until they turn their attention to being one that follows a wanderers path to strike down evil doers... I have to side with the one with an exploding sword.
Yeah but the level 90 paladin skill is SO SATISFYING. You get a 4 hit aoe chain that wrecks single and groups while also healing you with each hit.
As someone who has leveled and plays every job, it's hard to know what I consider as my "main" job since I try to be flexible for the people that I play with. That being said, I do feel like I have a "main" job in each role being the job that I enjoy playing the most and Reaper is by far my go-to melee job. Honestly, Reaper lore seems pretty simple and it suits me just fine. I've made a contract with a voidsent who gives me power in exchange for suckling on the life of my fallen opponents which means that I'm hella powerful AND my voidsent is eating GOOOOD! Thanks to what we know about the void and voidsent now, it's also apparent that our contract with our voidsent is perfectly equitable despite Y'shtola giving us a slight warning about utilizing said power. I've personally always been a fan of a class or job that utilizes both magic and swordplay so while Red Mage stymies me a bit being too slow with it's casts I feel extremely powerful and quick as a Reaper who can go into a mode where I rip and tear super fast and end with a powerful bit of void magic. Just seeing how cool the job already is at this point makes me extremely excited by the prospects of what will be added to it in the next expansion.
Ngl In character my Au Ra dps is probably a mix of Dragoon/Samurai/Spellblade cause mostly I think Twinblades are neat.
DRG: "Did you know you have an ability that straightup sends you to the abyss and fucking kills you?"
RDM, SAM, RPR: *"Tell me more."*
There's a deep sense of satisfaction when I'm the only one alive after greeding, backflipping and then gap closing with Stardiver without losing uptime while the others who make fun of dragoons are dead on the floor lol
The reason for people saying Samurai should have been a tank is due to how Samurai play in Tactics (where all these classes come from anyway). Samurai in tactics wear heavy armor and are used as front liners to take hits and dish back the damage. So any who play tactics expect the Samurai to be tanks, specifically retaliation based tanks.
Ninja’s mechanical complexity and not-trick-it’s-mug-now also fit the idea of a thankless protected from the shadows
Actually, if you start digging deeper into the dragoon lore, especially doing some of the Moogle Tribe Quests, you learn that the orginal dragoons were not actually created to slay dragons... but to fight along side of them. They were dragon riders, as is the typical lore of dragoons in most other fantasy. They even had special saddles they used with their dragon companions, and there are ruins that still stand in Coerthas that were designated landing and barrack sites for dragoon/dragon pairs.
This makes things with Estinien even more interesting later in the game when you realize he is the first dragoon in thousands of years to go back to their original roots when he becomes close to Virshan and his reconciliation with Nidhogg.
Not entirely correct. The roots of the modern Dragoon began with Prince Haldrath. In fact, we know next to nothing about the original dragon riders outside of them having been knights who who would ride dragons.
While Black Mage was the one I started with, I worked with Dragoon during my recent frolicks in Ishguard and plan to bring my Ninja when it's time to take the fight to Doma. Part of it is feeling like tying into the local customs and combat ways is wise to better intergrate with the people there, other parts it's to be thematic, and still others it's to help mix things up a bit as I work through all that post-patch content. Hell, my eventual plan for Shadowbringer and Endwalker's to main Dancer and Red Mage for those.
Awesome video as always, Scribe.
While I'm a tank main, I do enjoy playing Samurai as my personal pick for melee DPS. And, yes-I'm actually one of the people surprised that Samurai isn't a tank job. This is because it always seems to be portrayed as a heavy armor fighter class in every bit of media outside of Final Fantasy XIV.
Going back to the lore side of things, though... Instead of taking on the lore of the Samurai as it was intended, I actually have a different bit of head-canon of my own. I've spent some time on it, and it actually kind of tracks since I'm probably one of the few Samurai players who make use of a weapon that isn't an uchigatana: the Crystarium samurai blade, which looks more like the two-handed Swiss saber.
Honing in on that head-canon: whenever I do play Samurai in content, I instead pretend the skills used by my character are actually derived from the Ivalician Divine Knights. You know, those guys who are more dogmatic than they are truly righteous or indignant towards authority-like the Holy Knights and Dark Knights respectively.
I pretty much pretend that the main shtick of my 'Samurai' was the Crush: Weapon, Armor, Helm, and Accessory skills the Divine Knights use. I liked expanding the idea further to the point that they wield these arts with a weapon intended to cut instead of pierce-like a single-edged blade of a saber, et cetera-as a show that their arts are so intense and their conviction is so strong that a blade not intended for striking solid body defense like steel will find purchase anyway.
As an aside, I laughed at the Reaper meme because that's how I play mine: a farmer with a big scythe-and even the glamour I use reflects that. In much the same vein, I pretend my Dragoon is actually a Limsan spearfisher. If Ishgardian Knight-Dragoons rule the skies, Limsan spearfishers rule the seas
"If you're a Monk main, your Warrior of Light has abandoned their ego to better see the world unclouded."
Me, the lalafell monk main: haha go fast puncc and kicc
I would love to see a Healing version of this! I was expecting a meme video but was so pleasantly surprised❤ Sch since ARR
Although I'm a Reaper main full and through I always like to think that my Wol would've mained different jobs depending of the expansion as his history fluctuates with it
Marauder-ARR
Monk-HW
Dragoon-SB
Reaper-SHB
Warrior-EW
And by how you've explained it, it feels extremely accurate to what I envisioned of my WoL's story, it even cleared some doubts I had of choosing some jobs in some expansions
Can't wait for the Healing Job Video! :D
Hey. I feel like the Dragoon assessment spot on! Several times, the tnak has screwed up, died, and everything came for me. And I'd survive long enough for the healer to hard-cast a raise on the tank. And survive. Not an initiate at all! :3 And it also perfectly fit my Dragoon's story and background.
Of course, as you said. When there are no more dragon to fight....
Well, My DRG, Nora, has moved on to fighting the void. It took much from her, and though she's still directly dealing with a particular one in her fight against the Void, Her personal fight has gone from being the pride of her home, to being a fight that she takes very personally, and is always chasing, no matter the danger.
You Dragoons floor tank to honor tradition.
I floor tank because I'm F'in' stupid.
We're not the same.
You know Ironically, I put a lot of thought into the concept that my wol began unlocking his chakra purely by accident and only because of it did he begin to study the methods of a monk.
But he's a full mix of calm and collected, and crazy treating the fight like a fun blood sport (he loves a good spar), So he doesn't really fall in line with the lore of a monk anymore. Just an insanely overpowered fistfighter.
My WoL is a mix of Dragoon, Samurai, and Gunbreaker. These are all 100% accurate lol. Though I'm mastered jumping 99% of the time, and I only die when I mean to die to be a dink to my healer friends. I've never actually launched myself off an edge in all my years of playing. (Maybe because I knew the meme going into the class, and deliberately tried to NOT do that.)
My Raen is a Ninja main and it is most fitting for her. And my pledge was propably to princess Yuki
These videos have been prettyfunny!
Excited to see the other jobs
Funny you used the Shadowbringers trailer - all the melee DPS got destroyed by the Lightlord but a TANK(aka Dark Knight) one-shot the Sin Eater without effort. XD
I'm a ninja main because I love dual dagger classes lol. Normally I play Rogue in RPGs, actually didn't realize that that class transitioned into NIN when I picked it. But it's a fun class with a good mix of utility, ranged, positionals, and the rotation is varied enough that it doesn't get boring.
Just yesterday i managed to dodge EX ifrit's roomwide that leaves 2 safe spots using Jump and heavensward's theme played loudly in my head, then died a few seconds later anyway because the other dps didn't stop hitting the nail and the healers couldn't keep up, it truly is the initiate's fate to tank the floor
You get a pass on this one
I definitely play ninja for the playstyle, I played monk since ARR (Losing greaced lightning and attack speed, together with the patchwork fix to give a mechanic felt really bad), started raiding in EW and changed to reaper, and then changed to ninja because reaper was very boring. But I feel like it fits how I see my WOL, I'd totally see her pledging herself to a princess and her beliefs, so I don't mind living into the fantasy more. And it's definitely easier to live more into the ninja fantasy of it once I turned off damage numbers and ability effects.
Or backflip out of the arena right as it gets sealed off.
So did Early Garleans stumble upon a working voidgate? Cause I can't think of a way they could have contacted the void sent otherwise. Modern magitech is well, modern. Within the last century or so, baring lucky finds of Alagan ruins...
This also brings into question the whole 'Garleans are descended from Gulg' thing. Between Gulg and modern Garlemald, there were reapers. ... actually I could see the first Reapers getting hold of auracite now that I'm thinking on it. Speculation ho!
Likely a natural planar fissure. Voidgates are manmade. They were desperate enough to seek dark powers to survive. Based on what we saw of Lapis Manalis, there were no signs of machinery or magic to make a voidgate. It was just that it was specifically thin the barrier between worlds in that location.
@ACGearsandArms sounds about right
And knowing the game, it's either this or "an Ascian taught them that"
You raise a deep and insightful point regarding the devoutness of monk mains, but counterpoint regarding monk mains: I just like punching things repeatedly and hitting buttons fast, and by god I'm still salty that my oGCD attacks were taken away. The thought process boils down to "Punch things, preferably more than once every two seconds".
I personally think it'd be really cool if our Reaper avatar turned out to be our Thirteenth shard.
would be funny but I am pretty sure we allready know our 13th shard. Why wouldn't Zenos choose a part of our soul as his own voidsent? :P
It is very possible it is, since new souls can’t become reapers iirc, only sundered ancient souls are able to. I got that info from Reddit though so idk how accurate it is-
Honestly for as little lore as Reaper has atm i don't think ive seen the NPCs acknowledge the existence of a Job more than reaper, which makes sense since you literally have a demon on your back but we see it acknowledged even in event side quests like the Halloween one. Makes you wonder what they plan to do with it later on.
ARR: Archer (NOT BARD) will get you a handful of comments, but the moment you become a Bard it will stop. So you are looking in the under 30 content for this one.
ARR: Warrior will get you comments all the way up to Ishguard, even everyone's favorite elven bud Haurchefant comments on you being a 'force of nature like a beast' in combat but only if you have War leveled. So 30+ content for this one.
HW: Dragoon will get you the special comments here.
HW: Paladin will get you comments at points but they are far fewer than if you have Drg leveled. Most comments will come from the Temple Knights and Priests. Remember that Paladin is fueled by Halone, the Fury, which is also Ishguard's primary deity.
SB: Samurai and Ninja will get you comment in Doma and Kugane. Sam will get mentioned decently in Kugane and in and around the towns. Ninja gets you comments in the Doma HQ and with some side quests more than the MSQ.
SB: Warrior will get special mentions on the Steppe from the tribes.
SB: Monk and Red Mage will get you special comments in Ala Mhigo, though RM will only get you very small mention compared to Mnk.
ShB: Dark Knight will get you quite a number of comments here. Even the Exarc comments on how well the title of WoD fits you these days.
EW: Paladin will get you comments everywhere but Sharlayan.
EW: Sage will net you comments in Sharlayan.
EW: Reaper will get you a comment or two from Garlemald and of course from Zero.
Reaper has the least recognition. Every single Halloween event has commented about Black Mages. Little Ladies has commented about Dancer, and Christmas comments about Paladin most times.
They have hidden a bunch in the game that is amazing. It really makes New Game+ worth it.
I'm very excited with the prospect to dive deeper and learn the history and lessons for the ranged DPS classes and your interpretation as to why we might main them. I say as a ranged DPS main lol.
My personal head cannon
Is that you attune to the thirteenth’s iteration of azem
So it’s like
Yeah if it tries it’ll just merge lol
i like this idea, an interesting perspective… i mained RPR for EW and I was tryna decide if the lore worked with my character or not. But this I think makes it so 🤔
@@anarchicbean5888 yeah I had a similar conundrum
Where I questioned whether my character would view the attunement of the avatar as ethical
And the only way I could consider that “ethical” was if they had attuned to themselves from another reality
All i want for future of samurai is the return of kaiten
Honestly, I don't mind when a DPS job is simple. I'm the kind of player who tries to play as many jobs as I possibly can and trying to memorize any complex combos to execute just one attack can get to be a bit much when I'm not mainning that job specifically. Even more so if I constantly have to bounce back-and-forth between roles and having to memorize the attack patterns of endgame bosses. So, I never understand why some players complain so much when a job is simple in it's playstyle. Maybe they only ever play a few jobs and don't bother with the others?
Same here I prefer simpler jobs I get my enjoyment from figuring out bosses and their mechanics not from using 20 minutes rotations with a spreadsheet open.
I totally picked Samurai for the aesthetic and love it for the story behind it. I love a lot of the Jobs, though. Heck, I started as Conjurer for White Mage later on. 😅
The flavor for the melee DPS jobs is pretty nice and mostly centric on one thing : overwhelming power to slay your enemies. Monks figured out that your best weapon is your body and honed it to the point they can stand toe to toe with magical superweapons by *punching* them to death, Dragoon mastered aerial combat and, for the WoL, made it work for taking out more than just dragons, Ninjas are intended to eliminate threats quickly and efficiently through subterfuge and their ninjutsu, Samurais basically exercise the art of single-stroke elimination of their enemies while Reapers were basically a mean for a kind of people to use magic-like abilities while becoming ruthless assassins.
You want something dead and don't mind the mess most of the time? Call in a melee DPS.
P.S. : Enlightment for Monks... is kind of their ranged attack... otherwise, Thunderclap is their ranged attack... it just happens they are the payload! 😄
My static's dragoon repeatedly jumps into the puddle during ruby 1 during p5s. We love them though.
I miss Greased Lightning. Building speed and power overtime felt like a core part of Monk’s identity. Loosing stacks sucked sure, but you’d always get them back, much like…I don’t know, how some monks draw elaborate art in the sand only for the tide to sweep it away.
I don’t know, I’m just salty it’s gone, that and our positionals.
At the same time, though, Blitzes have given the sort of depth that Greased Lightning could only dream of having
My friends and I loved saying "grease monkey, that funky monkey" when it came to monks grease
As an expert dragoon mogman I evade off the ledge every chance I can >:)
HW inspired me to create a second character, starting as a Lancer, became Dragoon yet tried Red Mage and enjoyed it so much that I co-main both jobs. That being said I’m trying out Gunbreaker, and want to try out either Dancer or Machinist.
I learned melee DPSing as a MNK and I unlocked MNK simply for the punches and kicks. Nothing of the devotion to Rhalgr whatsoever. I knew it, I’m a PGL, not a MNK. XD Also, I thought most DRGs were killing themselves because they greed then fail to time their elusive jump correctly, they elusive jump off the stage accidentally, or because their jumps animation locked them. No-I myself died more often due to me using Jump like a gap closer forgetting that it returns me to my previous position.
I main Dragoon. I didn't mean to. I happened by accident. With the jokes about being the floor tank, and the backward swan dives off of elevated platform arenas, I could avoid all that if I just played a little bit here and a little bit there, nothing long-term mind you. I told myself I could stop any time I wanted. And I meant it. But, the more the DPS queue popped, the deeper down the rabbit hole I went. Just one more dungeon, the queue was fast. Just one more. Maybe just one more. Then it became a habit turned into obsession. That shiny blue armor, so shiny, and so blue. No other class could be as spikey as me. The spikey IS me. I AM the spikey. The spikey and I have become one. The lance...oh...hey...umm...ahem... Yeah. I play Dragoon. It's kind of cool.
DRK & SMN main
**Waits for Caster version**
What gave me a particular 'ooooh!' moment about Reaper was y'know the machina name Magitek Reaper. since, Reaper as a class was uttilized in armies up until the disovery of ceruleum and the name feels like a lil nod to ye olde days. Given just how far back your encounter with these war machina are, it is kind of fun to think about that it 'suddenly makes sense' in a way.
Out of all melees I'm smitten the most with Reaper. To think i originally said I'm not going to try. haha.
5:43 --- What can I say? I never watched "Naruto" XD
My head canon about my character is, she specialises in one job per role ^^° It just... keeps changing ^^°
I'm a SAM/RPR main for melee. Though, now I can't wait for the Ranged to see the Bard :D
Glad I found this.
You now have my attention.
Happy to have you!
My combat classes are all generally because I enjoy the combat style with them, head canonically my WoL is a CUL main.
I’m a Ninja main, but I have my character flavored more as still being a Rogue in service to the Maelstrom. My FC and I generally repackage my Ninjutsu abilities as aspected grenades or other gadgets instead.
Monk (Pugilist) main since Beta..
Its been a LONG road with a lot of people dissing monk for no RAtt, Once your stacks are up you have to get them back etc etc.
I remember in storm blood when I had to correct a person who said Fire Tackle was best... When 2 wind tackles could give you another GL they didn't even know that. That Riddle of Fire didn't affect your Auto Attack speed and other things that folks really weren't aware of.
Personally the only thing I miss about Monk is my aura of greased lightning, I had it since I turned monk and it was taken from me man.
My WoL is a summoner so I don't know what it says about my WoL if I'm a summoner.
I'm a pseudo-Reaper main. My WoL understands the contract as "I'll hold off from eating you as long as you're useful for me." Right now, she interprets it as a mutual agreement, but she's not exactly the brightest about things like this.
Hearing the dragoon stuff was funny considering I let my GM kill my WoL off in our DnD game (pregame) I felt slightly called out even though it was intentional! haha
The amount of times that during dungeons the tank died and I (the dragoon) had all the enmity and I cleared that pull would make estinien proud
We really need more Job Quests, these role quests are so generic they're an affront.
Must confess, all Samurai says about me is how much I worship the idea and design of the katana.😍
As a DRG main, this hurts.
C'mon Scribe, Enlightenment is *kind of* a ranged move...❤
8:40 My friend (SAM) always deals less damage than me (RPR) because he's always 4th on the enmity list. Don't ask how, and I know it's not his gear. Samurai just is that outclassed by Reaper because we can pop true north only when we need to do a burst attack.
The Dragoon part was silly. Perhaps the game design shifts to, I don't know, for this not to be a thing?
"Humm... Monkeh" - me deciding which melee job to level to 90 first
I'm a tank main (paladin because I obviously chose the right city for the start. No, I didn't, I didn't want to start in Ul'dah) who just finished Endwalker/post-Endwalker MSQ and couldn't level a second job so far. But I'm interested in Reaper. So let's see how this holds up for me. FOR THE MEMES!
Stealing Monk's job aside, I think it's great Warrior is getting fist attacks as off-global cooldowns. I always thought that when you have an absolutely massive weapon that's slow to swing, throwing a quick punch or kick to keep your opponent off-balance between strikes makes sense. Which is also why I morn the loss of Dark Knight's ability to slap an opponent with a magically-charged backhand when their sword is still on the backswing. Instead their sword seems to weigh nothing now, as all their OGCDs involve swinging it FASTER.
As for the actual topic of this video, well you've given me cause to think about my favorite Melee classes. Do they line up with my WoL's goals? Should be a good thought exercise.
My F/AuRa has Samurai and Reaper, though instead of a voidsent she utilizes a wind-aspected familiar.
Excuse you! I'm just expanding Botanist by indulging in it's KILL MODE
And yet almost ever Monk I meet in game have an ego the size of the Small Magellanic Cloud.
As a sam main what if you dont serve anyone but take the path alone? I agree that they can never be understimated when it comes to loyalty, once they try to backstab, you are gone. He is that true loyal friend who will always stay with you until the very end
ps: I never knew players really want this as tank instead. If you want a tank using katana just pick drk since its the only job who can wield masamune.
Love this; still main Dragoon as my melee DPS.
Samurai's LACK of positionals? Theyre second to dragoon in how impactful they are, if not the most with the loss of Monk's positional basis in 6.0
I've struggled to truly get into and commit to any of the melee classes. They all of something appealing. But they all of something going against it. For me, this reasons are:
Dragoon - the amount of buttons, rotation, and inevitable suicide
Monk - the mechanic doesn't do much for me, and all the confusing combos are a bit much for me.
Samurai - hard to remember the skill names, and haven't wanted to commit to memorizing them, lol
Ninja - similar to samurai, a lot of the names of the skill being japanese makes it hard to remember what's what. But, it's probably my favourite of the melee dps classes though.
Reaper: The Warrior of Light using the power of darkness and death just feels wrong to me, so I honestly haven't even started the class yet. I hear it's fun though!
I mainly play ranged DPS, magic DPS, and healer classes, so maybe just close range combat doesn't do it for me either. Lol.
As a reaper main that reason is why i main the job and cuz love there playstyle
I've gotten really good at the dragoon backflip. Damn shame my healers decided to rescue me through the aoe afterwards.
Ok, THAT has to f*cking sting. I've gotten pretty decent with the jump and I'd have a damn aneurism if my successful dodge got ruined
@@draochvar9646 to be fair, the two times it happened, they thought I wasn't going to jump out of the way since most don't. They apologized since they saw the backflip but it was too late
Brave of you to assume that some of us reaper mains don't already strip
So my main classes are MNK, WAR, SUM, DNC, and SGE. I also really enjoy BLU but since it can't go into group content very well I can't really call it a main. I'm going to jot down the traits that come with each job and see how the shape my personal WoL. Right now he's gone over MNK and WAR, so I have a weird survivalist that has devoted himself to Rhalgar. I'm curious how the other jobs will clash or support the personality.
Hell nawl he said STILL GET OUT DPS by a Reaper hell nawl.😂😂
Former sam main. I’ve been liking monk a lot more now. Maybe I’ll find my love for sam again in 7.0
I started as main MNK, but changed to DNC on ShB. I use EW DNC weapon Terpshicore as glam for my character, bc resemble MNK weapons
... God I love the lore behind dragoons. God I want Blood of the Dragon back.
God I hate it when Squeenix tries to fix what ain't broke.
No, no, I did not know that was coming, I had rather forgotten Naruto existed actually.
Hm... I think SAM does fit my WoL relatively well, as does DRG(Once it's fun again >_>). RDM not so much, I still want SMN back. Sage and GNB, we'll see, I haven't watched those videos yet.
You laugh at me, but that floor would've wiped the raid 5 times by now.
Jk I main RPR for melee nowadays, good thing that doesn't have an elusive jump
In all honesty? I just picked up reaper bc scythes look cool as hell and I think should be more common as weapons in video games.
Maybe in a few expansions I can say it's for the lore but in all honestly my hc is my WoL just saw "Ooh cool weapon" and went with what was needed to use it.
Wanna insult a Reaper?
Pizza Cutters, one and all.
All Edge, No Point.
oh be assured, the end of the scythe is very pointy
0:52 I don’t recognize this cutscene
Is this from the job quest that you can get post Shadowbringers?
It's part of the Monk Jobs Quest yeah.
only melees ive leveled up are dragoon and monk. Monk is definitely favored of the two