Ferrari GTC4 Lusso V12 - Time To Buy My Next Daily Driver!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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The Ferrari GTC4 Lusso has always been on my radar as one of the ultimate daily driver 'practical' sport cars. Given the foundation - a naturally aspirated 6.3L 680hp V12 with a 7 speed twin clutch gearbox - it's basically a 4 seater Ferrari 812 Superfast! And if that isn't a perfect recipe I don't know what is! With a top speed of over 200mph, 4 wheel drive and rear wheel steering for greater stability and agility - the Ferrari GTC 4 Lusso V12 ticks so many of the boxes I am looking for in my next daily driver - practical but exciting!
This is part one of a multi-part series driving all the cars I'm considering living with and using as a daily driver. Porsche, Ferrari, Bentley, Aston Martin and Audi will all feature - any suggestions please let me know in the comments below...
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Hey James, can you please do a Garage Tour, I think there would be lot‘s of interest in what cars you own at the moment!
Right!!!👍🏻👍🏻
Range rover, macan turbo s, f12tdf and gt3 gen2
@@bastiaans5498 we know it but he should do the classic RUclips style the JWW way
Didn’t even know about the Range Rover
Mr JWW talks about buyinf a GTC 4 Lusso. Shmee150 is talking about "it may be time to start thinking about" selling his... hmmm
Shmee aint selling and JWW aint buying. They are just chilling for Omaze. Case solved.
Shmee is not stelling. Hé love the 4lusso. I love It!!!
Marketing hype
The penny droppeth!
Now he’s selling it
James: i need to sell my tdf for some cash-flow for big projects
Also James: I might buy a heavily depreciating Ferrari v12 shooting brake
Buy them right - the depreciation is already done 🤓
The TDFs are selling for like 800´000€s, a higher mileage GTC4 is like 150´000€. So less than a quarter. So there’s your cashflow 😳😍 And it comes with like three more years of warranty and service. Also...James might have to buy some Ferraris for...reasons, guess we’ll know soon 😁✌🏼
@@bastieschenbach9814 oooh, "for reasons" I didn't think of that. Now that makes total sense. But for what 🤔🤔🤔
@@MrJWW I think you may be mistaken ... there's a hell of a recession coming ....
Exactly
Few things, Ferrari no longer make either Lusso, so there's no option to buy a new one, as for having one for the kids, I've had my kids in both an FF and a Lusso (T) - I'll come on to that - and there are few spec items that are important to consider. 1. don't get passenger display, they will ride in the front, they will annoy the shit out of you playing with it. 2. don't get one with the upgraded sound, it take up a bunch of the boot which you're going to need for other kid-related stuf. 3. the cupholder covers are easily broken by a child in 10 seconds, give up on them. 4. the seat fold mechanisim doesn't work properly at all. the seats are constantly folding back on me as I try and get a kid into the car. 5. get dark carpets, carpeted sills and no alcantara. 6. The exhaust valves open right around UK motorway cruising speed, they will get annoying because the car goes from peaceful to wake up wife and children just because you reach a slight incline (see DMS below).
Now to the LussoT, I know it got a bashing when it launched but.... - I've had an FF which I did 20k miles in and a LussoT which has done over 10K and I've done over 1k miles in a V12 Lusso, I've also spent a day at Millbrook in all three and dynamically the best car is the FF (it's also more stable at speed, the Lusso *can* do 208 mph, but it gets so light at over 175mph that you really wouldn't want to) but they sort of gave up after the engine and transmission, so as a thing to live with the lusso's are better. Of the two Lussos the T is the much, much better car, it doesn't sound better granted, but it's noticeably lighter and benefits from springs which are about 10% stiffer as well as more torque, especially low down where the V12 hasn't got going. It's real party trick though is in remembering it has a revvy engine which is basically a detuned Pista engine, it wants to be doing 4000+ rpm not 2000, ideally with the tail out. It therfore lends itself well to tuning, DMS do an amazing tune package for it which takes it to 700Bhp and over 850Nm which is more in evey way than the V12 can do and they adapt the manettino settings to allow the additional power and noise to be controllable. The V12 sounds great, but it's more fast mercedes than fast ferrari and it lacks the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the T.
The T is also rare (probably because of getting a bashing) it's the rarest series Ferrari in the UK in a good 25 years, with only 90 sold. that's only a couple more than there are TDFs.
Dan Sutherland thanks for your insight
Dan Sutherland thanks man for that info 🙏must have took years to type it out tho😆
I cannot tell the difference in boot space between a Lusso with and without hifi. I have it, and I've seen cars without. Same boot.
When you fold your seats forward, just let the kids push it forwad as they step in. When I have passengers there, I have zero issues.
It looks bad without passenger display. The area looks like something's missing
@@AB-80X The Hifi takes out the space inside the wing on the left for the subwoofer. if you fill the car up - which I do if we go on trips it's annoying.
its a £250k car, I expect them to have figured out folding seats.
without the passenger display it does look a bit crap, I think that's a punishment from Ferrari for not having it. But I don't care because it's a silly gimmick for a ludicrous amount of money.
@@AB-80X The seat thing - it works fine on perfectly flat ground, but the slightest slope makes it fold back on it's own, and my kids are small, not quite at the pushing the seat, or stepping in age yet. especially when the motors are pushing back against them.
*whispers*
"we dont talk about that one"
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😂
I honestly didn't even know... and now that I do know, I'm somewhat dissapointed to know about it. :P
What happens if I win a Ferrari gtc4losso
Give Shmee a call👍🏻
Why is Shmee moving his along? 🤔 He has his eyes on another Ferrari?
ғɪʟʟ 1ɴ ᴛ҉ ʜ3 ʙʟᴀɴᴋs he said he is thinking about replacing it, like just having a browse so its good timig
@@nickg4877 Its not his one they are giving away it is another gtc4 but you can spec it how you want apparently
@@rafiulhaque8064 That's wicked!
ғɪʟʟ 1ɴ ᴛ҉ ʜ3 ʙʟᴀɴᴋs it’s done +10000miles...
8:19 How's no one mentioned the spark of light from the wheel. Great video as always Mr. James
My girlfriend has had this thing for over 2 years now and she loves it. Fact that she can pick up our kid and go for a joyride along the pacific coast highway in the same car is priceless to her.
girlfriend. kids. ferrari. alpha male.
What car seat is she using?
Mr (Gearbox Snob) JWW :D I was waiting for the phrase “relationship between engine and gearbox”!
Shmee right now: 🧐😬🙋♂️
HA! I bought a Lusso a few years ago for the exact same reasons. And I absolutely adore it! I have a few other Ferraris, including a Pista, but the Lusso gets used more than anything else I own.
This is the thing, a usable V12 is appealing
Congrats the Pista is my favorite current Ferrari. It's right behind the Laferrari and TDF for Favorite Ferrari's of the last 20 years. The Lusso would be epic as a daily
@@MrJWW hi
When I got the kids I used a Maserati Quattroporte GTS as a daily driver. Loved the Dr. Hyde and Mr. Jackal change of character at the push of a button. Loved it so much I drove it for 12 yrs and 240’000km without problems.
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Would a uk winner get a RHD car from Omaze? They seem to be mainly for the US...
In the terms it says this about winners outside the US as well:
In all other countries the Grand Prize will be shipped (net of all taxes) to the nearest deliverable location, at the Winner's expense. Any applicable import duties, registration costs, or further taxes or duties of any nature due in the destination country will be the responsibility of the Winner.
This is at the top of my list too. I want a supercar, but I also want to be able to take my daughter and wife on trips in the supercar. 4 real seats and N/A V12 is a winning combination.
This is my dream daily 😍 other options i would take is probs a M8 Gran Coupe or Porsche Taycan Turbo S
Fun two car garage: 911 GT3 Manual and GT4Lusso. Sorted. No need to look any further. (Macan for the less fun stuff).
This car provides everything you need in a daily except great fuel economy, which probably isn't anywhere near the top of the priority list. I love it!
You should talk to your buddy Shmee. Word on the street is he will be selling his GTC4Lusso soon; I doubt you could find another one that would be as well maintained as his.
I Love Lusso. I will never buy any other car except this.
Who remembers this one:
Ehhhh Giuseppe what do you say .... Mama Mia (downshift, floor it)
Also,like Shmee said in his vlog regarding the GTC4 Lusso,there aren't other cars,at the moment,doing it better than that,specially with that 6.3 n/a V12 and 4 seats!
As much as I love the TDF this would make sense cause you still will get that v12 enjoyment which is basically most of the fun. 🤙🏻
Just love the GTC4 Lusso it’s the perfect mix of performance with some practicality for that end of the spectrum. Just ask ‘Shmee’ who is currently facing his own dilemma of what he may replace his GTC4 daily driver with. For what it’s worth the Lusso is my favourite car period and I can only hope you choose it!
I used to think of James as the McLaren guy. Now I associate him with Ferrari V12s 😅
Most likely aston martin now 😂
A friend of mine owns one of these and I got to say there aren’t many gt cars, family cars and daily cars that are this great in each category. A true beast under the hood with some nice practicality
A car thats massivly overlooked with huge discounts is the aston martin rapide. They depreciate hard mind too
I remember you test driving the blue Gtc4 Lusso.. of all the cars you mentioned I think the Ferrari has it licked! I do think if you drive the new RS6 again it might tug at your heart strings because you’ve owned them before.. and finally...is the Gemera “really” going to happen??
When these cars came out I disliked it straight away....but now it truly is a car for all people......stunning looking and superbly practical with epic performance,a perfect t daily for the device and the next step up from a RS6
What about a AMG GT 4 Door or a Porsche Panamera??
I guess Shmee would help the search.
Nikhil Kalyan GT73 (well if thats coming), imagine
They can't hold a candle to the Lusso V12. Best daily I got.
These cars are boring, can't stand up against v12
Hey Steve I prefer this enormously good good GT infused with Espresso Martini:
- The world's best Gin and tonic infused with Espresso Martini, served as a Tom Collins. This gives you three drinks in one. First you're going to feel the Gin, then Tom Collins and last Espresso Martini.
5cl. Gin
3cl. Coffee-syrup
2cl. Fresh Lemon-juice
Shake with ice
Serve in a Highballglas
Top with tonic
You can ad 5cl. tonic in the shaker after the drink is shaken if you prefer that and then strain it in a Highballglas. That amount of Tonic is enough and the Tonic blends better if you pour it in the shaker before strain it in a Highballglas.
We took our two sons all over Europe in epic road trips in our 456GTM - they / we have memories from those years that are so special
Great series, we’re in the same situation so we’re really looking forward to it. But we’d appreciate if you show and rate all of the things that really make these ”practical” as family cars: clearance, boot space (do a push chair fit?), isofix, seat positions with a baby seat, etc.!
That GTC4Lusso would be outstanding for a family of three! As one alternative option to consider, while also substantially less money, the Giulia Quadrifoglio is quite an exciting 4 door for around a mere 80k US
Not reliable, don't know how long it will stay in repair shop
Mine’s been running strong for the last 5 years/38k miles 🤷♂️
2:32 Ok I saw that!
What?
Watched a video of this getting destroyed by an m5/m8 in the quarter mile. Was slightly surprised I must say
Can’t beat turbos for the big punch!
@@MrJWW very true
Ya this car is not impressive if you just look 0-60 and 1/4 mule. However at higher speeds and on the twists it is faster then almost anything with 4 seats
@freddie Jones if it was the carwow video you are referring to it was an FF. Arguably very similar, but the Gtc4 may have faired better. 🤷♂️
@@hirsty9159 no it was this one vs M8 and older tuned GTR. It did incredibly well for a car that is class above BMW M8. This is far better "drivers car" than Continental GT or DB11 😉
This is a shooting brakes.. the rear seats are comfortable with low centre console just like the Bentley GT. The worse rear seats are in the AM Rapide, the centre console is too high, looks cramp as though we are in a cocoon hihi.. really really marvellous. For daily usage I don’t need a powerful car, the Bentley Conti GT is good enough as i am able to bring along my grandchildren at the rear. Thanks bro 🤓💪💕
I am sure you will pick up this beauty as a daily driver.... it will be amazing to watch your road trips in this GTC4 Lusso... cheers
What a car, I wish the front looked a bit more aggressive, but it's still beautiful. But needs a brighter color! Black looks dull on a car like this.
Hi. You should try the Audi RS6-R from ABT (740 hp, 920 Nm) ... if possible. ABT has managed to make the design even more aggressive ... the sound of the exhaust is louder. It is one of the coolest family cars. GT4Lusso is much more exotic, but less practical and much more expensive. I think the engine is worth any money ... if you have it. The V12 is unique ... and will remain unique. Used can be a good option, if you care more about the feeling behind the wheel. Because I never wrote on the channel, congratulations ... you are one of the best youtubers. Good luck.
I am on edge to see what you decide, it's the most difficult decision car wise. Trillion horse power (Swedish) is easy, 4 seater that flies down the road not so much. The Lusso is amazing and at circa £170k used its a bargain. All in mind will break down, but I would rather stand beside a broken Ferrari than anything else.
If you buy it do a straight pipe. It would comprimise the practicality a bit, but come on a straight piped ferrari v12. Who could resist
You can pull the valves on these so they sound good all the time even at low speed - doesn’t require a full straight pipe 👍🏻
That V12 sounds fabulous
Never liked the FF, as you said the GTC4L feels like a new model rather than a renamed facelift - very colour and spec sensitive however.
Others -
S63 coupe
Panamera Sport turismo turbo s e-hybrid
or very left field - Alpina B7
Cheers,
Chris
Alpina never a car I’ve tried and some of their new models are quite appealing
The lusso is by far the best daily you could buy, well until the egg arrives.
The Lusso is a better looking car than the old FF. I think a 4 door is more practical for daily driver, particularly if you're carrying a baby seat. It would be hard to put up with trying to get the carrier into the car around the front seat.
Luxury in this case should entail an opening sunroof or rear window (more noise/ air flow), adaptive mofo cruise... (like Subaru did in 2016) and rear windows that open if you are going to put that much into rear seats. Call me spoiled, but after an hour the rear seat is going to be stuffy as hell...
@Mr JWW we need a panamera turbo s sport turismo into the channel. 😆 Best for the family!
I have no doubt this is a credible daily driver contender, but after the TdF bombshell, would have been better starting the search with a different brand
When the GTC4LUSSO came out I hated it and I thought it was useless and overpriced , now I love it, it looks soooooo good ,
Tbh this is probably the the best daily you could ever want
You can sell that car but you need to keep the F12tdf! As I said before, it’s only going up in value. Remember only 799 built.
James bro, if were you I'd you get up in the V12 Lusso once and scratch all the rest. Be it Panamera Turismo, S63 , RS whatever, forget all of those and GO for the Ferrari it is a Winner and a Keeper! :) Nothing currently comes close to it.
You have started with the one to buy if you ask me, a NA Ferrari V12 as a daily; probably the last time ever you can experience a car like that as a daily!
Problem with omaze is they only pick American winners. The winner of the Car Throttle comp for a VW Camper was in Arizona or Virginia I think? And part of the sales pitch was how you could just hop in a drive to German etc ... but tough that in the states
I would really consider something with 4 doors if the ability to put your boy in the back is relevant on a daily basis. Trying to lean into the back to strap him in will quickly get annoying.
That being said I don't know that I would want something with turbos. What's out there with a naturally aspirated engine, 4 doors, good safety scores, drives well, and maybe AWD? I'm not sure. Hopefully some lovely people in the comments section can inform me!
James, I don't know yet which Aston Martin you're planning to consider. My daily driver for this purpose of moving kids from kindergarten to home to football to kid's karate is an 2018 Aston Martin Rapide S, which is superb. Slightly smaller engine, but V12 with an amzing soundtrack (but not as aggressive as my V12 Vantage S or a Vanquish S) and additional doors, which is very helpfull to sit in my 19 months old daughter into her rear facing seat. I can imagine that it is pretty difficult to do this in a GTC4 Lusso.
Think this over. I love my Rapide S. It was build till last year. But you do know that for sure and you have best relationships to Gaydon - so try it!
I’d be interested in giving a Rapide AMR a go!
@@MrJWW Nice...AMR! Definintely worth trying an sets you apart from mainstream Audi RS6, Panamera and so on.
And it's really some cute touch having a child seat in such a driving machine...
I own a Aston Rapide S. It is half the price of the Ferrari, has four doors and sounds better. Buy the Rapide S AmR and buy your Speciale back. Sorted and welcome.
SHMEE150 is Waving. 🤚
Thats a tough choice, because there are so many absolutely great cars in that class.. new e63s(wagon), new m5, maybe rs6 although it understeers.
I would probably also consider the taycan turbo s. Its just something different, fast as hell, a nice daily, clean, beautiful and a practical 4 door.
The gtc of course has that amazing v12 and gearbox, but pretty bad infotainment tech, 2 doors (or does it have 4?) and less trunk space than an e63s wagon for example.
All cars in that class are great.
F90 M5 Competition, for me that's the ultimate daily
Aston Martin DBS Superleggera, not sure about the back seats and functionality of them but have a look.
You should buy Shmee150's as it is a really good spec.
Shmee is selling his V12 GTC-4 Lusso. Very nice spec.
Thoughts? It took 2 hours to change the battery 🔋 in my GTC4 Lusso which is nothing short of ridiculous….also, not uncommon to see complete battery 🔋 depletion within 2 weeks; reference: the Roma. Hilarious to hear people saying: “oh; it’s a great daily driver (try to navigate any park garage) or it’s a great GT car (when you have to take a spare battery 🔋 just in case).
This is not the most practical daily. However it would be super fun in comparison to the other offerings with that V12 when you want to play a little bit.
I was going to have a go at winning the Lusso, until I realised it was LHD and if you won, you have to pay for shipping and taxes to the UK.......
There's something different about james since the lockdown and I like it!
Well that’s a bonus 😃👍🏻
Throw me a frickin bonus here... Dr Evil
as soon as Shmee150 uploaded his video about possibly selling his
James, the search is over. It doesnt get any better than this
Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato Shooting Brake is my dream daily.
I bought one in February. Put a Capristo exhaust on there... there’s nothing like a Ferrari v12. Period.
James what happened to your awesome Range Rover Vogue? It’s a perfect family wagon!!
You need a V12 normally aspirated Ferrari in the garage whatever else James. Can't beat that noise!
Nope. No other options, you got my favourite right on your first try.
Hope Ferrari will bring back 4Lusso back in the future. 🙏
So you tested the back seat...what about the boot? Will it cope with associated kiddy gear? Will it’s fuel tank location mean a need for specialised origami pram? Will the boot lining survive non Ferrari luggage - recall Chris Harris had a mountain bike in the back of a previous incarnation (FF) think it’s somewhere on RUclips? With kid and their non negotiable accessories mean one of the back seats is always folded down - so really a 3 seater? You may have done this off camera...End random thoughts! Oh check out Harry’s Garage channel - believe Harry loaded one up (4 Adults in a FF) and drove to a France (ski trip).
I'm guessing it's coming to GTC4Lusso, Continental GT (W12 hopefully), Rapide, RS6, E63 and such. I think that GTC4Lusso wins hands down, it's Ferrari V12 and since the F12tdf is going I think it's a must
That would be an amazing car for you!
@shmee150 is selling his !
Andrew Kindness he is not
@@andrewkindness6503 Where did he say that?? He only said what could EVENTUALLY replace it...
Silly Andrew
I can't think of ANY better daily driver cars. GTC4L is the best by far. I'm interested in the DBX but you have a macan so it would be too similar.
BUY A LUSSO!!
It wouldn't hold a candle next to the Lusso in terms of raw excitement but Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo?? Top Gear pitted the two together in a nice piece a few seasons ago. Would be interesting to see your comparison. Love the channel. Stay safe 🙌🏽
RS6R off Mr D. Abt 🤔
haha Same thought, RS6R with a pinch of ABT
Ah, That D. Abt who was kicked out by Audi for letting some professional play his eSport race?
@@occ6359 What has that do do with the RS6R?
In these times of Corona Virus with restricted movement and all the other limitations that come with a global pandemic, a vehicle that is quite often overlooked in terms of its all round performance and spacious interior, also it's economical properties as well as its aesthetic appeal is the Traveller's favourite...the good old Ford Transit Van.
The Crew Cab option with its Isofix capabilities and added seating options is often overlooked.
Having the tow bar fitted also give the opportunity to hitch-up the caravan of a Friday evening and hit the local Aldi's to stock up on their selection of reasonably price foreign wines and refreshing beers and lagers, as well as their vast range of competively priced ready made meal dishes before heading off on another weekend adventure with your significant other.
Given that Aldi's also stock a very nice range of ciders for the lady in your life, you my friend have knocked it off, as the policeman said to the shoplifter.
I know your style very different from other car related youtubers but I think we have seen enough FF-GT4 Lusso content on other channels altough GT4 Lusso is an amazing car it has tuned down version of TDF engine , it is very practical and you won't miss the TDF engine noise . I know you can show different aspects of this car with your style but I really hope that you choose a different car.
I understand and I share your opinion - there are other cars to consider and maybe not quite as practical as I am first suggesting 🤓
Didn't you say you loved the green rs4 you drove in Morroco ? Ok it has half the cylindres and is les desirable, but speaking of budget...
RS6 is the only choice tbh. Loved your old one in Merlin purple
Look i know this is a challenging option...but I've wanted and Espada since I first saw one...have you considered a classic...otherwise for a family car i favor the new Bentley Flying Spur....very elegant, comfortable and deceivingly quick....but the Lusso is the pinnacle of 4 seat group. ..spicy.
Something that competes with the koenigsegg Gemera, after all that's the car that will replace whatever you choose... ultimate beast 4seater...
The best characterful family car on the market the closest car is rs6 but that doesnt have v12
BNM LKN e63s estate would be my choice
used mulsanne speed
A Mercedes GT63S seems like the car for you. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like you and that car are kindred spirits.
Such a shame the urus happened and not the estoque. I like the urus but a saloon lambo would have been cooler.
Hands down the perfect daily!
Audi RS7 i think would be a good combination of exciting, practical, safe in all weathers and kind of cheap compared to the other options you mentioned
SilverBack Gorilla low roofline in the back, try putting a kit in a babyseat without hitting his/her head
Matey, I’m literally thinking the same thing. Would love if you mention a few words on child seat fit into your search.
Amazing Video as allways! However perhaps you can also consider a Rolls Royce Wraith BlackBadge?
You did it, you already found it. This is it
😂 many more to try yet!
I hope not too many got torched by the front diffs failing... 30k cost apparently and starting to be more common.
It would be a moment, if after all the smiles per gallon and after all the potential Daily Drivers, suddenly it turns out to be a taycan turbo s and i still would thinking "nice". But really realistic i think will be a Bentley Bentayga, Audi RS6, Porsche Panamera or a Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door.
since you already have a macan and a gt3, then pass on the panamera......for 150k id go for a 2017 RR wraight or ghost for slightly more.... bentley new continental gt may be an option
BMW M5 Comp would make an interesting one, although that said, the GTC4Lusso V12 would be the one I’d go for
M5 Comp is a reoccurring theme in the comments - I will give one a go 👍🏻
Another suggestion is the AMG GT63/GT 4 Door, I personally think that’s got to be up there in terms of ultimate daily drivers.
One of the best interior specs I have seen for a while. Great choice for this type of car, and indeed: that panoramic roof is gigantic! Awesome.