Maestro Orozco-Estrada always does the miracle. He is one of the finest and most elegant conductors in the world. I got in ecstasy when I saw him live with this same orchestra playing the dance suite from "Der Rosenkavalier" by Richard Strauss. But now I can see that he has that same elegant and precise touch with Haydn as well. The light speed, the fiery thing and the perfect execution by the horns in the last movement make an amazingly well-rounded and perfect Haydn. Listening and watching him conducting is always an absolute delight.
I. Satz: 00:28 (Presto) II. Satz: 04:54 (Andante o più tosto Allegretto) III. Satz: 11:15 (Menuetto 11:15 - Trio 12:33 - Menuetto 13:47) IV. Satz: 14:38 (Allegro assai) Applaus: 17:11
This symphony abounds in original turns of phrase and rhythmic quirks (but what Haydn symphony doesn't?), and Maestro Orozco-Estrada looks as if he really enjoyed conducting it. His light, elegant (and dare I say, "fiery"?) touch with the score, and his enthusiasm, add to the enjoyment. The 'trio' of the 'menuetto' is my favorite section of the work - Haydn at his most imaginative. And did I detect a splash of Handel's "Water Music" in the finale - Haydn's way of extinguishing the fire?
The chances of Haydn knowing the Water Music - or anything else by Handel - as early as 1768 when he wrote Symphony 59 are next to zero; it’s a neat speculation though.
@@hjo4104 Haydn started to get to know Handel in the 1780’s through some of the Sunday morning sessions of ‘old’ music put on by Baron van Swieten in Vienna; these were the musical concerts that Mozart also attended (rather more than Haydn who was often away at Eszterhaza) and for whom he did his Handel re-orchestrations for example. The Handel bombshell really hit Haydn in England between 1791 and 1795 where he heard lots of big-scale Handel performances and was pretty much overwhelmed by the impact. Haydn before this may have known a few keyboard works, but it is very unlikely he would have come across any Handel occasional pieces like the Water Music - or Fireworks Music - as the chances of a performance in Vienna were pretty much zero. The Handel ‘Complete Edition’ did not appear until the second half of the 19th century in Germany (Chrysander), though there was an earlier incomplete Arnold edition in England published between 1787 and 1797, but this again is far too early in relation to Haydn’s Symphony 59. Handel was massive in England, almost cult status from the Royal family down to the most ordinary people at the Vauxhall Gardens - and everybody in-between; in contrast, he was barely known in Vienna, and relegated to non-mainstream ‘old’ music sessions (as mentioned above) put on by van Swieten. My point was that Haydn *did* know a lot of music by Handel, but *not* as early as 1768 when Symphony 59 was written, and of course, stylistically, at this point, there is absolutely nothing of Handel in Haydn’s music itself which again is evidence of what I am saying.
Maestro Orozco-Estrada demonstra uma flexibilidade sonora incrível, bem com a HR. Estão tocando com sonoridade original!!! Realmente, não se pode perder esse jovem maestro de vista!!! Surpreendente!! BRAVO!!!
Medical Museum I do not think Haydn is ‘…loaded with witty sense of humour’ as much as is claimed, and it is not that I don’t ‘…get it’. There is too much of this stuff about Haydn being funny repeated ad nauseam ad infinitum, usually without much evidence (and even less thought), though there are some characteristic features I would suggest are better understood in terms of Haydn’s treatment and development of motifs and ideas being described as ‘ingeniously playful’; this rather better explains what is going on. Also, there is some influence of opera buffa evident in Haydn from the mid-1770’s - this is found in much of Mozart too (finale of Haffner symphony) - which is a better diagnosis of the point than ‘humour’ or ‘funny’ et cetera. Some of the playfulness can be witty, but again ‘humour’ which implies laughing and joking, is another over-used word.
@Alcina Interesting thoughts as ever. ‘Witty’ and ‘playful’ are of course two of the most frequently found adjectives used by the late, great HC Robbins Landon with whom I spent a memorable day at the University of Bristol in England in 1982; not sure I would describe Robbie Landon nor his writings as a ‘…very restrained ladies tea-time’ sort of person or writer. As you may have gathered, I struggle with the whole concept of humour in music generally - I find Mozart’s Ein Musikalischer Spass (K522) very UN-funny - my problem entirely, though I do think there are some genuinely comedic moments in Haydn’s operas. Other than the operas, I think the humour aspect - ie trying to make listeners laugh through comicality - is somewhat over-stated in Haydn, and what there is to be found, is little more than that to be found in Beethoven who is rarely tarred by the same brush. Perhaps I just need to lighten up!
@@simatic7253 Piano - pianissimo - pianississimo, et cetera.* It’s the issi’s (= very) that you that you multiply in Italian for very quietly, and very very quietly and so on as seen on musical scores (p pp ppp); it works similarly for forte = loudly. You can have bravo/i/a/e and bravissimo/i/a/e; never seen or heard bbb. * You can occasionally find pppp = pianissississimo, or even ppppp = pianississississimo, but now it’s just getting silly!
I suggest the following categorisation of the 107* symphonies of Joseph Haydn: *Absolutely Essential Listening* 65 symphonies *Essential Listening* 41 symphonies *Required Listening* 1 symphony** So in answer to your question, just one symphony. * Some authorities exclude Hob. I:106 ** Required in the sense that you must listen to this symphony as a requirement in order to claim truthfully that you have heard the complete symphonies of Haydn.
Maestro Orozco-Estrada always does the miracle. He is one of the finest and most elegant conductors in the world. I got in ecstasy when I saw him live with this same orchestra playing the dance suite from "Der Rosenkavalier" by Richard Strauss. But now I can see that he has that same elegant and precise touch with Haydn as well. The light speed, the fiery thing and the perfect execution by the horns in the last movement make an amazingly well-rounded and perfect Haydn. Listening and watching him conducting is always an absolute delight.
He always looks like he's having a good time.
my favourite conductor by far
Those DAMNED Horns!!!!!! Love it!!!!!
The Horns section is Superb!!! Great!!!
yea
Überraschend der Triller im letzten Satz!
I. Satz: 00:28 (Presto)
II. Satz: 04:54 (Andante o più tosto Allegretto)
III. Satz: 11:15 (Menuetto 11:15 - Trio 12:33 - Menuetto 13:47)
IV. Satz: 14:38 (Allegro assai)
Applaus: 17:11
Enjoying much the Maestro's and the Orchestra's Haydn performance.
This symphony abounds in original turns of phrase and rhythmic quirks (but what Haydn symphony doesn't?), and Maestro Orozco-Estrada looks as if he really enjoyed conducting it. His light, elegant (and dare I say, "fiery"?) touch with the score, and his enthusiasm, add to the enjoyment. The 'trio' of the 'menuetto' is my favorite section of the work - Haydn at his most imaginative. And did I detect a splash of Handel's "Water Music" in the finale - Haydn's way of extinguishing the fire?
The chances of Haydn knowing the Water Music - or anything else by Handel - as early as 1768 when he wrote Symphony 59 are next to zero; it’s a neat speculation though.
@@elaineblackhurst1509 how?
@@hjo4104
Haydn started to get to know Handel in the 1780’s through some of the Sunday morning sessions of ‘old’ music put on by Baron van Swieten in Vienna; these were the musical concerts that Mozart also attended (rather more than Haydn who was often away at Eszterhaza) and for whom he did his Handel re-orchestrations for example.
The Handel bombshell really hit Haydn in England between 1791 and 1795 where he heard lots of big-scale Handel performances and was pretty much overwhelmed by the impact.
Haydn before this may have known a few keyboard works, but it is very unlikely he would have come across any Handel occasional pieces like the Water Music - or Fireworks Music - as the chances of a performance in Vienna were pretty much zero.
The Handel ‘Complete Edition’ did not appear until the second half of the 19th century in Germany (Chrysander), though there was an earlier incomplete Arnold edition in England published between 1787 and 1797, but this again is far too early in relation to Haydn’s Symphony 59.
Handel was massive in England, almost cult status from the Royal family down to the most ordinary people at the Vauxhall Gardens - and everybody in-between; in contrast, he was barely known in Vienna, and relegated to non-mainstream ‘old’ music sessions (as mentioned above) put on by van Swieten.
My point was that Haydn *did* know a lot of music by Handel, but *not* as early as 1768 when Symphony 59 was written, and of course, stylistically, at this point, there is absolutely nothing of Handel in Haydn’s music itself which again is evidence of what I am saying.
Maestro Orozco-Estrada demonstra uma flexibilidade sonora incrível, bem com a HR. Estão tocando com sonoridade original!!! Realmente, não se pode perder esse jovem maestro de vista!!! Surpreendente!! BRAVO!!!
It is a great assamble and lovely musik.Thanks to you.
Sehr gut synchronisierte und gut artikulierte Leistung dieses kompakten und zugleich gut konstruierten Meisterwerks. Vielen Dank wie immer!
Just wonderful. BRAVO. BRAVO. BRAVO
Este director es una maravilla
Now the sound quality is much better.
Bravo Seidenberg ...
❤❤❤
I proclaim Haydn the classic funny guy.
why is this funny?
His music is loaded with witty sense of humor, if you get it.
Medical Museum
I do not think Haydn is ‘…loaded with witty sense of humour’ as much as is claimed, and it is not that I don’t ‘…get it’.
There is too much of this stuff about Haydn being funny repeated ad nauseam ad infinitum, usually without much evidence (and even less thought), though there are some characteristic features I would suggest are better understood in terms of Haydn’s treatment and development of motifs and ideas being described as ‘ingeniously playful’; this rather better explains what is going on.
Also, there is some influence of opera buffa evident in Haydn from the mid-1770’s - this is found in much of Mozart too (finale of Haffner symphony) - which is a better diagnosis of the point than ‘humour’ or ‘funny’ et cetera.
Some of the playfulness can be witty, but again ‘humour’ which implies laughing and joking, is another over-used word.
@Alcina
Interesting thoughts as ever.
‘Witty’ and ‘playful’ are of course two of the most frequently found adjectives used by the late, great HC Robbins Landon with whom I spent a memorable day at the University of Bristol in England in 1982; not sure I would describe Robbie Landon nor his writings as a ‘…very restrained ladies tea-time’ sort of person or writer.
As you may have gathered, I struggle with the whole concept of humour in music generally - I find Mozart’s Ein Musikalischer Spass (K522) very UN-funny - my problem entirely, though I do think there are some genuinely comedic moments in Haydn’s operas.
Other than the operas, I think the humour aspect - ie trying to make listeners laugh through comicality - is somewhat over-stated in Haydn, and what there is to be found, is little more than that to be found in Beethoven who is rarely tarred by the same brush.
Perhaps I just need to lighten up!
Funny ? no ! I discover very often in Haydn's wonderful music his "joy de vivre". I admire always your comments on Joseph Haydn.
Bravissimi
Bravissimimimi
@@simatic7253
Piano - pianissimo - pianississimo, et cetera.*
It’s the issi’s (= very) that you that you multiply in Italian for very quietly, and very very quietly and so on as seen on musical scores (p pp ppp); it works similarly for forte = loudly.
You can have bravo/i/a/e and bravissimo/i/a/e; never seen or heard bbb.
* You can occasionally find pppp = pianissississimo, or even ppppp = pianississississimo, but now it’s just getting silly!
Gibt’s eine Sinfonie Haydns das NICHT fabelhaft ist?
I suggest the following categorisation of the 107* symphonies of Joseph Haydn:
*Absolutely Essential Listening*
65 symphonies
*Essential Listening*
41 symphonies
*Required Listening*
1 symphony**
So in answer to your question, just one symphony.
* Some authorities exclude Hob. I:106
** Required in the sense that you must listen to this symphony as a requirement in order to claim truthfully that you have heard the complete symphonies of Haydn.
Superb effort by horns. On the natural instrument, not "Securicor".
hallo, ist das barock?
danke
Haydn (+Mozart) = Classical (c.1750-1800).
Wiener Klassik
Good orchestra, ugly conducting :(
The conducting is elegant, poetic and takes the orchestra to unknown Heights.
AGREE...IF I WAS A ORCHESTRA MEMBER I COULDNT FOLLOW HIM AT ALL....
That's why you aren't an orchestra member.
GIVES ME HOPE THEN,,,,IF HE CAN CONDUCT SO CAN I,,,,ALWAYS WANTED TO....I CAN SHOW HIM HOW ITS DONE.....@@richardnewnham1417
@@andywalmartdejá de hablar pelotudeces… seguro no sabes tocar ningún instrumento, andá a audicionar a ver si quedas
embarrassing conducting
😂
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