The Best DPS Class in The War Within Beta....So Far

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
  • The War Within Beta: BEST Performing DPS Class after Raid Testing is over!
    All 3 Warlock Specs have gone through some reworking in the Beta and for now, the results are looking pretty good!
    00:00 What the Beta is for
    01:48 Affliction
    07:56 Destruction
    15:19 Demonology
    19:59 See you tomorrow!
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  • @SoiYa
    @SoiYa 15 дней назад +4

    I’m so happy you do these. I do a lot of beta testing on classes I know but impossible for me to test all classes and a great gauge for when things go live

  • @assassin415
    @assassin415 15 дней назад +45

    every beta pass for the past decade warlocks dominate and then last second get nerfed to absolute dogshit for the first live patch

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +28

      C'mon don't stoop as low as the Mages' propaganda machine of constantly pretending they're weak
      Warlock was indeed quite shit for DF release, however!
      Affliction was top3 dps in Nathria and best Ranged DPS in Uldir in BFA

    • @Lanyanyfy
      @Lanyanyfy 15 дней назад +4

      @@Izenhart Affliction should be in top3 dps in raid in every expansion :)

    • @joshcal7370
      @joshcal7370 15 дней назад +3

      As a warlock main since Vanilla, this comment stings. It’s like they won’t let go of how broken we were at the start.

    • @eiksman
      @eiksman 15 дней назад

      Wrong

    • @paddleed6176
      @paddleed6176 14 дней назад +3

      Has there been even one patch in WOW's history where you didn't have at least one of the lock specs being at the top?

  • @danielsallai1480
    @danielsallai1480 15 дней назад

    Hey! Great video! With the luxthos WA how did you change the CD timers fonts? :)

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +1

      I just picked the first WA I found for the Spec, so if it wasn't that then it's OmniCC

  • @GURKS35
    @GURKS35 15 дней назад

    Yoo what setting or weak aura using to get the big cooldown numbers

  • @fanissafarikas2711
    @fanissafarikas2711 15 дней назад +3

    I recently tried to learn affliction wk I have tried the other 2 wk specs but damn affliction feels so much better for me I hope they will be good also for M+

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +1

      It's the luxury of being a pure DPS Class! You always have the option to choose 1 of the best 3 available

  • @richardanthony7855
    @richardanthony7855 15 дней назад

    Can anyone send a link to these logs? Wanna see the others

  • @snivels
    @snivels 14 дней назад

    Those squeaky door noises scared me half to death, I live alone 😂

  • @NotItsMeDark
    @NotItsMeDark 14 дней назад

    destro warlock 7+ years here; yay! :)

  • @Shawn-bo7sm
    @Shawn-bo7sm 15 дней назад

    those WoD target dummies got that thicc dmg

  • @VizerPS
    @VizerPS 15 дней назад +25

    "here's what's good on the beta so far"
    "but it's just the beta, and it's only so far"
    "yeah"

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +11

      Tell me your angle on this
      Is your plan to have 0 players talk about what's happening in the Beta because "it can/will change" ?
      Are we just gonna tune out until the expansion is released then?

    • @VizerPS
      @VizerPS 15 дней назад +9

      @@Izenhart i'm joking-the first quote is this video. the second one is the usual goofy reply that these conversations aren't useful (they are useful). the third one is "no shit sherlock, i said they're just early impressions from the beginning"
      but my joke was perhaps too dadlike due to father's day

    • @Aquwert
      @Aquwert 15 дней назад +3

      @@VizerPS Don't worry I understood the joke it was funny, we can still laugh and appreciate the content!

  • @rick5787
    @rick5787 15 дней назад +2

    Izen gets everything nerfed. So... youre time is up Locks. Hope you enjoyed the 1st week of Beta!

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +2

      Don't worry, Warlocks are master gaslighters, they'll get nerfed, forgotten for 2 and a half months and then mysteriously buffed during Heroic week

  • @sureberferber9101
    @sureberferber9101 15 дней назад +5

    So... Burning Crusade DPS tiers all over again. Got it.

    • @Frawt
      @Frawt 15 дней назад

      It's the beta. All expansion betas have been like this.
      So...yeah.

    • @blackyvertigo
      @blackyvertigo 15 дней назад

      @@Frawt to be fair with the exception of original vanilla, warlocks have had a decent spec in every expansion.

    • @paddleed6176
      @paddleed6176 14 дней назад

      @@blackyvertigo More than decent, always one to two specs top performing.

  • @DougFM
    @DougFM 10 дней назад

    Yay, warlocks rule!! I miss playing affliction, hope that's the best one but I'll play any of the three.

  • @Youtubestolemyname99999
    @Youtubestolemyname99999 7 дней назад

    I mean by back the youtube algo is on your side now keep pumping i guess :D

  • @10Pugz
    @10Pugz 15 дней назад

    That with the shadowbolt doing so much dmg could be the Tier- set 50% more shadowbolt dmg XD
    Warlock Demonology 11.0 Class Set 2pc - Your primary demon deals 5% increased damage, and your Shadow Bolt damage is increased by 50%.

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +1

      It's also because of the new Rune of Shadows: Reduces the cast time of Shadow Bolt by 25% and increases its damage by 40%

  • @anthonytgameaddict
    @anthonytgameaddict 15 дней назад +11

    We all know what blizzard does to people that fly to close to the top of the dps meter. Besides mage.

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +4

      I don't know, we know Blizzard has been a proud parent of their golden child, Mage, for years but I think Warlock might as well be an illegitimate child they still take care of...

    • @atomosk9937
      @atomosk9937 15 дней назад

      Let us have our moment in the sun! 😁😁

    • @Frawt
      @Frawt 15 дней назад

      Never forget Blizzard giving Destruction warlock a 5% aura buff the first week of season 3 of Shadowlands.
      But true, they have, at least, been a bit more vigilant about warlocks this expansion though, at least.

    • @AlexSantos-gb9gy
      @AlexSantos-gb9gy 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhart is this what grand delusions look like? lol

  • @Classiccolin
    @Classiccolin 4 дня назад

    IMO remove malefic rapture and put the damage back into the dots. Also 3 dots will do just increase their damage rather than giving locks 5 dots to manage. Make shadowbolts actually fucking pump so when you get an instant proc it’s feels good rather than just insignificant damage. Also bring back fel lance instant cast to allow you to refresh the duration of UA and give some instant cast damage on the move.

  • @jinsonyun1058
    @jinsonyun1058 15 дней назад

    Mhh for now I roll the dices for voidwaver priest

  • @Blasthole
    @Blasthole 14 дней назад

    Doom is insane as well. You can use it to insta kill critters and summon doom guards. I'm mostly doing solo content and amount of doom guards I have following me is comical

  • @10Pugz
    @10Pugz 15 дней назад

    love it in the First 1 min it was almost the same sentence repeading over and over

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад

      It is a necessary disclaimer to prevent people getting triggered as to why their particular Spec isn't being mentioned

  • @enzoshink7597
    @enzoshink7597 15 дней назад +6

    I miss the time when melees were in the game.

  • @Manylimes
    @Manylimes 15 дней назад +3

    I want to affliction to have their time in the light! I’m personally rerolling spriest. Looking forward to TWW!

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +4

      Cue Affliction no longer being a scuffed SPriest after 3 expansions and becoming Meta just because you rerolled. It was your fault!

    • @Manylimes
      @Manylimes 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhart needed a break from the DH, my boomer wrists can’t take it anymore 😂

  • @lllongreen
    @lllongreen 6 дней назад +1

    They where nerfed by A LOT Yesterday 😢 back to hitting like soggy Asian noodle mix

  • @A_B90_
    @A_B90_ 15 дней назад

    I hope they adjust Soul harvester to make it more AOE viable for locks, the recent nerf to its damage has basically just made it redundant against Hellcaller.
    Nerfs are definitely coming, just hope they don't over do it

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад

      I guess since Hellcaller feels tailor made for Affli and Diabolist for Demo, SH is kind of in the middle of both
      But yeah too much shadowbolt/nightfall synergy which doesn't do too much in aoe

  • @thunderleg6605
    @thunderleg6605 15 дней назад +1

    I get tricked every time by warlock in the run-up to an expansion. Not gonna do it this time.

  • @ChristopherNichols-fv5zc
    @ChristopherNichols-fv5zc 15 дней назад +2

    I noticed the name halfway through the video "Womanlet" HAHA.

  • @dotftw1
    @dotftw1 3 дня назад

    Demo has never been a bursty spec except DF season 2.

  • @ralos329
    @ralos329 15 дней назад

    wtf are these numbers man? 63 million? Is that a lot? I can’t even tell anymore.

    • @grantx6
      @grantx6 14 дней назад

      He's trying to give people informative info while showing DMG numbers on a decade old training dummy... Not like there's any training dummies in valdrakken🙄🙄🙄 (there is)

  • @Uncle-Ruckus.
    @Uncle-Ruckus. 15 дней назад +2

    blizzard golden child mages and warlocks.

    • @Flyt824
      @Flyt824 11 дней назад

      Warlocks are farrrrrr from golden child lol. 😂 good try tho. And as a high rated pvp warlock..... we are blizzards melee punching bag tester. But good try.

    • @Uncle-Ruckus.
      @Uncle-Ruckus. 11 дней назад

      @@Flyt824 idc about pvp, im talking about pve, in wich they are.

  • @cc66bb44
    @cc66bb44 15 дней назад

    bleh
    how are frost dks and surv hunters?

    • @MasteryGuns
      @MasteryGuns 12 дней назад

      Frost sucks sadly :( rip my main and surv hunters are busted

  • @MrBlazer688
    @MrBlazer688 15 дней назад

    I dont care if they nerf them last second, playstyle looks so fun right now for Demo and Destro

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +1

      What giving Destro a new button to press after 20 years does to a mf

    • @MrBlazer688
      @MrBlazer688 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhart Ain't that the truth brother, I just hope that if they do decide to nerf, it will be a number game and not playstyle flow

  • @jonathanmatthews8862
    @jonathanmatthews8862 15 дней назад

    Shadowbolt hitting almost as hard as a Chaos Bolt is kind of dumb.
    Affliction has multiple issues with how they designed Hellcaller including, for some unknown reason, they made Wither the same base damage across Destro and Aff. That means it is based on Immolate’s base damage rather than Corruption’s base damage which is already much higher in damage than it should be. Then it gets amplified by their mastery.
    Currently Hellcaller Warlock is still bugged for Overfiend. For whatever reason they get free procs of Overfiend if they are Hellcaller Destro. Those free procs don’t take away from the stacks you already have so Hellcaller Destro procs Overfiend twice as much as they should. Blizzard knows about this and it will be fixed.
    Wither doesn’t actually deal a lot of damage by itself. Other than multidotting which is problematic for Aff, Wither isn’t that strong compared to the better Hero Talents.

  • @KanWest-mv6dr
    @KanWest-mv6dr 15 дней назад

    what in gods name are those numbers. Are we going to actually have those numbers?!

    • @grantx6
      @grantx6 14 дней назад

      He's attacking a 10 year old training dummy for some reason.... The scaling is screwed up

  • @Sly_404
    @Sly_404 15 дней назад +2

    I have a suspicion, my beloved rogue will not show up in this vid! 😭

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +1

      You would be correct!
      Actually your Rogue will come up in tomorrow's video!
      Although on which terms I wouldn't be so happy...

    • @Sly_404
      @Sly_404 15 дней назад

      @@IzenhartYeah that’s what I expect :/

  • @user-kb8kj4ro4x
    @user-kb8kj4ro4x 15 дней назад +3

    what a surprise - looks like shaman dps is garbo once again xd

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад

      Elemental - Yes (totally being reworked soon *copium*)
      Enhancement - top half of the results so far, not great, not terrible

    • @user-kb8kj4ro4x
      @user-kb8kj4ro4x 15 дней назад +1

      @@Izenhart we all know shaman dps will be dead in m+, in raids enh will have 1 spot for windfury regardless of its dps prolly. ele is hands down the worst ranged dps spec now not only from numbers and gameloop wise. hopium!

    • @soraite9775
      @soraite9775 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhart Before Elemental gets a rework there will be at least another 5 reworks for shadow, 7 for retri and 23816268 buffs for mages...

    • @Aquwert
      @Aquwert 15 дней назад

      @@user-kb8kj4ro4x unfortunate because it's my favourite spec. If they had more survivability I'd still be playing them. Unfortunately the fact their damage is non-existent gives me a great excuse to play another class

  • @cocs88715
    @cocs88715 7 дней назад

    Oh wow those double-digit million numbers are so MoP🤣🤣

  • @TheDaergal
    @TheDaergal 14 дней назад

    As a warlock main i am excited for affli, demo reworks/changes but also please nerf them so they will not be played by everyone on tww release

  • @megustaq8
    @megustaq8 15 дней назад

    Not warlocks not mages i think its hunters after the rework

  • @Frequently1
    @Frequently1 15 дней назад

    Lock can be good as blizzard wants (it’s one of their love childs) but for the sake of everyone’s good time do not make demo the best spec.
    I legit have more respect for tanks in pvp than a spec based around standing in one spot, do nothing, and letting NPCs carry you offensively

  • @BoundlessBoredom
    @BoundlessBoredom 15 дней назад +1

    Thank goodness Izen is here to let me know what I think

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +4

      Can you tell Blizzard what I think about Shamans as well?
      So you get banned instead of me? lmao

  • @nonye0
    @nonye0 15 дней назад

    u see that overfiend? u see that damage? if the nerfs did not come i delete wow pronto.

  • @JT-mt6ku
    @JT-mt6ku 15 дней назад +3

    Its hilarious that after all of the stat crunches we're still casually critting for 50+ million damage per hit

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +2

      That's a WoD target dummy, numbers are much higher!
      Although we can expect S1 to have players around 6-7 million HP, tanks at 10+, and player critting in the millions still

    • @ntn8265
      @ntn8265 15 дней назад

      These are ashran dummies bro

    • @DeadgeUGHN
      @DeadgeUGHN 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhart haha jokes on you my fury crits 500k . Please send help

  • @waxoncrypto9524
    @waxoncrypto9524 15 дней назад

    Wrong MM Hunter is the best, literally multi shot rapid shot 2mm dps, 1.5mm sustained on 4 targets it’s wild

  • @Revolver55334
    @Revolver55334 15 дней назад +5

    There will be a ton of balance tuning and warlock will return to the mediocrity it saw throughout most of Dragonflight.

    • @dariominiello9934
      @dariominiello9934 15 дней назад +1

      Mediocrity? Lock has been bis in full aoe with destro and in st with demo all exp lol, in fact lock has had at least 1 top performing spec at least every exp and the utility/survivability is crazy, you'll never have a problem getting in pugs...

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +2

      I see you like starting the day looking on the bright side of things!

    • @krayt5875
      @krayt5875 15 дней назад

      @@dariominiello9934 Since they gutted the Demo ST build at the start of S3 there wasn't a single fight where Warlock was a top performer in ST situations.

    • @Revolver55334
      @Revolver55334 15 дней назад +1

      @@dariominiello9934I think you’re still living in Shadowlands. Aside from season 2, warlock has been mediocre in mythic raid. Check the data on Warcraft logs. This doesn’t mean they’ve been bad. Mediocre means middle.

    • @dariominiello9934
      @dariominiello9934 15 дней назад

      @@krayt5875 i checked and it's true, looks like they got rekt in last patch lol, still destro is bis in aoe though it doest fit the "god comp" rn, but you see locks in almost all bosses top 100 in mythic raids, as almost every fight is cleave, a lot of bosses also have locks in top 10 or even r1. Let's be real, with that much, portal, healthstone, the crazy defensives, you cannot go wrong with lock in any expansion. Locks are mandatory.

  • @jeromekudrako6743
    @jeromekudrako6743 14 дней назад

    Listen, they better not nerf this damn thing, for PVP i can understand to a point but for gods sake im tired of getting tuned into being too weak at the start and by end game it ends up being "average" in 2 specs and 1 spec finallys hits "okay yeah its good", for gods sake can we be the busted for most the expansion class this time? xD

    • @grantx6
      @grantx6 14 дней назад

      The fact any of these hero talents are going to be in pvp is MIND BLOWING to me. won't be fun anymore having to track someone's CD from their gravespire robotlord spec tree. Way too overcomplicated, balancing will be impossible for them

    • @jeromekudrako6743
      @jeromekudrako6743 14 дней назад

      @grantx6 yeah but when pvp gets crazy in a wierd way that's also when it's the most fun and memorable times, as long as it just isn't one spec/class dominating everybody

  • @deadmesiah
    @deadmesiah 15 дней назад

    maybe not attack a legacy test dummy to showcase dps also dmg right not means nothing as tuning has not been tuned yet so numbers right now are irrelevant do not make decisions based off of numbers right test the playstyle of the spec. 1 more thing you had the st build doing aoe for destro

  • @salihkizildag
    @salihkizildag 10 дней назад +1

    raid testing means nothing, the game is mostly about m+

  • @endofexistence2149
    @endofexistence2149 15 дней назад

    Until they get rid of rapture for affliction i will not play warlock. Its a terrible ability and fights with the spec do much that they keep adding instant cast procs to it as a bandaid fix.

  • @aces8481
    @aces8481 15 дней назад

    no the best spec is WW monk

  • @arnelrivera3715
    @arnelrivera3715 15 дней назад

    Eveyone needs to stop worrying about numbers and worry about how the spec/hero talents plays. Currently rogue,warrior, and maybe dh Imo feels kinda bad to play. Their hero talents dont feel impactdul. All other specs feel pretty good. If you are playing beta voice your opinion on the forums with CONSTRUCTIVE feedback tell them why it feels bad and how to fix it. Its crazy that everyone is just ZOMG THIS SPEC IS OP. Do you ever wonder why? Those who voice their feedback in the correct way get heard.

    • @richiepipes8960
      @richiepipes8960 13 дней назад

      Its been weeks of an entire hero tree being BROKEN and blizzard hasnt done shit. Why fight it, i think im finally dropping rogue this expac

  • @kulodrak3650
    @kulodrak3650 14 дней назад

    warlock was nerfed 100% allways blizzard do

  • @cocacoola7166
    @cocacoola7166 15 дней назад

    Oh its warlock ? 385th patch in a row ? Who would have thought.

  • @jojoheadshrinker24
    @jojoheadshrinker24 15 дней назад +1

    Remember that one time warlock was bad? I don’t. Look at all these warlock cry babies in your comments LOL

  • @ReconGW2
    @ReconGW2 15 дней назад

    Nah, huge nerf incoming, survivability to dmg ratio insanely unbalanced.

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +2

      Funny how this is from the perspective of already tanky Specs who are still having problems
      Imagine finding M+ too bursty when playing Mage, Warlock, Spriest, Aug or Ret
      wtf are Shamans, non-Aug evokers, healing priests, balance druids even supposed to do

    • @ReconGW2
      @ReconGW2 15 дней назад

      @Izenhart agreed, I thought the whole point was to create create more aoe dmg. Like they could make a splash dot dmg that stacks off bolts. Otherwise we are going to see two worlds in war within wrecked pvp and pve

    • @waxoncrypto9524
      @waxoncrypto9524 15 дней назад

      Dude mage is only good on retail right now with elite Aug and spriest players, go pug some 12-15s and fire come back to us all before you act like mage is some good class, you will do 400k overall if your lucky, spriest for example will do 650k, ret will do 650k, Sin rogue will do 650k, fire mage is fucking trash right now

    • @sinnis4993
      @sinnis4993 14 дней назад

      @@waxoncrypto9524nobody cares about low keys. Fire mage and spriest are breaking the game since s2 dragonflight. And it needs to get fixed. Fire mage is currently the most broken spec on beta. Only unholy dks and ww monks keep up with it.

  • @Caffrof091
    @Caffrof091 12 дней назад

    holy shit and warrior cant even get decent aoe?

  • @xheapshot3325
    @xheapshot3325 14 дней назад

    Im pretty sure Warlock is also considered the least mobile dps in the game atm. If they get 0 mechanics and able to stand in 1 spot, hopefully they manage to do good dmg.

  • @Nevwermore
    @Nevwermore 14 дней назад

    After years its starting to be a little cringy from blizzard side its always warlock or mage.

  • @Urteilsdrache
    @Urteilsdrache 15 дней назад

    do it on proper dummies, giving some of the viewers false numbers lol

  • @2357ys
    @2357ys 12 дней назад

    nice propaganda

  • @mrmattes2081
    @mrmattes2081 15 дней назад +5

    No, that doesn't help anyone except you so that you have content to upload.
    As everyone knows, a lot of changes and/or adjustments are made up until shortly before the first season.
    The video has exactly zero added value.

    • @Izenhart
      @Izenhart  15 дней назад +4

      According to your Mensa member logic then nobody should be discussing a single thing about the expansion until it's out, right?
      Oh wait, but we all know it doesn't matter until the Season actually opens so we have to wait until then?
      But wait, we all know Blizzard balances Specs after a couple of weeks of results so I guess that's when we're allowed to talk about the game? late September?
      I lost IQ reading this

    • @gregross2532
      @gregross2532 15 дней назад

      Can you not read? The title literally says "for now"

    • @landrybt
      @landrybt 15 дней назад +1

      Thanks, I was worried I wasn't going to find my clown of the day today.

    • @Lt_Rik
      @Lt_Rik 15 дней назад

      Your comment added zero value to the universe. It actually subtracted quite a bit.

    • @chancejohnson23
      @chancejohnson23 15 дней назад

      @@Izenhartit’s just typical brain rot comments. Keep posting mr izen king 👑

  • @Streaming_Music
    @Streaming_Music 15 дней назад

    Retitle video: LoCkS R BeST. K LAWL