Another great video! I just picked up this panel used for $100. I agree with all your pros and cons. I really like it overall for the price and portability.
Did you get the accessories as well?? Shoot that would make it an even better deal if you did. At least 10 dollars a pop per cable making the panel like 70. Winning! At least thats how I think about stuff.
@@AskIveSolar I got into it not long after I moved to Japan around 6 years ago. Was looking for something to handle power outages in emergencies from severe weather or earthquakes and Bluetti happened to be doing their Indiegogo for the AC200 at the time. I grabbed that and also grabbed a couple of 100W foldable (but metal-framed and rigid) Renogy panels to go with it. Now I bought a EB3A for leisure, just day-trips or a short camp out in nature and was looking for some more suitable panels (lighter, easier to deploy). The AllPowers look good for the money and that you just happening to be testing with the EB3A sold it to me. On top of that they match the voltage of my 100W Renogy panels too, so if I'm ever in a real emergency, I could parallel the Renogy panels and then hook those parallel'd panels up to the 200W AllPowers in series and the AC200 should be able to take all of it. And if for some reason that didn't work, I could still hook the AllPowers up to the EB3A, the Renogys up to the AC200, then hook the EB3A up to the AC200 via DC.
I prefer the glass panels for home use and only use the folding fabric panels for camping, where space is a consideration. I agree the fabric panels are too floppy and bow during the summer heat.
That took some time - thank you for the time - thank you for the edits - ENJoyed cause I have really been wondering about the AllPowers operation. - blessings ya'll
Fortunately I have a south-facing back wall. Also a lightweight low rectangular table, so I can put panels against the wall and the table mostly, not so much falling over!! And these 200W panels are great, imo. I have 2 of them, they can pump in 160 and higher watts easily in good sun, even now in the winter. Price was less than half of the Bluetti 200W monocrystalline, and they are lighter. Very useful.
Nice review man, I just got one of these recently, and I can't wait to test it out with my River Pro and see what happens. Thanks for your hard work too
@@AskIveSolar I can agree with that seems like something is wrong with the 100 watts (not the first time i hear that aswell) My 140 Watt produce easily 120+watts in summertime👍
I just bought a EB3A & am now researching various panels. Saw a vid yesterday where this guy did comparisons of 10 different panels and All Power caught my eye as the best cost per watt. Yes, parallel is better and All Power is parallel.
@@AskIveSolar Yeah, pretty much. I'm using for camping out of a Camry. Lol. I had thought about getting a roof rack for a panel & a box but then I would need to spend a lot more.
I bought the allpower 200w SP035, and it won't work for my EB3A, to many volts got it for $180 on eBay was hoping this would work was hoping I could figure out a way to lower the voltage with the controller but the more I research the more I get confused, what did you end up doing
@AskIve Solar kinda surprised I didnt see a video from you about Ecoflow's refurb sale going on right now. I got a River Max+ for $279.20 definitely good price for a River model with 720WH capacity. Same warranty as new too. Glad to see you're coming around to folding panels though. I have 4 of the 300W Dokio folding panels but Im using them out on the trail in my suburban
I got a generic brand I think it was made at the same factory. I spray UV protection on the fabric like Scotchgard Sun and Water Shield just like spraying a tent it will make it last about three times longer. Don't get UV spray on the panels. You want to clean any dust off the panels with a soft cloth before folding them because any dirt will scratch both sides. What a pain. LOL
I want 2 folding panels hooked up in series. 40 volts will be going into the MPPT controller. I take photos and burn them on wood or tile with a portable DIY solar-powered laser burner. It's still coming together. With the panels and enough battery, I can take it with me and use it anywhere. I call it burning art with the sun.
Thats a pretty cool idea bout the scotchguard. Very interesting @ the burning art stuff. Can you send me a few pictures via email or somewhere on social media. solarquestions@askive.com
I have the Bluetti PV 200 Solar Panel that I purchased thinking that I would've been able to use it on the Bluetti EB3A. Unfortunately the current at Max. Power is 9.7 amps on the panel. The EB3A can only handle 8.5 max amps Solar input. I guess I would have the same issue with this panel even though the max. Solar Wattage the EB3A can handle is 200 watts. Bummer. But did I see you use it on an EB3A?
Yeah the low amp limit sucks and it would apply to this panel as well. The crazy part is that usually, these panels don't out more than around 8 amps anyway. My river typically shows the same input wattage as the eb70 (which has an 8 amp limit). But I never angle them perfectly tho so.... The highest I've ever seen is 181 in the river as it does not have the 8 amp limit. But that was once. They all typically pull in the same power from 200 watts.
@@debbiedogs1 Hi. I am no expert by far. But, I feel that your saving grace has been that solar panels never put out what they are supposed to. So they never reach their actual rating.🤞
So what happens is the power station pulls amps. The panel doesn't send them. So the eb3a limits the amps coming in. So that bluetti panel is fine. The thing we can't go over is volts.
@AskIveSolar I connect EB3A to an allpower 200w Sp035, and it said alarm voltage, man I really wanted this to work out at $180 on eBay, will a portable controller lower the voltage so I can use it on the EB3A, all power says they work on most solar generators but of course not the one I got .
Peace Bro, I just received mine today from Amazon, and upon inspection I noticed the solar cells connection at the very edge, I mean I got some connected, and some not connected. It's the silver type connection on the solar cell. I'm hoping I won't have a problem, and my observations mean nothing, I am no electronic technician or anything, just hoping it aint nothing.
Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful information with us who are newbies to solar power. Because of your excellent information I had to subscribe. Can you tell me if there is a solar power station that can handle a small 750w heater and approximately how long could it last: Or would I need a gas outdoor generator for something like that? Thanks
The bigger Powerstations have around 2kWh capacity, The big Ecoflows can be connected to additional batteries zu get up to 6kWh collectively I think. You just have to divide the capacity with the power of your heater and you get the approx. runtime: 2000Wh / 750W = ~2,6h So for heating maybe the generator is the more (cost) effective solution. (with 2 additional batteries for the ecoflow you are looking at about 5 to 6k€ for up to 7 or 8 hours of runtime between charges)
Thanks Michi, I thought I responded to this. There are many power stations that can run the heater, especially with solar coming in, but heaters use a lot of power and as Michi said, most power stations cost about .80 cents a watt. Most people say that using heat on a power station is not very efficient. To give an example, the delta 2 can run that heater for maybe an hour because it has around 100p watt hours of battery. It costs about a thousand bucks too.
Off topic . I have a 100w In/out usb-c port on my powerstation. The problem is when I connect it to charge a powerbank , the powerbank charges the powerstation instead . I flipped the usb-c connector and the same result . Do you know where I can find a power delivery usb- c (OUTPUT ONLY ) cable ?
Great question! I went down that path briefly but gave up. I think the USB C standard is supposed to be bidirectional. I just purchased a 12v to 100 USB c and gave up on trying to figure that stuff out. Since you're charging a power bank, you probably don't need 100 watts.
If I click my affiliate link. It's 30 dollars off. Maybe they don't work together. But 10% off 300 is about the same since it's 309. I mean it is a 200 watt panel which should go for around 400.
Another great video! I just picked up this panel used for $100. I agree with all your pros and cons. I really like it overall for the price and portability.
Did you get the accessories as well?? Shoot that would make it an even better deal if you did. At least 10 dollars a pop per cable making the panel like 70. Winning!
At least thats how I think about stuff.
@@AskIveSolar Yes. All accessories included and not even used. Seems like only the mc4s were used. I didn’t consider it that way but great point.
AWESOME video Ive! This covered it all! You even did the partial shading test (it's wired in parallel). Big thumbs up from me.
Thanks boss! So does that mean they are all in para? So I have to wonder what the panels are rated at. My brain hurts thinking about that.
@@AskIveSolar yes, parallel, all power output would have dropped if they were in series.
The Marques Brownlee of Solar. My goto source for solar info, thanks...
Such a dope thing to say! I greatly appreciate that man. #goals
@@AskIveSolar I definitely get some MKBHD vibes, minus all the staff he has dedicated to production lol
Subscribed!
@@t0nkatsu haha. Yeah I got a waaaaaaaays to go before that production value. Appreciate the sub Ricky. You new to solar or been into it for a while.
@@AskIveSolar I got into it not long after I moved to Japan around 6 years ago. Was looking for something to handle power outages in emergencies from severe weather or earthquakes and Bluetti happened to be doing their Indiegogo for the AC200 at the time. I grabbed that and also grabbed a couple of 100W foldable (but metal-framed and rigid) Renogy panels to go with it.
Now I bought a EB3A for leisure, just day-trips or a short camp out in nature and was looking for some more suitable panels (lighter, easier to deploy).
The AllPowers look good for the money and that you just happening to be testing with the EB3A sold it to me.
On top of that they match the voltage of my 100W Renogy panels too, so if I'm ever in a real emergency, I could parallel the Renogy panels and then hook those parallel'd panels up to the 200W AllPowers in series and the AC200 should be able to take all of it. And if for some reason that didn't work, I could still hook the AllPowers up to the EB3A, the Renogys up to the AC200, then hook the EB3A up to the AC200 via DC.
I prefer the glass panels for home use and only use the folding fabric panels for camping, where space is a consideration. I agree the fabric panels are too floppy and bow during the summer heat.
That took some time - thank you for the time - thank you for the edits - ENJoyed cause I have really been wondering about the AllPowers operation. - blessings ya'll
Thanks so much GrandAcres :)
You gotta have a couple of portable panels for quick deployment. Another awesome video!
True!! Thanks Sir for the kind words
Great video buddy. You know you love those woods LOL
😂😂😂
Thanks Sir! I said once, I LOVE the outside ...from inside. Lol
Looks super!
Fortunately I have a south-facing back wall. Also a lightweight low rectangular table, so I can put panels against the wall and the table mostly, not so much falling over!! And these 200W panels are great, imo. I have 2 of them, they can pump in 160 and higher watts easily in good sun, even now in the winter. Price was less than half of the Bluetti 200W monocrystalline, and they are lighter. Very useful.
I gotta get my back fence solar ready finally
Nice review man, I just got one of these recently, and I can't wait to test it out with my River Pro and see what happens. Thanks for your hard work too
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This is an excellent real world review. Thanks!
Why thank you. What kind of solar do you have if any?
Im using the Allpowers 140Watts and im more then satisfied with this one. Good video👍
Someone sent me a video of their 100 watt all powers not working well. They had two of them. My 200 has been banging out day in and day out.
@@AskIveSolar I can agree with that seems like something is wrong with the 100 watts (not the first time i hear that aswell) My 140 Watt produce easily 120+watts in summertime👍
I just bought a EB3A & am now researching various panels. Saw a vid yesterday where this guy did comparisons of 10 different panels and All Power caught my eye as the best cost per watt. Yes, parallel is better and All Power is parallel.
Do you absolutely need to go folding?
@@AskIveSolar Yeah, pretty much. I'm using for camping out of a Camry. Lol. I had thought about getting a roof rack for a panel & a box but then I would need to spend a lot more.
All powers is a good budget offering in the folding space for sparce usage.
I bought the allpower 200w SP035, and it won't work for my EB3A, to many volts got it for $180 on eBay was hoping this would work was hoping I could figure out a way to lower the voltage with the controller but the more I research the more I get confused, what did you end up doing
@@tonyturner7655use a solar controller
@AskIve Solar kinda surprised I didnt see a video from you about Ecoflow's refurb sale going on right now. I got a River Max+ for $279.20 definitely good price for a River model with 720WH capacity. Same warranty as new too. Glad to see you're coming around to folding panels though. I have 4 of the 300W Dokio folding panels but Im using them out on the trail in my suburban
What's up Jeremy. I wasn't in the loop bro. Thanks for the heads up. Is this ok ebay or something on their site?
@@AskIveSolar ebay. Thats not the only deal they have going, just the best I've ever seen on that model
Where is this deal on 720 wh panel ?
sorry I read that wrong..
I got a generic brand I think it was made at the same factory. I spray UV protection on the fabric like Scotchgard Sun and Water Shield just like spraying a tent it will make it last about three times longer. Don't get UV spray on the panels. You want to clean any dust off the panels with a soft cloth before folding them because any dirt will scratch both sides. What a pain. LOL
I want 2 folding panels hooked up in series. 40 volts will be going into the MPPT controller. I take photos and burn them on wood or tile with a portable DIY solar-powered laser burner. It's still coming together. With the panels and enough battery, I can take it with me and use it anywhere. I call it burning art with the sun.
Thats a pretty cool idea bout the scotchguard. Very interesting @ the burning art stuff. Can you send me a few pictures via email or somewhere on social media.
solarquestions@askive.com
Nice! Thank you for sharing :D
Thanks for the video.
What do you use your Solar power rig for or to power?
As much stuff on my house as I can. Lamps Internet tv dryer washer. But I have a ton of power stations and panels
Looks Nice for the money
And as someone pointed out, it goes cheaper too
I have the Bluetti PV 200 Solar Panel that I purchased thinking that I would've been able to use it on the Bluetti EB3A. Unfortunately the current at Max. Power is 9.7 amps on the panel. The EB3A can only handle 8.5 max amps Solar input. I guess I would have the same issue with this panel even though the max. Solar Wattage the EB3A can handle is 200 watts. Bummer. But did I see you use it on an EB3A?
Yeah the low amp limit sucks and it would apply to this panel as well.
The crazy part is that usually, these panels don't out more than around 8 amps anyway. My river typically shows the same input wattage as the eb70 (which has an 8 amp limit).
But I never angle them perfectly tho so....
The highest I've ever seen is 181 in the river as it does not have the 8 amp limit. But that was once. They all typically pull in the same power from 200 watts.
I use my Bluetti 200W panel to charge my EB3A. Is that wrong? Don't the controllers in the unit ensure regulation? Has worked well for me so far.
@@debbiedogs1 Hi. I am no expert by far. But, I feel that your saving grace has been that solar panels never put out what they are supposed to. So they never reach their actual rating.🤞
So what happens is the power station pulls amps. The panel doesn't send them. So the eb3a limits the amps coming in. So that bluetti panel is fine. The thing we can't go over is volts.
@@AskIveSolar Thank you buddy. Much obliged.
You connect a EB3A to this panel?
Yeah
@AskIveSolar I connect EB3A to an allpower 200w Sp035, and it said alarm voltage, man I really wanted this to work out at $180 on eBay, will a portable controller lower the voltage so I can use it on the EB3A, all power says they work on most solar generators but of course not the one I got .
Seems the voltage is too high. Be happy it didn't fry it!
The irony of power lines casting a shadow decreasing power
🙂
Peace Bro, I just received mine today from Amazon, and upon inspection I noticed the solar cells connection at the very edge, I mean I got some connected, and some not connected. It's the silver type connection on the solar cell. I'm hoping I won't have a problem, and my observations mean nothing, I am no electronic technician or anything, just hoping it aint nothing.
That's interesting. Can you email me a picture of what you mean so I can compare
Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful information with us who are newbies to solar power. Because of your excellent information I had to subscribe. Can you tell me if there is a solar power station that can handle a small 750w heater and approximately how long could it last: Or would I need a gas outdoor generator for something like that? Thanks
The bigger Powerstations have around 2kWh capacity, The big Ecoflows can be connected to additional batteries zu get up to 6kWh collectively I think. You just have to divide the capacity with the power of your heater and you get the approx. runtime: 2000Wh / 750W = ~2,6h So for heating maybe the generator is the more (cost) effective solution. (with 2 additional batteries for the ecoflow you are looking at about 5 to 6k€ for up to 7 or 8 hours of runtime between charges)
Thanks Michi, I thought I responded to this. There are many power stations that can run the heater, especially with solar coming in, but heaters use a lot of power and as Michi said, most power stations cost about .80 cents a watt.
Most people say that using heat on a power station is not very efficient.
To give an example, the delta 2 can run that heater for maybe an hour because it has around 100p watt hours of battery. It costs about a thousand bucks too.
I am only getting 116W from this panel on 4 July in Florida....
Heat can play a role and do you use it daily / often.
Off topic . I have a 100w In/out usb-c port on my powerstation. The problem is when I connect it to charge a powerbank , the powerbank charges the powerstation instead . I flipped the usb-c connector and the same result . Do you know where I can find a power delivery usb- c (OUTPUT ONLY ) cable ?
Great question! I went down that path briefly but gave up. I think the USB C standard is supposed to be bidirectional.
I just purchased a 12v to 100 USB c and gave up on trying to figure that stuff out. Since you're charging a power bank, you probably don't need 100 watts.
Legend has it that his finger is still bleeding
:)
Can this work with an ecoflow river max without having to buy anything extra?
The new one or the old one?
The new one. Nah, you need an mc4 to xt60.
The old one, yes since you should already have the cable.
@@AskIveSolar the old one it’s not the latest river 2, thanks I may buy this panel 😊
Out of my budget.
It is 309 right now
What about the coupon. I thought it had one.
And the link in the description may help too
@@AskIveSolar 10 % is only coupon I saw.
If I click my affiliate link. It's 30 dollars off. Maybe they don't work together. But 10% off 300 is about the same since it's 309. I mean it is a 200 watt panel which should go for around 400.
They frequently go on sale for $230-$250 on Amazon just have to wait on it
Thanks Joe!