As you can see, my voice was in shambles this vlog. But I still pulled through for you guys, so I hope you can appreciate the effort. I apologize for the lack of quality you can usually expect 🙏🏻
Standing airtime… reminds me of Wildcats revenge and iron Gwazi as I got standing airtime on both, ur thighs will hurt like hell if you get standing airtime on a rmc
So, way back in 1998 (I was 30 at that time), Shivering Timbers opened with an amazing debut. ACE had a coaster event at Michigan’s Adventure on that day, and many of us waited in line for hours while the State of Michigan and CCI finished their final walk-around and inspection. Many people who were there on that day will argue, without question, I might add, Shivering Timber’s debut in 1998 is one of the greatest roller coaster debuts of all time. I will never forget the rider reactions of the first trains that stopped on the final brakes, screaming and hollering with appreciation. It was electric! The entire ride experience was, still to this day, one of the best roller coaster experiences of my life.
This is my home park! Fun fact: Shivering Timbers was ranked 2nd top wood roller coaster for golden ticket award 5 straight years in a row! I agree with you when most of the time I would rather drive to Kings Island or Cedar Point and I'm in the Grand Rapids area. But they have been improving the park with small things the past few years. So hopefully a big investment is on the horizon! And yes attendance is low at times ,but in the past when they had a huge investment like Thunderhawk and Grand Rapids they had record high attendance both years they came out. So I feel a large investment is most likely within 1 to 3 years, A Vekoma sit down coaster is my bet for the next coaster here. It's rather cheap and probably could get one like at Energylandia or the one at Legendia. both only cost 11 million. which is only 1 million more than the Thunderhawk investment 16 years ago. Also I strongly believe the next coaster will be the park's biggest investment ever. And this year they finally added halloween weekends finally!
I saw this under construction when i was 9. I will never forget it. For me, its always been the Millennium Force of wood coasters. Or maybe the Magnum, or maybe Ttd. Idk its underrated forsure
The thing is is that Michigan's Adventure is actually extremely popular with locals mostly because you pay one still somewhat reasonable price and you get the excellent water park as well. One of the main reasons Cedarfair does not do any capital investment in Michigan's Adventure isn't because it's competition, but that it continuously operates in the black so therefore they don't need to do anything other than basic maintenance on it. Considering if you live in the Grand Rapids and Muskegon area near Michigan's Adventure which also isn't very far from Lansing the state capital all of those are only an hour to two hours away whereas Cedar Point is 4 1/2 to 6 hours away from any of those places. Yes CPT is a huge big crazy Park with excellent rides butt the lines are insane nowadays and to make it actually doable you have to spend multiple days or a lot of money on skip the line passes. Michigan's Adventure is a very cost-effective way to enjoy summer Amusements because the waterpark is excellent and there is Shivering Timbers which is arguably a world-class wooden coaster. It's one of Cedar Fair's jewels in it's crown and it's one of the reasons why Michigan's Adventure as long as it continues to operate in the black will stay open but unfortunately will not get the attention it deserves from Cedar Fair. I think they would benefit from an RMC Raptor. I'm not sure Wolverine Wildcat merits the RMC treatment and I certainly hope they never do it to Shivering Timbers though I'd love to see Titan track on all of Wolverine Wildcat and I wouldn't mind that with Shivering Timbers either because it's really struggling now getting rougher and rougher despite the retracting that it has had in the past. Yes I'm from Michigan and technically I've been to Cedar Point and Michigan's Adventure roughly equal numbers of times and well worth the Cedar Fair company season pass if you're in central to Southern Michigan... but even from the Detroit metro area Cedar Point is a bit of a haul. It's just far enough away to be difficult to go there do the park and then come back and one day and I would say nearly impossible nowadays. Backward in the park was cheaper in the lines weren't as long with a couple of coasters less it was way more worth it to do quick trips so I know that a lot of my friends have opted to go to Michigan's Adventure instead especially ones with kids since they opened up Camp Snoopy. I hope that Cedar Fair realizes that sends Cedar Point is so crazy busy that they need to add capital investment into Michigan's Adventure. I know that the locals would gladly pay more for a few good roller coasters other than Shivering Timbers because right now it's the only truly unique thing at the park. I always thought that it would benefit from an RMC Raptor. I think they'd be wasting their time are emceeing Wolverine Wildcat but then again I don't know they've done some pretty good small jobs but certainly it could benefit from Titan track through the whole ride. I don't want them to touch Shivering Timbers other than possibly Titan track the whole thing. It's perfect as it is but it does tend to get incredibly rough quickly after any of the retracting that's been done and I think that's because it's a Speed Demon. The ride doesn't slow down for a second to the entire thing and that's got to take its toll on a track. I suppose I could possibly get better trains too but but never said they ever mess with it too much. The profile of it as you pull into the parking lot is astonishing. Probably one of the best amusement park front yards ever. It's amazing that it's longer than the entire length of their pretty size of a parking lot. By the way love your thumbnail excellent shot of it
So, if a park operates in the black, don't do anything? Are you saying that all Cedar Fair parks that get new investments are operating in the red? I live in Michigan and don't want to go there since the newest coaster is a crappy, relocated SLC. Maybe, if we're lucky, we'll get Railblazer in 10 years when they close CGA.
@@rossh688 I didn't bother to go into detail but since you mentioned it here you go you get the long essay and I'm not going to bother to edit or double-check any of the typos or autocorrect cuz I'm too tired . First off I was only talking about Michigan and what you said is not exactly what I said but I feel your pain and just so you know I'm from Michigan to even though I don't live there currently, I will move back there one day sooner than later. It's an interesting situation, they could have just bought the park and sold it to get rid of the competition but the thing is it was profitable enough for them to keep it yet not big enough to be a competition. They have made major investments in it just no huge major new ride. They've just brought it up to Cedar Fair standards and brought it in line with their other smaller parks. Unfortunately none of these things we're mostly meant for adults as it was aimed at families something that Cedar Point itself hasn't been really great at until more recently. I'm pretty sure that they will do more now that the pandemic is over. Like making a train go around the lake and putting something like a drop tower or another relocated coaster perhaps the flying coaster since Cedar Point doesn't have one of those added to the other side of the park to Anchor that path. I do think that we will get a bigger investment there, something I'd like to call a small big one which will likely be giving the RMC treatment to Wildcat or like you say a railblazer though I doubt it'll be the one from CGA cuz that's likely a Dozen Years out, which would likely go on the back end of the park on the other side of the lake. If you look at ariel maps and do some research you will see that cedarfair has been slowly creeping around the lake and preparing what looks to be the future of the park. Cedar Fair and pretty much dominates the all of the Great Lakes now because think about it they bought Canada's Wonderland they bought Kings Island Geauga Lake Etc and the only one of those Parks if they got rid of was the one that was the most difficult to deal with and had the least amount of return on its investment, though they tried. Don't forget there was a Marine Mammal Park attached to Geauga Lake which was extremely difficult to keep profitable and didn't fire hawk come from there? They essentially gutted it for parts and sold it too far more profitable real estate Developers . They kept the two good ones and use that money to invest in them I eat Kings Island and Cedar Point itself . The thing is you've got to think big and and decades timescales when analyzing this kind of thing. It also helps that you actually look at the figures that they do release. Before Cedar Fair the owners of Michigan's Adventure were smart by building a massive iconic roller coaster like shivering Timbers building a pretty decent Waterpark especially for a regional one then slapping the two parks for one price on it. It's something that if cedarfair ever got rid of their would-be mutiny but also the amusement park side just doesn't have enough on its own to separate them yet and frankly why bother they don't have to despite how badly we'd like it. As I said I don't live in Michigan currently. I live near Birmingham Alabama and they have a local park here that's similar it's mostly decent Waterpark with a small amusement park attached to it and only one major coaster with not much else. It works just fine as it is so aside from cosmetic improvements and maintenance they don't do s***. The thing is two and a half hours away from here is Six Flags Over Georgia near Atlanta plus the Funspot there has added a ground-up RMC and also not too far from us is Dollywood perhaps 6 to 8 hours on a great drive through Chattanooga something that a lot of people from this area do. Also on the Gulf Coast some company built from the ground up a small decent amusement park. I see Michigan's Adventure in a similar position where unless it gets extremely busy or starts dying off Cedar Fair really isn't going to do much other than slow small incremental movements with an occasional perhaps once every 6 to 7 years Maybe big bump. There was a time that I thought that the lines at Cedar Point we're getting so obnoxious that they would definitely invest more in Michigan's Adventures simply to siphon off some of it but they've already done that with Kings Island which in itself can get pretty busy but nothing like Cedar Point. That seems to have changed. All of the bloggers that I see at Cedar Point this year including theme park worldwide right as we speak which surprisingly seem to trim off a side trip to ride shivering Timbers if you look at his travel map it's pretty obvious you had to trim off a little fat, anyway my point was to your point just doesn't look as busy as normal. However what it does look like as manageable. My guess is that people are holding off going there until next year when dragster reopens. I'm also guessing that Michigan's Adventures going to have a bumper year because why go to Cedar Point this year when there's going to be something new next year. Why so many people including myself say that Michigan's Adventure doesn't get lots of huge investments in it because it's running in the black? It's a cash cow for Cedar Point and help support the parks in the chain that aren't doing so well perhaps that year and by not doing significant capital investment other than making it in line with their other parks they also control any potential serious competition with themselves as well as keeping other corporations from buying it that would be real competition. I remember how excited we were and scared at the same time when Cedar Fair bought Michigan's Adventure. We thought for sure it was either going to get torn down or on the outside that it was going to be completely renovated adding something new and big because Cedar Point was running out of room to invest in. What we got was something in between the two. Cedar Point will never sell Michigan's Adventure as is. They would sell off the parts like shivering Timbers and the water slides Etc then sell it to a real estate or apartment developer. This is exactly what they did with Geauga Lake. Michigan's Adventure had another problem similar to Geauga Lake had as it got bigger. There is also another issue that never gets mentioned and that is the road infrastructure in the area around the park. If you look at Cedar Fair's other parks you'll notice already built in road infrastructure to support huge crowds coming to it. The Whitehall area hasn't exactly been Cooperative with Cedar Point on this front. I don't know a lot about it but if you do the research by digging into quarterly reports and the politics surrounding all of it you'll get a pretty good understanding of why I said what I did and why so many other people say the same. Not to worry it's not going anywhere but don't count on them doing too much and when they do count on them doing it slowly. For now they wanted to capture the families and one day as families get a little older they go to Cedar Point. That seems to be their grand plan. Hopefully my theory is as clear as mud. Personally I think Cedar Fair wants you to buy a season pass and go to all their parks in the area
Thanks for the video. Shivering Timbers looks like a fantastic wood coaster. I am from Pennsylvania so I most likely will never get to see this park. Many people bad mouth it because as you said Cedar Fair only maintains the park with little new investment. However those two wooden coasters you showed look great. That Shivering Timbers coaster is really different because of those major hills on the outbound part of the run are unmatched from any other coasters I have ridden. I love wooden coasters and rode all the ones we have in PA as well as many others around the country but I am sorry I never have been able to get to this park. The other nice thing you mentioned was the lack of long lines. I hate waiting too long to ride any coaster. It looks like at this park you can get multiple rides in without waiting too long.
Shivering Timbers is the one that made me love roller coasters. It's a fantastic ride, and it is the true King of airtime. I love Steel Vengeance, but it's airtime doesn't compare to this one. I rode Timbers 5 times the first time I ever rode coasters. I seriously love that thing.
I still love Timbers, though it's gotten a lot rougher. Having ridden Steel Vengeance again, it's still my #1. And, I would say the airtime of Steel Vengeance matches if not beats Timbers. That said, Timbers is still an absolute gem. With some retracking it will be phenomenal again, and be rid of the jackhammering.
Wow the airtime looks outstanding on shivering Timbers! I think the drive just for this ride is worth it alone because of the succession of airtime hills back to back for 5,000+ feet of track
It's awesome to hear someone talk nicely about Michigan's adventure/shivering timbers. I've been waiting for a new coaster at my home park since thunderhawk. Nice video. I've been going there since the mid90s.
Great video - thank you! We're from Michigan. We mostly go to Cedar Point, but we always make days to go to Michigan's Adventure to ride Timbers. It's an incredible ride! The first time I rode it, I was expecting a long Gemini, but it was more a Mean Streak on steroids. Wildcat is a good ride for variety, but Timbers is our main attraction. I think the water park is the biggest attractor to MI Adventure, and I'd argue that it is better than Cedar Point's water park. But Timbers is what brings us there again and again, being only 2 hours away. Thanks for this video - it is one of the best we've seen about Timbers.
I’ve been going to mi adventures for over 10 years and I got to ride shivering Timbers with the trick track. I love it so much even though Michigans adventure is small and gets neglected it’s still alot of fun imo.
So glad someone mentioned the former trick track. I only rode this a few times back in 2005 from England when that was still in situ. Shame they removed that unique old style feature.
That coaster is nothing but hill after hill after hill! Not an imaginative layout, but it certainly looks extremely thrilling and exciting! Nothing wrong with that! The backseat is probably the best one on this one. Awesome video - loved it!
Wow!! I am prepared to declare this the King of Coasters and I have never ridden the ride. I have ridden the Comet at Hershey since I was 9 or 10, (I'm 65 now), and Phoenix at Knobels Grove dozens of times. They are my favorites because they are all about the hills. This ride is nothing but hills. Thumbs up and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for showing it.
Never been on Shivering Timbers but it looks so awesome! Glad you enjoyed it, that jank doesn’t show thru the POV so it’s cool to hear. Also honestly Wolverine Wildcats few bunny hills after the first turnaround i think look great.
Your poor voice is shredded, so I hope it's better soon, but it was really cool to see a different park and some coasters I haven't seen before. Thanks so much to you and your brother!
Shivering Timbers is definitely on my all time favorites list. The back seat air time is absolutely euphoric!! Also I see they've re tracked a small portion of wolverine wildcat which is good I guess?? Im glad that coaster is slower paced because that thing is RCCA level bumpy. But that's what woodies are for am I right?!😊
I remember someone calling this ride Timber Force, a reference to the Steel Force hyper at Dorney Park. I went to this park twenty years ago. It really is a woodie made for airtime.
I rode Timbers when it was new. It was smooth & insane. I liked it as much/ maybe more than Voyage. I don’t quite get “weird” & “ janky” describing that fantastic ride.
I'm 5 miles down the road from Michigan's Adventure in North Muskegon, Mi. My daughter and I have ridden this coaster 8 times in a row some days. It's wild! One time it blew my glasses off and the lady behind me was wearing them! Make sure you stow loose items like glasses, phones, and pocket change!
The thing with wolverine wildcat is that the 3 smooth bunny hills in the first half were added this year, im guessing the rest of the coaster is getting a full retrack which would be nice. Great vlog btw, love seeing enthusiasts give my home park a chance
That’s why most people in Michigan go to cedar point. Unless you live in the area where Muskegon is closer odds are CP is a closer park or seen as more worth the drive. I live in metro Detroit and can get to Sandusky in about an hour less. If not doing a road trip why wouldn’t you go to the more well invested park?
Mi adv started as a petting zoo and it still is. It's for families with young children and when the children become teenagers and get the hormones and all that, you start going to Cedar Point. That's the Real Michigan Adventure. Also I'm pretty sure that 90 percent of the people in Detroit have never even heard of MI Adventure. Cedar Point is basically a suburb of Detroit.
Great review of the park. 100% Correct - It feels like there is a next level potential just waiting to be tapped. Allot of the park you can tell they are still maintaining very well but the place needs that one more GOOD coaster. I love this coaster myself - Shivering timbers is definitely a EXCELLENT standout coaster IMO. If it was smoother it would be forgetful imo - just enough to keep you on edge with all the air time and speed but not so bad that you don’t want to rife again.
You really did a great job with this vlog despite your voice, that’s a sign of toughness and dedication, anyways, I haven’t been to the park since 2016 (at age 13, and only during my second season as a full-time coaster enthusiast on our way to see family members outside of Detroit) and yes, it’s in dead last place in terms of Cedar Fair parks, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad park at all. Yes, it does feel a little neglected, but I liked the wooded atmosphere in certain portions, and lake in the center, and it does need improvement, but it isn’t meant to be that thrilling park at all. From what I remember, Shivering Timbers was a great ride, but I need to give this park a revisit, but not until I take an enthusiast friend there for their first time on a Midwest trip.
It’s astonishing how little Cedar Fair puts into this park considering the metro area the park is located in is about 1 million people. It’s not that far from Cedar Point, but if you look at the metro area of Columbus, Ohio it’s located almost half way between Cedar Point and King’s Island. Detroit and Toledo are about half way between these two parks and you’ll likely see a bunch of people who will go to both parks just like a lot of people from Columbus go to both parks.
Since they spent over 5 million dollars on re-tracks, coaster re-paint, and other park improvements. it’s safe to say they aren’t getting a new coaster or RMC in the near future. I think water park upgrades including a new wave pool are next on the list.
Honestly... Ive been drooling over them fixing up this park for years now. YES! Wildcat should be RMC'd I really feel they should have GCI re-do S.T. maybe even change the layout at the first turn. But keep it wooden. They also have a ton of land behind wildcat they could Easily add brand new/Better coasters. But we'll see what the future holds for M.A.
I know exactly what you're talking about with it feeling like it's going to derail. I think it's because there's so much space between the main wheels and the up-stop wheels that every airtime moment the trains kind of slam up into the up-stop wheels. it's such a bizarre feeling. sometimes you can feel no wheels touching at all. like the trains are just floating off the track, like literally. That feeling used to freak me out so much on this ride.
I rode wolverine wildcat last year in the front and the second valley was the single roughest moment of any coaster Ive ever ridden (out of 464). I had to re adjust my idea of what woodie roughness was. That whole section was retracked and reprofiled this off-season - be glad you missed it!!!
13:19 as a Michigander, can confirm, I would much rather make the 3 hour drive to Sandusky to go to Cedar Point than the 2 hour drive to Muskegon to go to Michigan’s Adventure.
@@playdiscgolf1546 Yea, that’s the downside to a bigger park like Cedar Point. I don’t make it there that often so I make sure to get fast pass and spend a couple days so I can make sure I get to ride everything I want to ride. I guess that is one plus for Michigan’s Adventure, with it only having one ride actually worth making the trip out there to ride.
Great video! Actually seems like a good park! You said you were in Toledo after the video was filmed so I'm guessing you're going to cedar point again!
You should have seen this park before Cedar Fair got it - talk about reinvention. They've done wonders what what was there already. The reality is it's already been reinvented and then some. Hope it continues it's slow crawl to worthwhile!
Im from Michigan. I remember taking my first trip to Michigans Adventure. It was very underwhelming because we had been to cedar point first. So we are planning it right. Taking my kiddos to michigans adventure first.
Cedar Fair will never invest in it. Shivering Timbers would have never been built by CF. I have ridden Shivering Timbers many times and love it. I am not sure why you think it's weird. It's just an out and back with a ton of really good airtime hills.
So I rode Shivering Timbers for the first time this year and it is easily a top 10 woodie in the US and from my perspective better than Mystic Timbers. Incredible coaster. It will be interesting to see if they put GCI Titan track on parts of it.
Nice vlog Marc. ST is definitely a great ride, but that was about all that I really enjoyed. I felt that the park was dead too and lacked the atmosphere that every other CF park except maybe parts of Dorney that got “cedar faired” in the late 90s (concrete midways and boring buildings). Also, it was good to see Wildcat received some track work. I rode near the middle/back of the train and it was definitely my least favorite major coaster I’ve done. It looked like the track hadn’t had any work done in ages. Hopefully they’ll do what they did with Timberwolf and GCI retrack the whole ride in sections until it’s smooth. The park was good for what it is, but really lacks compared to even the lower tier CF parks. This park would be under everyone’s radar without ST.
I rose it last summer for the first time. The front row is super rough, not what you would expect. As it rises into each hill it jolts you, as if you just hit a pothole on the road. Back row was pretty fun though
ive never been to michigans adventure but I still defend it anyway cause i feel like the hate is most likely overblown (just like la ronde, which i have been too, very fun)
It certainly is. This is by no means a bad amusement park, as long as Shivering Timbers is running. I do firmly believe it’s the saving grace to one’s visit, though there’s other nice qualities of Michigan’s Adventure too. I think it gets the hate it does because of it’s overwhelming potential and lack of quality relative to other Cedar Fair amusement parks.
@@CoasterDash oh yeah agreed, tbh I hope wildcat gets gravity group treatment, that or RMC but they keep the first half cause the first bit looks really fun
People bash it because it’s small and CF doesn’t treat it with the esteem of other parks. Probably because 1. Muskegon is a small market. And 2. They don’t want MA taking too much market share from those who might go to Cedar Point from that area.
We took a class trip to Michigan's Adventure in the late 90's. It was my first time on a Rollercoaster. I remember liking Shivering Timbers and the corkscrew but HATING that other wooden coaster. I had a massive headache getting off it it was so rough. It's nice to see the place again!
That looks like some serious negative Gs. Meanwhile, after moving to Texas, I discovered Kemah's Boardwalk Bullet. Out of control, lots of dips and turns, crammed into a tiny space so it's more intense. I urge people to avoid my former home state, California. It's collapsing quickly. If you ignore my plea, there's Santa Cruz's Giant Dipper, which throws you out of your seat much like Shivering Timbers; and Buena Park Knott's Ghost Rider, even more out of control than the Boardwalk Bullet.
As someone who lives roughly 7 minutes away from Shivering Timbers, I've ridden it seemingly thousands of times and it got boring. Michigan's Adventure was much better before Cedar Point bought it.
My dad took me here when I was 11 and I almost flew out of the Wolverine Wildcat wooden coaster because I was too thin for the restraints. I had to grasp onto the lap bar to stay in.
nice to see the first two airtime hills on Wolverine Wildcat got retracked... now they just gotta do the last 4 😂 also it's not a PTC, it's a Dinn based on a PTC (phoenix)
When you ride this, YOU NEED TO TRY THE BACK ROW!!!! It’s a crazy experience. It feels like a 3 minute car crash. It shouldn’t be legal but it’s insane. It’s so bad that it’s funny and your screaming the entire time
I just made my first visit on Memorial Day weekend! Nice little park, especially for our small family. The new Camp Snoopy is great! I think I overhyped Shivering Timbers just a bit. Still an amazing woodie and top 10%. Extremely rough tho. Some of the roughest moments I’ve ever experienced. The SLC was absolute trash. Pleasantly surprised with WW and the retracking
I'm from Indianapolis and was at this park some years back and this was a great coaster for sure. I need to get to Holiday World and ride their coasters still.
Hey it's my home park! Wolverine Wildcat was the first ground up coaster from the Dinn Corporation, built in 1988. If RMC tries to ruin it they'll have to get through me first! I live about 2 hours from MA and 3 hours from CP and I choose MA over CP all the time. Not because of the extra drive, but because MA is more fun. Shivering Timbers is WAY better than ANY ride at CP so whats the Point (pun intended) of going to CP and fighting the crowd to ride inferior rides? I like how much ride variety there is at CP but pretty much everytime i go about half their rides are closed and the other half have 2 hour lines. Its better to drive another hour and go all the way to Kings Island for better op's and a better coaster collection. But again, Shivering Timbers is WAY better than anything at that park also...
Kinda unrelated, but Phoenix is one of the biggest cities in the US, and our closest "real" theme parks are Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm, which are both around 6 hours from here. That is until Barbie Land ™️ opens up here next year. It's gonna nearly double the number of roller coasters within an hour of my house. ...by adding two more.
As you can see, my voice was in shambles this vlog. But I still pulled through for you guys, so I hope you can appreciate the effort. I apologize for the lack of quality you can usually expect 🙏🏻
Standing airtime… reminds me of Wildcats revenge and iron Gwazi as I got standing airtime on both, ur thighs will hurt like hell if you get standing airtime on a rmc
Considering the fact that it only has a 107’ drop and is 5,383’ of track; Shivering Timbers is one efficient roller coaster indeed.
It looks absolutely colossal, like a wooden hypercoaster. There's nothing to visually compare it to, I guess.
@@MattMcIrvin The Voyage. Holiday World.
@MattMcIrvin it rides like a wooden version of intimidator at carowinds!
@@Thestuffnope seems like the 3rd best in america below the voyage and el toro.
Shivering Timbers is sorely underrated. More people need to ride it.
I think most people rode Timbers 20 years ago and have since forgotten how good it is.
Right?!
it's kinda been overshadowed by Voyage lol
So, way back in 1998 (I was 30 at that time), Shivering Timbers opened with an amazing debut. ACE had a coaster event at Michigan’s Adventure on that day, and many of us waited in line for hours while the State of Michigan and CCI finished their final walk-around and inspection.
Many people who were there on that day will argue, without question, I might add, Shivering Timber’s debut in 1998 is one of the greatest roller coaster debuts of all time.
I will never forget the rider reactions of the first trains that stopped on the final brakes, screaming and hollering with appreciation. It was electric! The entire ride experience was, still to this day, one of the best roller coaster experiences of my life.
I went that year as well...Went back years later after the reprofile and it was still great..
And then, Cedar Fair came in and destroyed any possibility of the park improving.
@Ross Hudson they've done a little bit. But not enough unfortunately.
This is my home park! Fun fact: Shivering Timbers was ranked 2nd top wood roller coaster for golden ticket award 5 straight years in a row! I agree with you when most of the time I would rather drive to Kings Island or Cedar Point and I'm in the Grand Rapids area. But they have been improving the park with small things the past few years. So hopefully a big investment is on the horizon! And yes attendance is low at times ,but in the past when they had a huge investment like Thunderhawk and Grand Rapids they had record high attendance both years they came out. So I feel a large investment is most likely within 1 to 3 years, A Vekoma sit down coaster is my bet for the next coaster here. It's rather cheap and probably could get one like at Energylandia or the one at Legendia. both only cost 11 million. which is only 1 million more than the Thunderhawk investment 16 years ago. Also I strongly believe the next coaster will be the park's biggest investment ever. And this year they finally added halloween weekends finally!
this is the best wooden coaster iev ever ridden , I only rode this about 57 times, but loved every second .best ride in the park about 25 years back
I saw this under construction when i was 9. I will never forget it. For me, its always been the Millennium Force of wood coasters. Or maybe the Magnum, or maybe Ttd. Idk its underrated forsure
The thing is is that Michigan's Adventure is actually extremely popular with locals mostly because you pay one still somewhat reasonable price and you get the excellent water park as well. One of the main reasons Cedarfair does not do any capital investment in Michigan's Adventure isn't because it's competition, but that it continuously operates in the black so therefore they don't need to do anything other than basic maintenance on it. Considering if you live in the Grand Rapids and Muskegon area near Michigan's Adventure which also isn't very far from Lansing the state capital all of those are only an hour to two hours away whereas Cedar Point is 4 1/2 to 6 hours away from any of those places. Yes CPT is a huge big crazy Park with excellent rides butt the lines are insane nowadays and to make it actually doable you have to spend multiple days or a lot of money on skip the line passes. Michigan's Adventure is a very cost-effective way to enjoy summer Amusements because the waterpark is excellent and there is Shivering Timbers which is arguably a world-class wooden coaster. It's one of Cedar Fair's jewels in it's crown and it's one of the reasons why Michigan's Adventure as long as it continues to operate in the black will stay open but unfortunately will not get the attention it deserves from Cedar Fair. I think they would benefit from an RMC Raptor. I'm not sure Wolverine Wildcat merits the RMC treatment and I certainly hope they never do it to Shivering Timbers though I'd love to see Titan track on all of Wolverine Wildcat and I wouldn't mind that with Shivering Timbers either because it's really struggling now getting rougher and rougher despite the retracting that it has had in the past. Yes I'm from Michigan and technically I've been to Cedar Point and Michigan's Adventure roughly equal numbers of times and well worth the Cedar Fair company season pass if you're in central to Southern Michigan... but even from the Detroit metro area Cedar Point is a bit of a haul. It's just far enough away to be difficult to go there do the park and then come back and one day and I would say nearly impossible nowadays. Backward in the park was cheaper in the lines weren't as long with a couple of coasters less it was way more worth it to do quick trips so I know that a lot of my friends have opted to go to Michigan's Adventure instead especially ones with kids since they opened up Camp Snoopy. I hope that Cedar Fair realizes that sends Cedar Point is so crazy busy that they need to add capital investment into Michigan's Adventure. I know that the locals would gladly pay more for a few good roller coasters other than Shivering Timbers because right now it's the only truly unique thing at the park.
I always thought that it would benefit from an RMC Raptor. I think they'd be wasting their time are emceeing Wolverine Wildcat but then again I don't know they've done some pretty good small jobs but certainly it could benefit from Titan track through the whole ride. I don't want them to touch Shivering Timbers other than possibly Titan track the whole thing. It's perfect as it is but it does tend to get incredibly rough quickly after any of the retracting that's been done and I think that's because it's a Speed Demon. The ride doesn't slow down for a second to the entire thing and that's got to take its toll on a track. I suppose I could possibly get better trains too but but never said they ever mess with it too much. The profile of it as you pull into the parking lot is astonishing. Probably one of the best amusement park front yards ever. It's amazing that it's longer than the entire length of their pretty size of a parking lot. By the way love your thumbnail excellent shot of it
So, if a park operates in the black, don't do anything? Are you saying that all Cedar Fair parks that get new investments are operating in the red? I live in Michigan and don't want to go there since the newest coaster is a crappy, relocated SLC. Maybe, if we're lucky, we'll get Railblazer in 10 years when they close CGA.
@@rossh688 I didn't bother to go into detail but since you mentioned it here you go you get the long essay and I'm not going to bother to edit or double-check any of the typos or autocorrect cuz I'm too tired . First off I was only talking about Michigan and what you said is not exactly what I said but I feel your pain and just so you know I'm from Michigan to even though I don't live there currently, I will move back there one day sooner than later.
It's an interesting situation, they could have just bought the park and sold it to get rid of the competition but the thing is it was profitable enough for them to keep it yet not big enough to be a competition. They have made major investments in it just no huge major new ride. They've just brought it up to Cedar Fair standards and brought it in line with their other smaller parks. Unfortunately none of these things we're mostly meant for adults as it was aimed at families something that Cedar Point itself hasn't been really great at until more recently. I'm pretty sure that they will do more now that the pandemic is over. Like making a train go around the lake and putting something like a drop tower or another relocated coaster perhaps the flying coaster since Cedar Point doesn't have one of those added to the other side of the park to Anchor that path. I do think that we will get a bigger investment there, something I'd like to call a small big one which will likely be giving the RMC treatment to Wildcat or like you say a railblazer though I doubt it'll be the one from CGA cuz that's likely a Dozen Years out, which would likely go on the back end of the park on the other side of the lake. If you look at ariel maps and do some research you will see that cedarfair has been slowly creeping around the lake and preparing what looks to be the future of the park.
Cedar Fair and pretty much dominates the all of the Great Lakes now because think about it they bought Canada's Wonderland they bought Kings Island Geauga Lake Etc and the only one of those Parks if they got rid of was the one that was the most difficult to deal with and had the least amount of return on its investment, though they tried. Don't forget there was a Marine Mammal Park attached to Geauga Lake which was extremely difficult to keep profitable and didn't fire hawk come from there? They essentially gutted it for parts and sold it too far more profitable real estate Developers . They kept the two good ones and use that money to invest in them I eat Kings Island and Cedar Point itself . The thing is you've got to think big and and decades timescales when analyzing this kind of thing. It also helps that you actually look at the figures that they do release. Before Cedar Fair the owners of Michigan's Adventure were smart by building a massive iconic roller coaster like shivering Timbers building a pretty decent Waterpark especially for a regional one then slapping the two parks for one price on it. It's something that if cedarfair ever got rid of their would-be mutiny but also the amusement park side just doesn't have enough on its own to separate them yet and frankly why bother they don't have to despite how badly we'd like it. As I said I don't live in Michigan currently. I live near Birmingham Alabama and they have a local park here that's similar it's mostly decent Waterpark with a small amusement park attached to it and only one major coaster with not much else. It works just fine as it is so aside from cosmetic improvements and maintenance they don't do s***. The thing is two and a half hours away from here is Six Flags Over Georgia near Atlanta plus the Funspot there has added a ground-up RMC and also not too far from us is Dollywood perhaps 6 to 8 hours on a great drive through Chattanooga something that a lot of people from this area do. Also on the Gulf Coast some company built from the ground up a small decent amusement park. I see Michigan's Adventure in a similar position where unless it gets extremely busy or starts dying off Cedar Fair really isn't going to do much other than slow small incremental movements with an occasional perhaps once every 6 to 7 years Maybe big bump.
There was a time that I thought that the lines at Cedar Point we're getting so obnoxious that they would definitely invest more in Michigan's Adventures simply to siphon off some of it but they've already done that with Kings Island which in itself can get pretty busy but nothing like Cedar Point. That seems to have changed. All of the bloggers that I see at Cedar Point this year including theme park worldwide right as we speak which surprisingly seem to trim off a side trip to ride shivering Timbers if you look at his travel map it's pretty obvious you had to trim off a little fat, anyway my point was to your point just doesn't look as busy as normal. However what it does look like as manageable. My guess is that people are holding off going there until next year when dragster reopens. I'm also guessing that Michigan's Adventures going to have a bumper year because why go to Cedar Point this year when there's going to be something new next year. Why so many people including myself say that Michigan's Adventure doesn't get lots of huge investments in it because it's running in the black? It's a cash cow for Cedar Point and help support the parks in the chain that aren't doing so well perhaps that year and by not doing significant capital investment other than making it in line with their other parks they also control any potential serious competition with themselves as well as keeping other corporations from buying it that would be real competition.
I remember how excited we were and scared at the same time when Cedar Fair bought Michigan's Adventure. We thought for sure it was either going to get torn down or on the outside that it was going to be completely renovated adding something new and big because Cedar Point was running out of room to invest in. What we got was something in between the two. Cedar Point will never sell Michigan's Adventure as is. They would sell off the parts like shivering Timbers and the water slides Etc then sell it to a real estate or apartment developer. This is exactly what they did with Geauga Lake. Michigan's Adventure had another problem similar to Geauga Lake had as it got bigger. There is also another issue that never gets mentioned and that is the road infrastructure in the area around the park. If you look at Cedar Fair's other parks you'll notice already built in road infrastructure to support huge crowds coming to it. The Whitehall area hasn't exactly been Cooperative with Cedar Point on this front. I don't know a lot about it but if you do the research by digging into quarterly reports and the politics surrounding all of it you'll get a pretty good understanding of why I said what I did and why so many other people say the same. Not to worry it's not going anywhere but don't count on them doing too much and when they do count on them doing it slowly. For now they wanted to capture the families and one day as families get a little older they go to Cedar Point. That seems to be their grand plan. Hopefully my theory is as clear as mud. Personally I think Cedar Fair wants you to buy a season pass and go to all their parks in the area
Wow.
Thanks for the video. Shivering Timbers looks like a fantastic wood coaster. I am from Pennsylvania so I most likely will never get to see this park. Many people bad mouth it because as you said Cedar Fair only maintains the park with little new investment. However those two wooden coasters you showed look great. That Shivering Timbers coaster is really different because of those major hills on the outbound part of the run are unmatched from any other coasters I have ridden. I love wooden coasters and rode all the ones we have in PA as well as many others around the country but I am sorry I never have been able to get to this park. The other nice thing you mentioned was the lack of long lines. I hate waiting too long to ride any coaster. It looks like at this park you can get multiple rides in without waiting too long.
Shivering Timbers is the one that made me love roller coasters. It's a fantastic ride, and it is the true King of airtime. I love Steel Vengeance, but it's airtime doesn't compare to this one. I rode Timbers 5 times the first time I ever rode coasters. I seriously love that thing.
I still love Timbers, though it's gotten a lot rougher. Having ridden Steel Vengeance again, it's still my #1. And, I would say the airtime of Steel Vengeance matches if not beats Timbers. That said, Timbers is still an absolute gem. With some retracking it will be phenomenal again, and be rid of the jackhammering.
I found the ride to be surreal. Some hills seemed genuinely poorly graded, but I was crying by the end so I don’t mind too much.
Wow the airtime looks outstanding on shivering Timbers! I think the drive just for this ride is worth it alone because of the succession of airtime hills back to back for 5,000+ feet of track
It's awesome to hear someone talk nicely about Michigan's adventure/shivering timbers. I've been waiting for a new coaster at my home park since thunderhawk. Nice video. I've been going there since the mid90s.
Great video - thank you! We're from Michigan. We mostly go to Cedar Point, but we always make days to go to Michigan's Adventure to ride Timbers. It's an incredible ride! The first time I rode it, I was expecting a long Gemini, but it was more a Mean Streak on steroids. Wildcat is a good ride for variety, but Timbers is our main attraction. I think the water park is the biggest attractor to MI Adventure, and I'd argue that it is better than Cedar Point's water park. But Timbers is what brings us there again and again, being only 2 hours away. Thanks for this video - it is one of the best we've seen about Timbers.
I’ve been going to mi adventures for over 10 years and I got to ride shivering Timbers with the trick track. I love it so much even though Michigans adventure is small and gets neglected it’s still alot of fun imo.
So glad someone mentioned the former trick track. I only rode this a few times back in 2005 from England when that was still in situ. Shame they removed that unique old style feature.
That first ride was better than any loop metal track coaster anywhere. Just a good old fashion take your stomach ride.
My favorite wooden coaster ever!
That coaster is nothing but hill after hill after hill! Not an imaginative layout, but it certainly looks extremely thrilling and exciting! Nothing wrong with that! The backseat is probably the best one on this one. Awesome video - loved it!
Wow!! I am prepared to declare this the King of Coasters and I have never ridden the ride. I have ridden the Comet at Hershey since I was 9 or 10, (I'm 65 now), and Phoenix at Knobels Grove dozens of times. They are my favorites because they are all about the hills. This ride is nothing but hills. Thumbs up and I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for showing it.
It’s called “Shivering Timbers” for a reason. It’s meant to be rough. The countless drops, and the double 360 at the end, make it super underrated.
This is a great coaster, hands down. Incredible design, drops, speed, duration. A real mind-blower.
Dude Timbers looks like it’s hauling this year!
It hits the turns scary fast
Never been on Shivering Timbers but it looks so awesome! Glad you enjoyed it, that jank doesn’t show thru the POV so it’s cool to hear. Also honestly Wolverine Wildcats few bunny hills after the first turnaround i think look great.
Glad to see you had a great day and time with Shivering Timbers. It’s so fun. Finished up with that awesome row 11 ride too! 😉
Your poor voice is shredded, so I hope it's better soon, but it was really cool to see a different park and some coasters I haven't seen before. Thanks so much to you and your brother!
fortunately, it got better quick. thanks for your comment!
Sean is back! We love Sean!
I’m hitting this park up later this summer, so excited for shivering timbers
So ironic you posted this. I drove to Michigan from St Louis last weekend to check this out and it was so worth it!!
Shivering Timbers is definitely on my all time favorites list. The back seat air time is absolutely euphoric!! Also I see they've re tracked a small portion of wolverine wildcat which is good I guess?? Im glad that coaster is slower paced because that thing is RCCA level bumpy. But that's what woodies are for am I right?!😊
I remember someone calling this ride Timber Force, a reference to the Steel Force hyper at Dorney Park. I went to this park twenty years ago. It really is a woodie made for airtime.
It reminds me of Goliath at La Ronde if it were built from wood
I rode Timbers when it was new. It was smooth & insane. I liked it as much/ maybe more than Voyage.
I don’t quite get “weird” & “ janky” describing that fantastic ride.
I'm 5 miles down the road from Michigan's Adventure in North Muskegon, Mi. My daughter and I have ridden this coaster 8 times in a row some days. It's wild! One time it blew my glasses off and the lady behind me was wearing them! Make sure you stow loose items like glasses, phones, and pocket change!
The thing with wolverine wildcat is that the 3 smooth bunny hills in the first half were added this year, im guessing the rest of the coaster is getting a full retrack which would be nice. Great vlog btw, love seeing enthusiasts give my home park a chance
That’s why most people in Michigan go to cedar point. Unless you live in the area where Muskegon is closer odds are CP is a closer park or seen as more worth the drive. I live in metro Detroit and can get to Sandusky in about an hour less. If not doing a road trip why wouldn’t you go to the more well invested park?
Exactly the reason I think they get such minimal investment 😅
I live an hour from MI Adv. But I've been Cedar Point more times
Mi adv started as a petting zoo and it still is. It's for families with young children and when the children become teenagers and get the hormones and all that, you start going to Cedar Point. That's the Real Michigan Adventure. Also I'm pretty sure that 90 percent of the people in Detroit have never even heard of MI Adventure. Cedar Point is basically a suburb of Detroit.
No 2 hour lines at MA though
Great review of the park.
100% Correct - It feels like there is a next level potential just waiting to be tapped.
Allot of the park you can tell they are still maintaining very well but the place needs that one more GOOD coaster.
I love this coaster myself - Shivering timbers is definitely a EXCELLENT standout coaster IMO. If it was smoother it would be forgetful imo - just enough to keep you on edge with all the air time and speed but not so bad that you don’t want to rife again.
You really did a great job with this vlog despite your voice, that’s a sign of toughness and dedication, anyways, I haven’t been to the park since 2016 (at age 13, and only during my second season as a full-time coaster enthusiast on our way to see family members outside of Detroit) and yes, it’s in dead last place in terms of Cedar Fair parks, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad park at all. Yes, it does feel a little neglected, but I liked the wooded atmosphere in certain portions, and lake in the center, and it does need improvement, but it isn’t meant to be that thrilling park at all. From what I remember, Shivering Timbers was a great ride, but I need to give this park a revisit, but not until I take an enthusiast friend there for their first time on a Midwest trip.
It’s astonishing how little Cedar Fair puts into this park considering the metro area the park is located in is about 1 million people. It’s not that far from Cedar Point, but if you look at the metro area of Columbus, Ohio it’s located almost half way between Cedar Point and King’s Island. Detroit and Toledo are about half way between these two parks and you’ll likely see a bunch of people who will go to both parks just like a lot of people from Columbus go to both parks.
Since they spent over 5 million dollars on re-tracks, coaster re-paint, and other park improvements. it’s safe to say they aren’t getting a new coaster or RMC in the near future. I think water park upgrades including a new wave pool are next on the list.
Honestly... Ive been drooling over them fixing up this park for years now. YES! Wildcat should be RMC'd I really feel they should have GCI re-do S.T. maybe even change the layout at the first turn. But keep it wooden. They also have a ton of land behind wildcat they could Easily add brand new/Better coasters. But we'll see what the future holds for M.A.
Change the layout of the first turn?
You mean ruin one of the greatest moments of lateral forces in the world?
That is crazy talk.
RMC? What does it mean?
Glad someone gives this ride credit! I love Shivering Timbers, top 5 out of my 110 credits.
Two parks for the price of one. Fun. Fun. Please look up the old commercials!
Wolverine wildcat literally has 3 different personalities now
I know exactly what you're talking about with it feeling like it's going to derail. I think it's because there's so much space between the main wheels and the up-stop wheels that every airtime moment the trains kind of slam up into the up-stop wheels. it's such a bizarre feeling. sometimes you can feel no wheels touching at all. like the trains are just floating off the track, like literally.
That feeling used to freak me out so much on this ride.
I rode wolverine wildcat last year in the front and the second valley was the single roughest moment of any coaster Ive ever ridden (out of 464). I had to re adjust my idea of what woodie roughness was. That whole section was retracked and reprofiled this off-season - be glad you missed it!!!
Quality and smooth videography on the coaster.
as my home park, I still surprisingly haven’t ridden Shivering Timbers, but the next time I go, I for sure will ride it!
Agreed. They should refresh the park!! I'm one that has always went to Cedar Point and I live in Michigan.
13:19 as a Michigander, can confirm, I would much rather make the 3 hour drive to Sandusky to go to Cedar Point than the 2 hour drive to Muskegon to go to Michigan’s Adventure.
Cedar point is awesome, but damn is it so much busier.
@@playdiscgolf1546 Yea, that’s the downside to a bigger park like Cedar Point. I don’t make it there that often so I make sure to get fast pass and spend a couple days so I can make sure I get to ride everything I want to ride. I guess that is one plus for Michigan’s Adventure, with it only having one ride actually worth making the trip out there to ride.
Great video! Actually seems like a good park! You said you were in Toledo after the video was filmed so I'm guessing you're going to cedar point again!
Putting this coaster on my bucket list.
You should have seen this park before Cedar Fair got it - talk about reinvention. They've done wonders what what was there already. The reality is it's already been reinvented and then some. Hope it continues it's slow crawl to worthwhile!
Im from Michigan. I remember taking my first trip to Michigans Adventure. It was very underwhelming because we had been to cedar point first. So we are planning it right. Taking my kiddos to michigans adventure first.
Thanks for that last car view. Most coasters are more intense in the back.
Cedar Fair will never invest in it. Shivering Timbers would have never been built by CF.
I have ridden Shivering Timbers many times and love it. I am not sure why you think it's weird. It's just an out and back with a ton of really good airtime hills.
Him saying “it’s weird” 17 times, was weird. Lol
So I rode Shivering Timbers for the first time this year and it is easily a top 10 woodie in the US and from my perspective better than Mystic Timbers. Incredible coaster. It will be interesting to see if they put GCI Titan track on parts of it.
I agree that it’s better than Mystic Timbers
Nice vlog Marc. ST is definitely a great ride, but that was about all that I really enjoyed. I felt that the park was dead too and lacked the atmosphere that every other CF park except maybe parts of Dorney that got “cedar faired” in the late 90s (concrete midways and boring buildings). Also, it was good to see Wildcat received some track work. I rode near the middle/back of the train and it was definitely my least favorite major coaster I’ve done. It looked like the track hadn’t had any work done in ages. Hopefully they’ll do what they did with Timberwolf and GCI retrack the whole ride in sections until it’s smooth. The park was good for what it is, but really lacks compared to even the lower tier CF parks. This park would be under everyone’s radar without ST.
Well said Brody. Thanks for watching!
That might just be the best coaster in the world.
Cedar Fair ignoring the Timbers is a crime, I would love to see RMC work their magic on it.
I’m down the lake a bit from this park but I have fond memories of this park and this coaster.
I rose it last summer for the first time. The front row is super rough, not what you would expect. As it rises into each hill it jolts you, as if you just hit a pothole on the road. Back row was pretty fun though
ive never been to michigans adventure but I still defend it anyway cause i feel like the hate is most likely overblown (just like la ronde, which i have been too, very fun)
It certainly is. This is by no means a bad amusement park, as long as Shivering Timbers is running. I do firmly believe it’s the saving grace to one’s visit, though there’s other nice qualities of Michigan’s Adventure too. I think it gets the hate it does because of it’s overwhelming potential and lack of quality relative to other Cedar Fair amusement parks.
@@CoasterDash oh yeah agreed, tbh I hope wildcat gets gravity group treatment, that or RMC but they keep the first half cause the first bit looks really fun
People bash it because it’s small and CF doesn’t treat it with the esteem of other parks. Probably because 1. Muskegon is a small market. And 2. They don’t want MA taking too much market share from those who might go to Cedar Point from that area.
it's been around since 1998 nobody hurt yet fun ride isn't it I love it
Shivering looks amazing!!!
We took a class trip to Michigan's Adventure in the late 90's. It was my first time on a Rollercoaster. I remember liking Shivering Timbers and the corkscrew but HATING that other wooden coaster. I had a massive headache getting off it it was so rough.
It's nice to see the place again!
Yoooo they retracked the first drop. Kudos to you for getting out to two of the most legendary woodies back to back.
Glad you got to come to my great state hope you have fun at the park.
Classic coasters are my fave! Thanks for the ride!
That looks like some serious negative Gs.
Meanwhile, after moving to Texas, I discovered Kemah's Boardwalk Bullet. Out of control, lots of dips and turns, crammed into a tiny space so it's more intense.
I urge people to avoid my former home state, California. It's collapsing quickly. If you ignore my plea, there's Santa Cruz's Giant Dipper, which throws you out of your seat much like Shivering Timbers; and Buena Park Knott's Ghost Rider, even more out of control than the Boardwalk Bullet.
MA is the last stop of my Cedar Fair east coast tour. hitting up Dorney, KD, Carowinds, KI and MA. Yes, hit Cedar Point separately.
I'm going there for the first time next week. Im really hoping everything will be open and the weather will be good!
Wishing you luck! Enjoy your stay.
Great footage and welcome to michigan. I think you forgot thunder hawk. That ride is the best in my park in my opinion
Good to see ya
The problem with Thunderhawk is that some days it is really smooth but other days it can be really rough.
As someone who lives roughly 7 minutes away from Shivering Timbers, I've ridden it seemingly thousands of times and it got boring. Michigan's Adventure was much better before Cedar Point bought it.
My dad took me here when I was 11 and I almost flew out of the Wolverine Wildcat wooden coaster because I was too thin for the restraints. I had to grasp onto the lap bar to stay in.
Was on the corkscrew back in the 70's, 80's at Knotts Berry Farm.
I got a crazy ride on ST before, end of the day, fully warmed up and it started raining... was extra fast and crazy.
nice to see the first two airtime hills on Wolverine Wildcat got retracked... now they just gotta do the last 4 😂
also it's not a PTC, it's a Dinn based on a PTC (phoenix)
I would love this coaster!!!!!!
When you ride this, YOU NEED TO TRY THE BACK ROW!!!! It’s a crazy experience. It feels like a 3 minute car crash. It shouldn’t be legal but it’s insane. It’s so bad that it’s funny and your screaming the entire time
You're not wrong, the coaster does seem like El Toro from a distance.
Me rewatching to see her hair as an airtime indicator🥸🥸🥸
I just made my first visit on Memorial Day weekend! Nice little park, especially for our small family. The new Camp Snoopy is great! I think I overhyped Shivering Timbers just a bit. Still an amazing woodie and top 10%. Extremely rough tho. Some of the roughest moments I’ve ever experienced. The SLC was absolute trash. Pleasantly surprised with WW and the retracking
I didnt find Shivering Timbers to be so bad on a non-wheel seat. But it’s far from smooth at the same time. It’s a very bouncy ride!
We get it O MY GOD
Now that's a true coaster.
I go to Michigan’s Adventure once a week
I'm from Indianapolis and was at this park some years back and this was a great coaster for sure. I need to get to Holiday World and ride their coasters still.
Shivering Timbers is like a better verison of the Voyage. Instead of all those stupid forceless turns on the return trip its just airtime.
Hey it's my home park!
Wolverine Wildcat was the first ground up coaster from the Dinn Corporation, built in 1988.
If RMC tries to ruin it they'll have to get through me first!
I live about 2 hours from MA and 3 hours from CP and I choose MA over CP all the time.
Not because of the extra drive, but because MA is more fun.
Shivering Timbers is WAY better than ANY ride at CP so whats the Point (pun intended) of going to CP and fighting the crowd to ride inferior rides?
I like how much ride variety there is at CP but pretty much everytime i go about half their rides are closed and the other half have 2 hour lines.
Its better to drive another hour and go all the way to Kings Island for better op's and a better coaster collection.
But again, Shivering Timbers is WAY better than anything at that park also...
surely shivered my timbers
(haven't been to michigan's adventure)
We are not gonna talk about how my mom almost died on shivering Timbers she screamed for dear life and lost her voice🙄😑🤦🏽♀️
My daughter worked at michigan adventure. It was a great 1st job. She worked there for 5 years
Thanks!
Thanks for the dono Michael!
@@CoasterDash You're welcome!
Record number of "OMG!"
I love Shivering Timbers ❤
Shivering Timbers = wooden magnum
Omg... That's so correct!!!!
The new name for this ride is "OH MY GOD"
Welcome to my home town
The park is fine just Taylor is just butt hurt cause they didn't kiss his feet plus shivering timbers was closed
absolutely correct
Kinda unrelated, but Phoenix is one of the biggest cities in the US, and our closest "real" theme parks are Disneyland and Knott's Berry Farm, which are both around 6 hours from here.
That is until Barbie Land ™️ opens up here next year. It's gonna nearly double the number of roller coasters within an hour of my house. ...by adding two more.
I hope the guy yelling, "Oh my god!" survived because I wasn't sure he was going to.