Thanks, just got a dual oc 4070 and going to see if I can get away with some more perf. Also, I never saw a video on this channel, but Ian I LOVE the way you do the videos and you've made me instantly subscribe!
Everyone’s hating on the 4070 but I got one and at Msrp none the less, the fact that it uses less power to deliver the same performance as a 3080 and has 12gb of vram I think it’s a good gpu that should hopefully last a nice long while until something else comes along at msrp assuming scalpers don’t start there nonsense again. 😂
@@davidfrazier6308 Not really. 16Gb is still 16GB, AMD cards just let the system reserve more. That's why it always looks like AMD cards use 1-2Gb more VRAM than Nvidia cards do.
Yes! I was shocked about that too. The TUF OC is by far the best custom design for the first batch of RTX4070 cards (most silent and efficient cooler). But 200$ for that alone? I don't know. You can get a 4070ti for the same price.
Yeah. I looked around and duel fans were between £100-200 cheaper. Needless to say I got the duel fan one. Moving up from a GTX1080 to a RTX4070. A little burned but with inflation my 1080 would have cost between £600-650 so not toooo hurt but still… £589 for a 70 version is horrible.
ill stick with my 3080 12gb strix bought for 690usd new on marketplace, undervolted it 1965mhz .875mv +500 memclock and scored 19546 in timespy, overclock score 20599
There is little or no incentive for you to do anything else the generational uplift (if any in certain cases) does not stack up taking all into account, I'm an even more extreme case hanging on to my GTX 980ti which had bearing failures on two fans so I removed all 3, and now have 2 x 120mm case fans strapped on with cable ties which work surprisingly well. I can live with 1080p Ultra for now its not just the cost ,its the principle, with this screw you we can get away with anything because you have no choice attitude from NVidea. Hope Intel can get a firmer foothold to create a more competitive market with ARC and in particular higher tier GPUs . AMD are looking far more attractive than a few years ago so that can only be a good thing ( in theory of course )
@@PLEYOR I think there's certainly a market for it though because it has a low power draw and should therefore have better thermal scores. I like to get hardware that doesn't run too hot or use too much electricity, it tends to last longer. Hoping to double up a 4070 with a ryzen 7900 for a power efficient rig that has good if not amazing gaming performance.
Biggest selling point for me was the power usage, on all the games I play FPS was up and the power usage dropped by 100watts on average, in comparison to the 2080 super it replaced
The temperature of the Dual model is the same as the Tuf model? I thought that the temperature of the tuf model with 3 fans would be lower, will I be able to optimize the temperature of the dual model like it did in the tuf model to reach 51°?
even tho they both might get the same temperature, they definitely wont get the same frame rate, im sure the triple fan one is getting the same temps but at a higher fps
I know you showed the memory speed and clocks at 12:23, but how much did you increase the core clock on afterburner? I just got an open box 4070 for $480 and am trying to test for stability before my 14 day return period is over.
No real room for overclocking given the single 8-pin, that's 225W board power max. These cards would easily get in the way of more priciers ones otherwise, but that's still 8% for free.
I think it's a good choice for those who want an energy efficient/low energy rig (that can still perform well for new games), but there are better choices for those who want peak performance.
It is a great card. But the pricing is a let down. Specially when it couldn't even trump the 3080. The wattage though is pretty good at 200w that's like 3060 ti max power usage with a 3080 like performance. Nvidia really though shot themselves on the foot. Big time. Put simply they kept the 30 series cards pricing so high for so long that stocks remained unsold. Now with the 40 series coming out. Its hard to lower the price of say the 4070 when it can affect unsold 30 series card pricing from retailers. If they cut 4070 pricing. The consumers will not buy 30 series cards no more unless there is a substantial price cut. And if they price cut 30 series card. They will have a huge net loss. Who's fault is this? Nvidia's. This was probably why EVGA called it quits and left the gpu game. Imagine if they further drop the 4070 price from 599 to 499 or 449. It will affect not only 4060 pricing. The 3080's unsold from retailers and the cards below it like 3070 and 3060 ti will also have to have a price cut. It's a dirty chain reaction that nvidia got themselves into.
@@neilmcewan2664 the prices make sense to me. Nvidia is going to price it exactly as high you are ready to buy it (not you personally but consumer in general). And people still buy. And they will. No more cheap gpus in foreseeable future
Anybody knows why are the values locked (MSI afterburner...) and I can't modify anything about this GPU? GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 12GB GDDR6X OC (obviously) MB: ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI
after I sold my gaming pc with RTX4090 and 13700K. i am very happy with ps5 and series x. games look good. Run well and no shader stuttering. You can't get any better in terms of price and you also save electricity. I will not switch back to the pc. just building was fun.
Pretty much same spec as mine, but i sold my 4090 to my brother and settled for 4080 both Strix. On my PS5 only exclusives. Night and day different comparing 40 Series especially top tier like ROG to consoles
The overclocking for 16 pin cards should be higher. The cards are both running into the maximum wattage they can get supplied through the cord and slot combined. Plus NVDA also put a wattage draw limit on the cards themselves. None of them have managed to get a single tick over 220 across any review.
Not sure about that. I have the Gigabyte Gaming OC which does have the 16-pin connector and an insanely high max power target (320 W, IIRC). Even with my most ambitious overclock so far (~3000 MHz on the GPU, +1000MHz on VRAM) and power limit set to max, the card never draws more than 240 - 245 Watts on my system. I found a couple of reviews that report the same thing for this particular card. My card will constantly hit the voltage-limit at these settings.
Upgraded from a 3070 to a 4070 recently, and now I'm wondering if I have too much of a CPU bottleneck with my i5-12600K. That said: The card performs admirably. What I will say though is that compared to previous gens, the generational uplift (or lack thereof) is a bit disappointing. My 3070 for example was faster than a 2080 Ti while the 4070 just barely surpasses the 3080 (depending on the benchmark). I haven't pushed it beyond 3000 MHz - but close to it - and it runs stable at those speeds. And all that while drawing, basically, the same amount of power as my 3070 did. At stock or with both cards running undervolted and midly overclocked, the 4070 is actually quite a bit more frugal than the 3070. I did upgrade to a bequiet! Straight Power 12, 750W ATX 3.0 PSU (my Gigabyte Gaming OC does have the new connector), but even with my previous Seasonic Focus+ Gold 550W, both cards ran flawlessly. So unless you have a more powerful CPU than I do, I'm not even sure you'd really need more power than 550/600W for the 4070. Even Techpowerup seems to agree on that, since they do recommend a 550W PSU for the 4070. Only reasons I upgraded were to get a proper 16-pin connector, to have some headroom for a CPU-upgrade and because I run a lot of peripherals on this PC for VR flight-simming.
he was only showing the thermal temps, but not what fps they were getting while being at that temp, surely with a bigger and 3 fans the tuf triple one will get u more fps and have the same temp as the dual but with lesser fps (dual)
it is so good card that i will buy 6800xt and get more longevity with 16gb of vram because 12gb cards will start to be obsolete 2024 same as now are 3070/ti with 8gb of vram
don't be a lemming! use your brain! the majority of 16GB cards are all AMD and AMD only has a tiny bit of overall GPU marketshare add to that the only cards over 16GB are ALL over one thousand dollars. Unless you are planning on playing at 4k this 12GB limit won't be an issue under 4k. Publishers aren't going to want to push out games that only 8% of all consumers can play comfortably. Seriously, think about it....and yes...I know there are some ports that are pushing the limits but most, if not all, of them are also badly ported console games. I will say 12GB is shaping up to be the new ceiling for VRAM at 2k however. Until a LOT more people have 16GB cards I'm pretty sure 12GB should be good...at least for 1440p gaming Note: the 7700XT is also supposed to be a 12GB card. That said....the 4070 had another positive effect in that AMD lowered the price of the 6950 and 6800. I'm waiting for black friday sales to see if I can't just score a super nice deal.
@@Mr11ESSE111 but amds vram 16gb is equal to 12 of Nivida's bc the almost perfected compressing vram amd has not plus where Invidia's dlss is getting so good it drops vram usage and increases fps with far better quality than amd so if amd gets to where they got to rely on upscaling its gonna hurt amd users bad
6950xt much better option and can be had for £570 around £100 less for a better card for most applications, and I can't believe I'm saying this after 20 years of using team blue
So, this will work with my old power supply? I have a EVGA 1000 GQ gold PSU. I do don't need to upgrade to another PSU with smart detection? thank you for your help and time.
@@pdmerritt So, don't need ATX 3.0? I am confused on this new PSU smart detection stuff that some of the 4000 series needs. (I do not know much about PSU stuff)
@@trickerdgaming The 4070 is really efficient and doesn't ever draw much power so that ATX3.0 simply isn't required. Even with a 4090....if you have a sufficient power supply it shouldn't be necessary. search for this on youtube (Do You Really Need A New ATX 3.0 Certified Power Supply??) it provides a really good explanation
@@trickerdgaming Just a little side note I've used a few EVGA PSU's in builds they are a really good piece of kit , all you need really is a Bronze+ or higher ATX PSU 600 watt +. ( Recommended is 650w ATX 2.0) so you have additional headroom of a least 350 watts the Gold Standard is related to the efficiency of the PSU ie quality of components loss of power due to heat etc and is not as critical. I would also recommend watching other reviews this channel is more about selling the item as opposed to giving proper subjective facts. Independent reviewers are far more likely to do so, not the product retailer, this review is possibly one of the worst I've ever seen, trust me I've watched a lot
I'm freaking confused for the last couple of weeks. I'm willing to buy Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD Advantage. This Laptop has Ryzen 9 6900HX, Radeon RX6850M XT 12 GB GDDR6 Graphic card, 32 gb DDR5 ram, 2 TB SSD. It now costs around 2180 USD (previously it was 2800). Will it be better than 3070ti? or will this gpu equally perform with RTX 4070? And will it be good enough for content creation? And Is it worth for the price? please give me a reply.
do you NEED a laptop? if you have to have a laptop your price range is going to be somewhat limited. If you can live with a desktop then a 6800xt-6950xt is going to be more powerful than it's mobile counterpart. The mobile counterparts are always weaker because of power restraints. Also, the GPU matters for content creation since more software offerings are optimized for Nvidia gpu's and only a few for AMD.
you can't compare a desktop GPU with its PC GPU variant they are way apart. The spec you mention should be fine for content creation the price seems a little high but not far off
4070 is actually replacing the RTX 3080 12gb version for a 200£ lesser MSRP and 200w in place of 320W and not the 499£ 3070. 3080 10gb was 699£ and 3070 ti was 599£ on launch MSRP . For a newer technology RTX 4070 was a disappointment as It should have competed with 3080 Ti performance and should have had a 16gb vRAM and 220 w TDP for current asking price. May be Nvidia will release a version of it later on with an added premium. No doubt that It is good chip, but not a ground breaking Graphics card due to the restricted vRAM capacity.
😅 4070 with so narrow 192 piping mem..bus..! How to play game ..! So laggy. Sorry not interested in 4070 anymore. & its way to weak in gaming 2k vs 3080..
the 4070ti runs pretty much neck and neck with the 3090 using the 192bit bus....so it's DEFINITELY not holding the 4070 back. It's also only slower than the 3080 in some games...not all and even when it's slower it is a very small margin. I'm not the type to really care but I hate when people spread misinformation.
@@pdmerritt You are not helping you are adding to the confusion and misinformation . 320bit bus v 192bit MATTERS ,what the 4070ti can achieve is mostly irrelevant to 4070 there are far too many variables just to link them together in such a manner. PC world describe the 4070ti as "Hobbled and stagnant" with unacceptable performance at higher resolutions and wildly over priced, their review is fairly typical to most reviews on this card. The 4070 is also over priced it does not stand out as much some of the rest of the 4000 series purely due to those GPUs being even more wildly over priced, as a customer and like many others this anti consumer approach is angering, its not because the 4070 is a bad card, its not but Nvideas marketing and costing is bad and their pre launch claims don't hold up to scrutiny their promise of affordable 4k gaming has gone into reverse with 1080 many benchmarking reviews show this clearly. This particular review is pure sales driven cherry picking, actual gaming performance barely gets a mention, its a joke. Until my current GTX 980ti dies I'm no way buying into this debacle, its not just the cost its more principle lets hope the poor sales and better competition drive prices down.
@@pdmerritt a 192bit bus on a 4070 will be holding it back . What a 4070ti can do compared to a 3090 is largely irrelevant to a 4070's performance. What's not to understand ?
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Thanks, just got a dual oc 4070 and going to see if I can get away with some more perf.
Also, I never saw a video on this channel, but Ian I LOVE the way you do the videos and you've made me instantly subscribe!
How is it so far?
Everyone’s hating on the 4070 but I got one and at Msrp none the less, the fact that it uses less power to deliver the same performance as a 3080 and has 12gb of vram I think it’s a good gpu that should hopefully last a nice long while until something else comes along at msrp assuming scalpers don’t start there nonsense again. 😂
I got it also, leaving my 1060 behind.. Still using my psu 550. I dont overcklock, no power issues at all playing games at 1440 p, 165 hz sync.
its not the 4070 its the whole 4000 series which are all totally over priced some more than the 4070 the generational value just is not there
Blender is the thing that catches me. For Videogame performance i could simply pick a RX 6800 XT 16 GB
amg 16 gb is equal to Invidia's 12gb just saying
@@davidfrazier6308 Not really. 16Gb is still 16GB, AMD cards just let the system reserve more. That's why it always looks like AMD cards use 1-2Gb more VRAM than Nvidia cards do.
Thank you for this review and overclock settings. Excited to try oc with the dual oc 4070
I just checked the prices and triple fan one costs almost $200 more in my country compared to the dual fan. $780 for Dual fan and $970 for triple fan.
Yes! I was shocked about that too. The TUF OC is by far the best custom design for the first batch of RTX4070 cards (most silent and efficient cooler). But 200$ for that alone? I don't know. You can get a 4070ti for the same price.
Yes, ASUS have gone crazy with TUF pricing. And I thought Strix was the premium line.
@@marrsil Oh yes, I just checked and 4070ti base variants are around $1000
Yeah. I looked around and duel fans were between £100-200 cheaper. Needless to say I got the duel fan one. Moving up from a GTX1080 to a RTX4070. A little burned but with inflation my 1080 would have cost between £600-650 so not toooo hurt but still… £589 for a 70 version is horrible.
at that point you might aswell save some more for a 4090 which is nvidias trick with their pricing of mid range cards
ill stick with my 3080 12gb strix bought for 690usd new on marketplace, undervolted it 1965mhz .875mv +500 memclock and scored 19546 in timespy, overclock score 20599
Thats like me. Got the Suprim X 12gb 3080 new for $1099 Australian dollars. Running 1830Mhz at 0.800v. Everything else stock.
@@MrIsmaeltaleb85 nice I've stayed in Brisbane last march nice place
There is little or no incentive for you to do anything else the generational uplift (if any in certain cases) does not stack up taking all into account, I'm an even more extreme case hanging on to my GTX 980ti which had bearing failures on two fans so I removed all 3, and now have 2 x 120mm case fans strapped on with cable ties which work surprisingly well. I can live with 1080p Ultra for now its not just the cost ,its the principle, with this screw you we can get away with anything because you have no choice attitude from NVidea. Hope Intel can get a firmer foothold to create a more competitive market with ARC and in particular higher tier GPUs . AMD are looking far more attractive than a few years ago so that can only be a good thing ( in theory of course )
£50 cheaper than a 3080 for similar performance, 2gb more of VRAM and DLSS 3.0 after 2+ years.....hard pass.
Certainly seems a bit cheeky. No doubt this price structure is here to stay though.
@@PLEYOR I think there's certainly a market for it though because it has a low power draw and should therefore have better thermal scores. I like to get hardware that doesn't run too hot or use too much electricity, it tends to last longer. Hoping to double up a 4070 with a ryzen 7900 for a power efficient rig that has good if not amazing gaming performance.
@@BVargas78 exactly and also, the 4070 being new and the 3080 slowly becoming rarer on shelves it isn’t bad.
Biggest selling point for me was the power usage, on all the games I play FPS was up and the power usage dropped by 100watts on average, in comparison to the 2080 super it replaced
@@BVargas78 ofc it has low power draw. It's basically what a 4060ti should be
I thought this was a GPU review, NOT A GUN SHOW.
The 8Pack does it again with a top Video.... The beard is a modern master piece!!!
I thought you could OC it by just flicking the switch, a sort of default OC. Or am I wrong?
Just ordered this from you guys
The temperature of the Dual model is the same as the Tuf model? I thought that the temperature of the tuf model with 3 fans would be lower, will I be able to optimize the temperature of the dual model like it did in the tuf model to reach 51°?
even tho they both might get the same temperature, they definitely wont get the same frame rate, im sure the triple fan one is getting the same temps but at a higher fps
Do you suggest or Asus dual OC ? or the Asus TUF ($70) more? Thanks!
Going for the 13600k with 4070.
MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI DDR5
what did u get?
I know you showed the memory speed and clocks at 12:23, but how much did you increase the core clock on afterburner? I just got an open box 4070 for $480 and am trying to test for stability before my 14 day return period is over.
use furmark or 3d mark for stability tests
No real room for overclocking given the single 8-pin, that's 225W board power max. These cards would easily get in the way of more priciers ones otherwise, but that's still 8% for free.
I think it's a good choice for those who want an energy efficient/low energy rig (that can still perform well for new games), but there are better choices for those who want peak performance.
It is a great card.
But the pricing is a let down. Specially when it couldn't even trump the 3080. The wattage though is pretty good at 200w that's like 3060 ti max power usage with a 3080 like performance.
Nvidia really though shot themselves on the foot. Big time.
Put simply they kept the 30 series cards pricing so high for so long that stocks remained unsold.
Now with the 40 series coming out. Its hard to lower the price of say the 4070 when it can affect unsold 30 series card pricing from retailers.
If they cut 4070 pricing.
The consumers will not buy 30 series cards no more unless there is a substantial price cut.
And if they price cut 30 series card. They will have a huge net loss.
Who's fault is this?
Nvidia's.
This was probably why EVGA called it quits and left the gpu game.
Imagine if they further drop the 4070 price from 599 to 499 or 449. It will affect not only 4060 pricing.
The 3080's unsold from retailers and the cards below it like 3070 and 3060 ti will also have to have a price cut.
It's a dirty chain reaction that nvidia got themselves into.
I'll stick with my 3080 and wait till they get it right. I paid £850 for my 3080 and sold my 1080 for £300 so £550 with my trade in.
You can sell your 3080 and get a 4080 for the same £550 LOL
@@Shadow_banned_by_RUclips itt's insane the prices make no sense.
@@neilmcewan2664 the prices make sense to me. Nvidia is going to price it exactly as high you are ready to buy it (not you personally but consumer in general). And people still buy. And they will. No more cheap gpus in foreseeable future
Wtf is the point when they just keep bringing out newer cards i'll wait and get a 4090 when they bring out a 5090 cheaper
There's no point buying anything they cant get games to run on a top end pc as good as consoles these days.
a comparison between the oc results and the 30 series card would have been nice xD
Anybody knows why are the values locked (MSI afterburner...) and I can't modify anything about this GPU?
GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 12GB GDDR6X OC (obviously)
MB: ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI
after I sold my gaming pc with RTX4090 and 13700K. i am very happy with ps5 and series x. games look good. Run well and no shader stuttering. You can't get any better in terms of price and you also save electricity. I will not switch back to the pc. just building was fun.
Pretty much same spec as mine, but i sold my 4090 to my brother and settled for 4080 both Strix. On my PS5 only exclusives. Night and day different comparing 40 Series especially top tier like ROG to consoles
100% agree with this.
By the way what is 'shader stuttering'?
I can understand why you sold your system and bought a ps5. Enjoy gaming.
@@seizonsha it boggles the mind..4090 can do so much more than a ps5.
The overclocking for 16 pin cards should be higher.
The cards are both running into the maximum wattage they can get supplied through the cord and slot combined.
Plus NVDA also put a wattage draw limit on the cards themselves.
None of them have managed to get a single tick over 220 across any review.
Not sure about that. I have the Gigabyte Gaming OC which does have the 16-pin connector and an insanely high max power target (320 W, IIRC). Even with my most ambitious overclock so far (~3000 MHz on the GPU, +1000MHz on VRAM) and power limit set to max, the card never draws more than 240 - 245 Watts on my system. I found a couple of reviews that report the same thing for this particular card. My card will constantly hit the voltage-limit at these settings.
Upgraded from a 3070 to a 4070 recently, and now I'm wondering if I have too much of a CPU bottleneck with my i5-12600K. That said: The card performs admirably. What I will say though is that compared to previous gens, the generational uplift (or lack thereof) is a bit disappointing. My 3070 for example was faster than a 2080 Ti while the 4070 just barely surpasses the 3080 (depending on the benchmark).
I haven't pushed it beyond 3000 MHz - but close to it - and it runs stable at those speeds. And all that while drawing, basically, the same amount of power as my 3070 did. At stock or with both cards running undervolted and midly overclocked, the 4070 is actually quite a bit more frugal than the 3070. I did upgrade to a bequiet! Straight Power 12, 750W ATX 3.0 PSU (my Gigabyte Gaming OC does have the new connector), but even with my previous Seasonic Focus+ Gold 550W, both cards ran flawlessly. So unless you have a more powerful CPU than I do, I'm not even sure you'd really need more power than 550/600W for the 4070. Even Techpowerup seems to agree on that, since they do recommend a 550W PSU for the 4070. Only reasons I upgraded were to get a proper 16-pin connector, to have some headroom for a CPU-upgrade and because I run a lot of peripherals on this PC for VR flight-simming.
Run the games at 1440 p u should be good but if upgrade to 13600k that's equivalent to 7900x in gaming
I did quite catch the benchmark used for blender. What file was it?
Could use an intro of something cool for such a cool topic! :D
Does the DUAL have the same performance as the TUF?
the same yes
he was only showing the thermal temps, but not what fps they were getting while being at that temp, surely with a bigger and 3 fans the tuf triple one will get u more fps and have the same temp as the dual but with lesser fps (dual)
how tall are you please reply
it is so good card that i will buy 6800xt and get more longevity with 16gb of vram because 12gb cards will start to be obsolete 2024 same as now are 3070/ti with 8gb of vram
don't be a lemming! use your brain! the majority of 16GB cards are all AMD and AMD only has a tiny bit of overall GPU marketshare add to that the only cards over 16GB are ALL over one thousand dollars. Unless you are planning on playing at 4k this 12GB limit won't be an issue under 4k. Publishers aren't going to want to push out games that only 8% of all consumers can play comfortably. Seriously, think about it....and yes...I know there are some ports that are pushing the limits but most, if not all, of them are also badly ported console games. I will say 12GB is shaping up to be the new ceiling for VRAM at 2k however. Until a LOT more people have 16GB cards I'm pretty sure 12GB should be good...at least for 1440p gaming Note: the 7700XT is also supposed to be a 12GB card.
That said....the 4070 had another positive effect in that AMD lowered the price of the 6950 and 6800. I'm waiting for black friday sales to see if I can't just score a super nice deal.
you wont get more head room with amds 16 gig vram its pretty much the same as Invidia's 12 gig's
@@davidfrazier6308 now it is like it was with 8gb vram before but new games comes which eats more and more
@@Mr11ESSE111 but amds vram 16gb is equal to 12 of Nivida's bc the almost perfected compressing vram amd has not plus where Invidia's dlss is getting so good it drops vram usage and increases fps with far better quality than amd so if amd gets to where they got to rely on upscaling its gonna hurt amd users bad
@@Mr11ESSE111 oh and did you see jedi survivor is useing up to 19 gb of vram right now lol but recommended specs is a 2070
16 gigs of amd vram is pretty much 12 gig's of Invidia's vram i cant believe more people dont know this
6950xt much better option and can be had for £570 around £100 less for a better card for most applications, and I can't believe I'm saying this after 20 years of using team blue
So, this will work with my old power supply? I have a EVGA 1000 GQ gold PSU. I do don't need to upgrade to another PSU with smart detection? thank you for your help and time.
it would be more than fine....overkill in fact
@@pdmerritt So, don't need ATX 3.0? I am confused on this new PSU smart detection stuff that some of the 4000 series needs. (I do not know much about PSU stuff)
@@trickerdgaming The 4070 is really efficient and doesn't ever draw much power so that ATX3.0 simply isn't required. Even with a 4090....if you have a sufficient power supply it shouldn't be necessary.
search for this on youtube (Do You Really Need A New ATX 3.0 Certified Power Supply??) it provides a really good explanation
@@pdmerritt Thank you for your help friend :)
@@trickerdgaming Just a little side note I've used a few EVGA PSU's in builds they are a really good piece of kit , all you need really is a Bronze+ or higher ATX PSU 600 watt +. ( Recommended is 650w ATX 2.0) so you have additional headroom of a least 350 watts the Gold Standard is related to the efficiency of the PSU ie quality of components loss of power due to heat etc and is not as critical. I would also recommend watching other reviews this channel is more about selling the item as opposed to giving proper subjective facts. Independent reviewers are far more likely to do so, not the product retailer, this review is possibly one of the worst I've ever seen, trust me I've watched a lot
i boosted my msi trio increasing core clock with 165 and 250 the memory getting 19081 1440p timespy
If you still have the trio than try out +145 and +1000.
Mine does fine with those settings but after 1100mhz on mem you get diminishing results.
@@PhysPushscale Got me a new 4070 ti super from asus. The msi had problems with a fan. But ty for the advice anyway. Maybe someone else will try it.
I'm freaking confused for the last couple of weeks. I'm willing to buy Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD Advantage. This Laptop has Ryzen 9 6900HX, Radeon RX6850M XT 12 GB GDDR6 Graphic card, 32 gb DDR5 ram, 2 TB SSD. It now costs around 2180 USD (previously it was 2800). Will it be better than 3070ti? or will this gpu equally perform with RTX 4070? And will it be good enough for content creation? And Is it worth for the price? please give me a reply.
do you NEED a laptop? if you have to have a laptop your price range is going to be somewhat limited. If you can live with a desktop then a 6800xt-6950xt is going to be more powerful than it's mobile counterpart. The mobile counterparts are always weaker because of power restraints. Also, the GPU matters for content creation since more software offerings are optimized for Nvidia gpu's and only a few for AMD.
you can't compare a desktop GPU with its PC GPU variant they are way apart. The spec you mention should be fine for content creation the price seems a little high but not far off
theres a massive difference between a laptop gpu and an desktop gpu
Test them in games that use 16gb vram
using 12gb vram in a game that uses 16gb of vram? are you ok son of a biatch?!
I think i judged the market right.
Another BAFTA level performance from Pac-man.... The comments below.... These people need to start squatting heavy twice weekly....
8:08
3080Ti better than 3090?
Kinda SuS
4070 is actually replacing the RTX 3080 12gb version for a 200£ lesser MSRP and 200w in place of 320W and not the 499£ 3070. 3080 10gb was 699£ and 3070 ti was 599£ on launch MSRP . For a newer technology RTX 4070 was a disappointment as It should have competed with 3080 Ti performance and should have had a 16gb vRAM and 220 w TDP for current asking price. May be Nvidia will release a version of it later on with an added premium. No doubt that It is good chip, but not a ground breaking Graphics card due to the restricted vRAM capacity.
Get an AMD gpu for same price better deal
Yeah but it’s a AMD gpu… no one wants one of those
@@JoeWayne84 You do not want one of those.
@@JoeWayne84 What’s wrong with AMD?
Amd cards are power hungry. Not even close to performance per watt as Nvidia
@@storiesold3270 Its 2023 not year 2011
What is the Point to show the overclocked card with 80% fan?😅 There is absolutly no Point of Referenc🤣
😅 4070 just another Rubbiiiish item. When 2024 comes with more Raytraching= 4070 can..throooow away again. 5-19% weaker than 3080
12 vram not a good idea
Good content but horrible voice. You can just speak a bit louder and it'll sound just fine
😂 4070 Tuf only 8 pin..low power..use. how to OC.? 😅wasting all our money again
Get a different 4070 with 2 8 pins
if it had 800 pins it would still have no meaningful overclock with such a rigid power limiter
I don't have time for this...
Wow a benchmark or review or whatever you want to call this video without any gaming data????!!! 🤬 lame 😒
😅 4070 with so narrow 192 piping mem..bus..! How to play game ..! So laggy. Sorry not interested in 4070 anymore. & its way to weak in gaming 2k vs 3080..
the 4070ti runs pretty much neck and neck with the 3090 using the 192bit bus....so it's DEFINITELY not holding the 4070 back. It's also only slower than the 3080 in some games...not all and even when it's slower it is a very small margin. I'm not the type to really care but I hate when people spread misinformation.
клоун!
@@pdmerritt You are not helping you are adding to the confusion and misinformation . 320bit bus v 192bit MATTERS ,what the 4070ti can achieve is mostly irrelevant to 4070 there are far too many variables just to link them together in such a manner. PC world describe the 4070ti as "Hobbled and stagnant" with unacceptable performance at higher resolutions and wildly over priced, their review is fairly typical to most reviews on this card. The 4070 is also over priced it does not stand out as much some of the rest of the 4000 series purely due to those GPUs being even more wildly over priced, as a customer and like many others this anti consumer approach is angering, its not because the 4070 is a bad card, its not but Nvideas marketing and costing is bad and their pre launch claims don't hold up to scrutiny their promise of affordable 4k gaming has gone into reverse with 1080 many benchmarking reviews show this clearly. This particular review is pure sales driven cherry picking, actual gaming performance barely gets a mention, its a joke. Until my current GTX 980ti dies I'm no way buying into this debacle, its not just the cost its more principle lets hope the poor sales and better competition drive prices down.
@@simon3225 sorry, I don't get what you're saying here.
@@pdmerritt a 192bit bus on a 4070 will be holding it back . What a 4070ti can do compared to a 3090 is largely irrelevant to a 4070's performance. What's not to understand ?