@ride with roy, i just wanted to thank you for this video. My father underwent chemo therapy two years ago and has been trying to rebuild his stamina after this treatment. I sent him a link to your video and he decided to purchase one. With covid, this has taken quite a while to arrive, but now that it has, we have been enjoying rides together for a few weeks now. I cannot express how much of a joy it is for me to ride with my 70 year old father! Thank you! Without your video, he would never have even considered it, now we have discovered a shared love for cycling. 🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
What a wonderful message to start the weekend with, James. It was worth making what was my very first video just for this. Thank you so much for telling me about it. I’ve just turned 69 so close in age to your dad. I love to ride with my son, where we are more like mates than father and son. The good thing about the e assist is that your father can adjust the amount of power he uses as his strength increases. I wish you many more miles together and please pass on my best wishes to your dad
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy. Yes it's been really nice for both of us. We tried to ride together on a normal bike a few months ago and he could barely make it 5 miles. This week he has done a 22 mile ride and another 17 miler just yesterday! The ribble helps level us up so that i can pretty much take him on any terrain. It's opened up a whole new world for us both! I'm going to try and build his stamina up slowly so that we can go away somewhere in the summer, maybe try Alpe d'Huez, who knows 😋 Thanks again, keep making your videos 👍👍
Thank you very much Roy for this video, I'm 78 years of age, and I have got an E/Small Ribble CGR AL e, based on the recommendation. I am very pleased with it. I've watched several of your videos, and find them very encouraging. I live in Scotland so there is no shortage of hills.
I ride a Salsa Confluence with the same Mahle 35+ system. Like you I wanted an ebike that not only looked like my normal road bike but had the same basic geometry and fit. Plus, I wanted a system that HELPED me on the hills but still made me huff and puff a bit on the longer climbs. One improvement on my Confluence; in addition to the power button on the top tube it also has a thumb switch on the handlebar. Changing assist levels is just arrow up, arrow down sort of thing. Good thoughtful review.
@@sfdint thanks. I ride a non powered bike most of the time and sometimes question my need for the e assist. However, I’ve recently had my first experience of Covid so was grateful for the Ribble during my first few recovery rides.
Ordered one of these bikes about 6 weeks ago after loads of research. Just watched your excellent review and now convinced I’ve ordered the right bike. Thanks very much for the review which I found both incredibly informative but also entertaining. I’m approaching 70 and have done about 5 coast to coasts and the LEOG on my Cannondale gravel bike but after a 3 day bike packing trip with my son in the Dales I’ve decided that a little bit of assistance on the really steep stuff is now needed and I can’t wait for the bike to be delivered. Keep up the good work and thanks once again for a top review.
Thanks, Rory. That’s an impressive cycling pedigree. I shall be 70 late next year, so similar age to you. I was out on the Ribble yesterday but will use the Triban today. It’s great to be able to choose the bike that suits my energy level. My Son used to have to wait for me at the top of some hills, but now now I’m waiting for him. I’m about to make a 3500 mile update, which will all be positive except for one minor niggle - the paint chips too readily. I know you will love your new bike.
Thanks to Roy I have made the move to a used Orbea Gain f40. Totally delighted, those very hilly routes I used to avoid are a thing of the past. The ebikemotion is almost silent and my most recent outing of 32 miles and 800ft of climbing only used 33% battery. Left in level mode one Green and only used the level 2/Amber on steep hills.
Brilliant, thanks. I just had my CGR al e (Ultegra) delivered and I love it. I'm a fit 58 cyclist and live and cycle Dartmoor. The bike gives me access to the moor when I need some push up the hills, but for the rest of the ride the motor is off as I'm more than 15mph on a light bike that feels good on road. On gravel, it feels ok, but I'm not a fan of gravel really so difficult to judge. Loving your videos
Thanks, Michael. Even if you’re not keen on gravel, your CGR will provide the opportunity if ever you spot a less than perfect surface. I’ve been riding the Tempest over summer but I’ll be fitting the mudguards to my CGR next week and using it more over winter.
Which Tempest? Yes, I'm also looking for something light for next year to replace my very old (15yr), but very nice Racelight. Something I've realised with the CGR is how frame geometry has come on, it handles so much better
It’s the Planet X Tempest Titanium. I made a couple of videos about the build, of which this is the final one ruclips.net/video/lD3EojZAT1A/видео.html It’s almost as light as carbon but (for me) a much smoother feel.
I can say, having tried one it would be ideal and as you recover from your COVID reduce the battery assist to what you feel comfortable with. Brilliant for making hills easier work in your situation.
Very comprehensive review. I bought a kit and converted an old Raleigh bike during lock down to get me back into cycling, and now I am fully retired use both the kit bike and a standard tourer on rides. Many of my fellow riders are in their late 60’s and over and use electric assist. Audax are welcoming to electric assist as well as CTC. I may take the plunge and buy one of these as I don’t like the huge battery on my kit bike.
I have watched this one and the range extender one Roy and I think I can say they are two of the very best RUclips information films I have seen on ANY subject. Thanks very much. Well done!
@@RideWithRoy Justly deserved Roy and again thank YOU. However, I am 66 in a minute and am pretty desperate to continue my cycling life. I went onto the Ribble Bike Builder after 3 of your videos. I didn't alter the specification at all and they gave me a dispatch date of February Twenty twenty THREE! So, Orbea Gain D50 for me I think. I need assistance now! VERY disappointed with Ribble I'm afraid.
I agree, their deliveries have really gone to the dogs - and that’s if they even keep to them. Fortunately, the X35 system is now available with many other brands so at least we can vote with our wallets. The Orbea was a strong contender for me and the only thing that swung it to Ribble was their ‘Bike Builder’ facility. However, had I been faced with that ludicrous lead time I would have purchased the Orbea.
It was great to hear from you again Roy, reassuring that your brother has reached the same conclusion as me with Giant and hub motors, my motor was Yamaha but doing the same as Bosch. I went to my bike shop this afternoon to possibly change saddle. I found out they have a saddle fitting machine, where they key in my weight, height, riding time each ride etc, then sat me down on a small bench with a sensor pad, I had to stand up and sit down 3 times, then we saw the alignment of my hips, we saw that my right hip was not in line with my left hip. This coincides with my walking gait since the accident, I am still wobbling like a penguin. I bought a new saddle from Specialized as recommended by machine, I have fitted it but I am still getting the discomfort, there is another one with a bit softer padding so I will try that . Take care Alastair
Brilliant as always Roy. This vid taught me a lot, glad to say i got a Orbea Gain, D50, and like you i can now keep up with my son. So glad i watch this vid before i brought an e bike. Great advice, thanks very much Roy.
I enjoyed this Roy, thanks for sending me the link... I enjoyed the detail you went into talking about the bike, and it was good to see it in action on all terrains and up hill... Cheers 👊🏻
Well Roy took the plunge last night and ordered a new Ribble Al e in the same colour, spec and tyres: only difference is I went for red handlebar tape. When it arrives I will sell my old giant and swap seats over. Thanks for all your advice, think Ribble should be sending you a nice Christmas box!!! Roll on the end of January!!
Sounds great, Colin - I must have missed the red tape option 😂. Looks like Ribble have sold quite a few bikes from this review. I have no connection with Ribble, other than being a satisfied customer, and seek nothing from them personally. However, I did ask them if they would be interested in putting up a small giveaway/discount for my subscribers, to celebrate the huge number of views it has had and the orders they received as a result. That was a month ago and still no response either way. In fairness, they are extremely busy with orders. Keep in touch and let me know how you get on with the new bike.
Thanks, Steve. I’m pleased it helped you to make a decision. I am about to make an update as I approach 4000 miles. The only thing I plan to change is the Marathon tyres. I do find them excellent on gravel but quite scary in slippery conditions. The bike itself is excellent and I still enjoy riding it. October will be here before you know it - enjoy.
@@steveblood3722 it really depends on what type of riding you will be doing, Steve. The Marathons are brilliant tyres for most surfaces, except for slippery conditions. I’m going to try the Continental Contact Plus, although I can’t find stock at the moment. I would say if you are intending to ride the CGR throughout the winter you may be best to order it on the standard tyres and then upgrade yourself. However, if you won’t ride in these conditions, I would stick to the Marathons. This is just my opinion and I’m sure others may differ. I’m not a timid rider by any means, but the Marathons scare me on anything less than dry.
Roy, you have sold this bike to me! You covered everything I needed to know about. We are the same height and I was puzzled about the size of bike I would need. I ride in the Peak District, mainly off the road, and age (61 years) is taking its toll. Many thanks!
Thanks George. I’m approaching 68 and buying this bike is the best thing I did. The Ribble Bike Builder facility will enable you to spec the bike to suit your needs. I would imagine that you may choose a different group set due to the predominantly off road nature of your riding. Enjoy!
Ride With Roy Grey. Delivery 29 November! I told them you were the inspiration and showed them your RUclips video. The sales assistant, Edward, thought he remembered you!
Thanks once again Roy for a great video when you visited the 2nd WW cemetery and paid tribute to those incredible young men and women who died so that we can enjoy the freedoms we do today, which among many includes the opportunity to take part in recreational cycling. My father was one of Ian Flemings ‘Little Red Indians’ and served in 30 AU combined commando force whose motto was. Attain by Surprise. He never talked about his experiences. On the cycling front thanks for the tip about the frame on the Ribble being susceptible to chips. I’ll get the Helli tape ready. Keep the videos coming. Some help with the Garmin would be appreciated.
I can honestly say I’d never heard of your dad’s unit, Rory, so did some reading. It struck me that their methods seemed to have more akin to the modern SAS than their founders the LRDG did. He was certainly a very courageous man, and modest too by the sound of it. Now to the chips. A friend with a Ribble has just asked them about touch up paint. Ribble are happy to supply but they want £20 a pot!!! In my book that’s outrageous. If someone is spending over £2k on a bike, the least they can do is supply some complimentary touch up to keep their product looking good. It’s not as if they have been struggling with sales. I have the red colour and bought a £1.50 pot of acrylics that is a perfect match.
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy I agree with you £20 for a small pot of touch up paint is stupid, as you say the bike is close £2400 and delivery is nearly 6 months so a complimentary pot of touch up would seem like really good customer relations, maybe that sort of thing is well and truly in the past. I’ve had helli tape on my Canondale for over three years now and it still looks as good as new so I shall be applying that as soon as I get the bike. Thanks once again. Ride safe
Thanks, Ian,. Good choice. I chose the CGR AL-e due to the mixture of surfaces I like to ride on. The SL-e is a superb choice for road riding. I have just completed a battery range test and will publish this in the next week or so. The result was startling, for all the right reasons, and will be even better on the SL-e
Hi Roy thanks for the review have ordered bike Ribble will let you know how it goes back to cycling after accident ten years ago hopefully this bike will take the pressure off my back roll on the spring cheers take care
Sorry to hear of your injury, Andrew, that's a long time to be out of cycling. Just as well the e-assist came along, as I'm sure it's going to be a great help. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how you get on.
Hi Roy, I’ve just been watching this Ribble video again, 3rd or 4th time, the bike is similar to my new Cannondale Topstone Neo SL1. But I have Shimano Grx 11 speed equivalent to Ultegra and 42mm tyres. Had the bike over a month now and was getting 60 miles on a charge, but I have been using it more in neutral power and since last battery charge I have done 140 miles and battery state is now 38%. With the motor in rear hub there is no drag compared to the Giant Fathom with motor in crank. I used to struggle to pedal Giant if battery died before end of trip. I find bike is very smooth although thinking of another saddle. These gravel bikes are great with the state of British roads now, since my accident last year I found riding my Synapse I was very vulnerable and frightened on rougher surfaces. I part exchanged Giant and sold Synapse on Fleebay
That’s a brilliant performance, Alastair. It’s shameful that we now need a gravel bike to ride on some UK roads. My brother has a Bosch powered Giant and he is disappointed that riding without power is not a realistic option. My go to saddle is the Selle Italia Man Flow. They don’t seem to make this anymore but the Gel Flow seems to be similar.
Hi Roy great video, nice to see an honest review of what’s looks like a great bike. Do you feel any kind of additional resistance from the motor when it is not assisting you? I’d be interested to know whether you felt it would be more difficult to maintain speeds over 15mph compared to a non ebike weighing the same amount?
Thanks, Dave. No, there is no resistance at all when the motor disengages, and it’s hardly noticeable. I haven’t noticed any difficulty keeping my speed above the cut off and the additional weight seems to help once momentum gained - and you reach that speed faster. If I was with a group maintaining 18mph + I would have a problem keeping up, but that’s more about me than the bike. However, although they would get ahead of me on the flat, I would regain my position on the hills.
How easy is it to cruise at 25kmh on max assist? Thinking of using this bike for a 10mile commute and wondering how much easier it will be compared to a normal road bike.
Hi Roy, Just watched the video as if only recently looked at Ribble bikes, I really enjoyed it. It answered a question I had about e bikes doing all the work for you. Wasnt expecting to see my local area either, I go down that hill more than I go up it, an E bike would certainly help!
You've just described me perfectly! In my 50's now, getting a bit tired with bad knees. I've been looking seriously at the Al e so I reckon it's pretty similar to your bike in a lot of respects. I need a more upright riding position now though due to arthritic joints creeping in (particularly wrists). When I get out on the bike, it's anywhere between 25-45 miles (without electricity) but I'm not getting on it as often as I should because I'm struggling a bit now. Great review though.
That’s good to hear, Tricia. The iWoc button is the cause of most confusion with the system. I’ve had several people contact me, saying they are disappointed with the bike. Once they realise that the power won’t advance without two presses, and understand the meaning of each light, they love it. I wish you many miles on your new bike and thanks for taking the time to comment 👍
I went and had a fitting at BLUEWATER showrooms in Kent as a result of this video. The bike will be far better than I deserve but its a one off purchase. The question is has anyones bikes started arriving yet. I went for the bog standard one with slightly narrower bars, ordered mudguards and rack. Your water bottles are they Ribble ones. Just waiting on my cycle to work vouchers
Hi Roy, great review thanks as it is the e-bike I am looking at. As a 60 year old post COVID-19 patient who was on a ventilator in March 2020 I think I need a little help! I am looking for a daily commute bike, 12 miles each way but with a long hard hill to climb both directions. Currently only able to climb at 6mph in bottom gear! However, I like to push on the flat and maintain a reasonable speed. I was also looking at the Boardman e bike with the full back up of the Halfords network. I am wondering about service options as I live in Dorset. Any good pointers for me? Thanks
Malcolm Cumber thanks, Malcolm. Sorry to hear you have gone through a terrible time and pleased to hear you came out of the other side. I don’t know anything about the Boardman, or Halfords expertise with electric bikes. I do know that the Boardman has the Fazua Evation system and the Ribble features the Ebikemotion X35. Here is a good article that evaluates both ebikechoices.com/fazua-evation-vs-x35-ebikemotion/ I would imagine that both perform in a similar way. The reason I chose the Ribble CGR ALe was the ability to build my own spec, together with their reputation. I also found I could get a higher spec for the money. As far as support goes, I can’t speak for Halfords. It would be worth checking if they would repair the electrical system in store or have to send it away. I did have a problem with mine and Ribble arranged collection/return at their cost and also offered to pay a local bike shop to make any required adjustments. They kept me informed and it was only away for a week. For info, since this review I have ridden 71miles and 1700ft of climbing on one charge and still had about 20% to spare. Whichever you choose, I am sure it will be ideal for your needs. As you recover you will be able to use less power and increase your fitness. I am about to review my rear carrier and bag, plus in the next few weeks I shall be carrying out a long ride to see how much I can get out of the main battery, and then carry on with the optional range extender, so if you subscribe you will see these when published. I wish you well in your recovery. Roy
Ribble's range of e bikes is frightening from top of the range endurance Sle with etap or dura ace di2 all the way to an urban ALe with flat bars and pannier rack and guards, there will be a bike within the range to suit.
They usually advise going smaller if on the cusp. It really depends how flexible you are as you will need to stretch more. You could get around to some extent by ordering with a shorter stem. It really depends on those factors, but if well into the small frame size chart I would go small. I have the extra small and could possibly push it to small, but Ribble sizing is unique, so their small would be someone else's medium. If you can go medium it will give you more frame space for bike packing kit etc.
Great review by the way. I test road the Cairn with fatzu system but found the bike a little heavy. Keen on the ribble but quite a trek to get to the store to size one. Most of my bikes have been small as I am 5.8 30 inseam. Im 65 so find I need a little assistance now.
Thanks, Rick. The Ribble sizing is a little different to other brands but their size guide is pretty accurate. I hear good reports on the Orbea Gain. It might be worth seeing if they have a dealer near you. It uses the same Ebikemotion system.
Great video. I have problem, that I need to stay under 146bpm because of heart problem. Do you think it is possible on this bike? Or It is too weak motor in steep hills?
It’s going to depend on the hills, and the speed you want to travel up them. This system does have an app setting that will trigger the power when the rider reaches a pre defined HR. If you want to put some power in for fitness and you’re not climbing greater than around 12% inclines, then the lightness and available power should work for you. If not, a more powerful crank drive might be better.
Hi Roy, loved the review, just wondering, I have to have low gears on my bikes now, have to work out gear inches etc. this bike doesn't go low enough for what I normally use. 1. could I change the rear cassette perhaps to get lower gears, would this interfere with the rear hub/motor 2. or as it's an assist bike the will the motor get me up the hills with the present gearing. just wondering before I take the plunge. thank you
Thank, Julie Ann. The assist is going to give you the affect of lower gearing, so I doubt you will need a different cassette. High power on your lowest gear should get you up most climbs without too much effort. I have an 11-32 cassette on mine, which is fine for me, while on my unpowered bikes I have 11-34 to assist on the steeper climbs. The standard Shimano 105 with a medium cage will allow an 11-34 to be fitted and there should be no reason why it couldn’t be upgraded, but you would need to speak with the manufacturer to be sure and have the upgrade added to your order.
Hi Roy. Thanks for this review. I do have a question which will help me decide if this is the bike for me. There's 1 quite steep hill on my ride to work and as I don't want to arrive sweaty I need the bike to do most of the work on that. I don't need a great range as it's only 6 miles and the power assist would be mostly for that hill. I just need to be sure the motor will provide enough assistance to make it like normal cycling on that hill. Thanks in advance.
You could buy a more powerful e bike that will carry you up the hill with no work, but it will be harder on the non assist parts of your commute. The e assist will get me up the 12% near my home with non sweaty effort and full power. If I assist it with some work it will get me up faster. So I doubt you will run out of power and it will be an easy ride on the non powered parts of your commute. I hope that helps.
Hi Roy, I’m coming up to 1000 miles on my CGR, very pleased with it. Just one question: I’ve noticed that a blue light sometimes comes on and I can’t then scroll up the power range. On a couple of occasions I’ve come to a dead stop on a hill and had to go back down to go back through the power settings. Any suggestions? All the best, Simon.
Hello Simon, glad to hear you’re getting the miles in. It sounds like the flashing light is the fault warning, which I call pink. The iWoc will flash blue when the app is connecting but that won’t affect any functions. I had a consistent fault warning whenever I connected the range extender. This was due to a voltage imbalance which was cured by a firmware update. However, that was over a year ago and only on a batch of systems, so shouldn’t affect yours. I very occasionally still get the ‘pink’ light and clear it by the universal long press to switch off and then on again. If it is happening regularly it could be a fault. To establish this, ride with the app connected until you experience the warning again. If there is a genuine fault, the app will show a code. It is also worth noting that Ebikemotion can connect to your app to see the code and give appropriate advice. This link explains the process and the codes www.ebikemotion.com/web/error-codes-reference/. In summary, it may be nothing with an easy cure or if a fault you will need to identify it and contact Ribble. Let me know how it goes.
Hello Roy, my wife and I are thinking about taking a road/bike trip from Colorado to New Mexico (~800 km) and to LA (~1500 km). We love your video and the bike and are considering getting one. I am wondering if it’s possible to add additional cargo racks to the bike? Second, would you recommend the bike for long distance riding?
Thanks, Chen. The bike is great for long trips, especially as it provides the option to use gravel paths. Clearly, the facility to charge the battery each evening will be key. The addition of a range extender battery will help, depending on your daily distance. It would be worth watching my Range Extender test to give you some idea of what this will help you achieve. Yes, you can fit cargo racks to the front and rear and the fittings are already there. I am in the process of editing a review of my rear rack and bag, so should have this uploaded by the weekend. My setup is just for day trips, but will demonstrate how it works. The important point is that the inboard mounted disks provide greater choice of rack. Enjoy!
Hi Roy. I'm considering buying this bike, but have a question regarding the battery. Is the battery removable and if not, what happens when the battery expires or fails?
Hello, Nige. No, the battery isn’t removable for charging. Bear in mind that I get 100 miles from each full charge, so properly cared for you can potentially ride 50,000 miles, which would probably be new bike time. If the battery does need a change you can get this done by any nearby mechanic that handles the X35 system. Having said this, access is by a cover below the downtube and it’s a plug-in device, so it looks easy enough to DIY.
Hi Roy. New subscriber here! Thanks for your videos - very helpful. Please can I have your opinion - I’m about to choose to buy either a Ribble sle Road bike or the cgr a l-e like yours. The decision isn’t easy! My question is - is the cgr good enough to keep up with unassisted road bikes or would you go for the sl-e? I fancy the all round capabilities of the cgr but don’t want to get dropped by my friends when we go out on the road. Hope my question makes sense! Thanks.
Great to have you with us, thank you. Your question makes perfect sense but always difficult to advise someone without knowing them, but I’ll try. If your friends are fairly fast then you will need to factor in the speed you need to ride at after the assistance cuts out at around 15.5 mph. My son will average 17.5 mph over 80 miles and, although light for an e bike, the CGR Al - e is heavier than the SL-e, so will require a lot more energy to keep up with that sort of speed. Where you will gain is on hills and into wind. After that you will need to consider how much off road you will do. If your friends are riding road bikes then I would be going for the SL-e. One factor to consider is the drive system. Ribble are still fitting the original Mahle X35 system, which has now been susperceded by the X20. mahle-smartbike.com/x20/. This is a lighter and more sophisticated drive that I would be aiming for if I was in the market. Only a few manufacturers are building this in at the moment, Scott being one. If you are set on a Ribble, it would be worth checking with them regarding their plans for the X20. I know this has probably introduced more questions that answers, but I hope it will help.
Hi Roy. Great video. Thinking about touring & overnight stays & assuming I don’t have the Extender, exactly how close to a mains socket (13amp, I a guess) do I have to store my bike? In other words, how long is the charging cable?
@@alanwhittaker109 it’s a through axle as opposed to a quick release, so you’ll need the correct Allen key in your kit. The only difference is one push plug and socket. This video explains it well ruclips.net/video/Kx5T6s-2gQ8/видео.html. Note the washer positioning, which is a through axle thing and nothing to do with it being electric. It’s worth a practice run so that you are ready for an on road puncture repair, but I find through axle much easier than the QR.
Fife on a Bike , thanks. Easier than I thought it would be! Apart from just pulling one plug from its socket, it’s no different to any through axle (which I find easier than quick release)
Great review Roy and very informative. Was just wondering will you do one with all your gear on and give us a good tour around it. When they bike is in neutral does it feel like an ordinary bike, no drag? Thanks and keep them coming!!!
Thanks, Colin. I’m just about to finish off a look at my lighting setup, so should upload on Friday. I am also editing some footage I took in the summer, when we were allowed to roam, of a visit to some interesting WW2 graves and a look around a Knights Templar Preceptory. I also have plans to do something on route planning, together with riding with some local groups - when we can ride as a group again. I am always pleased to respond to ideas for future videos, but bear in mind I only review what I own, so reviews are limited to that. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. As for drag, there is none with the Ebikemotion X35. Once you reach the cut off speed it seamlessly disengages and makes it easy to continue under your own steam. My brother has a Bosch mid drive system on his bike and he does notice drag. He likens it to having an old style dynamo being driven by the wheel - but that might not mean anything to you 😂. This means that he has to ride with power on all of the time and can’t comfortably ride above the 15.5 mph limit.
@@RideWithRoy ha ha I remember the dynamo very well, if you showed someone that set up today they'd think it was some sort of torture training device!!! Looking forward to reviews, am waiting on cyclescheme to get back to me (too long a wait) and then i'll get my order into Ribble. Same spec as yours but may go for fatter tyres as i have plenty of 28s at home. Do you feel the 35 marathons do it all for you? Any punctures or offs? How do they perform on gravel or forest tracks? Sorry for all questions i'm sure everyone whos interested in the bike finds your videos invaluable as Ribbles are a bit same old, but customer reviews are interesting.
Funny you should ask that, Colin. I find the 35’s are perfect for me and wouldn’t want to go wider or narrower. That’s because 75% of my riding is on road (although some are like tracks in Lincolnshire!) when I am on tracks the tyres don’t give me any cause for nervousness. However, a couple of weeks ago, on a completely dry day, I had a nasty fall at a country lane junction. The bike was totally unscathed but I had a nasty road rash injury to my thigh. There was no warning, it just went from under me. A post crash inspection revealed crushed carrots on the road! Who knew carrots are such a good lubricant - I might start using them on my chains. The truth is that even a mountain bike tyre wouldn’t have gripped on that slick surface, so I can’t blame the tyres. I might put up a short video of the crash as a warning against riding over carrots😂 I’m pleased you remember the dynamo. All well and good, until stopping at a junction the lights would go out... Have a good day and feel free to ask away.
I’m looking at purchasing the hybrid ebike as it seems better for casual use as well as weekend trips. I worried the racer bike handles won’t be comfortable for a newbie like me. However I’m tempted with the gravel option. Which would you recommend?
It’s a difficult one to recommend. I prefer the drop handlebars as there are more positions available to move the hands to to avoid cramp etc. When I ride my straight bar mountain bike I find it uncomfortable. However, I know riders who prefer the straight bars. The best advice it to try out both types, if you can. Not just a sit on but a proper ride. There are gravel bikes available in both bar types, so you can have all the benefits of a gravel bike in the bar type of your choice.
Hi Roy has the CGR ALe got tubeless tyre option? How does it perform in the mud?? along with my new Ribble SLe have a Specialized Levo Turbo FSR Fattie full suspension thinking of selling to fund a GCR ALe !! thanks Paul Reply
They don’t show a tubeless option on the bike builder, so you’d need to check with Ribble. I haven’t ridden it in deep mud, but soggy tracks are no problem. It really depends on how extreme you want to go. I run both the Gravel and the MTB. I would say the CGR is a capable ride on gravel and light mud, but there’s nothing like a mountain bike for rough terrain.
Hi Roy Great review.I have a bike almost exactly like yours except I went for the Sram single.I also recognise some of the route you show on the video as I live just south of Grantham
Thanks SD. I’m guessing you do more tracks than roads with the Sram. I was at the March Hare one day when I met several Witham Wheelers riders with electric CGR’s. Might you have been one of them? I actually find south of Grantham more interesting to ride, in fact I’m out that way tomorrow. If ever you want to meet up for a ride just email me.
I think it would very much depend on your flexibility and core strength. If, like me, you prefer a more relaxed riding position then I would choose the small. If, however, you are more athletic, with good core strength, the medium would suit. If you are near enough to a Ribble store they would set you up on their static bike, which is what I did. The stem length can also be specified, so a medium with a shorter stem may suit, depending on your build. So, no easy answer but I hope this helps.
I did. It’s this one ruclips.net/video/8NY-NF9KKJA/видео.html RUclips only show a selection of videos but if you go to the videos tab you will see all of them 👍
Thanks, John. I hope delivery isn’t a problem as I have heard of a few people whose order promises haven’t been met by Ribble. I had to wait months for mine, and that was in ‘normal’ times. To be fair to Ribble, I think most brands are in the same boat. Good luck 🤞
Hi Roy, What is your inside leg measurements I know its a personal question but I'm only wondering about a frame I should order I think I'm between 5'7 to 5'8 so I may get away with a small frame as these are available at the moment. The small frames are not available until the month of May.
Hi Roy great review. Am currently looking at this bike and liked to hear your tyre choice. Just to clarify, the motor only kicks in under 15 mph if it feels you pressure the system or how does it know to assist? am waiting for partial knee replacement and have too many bikes that sit and look at me, currently selling them to finance this move. any downside to the Ribble? a friend has had a gran condo for years and swears by it! Greta channel.
colin small Thanks, Colin, that’s very kind. So long as you are pedalling between zero and 15.5 mph the power will engage. However, the Ebikmotion app allows the three power settings to be adjusted down from the 100% factory setting. This allows you to customise the power settings to suit your need. Those with a heart condition can also link the app to a heart monitor, which will switch the power on once a pre set heart rate is reached. Good luck with the knee replacement. My neighbour has just had one and it has made a huge difference. It’s also a great time to sell used bikes, so I hope that goes well for you 👍
Hi Roy, good video, nice countryside! I have a question about the assistance you get from the ebikemotion system as I'm slightly confused about how it delivers the power to you. Do you find it effectively multiplies the effort you put in by whatever assistance level you've chosen, i.e. a bit like a crank motor with a torque sensor? I know it uses sensors in the hub to work out your cadence and assume the speed you turn the crank affects the power output from the motor?
Thanks, Paul. I don’t have the technical knowledge to give an answer that your question deserves. However, I can point you to this article that seems to explain it well granfondo-cycling.com/ebikemotion-x35-m1-review/. In layman’s terms, I can say that the motor appears to give continuous power in each of three levels. If I select high power I will get high power, regardless of how much I pedal. The variables are how hard I pedal and correct use of gears. As this is a relatively small motor & battery combination, it is designed to assist the rider, and not do it for them. As such, on a 12% hill, for example, I need to use a combination of low gear, high power and pedal power. How much power is applied through the pedals will dictate the speed. In essence, this system is for reasonably fit riders who want some assistance on hills or when tired. The relatively light weight means that the bike can easily be ridden without power. I rode 57 miles last week with no power, as I was with a slower ‘unpowered’ friend. This would be extremely hard work on a heavier crank drive machine. I hope this helps, Paul, but feel free to ask more and I’ll try to help.
Thanks, Josh. All I can really say is that Ribble sizing is accurate, but does differ from some manufacturers, so large in another make won’t compare with Ribble’s large. Their advice is that if you are between sizes, go smaller. Of course, the other consideration is how flexible you are. I recommend having chat with Ribble for their advice. They do offer a replacement policy, so you won’t be stuck if the size doesn’t suit you. Sorry I can’t be of more help but maybe some other Ribble owner here can help. There is also a Ribble owners Facebook group, where there is bound to be a similarly tall owner that can help.
Great information Roy , i am 60 years old, been riding bikes for over 30 years and i am considering an e-bike due to not being able to enjoy riding the hills the way i used to and also i have started commuting to work and find fatigue from every day riding to be a difficulty. i was struggling with deciding between mid drive and hub drive and you have helped me understand which type of e -bike would be best for me thank you Roy i have one question is the battery removable from the down tube?
No, it’s not removable for charging on the Mahle Ebikmotion system, but can be removed for eventual replacement. You would usually need to go for a mid drive to have that. I just pop mine on charge in the garage, but I know not everyone has that facility. It’s also important not to charge any lithium battery in freezing conditions, so outside charging requires more careful management, I shall be making a video on that before winter sets in. The non removable battery and single iWoc control button is the trade-off for not looking like an e bike and being much lighter.
Hi Roy, loving your videos. Looking at an electric bike for commuting to and from work to cut down car use and exercise. It's only about 8 miles, but I was thinking that an electric bike would be handy after a tiring day. I've had hardtail mountain bikes for red and black trails when I was younger, and I also had a road bike which was just too harsh for me. How comfortable is this bike compared to a road bike with thin tyres? I like how lightweight this bike is and looks like a normal bike, but I am not sure if I should go for something like this or go something with front suspension.
Thanks, Rob. I also ride a Cube hardtail so can compare. The Ribble is very comfortable with 35mm tyres running at lower pressure than your thin tyre road bike. Of course, there are limits, so I get the Cube out if conditions are too rough/muddy etc. With this setup, the Ribble is smooth on what passes for Tarmac in the UK and very comfortable, with no harsh road buzz. Personally, I have never contemplated front suspension, even when taking to tracks. As you’ve worked out, any bike with the lightweight X35 hub drive will mean you can easily use your own power on the commute, but switch it on for the times you don’t feel up to it. I also find switching on the power for a fast getaway at traffic lights useful.
Great thorough review. I am really torn between the Ribble Endurance and CGR. Am yet to get a bike fitting from Ribble but I'm coming from riding a hybrid, so which would you say would be a better bike with a more relaxed riding position? Thanks
Thanks, Sharon. I haven’t ridden the Endurance but understand that with the carbon frame it’s designed for road riding over long distances, so the riding position should be as relaxed as the CGR. I think the main question you need to consider is the type of riding you will do. If, like me, you want to explore both roads and tracks, then the CGR would be best. If, however, you are sticking to roads, then the Endurance would seem the best choice. I hope that helps and you enjoy whatever you choose.
Can’t help with that one, Sharon 🙂 I ride both e assist and ‘me power’. The thing I like about e assist, rather than the heavier big battery machines, is I still get a good workout but know I can have some assistance when I get tired. I find that most people with e assist bikes go farther and ride more, so fitness can actually increase. Good luck with whatever you choose.
@@RideWithRoy Likewise. What I liked about the Ribble is that it's light enough even with the battery, to ride like a non eBike bike should I choose to, but it could give me assistance on hills etc. (I suffer a little with Exercise Induced Asthma so I suffer breathing difficulties on hills or when theres a headwind, so extra assistance would be beneficial). I am relatively new to cycling and took it up again this year. I'm not the fittest but I'm gradually getting better. The lighter eMotion eBikes that can potentially be ridden without the electric element as I get fitter also appeals to me.... decisions decisions! :)
Roy!!! - why don't you and your bike come for a visit in Slovenia one day. I am dane living in the most beautiful scenery near Ljubljana. I call it Pogacar wonderland. (he grew up in this region) And - I am gonna buy a Riddle after your review. thanks
I once worked with someone who had lived in Slovenia, so it’s on my list of beautiful places to ride. I’m pleased you found by review useful and hope you enjoy your new Ribble. Which model are you going for?
@@RideWithRoy the same like yours. - btw: can you mount a rack on the bike? I always move around with extra this and that - in fact my office too: I am writer and photographer....slovenia...no place like this. I am writing a cover story for danish cycling magazine about it.
Yes, you can fit front and back. This is a review I did of my day touring setup ruclips.net/video/Er5vhWfw33E/видео.html. I’d love a link to the story when finished, although my Danish is non existent 😂
Hi Roy, good review - I have been looking at this bike for a while with this motor. How do you find going up steeper hills, here in North Devon my routes usually include a few steep ones. I find I'm struggling somewhat (60yr but consider myself trim and fit) just feel I need a gentle push up whilst still doing some work. I have read that the emotion system does become less effective the less you pedal eg up steeper inclines 10% plus? Would appreciate your view on this. Cheers Pete 👍
Hello, Pete, thanks for your question. It sounds like you are the perfect candidate for the e assist. The system is a balance between the rider putting some work in, using the gears effectively and the motor assisting. Riders wanting the bike to do it all would be better buying one of the more powerful, but heavier, bikes. I regularly ride 12% hills in the Vale of Belvoir and have no trouble. I can get a workout by working harder, or drop into my lowest gear and pedal slowly - I’ve been known to do the latter when at the end of a long ride or on days when I feel less strong. The only time the system becomes less effective is when the rider doesn’t use the correct gear. If you ride the way you would without power then you will get the full benefit from the motor. As I said in the video, it’s like riding on a day when your legs feel strong. For info, I’m a fit 68 year old but most of my strength is upper body. I can ride long distances, unassisted, but can’t put down a huge amount of power on the pedals. 👍
Great bikes but communication can sometimes let them down. Someone ordered on the strength of this review and only found out there would be a delay when she chased up delivery.
@@RideWithRoy Yes, delays this year have been a part of the ordering system. Though, when I ordered in May, it was clear I was going to have to wait to September for delivery. One thing I think they could improve on, a little tool bag with the bike.
@@saintuk70 I think they’ve done well with such unprecedented demand, and the restrictions on how they can work. Long leads times can be expected, but when deliveries are going to be late it’s important to keep the customer informed. One email can take the sting out of a late delivery.
Does the light always start on green, asking because I am red green colour blind and have a lot of trouble differentiating between them, Traffic lights are ok because I can tell if top middle or bottom are illuminated, but some thing I put on to charge that have red or amber for charging and green for fully charged, I have problems and have to guess from the time its been on.
Thanks for that question, Michael, as it’s something I have often thought about. Yes, it will show green to denote that the system is working correctly (which I didn’t mention in the video) but on my bike it also means I am in the first power setting when I switch on. Then it drops back to the colour of the charge state. As you are an experienced cyclist, I guess you will know the setting by the feel of the bike, otherwise you would have a problem.
@@RideWithRoy thank you, just looking at options, my arthritis is slowly getting worse, just looking at options for one or 2 year's time, if it carries on like it is, might need some help, but I like to carry on using my own energy as much as possible. I'm a bit like the black Knight in Monty Python The Holy Grail , tis only a scratch, 😅😅😅
@@FENCYCLIST I have contacted Ebikemotion who have suggested their monochrome Pulsar display. This looks like it will solve the problem for colour blindness. You would need to specify this on your order I would imagine. This is the link www.ebikemotion.com/web/mahle-pulsar-one-the-smart-display-for-x35-systems/
Hi Roy, great to see a ALe review - had a ribble road bike for years but ordered the CGR ALe in red in June, still awaiting delivery (October!) but looking forward to getting out and about on it. I do well on most road riding but wanted something to go further easily (with some tracks not just road) and also use as a c2w bike (orders on c2w scheme). I struggle not to put in 100% effort whenever on the road bike and wear myself out easily on longer 30-50mile rides as a result, but getting to the office (5 miles) I’d love to not make myself a sweaty mess. How are you finding it on short trips? Easy to accept the pedal assist for a quick short ride without pushing hard and still getting somewhere ok?
eQuaZ0r you are going to love it and will be worth the wait. In answer to your question, I tend to let my body decide. I’m approaching 68 and there are days when I am feeling it, so need the power, even on a short trip. On others, like the range extender review, I can ride 100 miles and only use power selectively. I rode out to see stage 12 of Le Tour on Thursday (video to follow) and used my old Fuji road bike. I’d forgotten how many hills there were in this area and wished I packed the Ribble.
Have got my order in for one of these now after lots of to-ing and fro-ing regarding which bike to purchase. Sadly delivery isn't going to be until Christmas but at least the order's in, i'm currently riding a 2014 Orange RX9 but think that'll be resigned to the garage after Christmas. Be interested to hear your thoughts on how you feel after a 50-100 mile ride on this compared to your standard bike Roy?
That’s great news, and Christmas will soon come around. I use this bike depending on how I feel, and the circumstances. Yesterday evening I was scheduled to assist on a guided ride. The start was about 21 miles from home and the ride was over 21 miles. I decided to ride there and use the Ribble. It was windy, so I added the range extender as a bit of insurance. I also added the rack and bag, to enable me to carry extra water and the obligatory first aid kit. The guided part of the ride was quite fast and included a big hill, so a bit of e assist helped, especially with the loaded bike. It was getting dark by the time I neared home so, being a gravel bike, I was able to avoid a final hill by using the canal towpath. If I didn’t have the option of the Ribble I would have driven. However, if I was riding 100 miles I would use the unpowered Triban, which I also enjoy. I have ridden 100 on both bikes and they are equally comfortable. I am about to make an update video of the CGR after 3500 miles, but all good. I chose Marathon tyres from new but I found the quite scary on wet tarmac. I’ve just changed them for Continental Contact Plus. They are a bit of a harder ride but I’m feeling much more confident with the grip. Let me know when the bike arrives and feel free to contact me with any questions.
Thanks for this review Roy. I'm struggling to find the weight of this spec bike on their site - could you share what yours weighs please? Also, do you know if it is possible to remove the speed limit with the X35 system?
Hi Matt. With tools, pedals and saddle, mine weights exactly 15kg. You can’t remove the speed limiter, as far as I know, but once up to speed it is light enough to stay there. If it was possible to remove the limit, I wouldn’t do it as it would defeat the object and use the battery far too quickly. The app allows us to adjust the speed setting for each power level, up to the limit.
Speed limiter can't be messed about with. If you try the system will shut down its a clever little bugger that sends information back to a central hub in Spain. It can also tell when and if the system fails and will be turned off if reported as stolen.
I actually experienced this, Paul. I had a persistent fault light and the tech people at Ebikmotion could see exactly what the fault was, remotely. Turned out to be a Firmware update required. All very clever, and reassuring.
Great review.....what is the lifespan approximately of the battery and can they be easily changed during its life ....I've often wondered if the battery would outlast the bike or vice versa
Thanks, Christopher. The life of the battery is approximately 500 full charge cycles before it reduces capacity. It’s important to note that a charge cycle is from fully discharged to fully charged. This means that if you charge from 50% discharged it only counts as half a charge cycle. Life of a lithium battery will depend on how it’s cared for. For example, charging in freezing conditions will seriously shorten the life or cause irreparable damage. Although it’s said to be a dealer job to replace the battery, I’ve had a good look and would be happy to do it myself. It doesn’t appear to require any special tools.
Roy, please, I have 2 questions: 1) When you are pedaling without electrical assistance, do you notice any greater effort due to the motor or the bicycle spins free like a bicycle without assistance? 2) When using electrical assistance, does the engine make a noise?
Hello Ivan. Unlike crank drive systems, there is no friction at all on the Ebikmotion hub drive. This is what made it my choice, as I want to be able to ride as a normal bike. As far as noise goes, it is very quiet. In the low assistance you would have to listen carefully to hear it. When on high power, pushing up a hill, the sound is more noticeable, but still not loud. For example, I overtook some cyclists on a hill, today, on full power, and they didn’t realise I was electrically powered. When I saw them later I did tell them, as I think they were feeling demoralised by my performance 😂
@@RideWithRoy Roy, first of all, thank you for the answers. I am also already in my third age and I feel that I need extra strength to overcome the great mountains. I am in doubt as to the best engine technology "Hub drive X crank drive systems (like Fazua technology) and the discomfort of the noise of electric motors, so the hub drive would be more suitable for me.
You are very welcome, Ivan. There really is no discomfort with noise. If you look at this video ruclips.net/video/b67BMf9WyBo/видео.html At 6:35 I have selected full power ready for a steep hill. You can just about hear the motor in the background while I’m speaking.
Hi Roy love your channel and videos. I'm pretty new to cycling in my 60's with mild COPD, at the moment I ride a trekking bike with a Bosch mid drive motor. So my question for you young man would I find that the motor in the Ribble be under powered to what I have now, Thanks David
Thanks for your support, David, it’s much appreciated. I haven’t ridden a mid drive motor of any sort, so my answers must be measured against that. A hub drive, such as in the Ribble, will produce less torque than a mid drive, such as the Bosch. This means that you will need to work a little on some of the steeper hills. However, as can be seen in my review, a slow easy pedal in high power will get you up with ease, just not as fast as the higher torque mid drive. The big plus with the Ribble with Ebikmotion is the weight of the bike. Every mid drive bike I have seen is heavy. I guess this is due to the larger battery required. My Ribble CGR Al e weights in at 15kg, and that’s with pedals, tools camera and lights. And if you are happy to spend more and stick to roads, the SL e is even lighter. The big benefit is that the bike can easily be ridden without power, due to this low weight. My brother has a Cube with Bosch mid drive and he has been disappointed with the friction he experiences when trying to ride without power. He likens it to riding with an old style dynamo rubbing on the wheel. Conversely, once the Ebikmotion system is disconnected, either by being switched into neutral or over 15.5 mph, there should be no friction from the drive. So, after all this I will try to answer your question. If you are riding up to 40 miles with a couple of hills less than 12% you could ride on full power all the way round and will probably find little difference. If you add the range extender you can likely double that distance. If gentle exercise will help control your mild COPD, then this system is ideal, as you can do as much or as little as you wish. If, on the other hand, you just want to get out on powered rides then the Bosch would seem the best. The best thing to do is try to get a test ride on an Ebikemotion powered bike. The system is used in other makes, such as Orbea, so you may be able to find one near you to try. I am sure other subscribers with more experience of mid drives will be able to add to this conversation.
Hi Roy. Thank you for your great channel. I always look forward to your next video. I am also a proud owner of a Ribble AL e gravel bike exactly the same spec as your and even the same colour. I notice that you have managed to procure two drinks holders that look a good match to the the red frame colour. Could you advise me were you purchased these from? Ribble has supplied me with one but the colour match really doesn’t do it. Regards Tony from Bournemouth.
Thanks, Tony, that’s very nice of you. The bottle holders are Elite Custom Race Plus. This is the Amazon link amzn.to/3FeqSoE but you may get them at a lower price if you look around.
Excellent revue Roy, thank you very much. As a result my pal and I have ordered gravel bikes from Ribble. I would be very interested to hear what equipment you use, pump, saddle bag, tools and lights. You clearly have a great deal of experience and will have sorted out your equipment very well ! Have you had any issues with the app, many of the reviews on the Ribble site complain that it is not reliable? Again many thanks your time and effort which is greatly appreciated. Regards, Rod.
Thank you Rod, that’s very kind and just the encouragement I need. I don’t use the app on rides, as when the phone is in my back jersey pocket the app disconnects. My main use was when I had a fault. Ebikemotion were able to see what my bike was doing and diagnose the fault - which turned out just to be a firmware update needed. It’s also handy to connect up for an accurate check of battery remaining. With the limited use I’ve had there have been no issues. I will make a short video of my kit, which covers all the essentials. I am literally just off out on my CGR to video some night shots for a lighting review that I should have uploaded by Saturday morning. I’m always pleased to receive suggestions as I can easily assume that nobody would be interested in what kit I carry. Enjoy your CGR’s and keep in touch 👍
@@RideWithRoy I have a bike with a 500 watt motor and it Is 48 volts. The total power is dependent on the amp hours. I could have chosen 14 ah battery, a 17ah battery or both, which I did. The distance I can receive power depends on the amp hours I have available. Do you know how many amp hours your battery is?
To calculate amps you divide the Watts by the Volts. So in this case it will be almost 7 Amp hour. This system is designed to provide assistance only, and not totally drive the bike. Mine weighs only 15kg so is easy to pedal without power, allowing me to just add power on hills. I also have a range extender. This works as a power bank - topping up the main battery as I ride. That, combined with the main battery gives a total of 450 Watts, so 450/36 = 12.5 Amp hour.
@@RideWithRoy thanks! Yes, the reason I’m interested in yours is that my very fully electric bike got me out on the road and I lost weight and got in shape, now I’m wanting to do more serious riding but I want a little help on hills and just incentive to go out for a few hours instead of one or less. I’m a huge fan!
Sounds perfect for you. There are now many bike manufacturers using the Mahle X35 system so the choice is now wide. If you need any further help just ask.
Really great review Roy, i'm an MTB rider but bought a second hand Gravel Bike last year and love the fact that I can do distances on it but still go off road a bit. Was planning on getting the SLe then I can do proper road riding but seeing this has changed my mind I think i'd miss the ability to go off road. I'm the same height as you, if it's not too personal could you tell me what your inside leg is please? Was looking at the small frame but you said yours is extra small so not sure.
Thanks, Anton. Inside leg is 31”. I could have gone for the small with a shorter stem but was recommended to go x small during Ribble in store fitting. I do find I need the saddle fully back to have correct position on the pedals. I certainly don’t regret going for XS, but feel i could have managed with the S. The downside of XS is there is no room for frame bags. I’m going to be doing a 3500 mile review of the bike in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks for the reply Roy my inside leg is the same, by the sounds of it I could do with getting properly measured up for it as I don't want to get it wrong. Be really interested to watch the 3500 mile review when you upload it.
Thanks GDad 👍 I haven’t ridden the non powered version but I’m sure it’s the same geometry. The only addition is the powered rear wheel and the wider tube for the battery. I’ve just got back from a very comfortable 70 miles on mine, much of which was without power.
Hi Roy, nice video, well done. Can you tell me the distance between the inside of the rear forks please. I have a Tacx Flux S Smart trainer and need to know whether it will fit so can use during bad weather🤔
Thanks, Keith. I’ve just popped out and measured it for you. It’s 140mm between the rear fork mounting points and it’s a through axle. Do bear in mind that this is the CGR electric. I measured without taking the rear wheel out, so if you want an ultra accurate measurement let me know. I think indoors is a good plan at the moment 🥶
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy I just checked it out and should be fine. The width was a lot smaller than I expected. Your videos are very informative, keep them coming👍😊
@@RideWithRoy FYI..I will have to take the wheel off and the bike will then be held by skewers through the back forks so the emotor will be of no assistance, the trainer will dictate the power output ie hills or downhills..however no wind in the face🙄😊
Glad to hear it, Keith, that would be pointless😂. You’ll have to get a big fan and stand under the shower to get a realistic experience. I’ve not gone down the indoor route yet, but it may have to come. My son is very keen on Zwift and keeps recommending it to me.
I was watching the ride bit of this when a motorbike revved hard under my window. I flinched and started to look back over my shoulder before I caught myself on. Looks like a great bike, but I live in France and that bit about sending it back to be fixed rather puts the kybosh on it. Looks like Lapierre for me. Still X35, though.
I think anything with the X35 is good, John. I only reviewed the Ribble because that what I have. Having said that, I am pretty sure Ribble would sort out local support for any warranty requirements. I saw a Willie with X35 recently and that looked a classy machine. Where are you in France? I have a place in 87190.
@@RideWithRoy I'm in the top right-hand corner, almost in Germany. Wonderful cycling country. Re the Ribble, I'm getting on a bit but I want to go on doing 200k day-rides, so I reckon to use the X35 app to turn the motor on when my heart hits its allowed max. For 200k, though, I need to fit a saddlebag, and the carbon seatpost on the Endurance SLe is a bit iffy in that respect. The Lapierre is heavier, but it will be able to carry my kit without me worrying about something breaking. I can compensate for the extra bike weight by losing the 4 kilos of extra gut I've gained during lockdown, and this vile Spring.
Hi Roy..great video as per👍is there any chance you could make a video of the process of taking the front and rear wheel off in case of punctures? Am not used to through axles especially on the rear🤔 if you could it would be much appreciated😊
Thank you for an excellent review. I’m contemplating an E road bike. My Giant Stance E MTB is amazing but I miss the road riding. I ride at my at my own pace, but there is a thrill of going quickly. I’m really convinced about the bike up the hills but what about pushing harder on the flat ? I appreciate it’s not as quick as a standard road bike, but how hard is it to travel at 15-20 mph ? I think beyond the EU the motor has a higher ‘cut out’ speed. Appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
Thanks, David, that’s much appreciated. I’m not a fast rider so not best placed to talk about speed - I’m more interested in distance. However, I chose the CGR as I wanted to ride both tracks and road, so needed the gravel spec, for which the trade off is weight. On the flat I can easily maintain 18-19 mph, but drop down to assisted speeds on inclines. The benefit of assistance is that you reach the cut off speed more quickly and once there it’s relatively easy to maintain. The good news is that the carbon Ribble SL-e, which I believe is only 10.8 kg, would certainly appear to be able to give you the speed and thrill you need. In fact, When launched, Ribble were claiming it to be the lightest e bike in the world. I know there are SL-e owners subscribing to this channel so hopefully someone can offer some advice.
@@RideWithRoy Thank you. I’ll checkout the SL e. I went to see a Obea gain today, was very impressed. I’m sure they’ll be something in the garage after Christmas.
I looked at the Gain and also liked it. From memory, it’s about the same weight as the CGR. The only issue at present is that Ribble are letting down customers by multiple misses of delivery promises. They are putting this down to component supplies, which I guess other manufacturers may also be experiencing. Good luck with whatever you choose.
I am pleased to be able to update on my comments about Ribble deliveries. The subscriber that had been let down contacted me, this afternoon, to say that Ribble now have the parts and are building next week. This as good as meets the original promise. Well done Ribble for pulling out the stops 👍
Roy I spoke with you before when I congratulated your video::this is the bike I need but I have a sizing dilemma the size guide puts me into an XS at 65 inch tall but with leg length 31.5 inch dare I go up to a S frame. Would appreciate your thoughts on this Reg Bryan Donald
Good morning, Reg. While your leg length can be compensated for with saddle height, I would be more concerned with reach. I am about to make and update video after 3000 miles on the bike. I will mention size in that I have considered whether I could have gone for size S. I did find that to have the saddle in the correct position for my 82cm inside leg I had it fully back on the rails. I have overcome that by using an offset saddle post. If you go for the S you could compensate for any stretch issues by fitting a shorter stem. I am fairly short in my torso so not so flexible in the upper body. I find the XS comfortable and the equivalent of the size S of my Triban, so on balance feel it was the correct choice for me. The good thing is that Ribble do offer their 30 day return feature, so if you have made a mistake you can return the bike for a restocking fee, plus carriage charges. Of course, that puts you back at the start of the order lead time, so you’ll want to get it right first time. The only thing I don’t like about the XS is there isn’t much room within the frame for accessories such as frame bags and bottles, so if you plan lots of touring this would be a consideration. I get around this by fitting a rear rack. I hope this has been of some help, Reg, but feel free to email me on ridingwithroy@gmail.com if you wish to discuss in more detail.
@ride with roy, i just wanted to thank you for this video. My father underwent chemo therapy two years ago and has been trying to rebuild his stamina after this treatment. I sent him a link to your video and he decided to purchase one. With covid, this has taken quite a while to arrive, but now that it has, we have been enjoying rides together for a few weeks now. I cannot express how much of a joy it is for me to ride with my 70 year old father! Thank you! Without your video, he would never have even considered it, now we have discovered a shared love for cycling. 🚴♂️🚴♂️🚴♂️
What a wonderful message to start the weekend with, James. It was worth making what was my very first video just for this. Thank you so much for telling me about it. I’ve just turned 69 so close in age to your dad. I love to ride with my son, where we are more like mates than father and son. The good thing about the e assist is that your father can adjust the amount of power he uses as his strength increases. I wish you many more miles together and please pass on my best wishes to your dad
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy. Yes it's been really nice for both of us. We tried to ride together on a normal bike a few months ago and he could barely make it 5 miles. This week he has done a 22 mile ride and another 17 miler just yesterday! The ribble helps level us up so that i can pretty much take him on any terrain. It's opened up a whole new world for us both! I'm going to try and build his stamina up slowly so that we can go away somewhere in the summer, maybe try Alpe d'Huez, who knows 😋
Thanks again, keep making your videos 👍👍
@@jameslazer819 🤞
Thank you very much Roy for this video, I'm 78 years of age, and I have got an E/Small Ribble CGR AL e, based on the recommendation. I am very pleased with it. I've watched several of your videos, and find them very encouraging. I live in Scotland so there is no shortage of hills.
Thanks, Geoffrey, I’m pleased you are as happy with the Ribble as I am.
I ride a Salsa Confluence with the same Mahle 35+ system. Like you I wanted an ebike that not only looked like my normal road bike but had the same basic geometry and fit. Plus, I wanted a system that HELPED me on the hills but still made me huff and puff a bit on the longer climbs. One improvement on my Confluence; in addition to the power button on the top tube it also has a thumb switch on the handlebar. Changing assist levels is just arrow up, arrow down sort of thing.
Good thoughtful review.
@@sfdint thanks. I ride a non powered bike most of the time and sometimes question my need for the e assist. However, I’ve recently had my first experience of Covid so was grateful for the Ribble during my first few recovery rides.
Ordered one of these bikes about 6 weeks ago after loads of research. Just watched your excellent review and now convinced I’ve ordered the right bike. Thanks very much for the review which I found both incredibly informative but also entertaining. I’m approaching 70 and have done about 5 coast to coasts and the LEOG on my Cannondale gravel bike but after a 3 day bike packing trip with my son in the Dales I’ve decided that a little bit of assistance on the really steep stuff is now needed and I can’t wait for the bike to be delivered. Keep up the good work and thanks once again for a top review.
Thanks, Rory. That’s an impressive cycling pedigree. I shall be 70 late next year, so similar age to you. I was out on the Ribble yesterday but will use the Triban today. It’s great to be able to choose the bike that suits my energy level. My Son used to have to wait for me at the top of some hills, but now now I’m waiting for him. I’m about to make a 3500 mile update, which will all be positive except for one minor niggle - the paint chips too readily. I know you will love your new bike.
Thanks to Roy I have made the move to a used Orbea Gain f40. Totally delighted, those very hilly routes I used to avoid are a thing of the past. The ebikemotion is almost silent and my most recent outing of 32 miles and 800ft of climbing only used 33% battery. Left in level mode one Green and only used the level 2/Amber on steep hills.
Brilliant, thanks. I just had my CGR al e (Ultegra) delivered and I love it. I'm a fit 58 cyclist and live and cycle Dartmoor. The bike gives me access to the moor when I need some push up the hills, but for the rest of the ride the motor is off as I'm more than 15mph on a light bike that feels good on road. On gravel, it feels ok, but I'm not a fan of gravel really so difficult to judge. Loving your videos
Thanks, Michael. Even if you’re not keen on gravel, your CGR will provide the opportunity if ever you spot a less than perfect surface. I’ve been riding the Tempest over summer but I’ll be fitting the mudguards to my CGR next week and using it more over winter.
Which Tempest? Yes, I'm also looking for something light for next year to replace my very old (15yr), but very nice Racelight. Something I've realised with the CGR is how frame geometry has come on, it handles so much better
It’s the Planet X Tempest Titanium. I made a couple of videos about the build, of which this is the final one ruclips.net/video/lD3EojZAT1A/видео.html It’s almost as light as carbon but (for me) a much smoother feel.
Hi Roy, thanks for road-testing the Ribble Ebike - I also have one! 🚴🏻♂️
Yes, What your reporting - is exactly as I have! 😃
I can say, having tried one it would be ideal and as you recover from your COVID reduce the battery assist to what you feel comfortable with. Brilliant for making hills easier work in your situation.
One of the best bike videos I've ever seen. Thank you.
Thanks, Tony, that means a lot 👍
Very comprehensive review. I bought a kit and converted an old Raleigh bike during lock down to get me back into cycling, and now I am fully retired use both the kit bike and a standard tourer on rides. Many of my fellow riders are in their late 60’s and over and use electric assist. Audax are welcoming to electric assist as well as CTC. I may take the plunge and buy one of these as I don’t like the huge battery on my kit bike.
I have watched this one and the range extender one Roy and I think I can say they are two of the very best RUclips information films I have seen on ANY subject. Thanks very much. Well done!
Blimey, that’s praise! Thank you!
@@RideWithRoy Justly deserved Roy and again thank YOU. However, I am 66 in a minute and am pretty desperate to continue my cycling life. I went onto the Ribble Bike Builder after 3 of your videos. I didn't alter the specification at all and they gave me a dispatch date of February Twenty twenty THREE! So, Orbea Gain D50 for me I think. I need assistance now! VERY disappointed with Ribble I'm afraid.
I agree, their deliveries have really gone to the dogs - and that’s if they even keep to them. Fortunately, the X35 system is now available with many other brands so at least we can vote with our wallets. The Orbea was a strong contender for me and the only thing that swung it to Ribble was their ‘Bike Builder’ facility. However, had I been faced with that ludicrous lead time I would have purchased the Orbea.
It was great to hear from you again Roy, reassuring that your brother has reached the same conclusion as me with Giant and hub motors, my motor was Yamaha but doing the same as Bosch.
I went to my bike shop this afternoon to possibly change saddle. I found out they have a saddle fitting machine, where they key in my weight, height, riding time each ride etc, then sat me down on a small bench with a sensor pad, I had to stand up and sit down 3 times, then we saw the alignment of my hips, we saw that my right hip was not in line with my left hip. This coincides with my walking gait since the accident, I am still wobbling like a penguin.
I bought a new saddle from Specialized as recommended by machine, I have fitted it but I am still getting the discomfort, there is another one with a bit softer padding so I will try that .
Take care
Alastair
Sounds high tech, Alastair. I hope you get it sorted to get some comfort. I think the crank drive systems all suffer from some gearbox friction.
Brilliant as always Roy. This vid taught me a lot, glad to say i got a Orbea Gain, D50, and like you i can now keep up with my son. So glad i watch this vid before i brought an e bike. Great advice, thanks very much Roy.
Thanks Tony. The keeping up with my son comment is now redundant, Tony, you’ll see why in the next video 😃
Roy great video - you taught me a lot and that I was using my Scott eride with x50 incorrectly - thank you
Fantastic - I'd done loads of research and was about to pull the trigger but this video seals the deal, excellent summary - thanks very much!!
Ben Webley Thanks, Ben, I’m pleased it helped.
I enjoyed this Roy, thanks for sending me the link... I enjoyed the detail you went into talking about the bike, and it was good to see it in action on all terrains and up hill... Cheers 👊🏻
Brilliant video, really useful. Answered all the questions I had about the bike. Thanks.
Thanks for that. Covered everything I wanted to know
Well Roy took the plunge last night and ordered a new Ribble Al e in the same colour, spec and tyres: only difference is I went for red handlebar tape. When it arrives I will sell my old giant and swap seats over. Thanks for all your advice, think Ribble should be sending you a nice Christmas box!!! Roll on the end of January!!
Sounds great, Colin - I must have missed the red tape option 😂. Looks like Ribble have sold quite a few bikes from this review. I have no connection with Ribble, other than being a satisfied customer, and seek nothing from them personally. However, I did ask them if they would be interested in putting up a small giveaway/discount for my subscribers, to celebrate the huge number of views it has had and the orders they received as a result. That was a month ago and still no response either way. In fairness, they are extremely busy with orders. Keep in touch and let me know how you get on with the new bike.
Hi Roy, great video and information - Have ordered Ribble CGR based on this and other videos and research - arriving in October 2021 !! very excited
Thanks, Steve. I’m pleased it helped you to make a decision. I am about to make an update as I approach 4000 miles. The only thing I plan to change is the Marathon tyres. I do find them excellent on gravel but quite scary in slippery conditions. The bike itself is excellent and I still enjoy riding it. October will be here before you know it - enjoy.
@@RideWithRoy Hi Roy, I've ordered the Marathon tyres so I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on alternatives
@@steveblood3722 it really depends on what type of riding you will be doing, Steve. The Marathons are brilliant tyres for most surfaces, except for slippery conditions. I’m going to try the Continental Contact Plus, although I can’t find stock at the moment. I would say if you are intending to ride the CGR throughout the winter you may be best to order it on the standard tyres and then upgrade yourself. However, if you won’t ride in these conditions, I would stick to the Marathons. This is just my opinion and I’m sure others may differ. I’m not a timid rider by any means, but the Marathons scare me on anything less than dry.
Thank you for this super helpful and comprehensive review Roy!
Great video Roy. I'm loving my Ribble. They make great bikes.
Fantastic video. Thanks very much for that.
Roy, you have sold this bike to me! You covered everything I needed to know about. We are the same height and I was puzzled about the size of bike I would need. I ride in the Peak District, mainly off the road, and age (61 years) is taking its toll. Many thanks!
Thanks George. I’m approaching 68 and buying this bike is the best thing I did. The Ribble Bike Builder facility will enable you to spec the bike to suit your needs. I would imagine that you may choose a different group set due to the predominantly off road nature of your riding. Enjoy!
Ride With Roy Hi Roy, I visited the Ribble Showroom in Birmingham today and purchased my CGR ALe!
George Loizou excellent! What colour?
Ride With Roy Grey. Delivery 29 November! I told them you were the inspiration and showed them your RUclips video. The sales assistant, Edward, thought he remembered you!
George Loizou grey was my other choice. I’ll have to buy some Ribble shares at this rate. We’ll have to meet up for a ride sometime👍
Thanks once again Roy for a great video when you visited the 2nd WW cemetery and paid tribute to those incredible young men and women who died so that we can enjoy the freedoms we do today, which among many includes the opportunity to take part in recreational cycling. My father was one of Ian Flemings ‘Little Red Indians’ and served in 30 AU combined commando force whose motto was. Attain by Surprise. He never talked about his experiences.
On the cycling front thanks for the tip about the frame on the Ribble being susceptible to chips. I’ll get the Helli tape ready. Keep the videos coming. Some help with the Garmin would be appreciated.
I can honestly say I’d never heard of your dad’s unit, Rory, so did some reading. It struck me that their methods seemed to have more akin to the modern SAS than their founders the LRDG did. He was certainly a very courageous man, and modest too by the sound of it. Now to the chips. A friend with a Ribble has just asked them about touch up paint. Ribble are happy to supply but they want £20 a pot!!! In my book that’s outrageous. If someone is spending over £2k on a bike, the least they can do is supply some complimentary touch up to keep their product looking good. It’s not as if they have been struggling with sales. I have the red colour and bought a £1.50 pot of acrylics that is a perfect match.
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy I agree with you £20 for a small pot of touch up paint is stupid, as you say the bike is close £2400 and delivery is nearly 6 months so a complimentary pot of touch up would seem like really good customer relations, maybe that sort of thing is well and truly in the past. I’ve had helli tape on my Canondale for over three years now and it still looks as good as new so I shall be applying that as soon as I get the bike. Thanks once again. Ride safe
Super informative review. Many thanks.
Hi Roy, very helpful review. I'm currently considering buying a Ribble Ribble Endurance SL-e in the next couple of days.
Thanks, Ian,. Good choice. I chose the CGR AL-e due to the mixture of surfaces I like to ride on. The SL-e is a superb choice for road riding. I have just completed a battery range test and will publish this in the next week or so. The result was startling, for all the right reasons, and will be even better on the SL-e
Hi Roy thanks for the review have ordered bike Ribble will let you know how it goes back to cycling after accident ten years ago hopefully this bike will take the pressure off my back roll on the spring cheers take care
Sorry to hear of your injury, Andrew, that's a long time to be out of cycling. Just as well the e-assist came along, as I'm sure it's going to be a great help. Good luck and I look forward to hearing how you get on.
Very good review. Thankyou very much.
Great review - many thanks
Hi Roy, I’ve just been watching this Ribble video again, 3rd or 4th time, the bike is similar to my new Cannondale Topstone Neo SL1. But I have Shimano Grx 11 speed equivalent to Ultegra and 42mm tyres. Had the bike over a month now and was getting 60 miles on a charge, but I have been using it more in neutral power and since last battery charge I have done 140 miles and battery state is now 38%. With the motor in rear hub there is no drag compared to the Giant Fathom with motor in crank. I used to struggle to pedal Giant if battery died before end of trip.
I find bike is very smooth although thinking of another saddle.
These gravel bikes are great with the state of British roads now, since my accident last year I found riding my Synapse I was very vulnerable and frightened on rougher surfaces.
I part exchanged Giant and sold Synapse on Fleebay
That’s a brilliant performance, Alastair. It’s shameful that we now need a gravel bike to ride on some UK roads. My brother has a Bosch powered Giant and he is disappointed that riding without power is not a realistic option. My go to saddle is the Selle Italia Man Flow. They don’t seem to make this anymore but the Gel Flow seems to be similar.
No need to explain your choice of bike. For me it’s all about the fun. I find myself riding much more often because it’s more fun.
Great stuff I want to get one maybe secondhand depending on price. Much appreciated 😊
If you find one, make sure to ask the seller to show you how many charge cycles it has had - this is available via the app.
Hi Roy great video, nice to see an honest review of what’s looks like a great bike.
Do you feel any kind of additional resistance from the motor when it is not assisting you? I’d be interested to know whether you felt it would be more difficult to maintain speeds over 15mph compared to a non ebike weighing the same amount?
Thanks, Dave. No, there is no resistance at all when the motor disengages, and it’s hardly noticeable. I haven’t noticed any difficulty keeping my speed above the cut off and the additional weight seems to help once momentum gained - and you reach that speed faster. If I was with a group maintaining 18mph + I would have a problem keeping up, but that’s more about me than the bike. However, although they would get ahead of me on the flat, I would regain my position on the hills.
How easy is it to cruise at 25kmh on max assist? Thinking of using this bike for a 10mile commute and wondering how much easier it will be compared to a normal road bike.
Much easier. It will cut out at max speed but will keep you there. Just below max speed and on full assist it will make a huge difference.
The new specialized creo is lovely, the carbon frame starts at £5500 and another 350 for the range extender. Expensive . I’ll start saving .
Excellent review on a good bike, well done
Hi Roy, Just watched the video as if only recently looked at Ribble bikes, I really enjoyed it. It answered a question I had about e bikes doing all the work for you. Wasnt expecting to see my local area either, I go down that hill more than I go up it, an E bike would certainly help!
I’m in Barrowby, Paul, so if ever you want to have a close up look just let me know.
Tremendous review. Thank you!
What a fantastic review Roy, thank you.
Thank you Darren. That was my first effort so hopefully get a bit better by now.
You've just described me perfectly! In my 50's now, getting a bit tired with bad knees. I've been looking seriously at the Al e so I reckon it's pretty similar to your bike in a lot of respects. I need a more upright riding position now though due to arthritic joints creeping in (particularly wrists).
When I get out on the bike, it's anywhere between 25-45 miles (without electricity) but I'm not getting on it as often as I should because I'm struggling a bit now.
Great review though.
great review
Just got my first electric bike with the same motor, once I watched your video it seems a lot easier to use the iwoc one controls, cheers.👍🚴
That’s good to hear, Tricia. The iWoc button is the cause of most confusion with the system. I’ve had several people contact me, saying they are disappointed with the bike. Once they realise that the power won’t advance without two presses, and understand the meaning of each light, they love it. I wish you many miles on your new bike and thanks for taking the time to comment 👍
I also have an iwoc three on the handlebars,but that's for another day.👍🚴
@@triciamcintyre4947 nice bike, Tricia. I know someone with the handlebar system. It's easily to hand in that position.
I went and had a fitting at BLUEWATER showrooms in Kent as a result of this video. The bike will be far better than I deserve but its a one off purchase. The question is has anyones bikes started arriving yet. I went for the bog standard one with slightly narrower bars, ordered mudguards and rack. Your water bottles are they Ribble ones. Just waiting on my cycle to work vouchers
No, I’m not that posh 😀 I just use bog standard bottles.
PS Have you found any Cheat codes/devices to override the mph limit for the Sle/ CGR ALe? We have them for the Turbo Levo's
As far as I know the Ebikemotion system is not hackable, Paul.
Hi Roy, great review thanks as it is the e-bike I am looking at. As a 60 year old post COVID-19 patient who was on a ventilator in March 2020 I think I need a little help!
I am looking for a daily commute bike, 12 miles each way but with a long hard hill to climb both directions. Currently only able to climb at 6mph in bottom gear! However, I like to push on the flat and maintain a reasonable speed.
I was also looking at the Boardman e bike with the full back up of the Halfords network.
I am wondering about service options as I live in Dorset.
Any good pointers for me?
Thanks
Malcolm Cumber thanks, Malcolm. Sorry to hear you have gone through a terrible time and pleased to hear you came out of the other side. I don’t know anything about the Boardman, or Halfords expertise with electric bikes. I do know that the Boardman has the Fazua Evation system and the Ribble features the Ebikemotion X35. Here is a good article that evaluates both ebikechoices.com/fazua-evation-vs-x35-ebikemotion/ I would imagine that both perform in a similar way. The reason I chose the Ribble CGR ALe was the ability to build my own spec, together with their reputation. I also found I could get a higher spec for the money. As far as support goes, I can’t speak for Halfords. It would be worth checking if they would repair the electrical system in store or have to send it away. I did have a problem with mine and Ribble arranged collection/return at their cost and also offered to pay a local bike shop to make any required adjustments. They kept me informed and it was only away for a week. For info, since this review I have ridden 71miles and 1700ft of climbing on one charge and still had about 20% to spare. Whichever you choose, I am sure it will be ideal for your needs. As you recover you will be able to use less power and increase your fitness. I am about to review my rear carrier and bag, plus in the next few weeks I shall be carrying out a long ride to see how much I can get out of the main battery, and then carry on with the optional range extender, so if you subscribe you will see these when published. I wish you well in your recovery. Roy
Ribble's range of e bikes is frightening from top of the range endurance Sle with etap or dura ace di2 all the way to an urban ALe with flat bars and pannier rack and guards, there will be a bike within the range to suit.
Thanks for the great review.
Hi Roy
Looking at the Ribble site for this bike it puts my 5’8” body in the small frame size. This being said would a medium be far too big for me?
They usually advise going smaller if on the cusp. It really depends how flexible you are as you will need to stretch more. You could get around to some extent by ordering with a shorter stem. It really depends on those factors, but if well into the small frame size chart I would go small. I have the extra small and could possibly push it to small, but Ribble sizing is unique, so their small would be someone else's medium. If you can go medium it will give you more frame space for bike packing kit etc.
Great review by the way. I test road the Cairn with fatzu system but found the bike a little heavy. Keen on the ribble but quite a trek to get to the store to size one. Most of my bikes have been small as I am 5.8 30 inseam. Im 65 so find I need a little assistance now.
Thanks, Rick. The Ribble sizing is a little different to other brands but their size guide is pretty accurate. I hear good reports on the Orbea Gain. It might be worth seeing if they have a dealer near you. It uses the same Ebikemotion system.
Very practical and helpful review.
Thanks OJ 👍
Great video. I have problem, that I need to stay under 146bpm because of heart problem. Do you think it is possible on this bike? Or It is too weak motor in steep hills?
It’s going to depend on the hills, and the speed you want to travel up them. This system does have an app setting that will trigger the power when the rider reaches a pre defined HR. If you want to put some power in for fitness and you’re not climbing greater than around 12% inclines, then the lightness and available power should work for you. If not, a more powerful crank drive might be better.
Hi Roy, loved the review, just wondering, I have to have low gears on my bikes now, have to work out gear inches etc. this bike doesn't go low enough for what I normally use. 1. could I change the rear cassette perhaps to get lower gears, would this interfere with the rear hub/motor 2. or as it's an assist bike the will the motor get me up the hills with the present gearing. just wondering before I take the plunge. thank you
Thank, Julie Ann. The assist is going to give you the affect of lower gearing, so I doubt you will need a different cassette. High power on your lowest gear should get you up most climbs without too much effort. I have an 11-32 cassette on mine, which is fine for me, while on my unpowered bikes I have 11-34 to assist on the steeper climbs. The standard Shimano 105 with a medium cage will allow an 11-34 to be fitted and there should be no reason why it couldn’t be upgraded, but you would need to speak with the manufacturer to be sure and have the upgrade added to your order.
Hi Roy. Thanks for this review. I do have a question which will help me decide if this is the bike for me. There's 1 quite steep hill on my ride to work and as I don't want to arrive sweaty I need the bike to do most of the work on that. I don't need a great range as it's only 6 miles and the power assist would be mostly for that hill. I just need to be sure the motor will provide enough assistance to make it like normal cycling on that hill. Thanks in advance.
You could buy a more powerful e bike that will carry you up the hill with no work, but it will be harder on the non assist parts of your commute. The e assist will get me up the 12% near my home with non sweaty effort and full power. If I assist it with some work it will get me up faster. So I doubt you will run out of power and it will be an easy ride on the non powered parts of your commute. I hope that helps.
Hi Roy, I’m coming up to 1000 miles on my CGR, very pleased with it. Just one question: I’ve noticed that a blue light sometimes comes on and I can’t then scroll up the power range. On a couple of occasions I’ve come to a dead stop on a hill and had to go back down to go back through the power settings. Any suggestions? All the best, Simon.
Hello Simon, glad to hear you’re getting the miles in. It sounds like the flashing light is the fault warning, which I call pink. The iWoc will flash blue when the app is connecting but that won’t affect any functions. I had a consistent fault warning whenever I connected the range extender. This was due to a voltage imbalance which was cured by a firmware update. However, that was over a year ago and only on a batch of systems, so shouldn’t affect yours. I very occasionally still get the ‘pink’ light and clear it by the universal long press to switch off and then on again. If it is happening regularly it could be a fault. To establish this, ride with the app connected until you experience the warning again. If there is a genuine fault, the app will show a code. It is also worth noting that Ebikemotion can connect to your app to see the code and give appropriate advice. This link explains the process and the codes www.ebikemotion.com/web/error-codes-reference/. In summary, it may be nothing with an easy cure or if a fault you will need to identify it and contact Ribble. Let me know how it goes.
well informed review..Thx!
Very good review 🚴
Hello Roy, my wife and I are thinking about taking a road/bike trip from Colorado to New Mexico (~800 km) and to LA (~1500 km). We love your video and the bike and are considering getting one. I am wondering if it’s possible to add additional cargo racks to the bike? Second, would you recommend the bike for long distance riding?
Thanks, Chen. The bike is great for long trips, especially as it provides the option to use gravel paths. Clearly, the facility to charge the battery each evening will be key. The addition of a range extender battery will help, depending on your daily distance. It would be worth watching my Range Extender test to give you some idea of what this will help you achieve. Yes, you can fit cargo racks to the front and rear and the fittings are already there. I am in the process of editing a review of my rear rack and bag, so should have this uploaded by the weekend. My setup is just for day trips, but will demonstrate how it works. The important point is that the inboard mounted disks provide greater choice of rack. Enjoy!
Great video thanks
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Hi Roy. I'm considering buying this bike, but have a question regarding the battery. Is the battery removable and if not, what happens when the battery expires or fails?
Hello, Nige. No, the battery isn’t removable for charging. Bear in mind that I get 100 miles from each full charge, so properly cared for you can potentially ride 50,000 miles, which would probably be new bike time. If the battery does need a change you can get this done by any nearby mechanic that handles the X35 system. Having said this, access is by a cover below the downtube and it’s a plug-in device, so it looks easy enough to DIY.
Hello, great review..Both my misses and myself are looking to buy one of these from Ribble.
One question, how noisy is the motor when it kicks in?
Thanks. I made a specific review on exactly what you ask and let you hear the noise. But it's very quiet
Hi Roy. New subscriber here! Thanks for your videos - very helpful. Please can I have your opinion - I’m about to choose to buy either a Ribble sle Road bike or the cgr a l-e like yours. The decision isn’t easy! My question is - is the cgr good enough to keep up with unassisted road bikes or would you go for the sl-e? I fancy the all round capabilities of the cgr but don’t want to get dropped by my friends when we go out on the road. Hope my question makes sense! Thanks.
Great to have you with us, thank you. Your question makes perfect sense but always difficult to advise someone without knowing them, but I’ll try. If your friends are fairly fast then you will need to factor in the speed you need to ride at after the assistance cuts out at around 15.5 mph. My son will average 17.5 mph over 80 miles and, although light for an e bike, the CGR Al - e is heavier than the SL-e, so will require a lot more energy to keep up with that sort of speed. Where you will gain is on hills and into wind. After that you will need to consider how much off road you will do. If your friends are riding road bikes then I would be going for the SL-e. One factor to consider is the drive system. Ribble are still fitting the original Mahle X35 system, which has now been susperceded by the X20. mahle-smartbike.com/x20/. This is a lighter and more sophisticated drive that I would be aiming for if I was in the market. Only a few manufacturers are building this in at the moment, Scott being one. If you are set on a Ribble, it would be worth checking with them regarding their plans for the X20. I know this has probably introduced more questions that answers, but I hope it will help.
Hi Roy. Great video. Thinking about touring & overnight stays & assuming I don’t have the Extender, exactly how close to a mains socket (13amp, I a guess) do I have to store my bike? In other words, how long is the charging cable?
Thanks for the question, Alan. Just measured it and mine is 2.6m.
@@RideWithRoy is there anything daunting about removing the rear wheel Roy?
@@alanwhittaker109 it’s a through axle as opposed to a quick release, so you’ll need the correct Allen key in your kit. The only difference is one push plug and socket. This video explains it well ruclips.net/video/Kx5T6s-2gQ8/видео.html. Note the washer positioning, which is a through axle thing and nothing to do with it being electric. It’s worth a practice run so that you are ready for an on road puncture repair, but I find through axle much easier than the QR.
Hi Roy, Great video, Many thanks. How easy is it to take the rear wheel out/back in, should you get a puncture?
Fife on a Bike , thanks. Easier than I thought it would be! Apart from just pulling one plug from its socket, it’s no different to any through axle (which I find easier than quick release)
Great review man shoot I love this bike
Great review Roy and very informative. Was just wondering will you do one with all your gear on and give us a good tour around it. When they bike is in neutral does it feel like an ordinary bike, no drag? Thanks and keep them coming!!!
Thanks, Colin. I’m just about to finish off a look at my lighting setup, so should upload on Friday. I am also editing some footage I took in the summer, when we were allowed to roam, of a visit to some interesting WW2 graves and a look around a Knights Templar Preceptory. I also have plans to do something on route planning, together with riding with some local groups - when we can ride as a group again. I am always pleased to respond to ideas for future videos, but bear in mind I only review what I own, so reviews are limited to that. Thanks again for taking the time to comment. As for drag, there is none with the Ebikemotion X35. Once you reach the cut off speed it seamlessly disengages and makes it easy to continue under your own steam. My brother has a Bosch mid drive system on his bike and he does notice drag. He likens it to having an old style dynamo being driven by the wheel - but that might not mean anything to you 😂. This means that he has to ride with power on all of the time and can’t comfortably ride above the 15.5 mph limit.
@@RideWithRoy ha ha I remember the dynamo very well, if you showed someone that set up today they'd think it was some sort of torture training device!!! Looking forward to reviews, am waiting on cyclescheme to get back to me (too long a wait) and then i'll get my order into Ribble. Same spec as yours but may go for fatter tyres as i have plenty of 28s at home. Do you feel the 35 marathons do it all for you? Any punctures or offs? How do they perform on gravel or forest tracks? Sorry for all questions i'm sure everyone whos interested in the bike finds your videos invaluable as Ribbles are a bit same old, but customer reviews are interesting.
Funny you should ask that, Colin. I find the 35’s are perfect for me and wouldn’t want to go wider or narrower. That’s because 75% of my riding is on road (although some are like tracks in Lincolnshire!) when I am on tracks the tyres don’t give me any cause for nervousness. However, a couple of weeks ago, on a completely dry day, I had a nasty fall at a country lane junction. The bike was totally unscathed but I had a nasty road rash injury to my thigh. There was no warning, it just went from under me. A post crash inspection revealed crushed carrots on the road! Who knew carrots are such a good lubricant - I might start using them on my chains. The truth is that even a mountain bike tyre wouldn’t have gripped on that slick surface, so I can’t blame the tyres. I might put up a short video of the crash as a warning against riding over carrots😂 I’m pleased you remember the dynamo. All well and good, until stopping at a junction the lights would go out...
Have a good day and feel free to ask away.
I’m looking at purchasing the hybrid ebike as it seems better for casual use as well as weekend trips. I worried the racer bike handles won’t be comfortable for a newbie like me. However I’m tempted with the gravel option. Which would you recommend?
It’s a difficult one to recommend. I prefer the drop handlebars as there are more positions available to move the hands to to avoid cramp etc. When I ride my straight bar mountain bike I find it uncomfortable. However, I know riders who prefer the straight bars. The best advice it to try out both types, if you can. Not just a sit on but a proper ride. There are gravel bikes available in both bar types, so you can have all the benefits of a gravel bike in the bar type of your choice.
Hi Roy has the CGR ALe got tubeless tyre option? How does it perform in the mud?? along with my new Ribble SLe have a Specialized Levo Turbo FSR Fattie full suspension thinking of selling to fund a GCR ALe !! thanks Paul
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They don’t show a tubeless option on the bike builder, so you’d need to check with Ribble. I haven’t ridden it in deep mud, but soggy tracks are no problem. It really depends on how extreme you want to go. I run both the Gravel and the MTB. I would say the CGR is a capable ride on gravel and light mud, but there’s nothing like a mountain bike for rough terrain.
Hi Roy
Great review.I have a bike almost exactly like yours except I went for the Sram single.I also recognise some of the route you show on the video as I live just south of Grantham
Thanks SD. I’m guessing you do more tracks than roads with the Sram. I was at the March Hare one day when I met several Witham Wheelers riders with electric CGR’s. Might you have been one of them? I actually find south of Grantham more interesting to ride, in fact I’m out that way tomorrow. If ever you want to meet up for a ride just email me.
I'm 5'9 and thats between two sizes medium and small. I wont be growing any more which one would I choose?
I think it would very much depend on your flexibility and core strength. If, like me, you prefer a more relaxed riding position then I would choose the small. If, however, you are more athletic, with good core strength, the medium would suit. If you are near enough to a Ribble store they would set you up on their static bike, which is what I did. The stem length can also be specified, so a medium with a shorter stem may suit, depending on your build. So, no easy answer but I hope this helps.
@@RideWithRoy great answer cheers!
i cant find the range extender video did you get round to doing it
I did. It’s this one ruclips.net/video/8NY-NF9KKJA/видео.html RUclips only show a selection of videos but if you go to the videos tab you will see all of them 👍
Super review Roy, many thanks. It's helped me decide it's the one for me as long as delivery timing is reasonable in the current climate??
Thanks, John. I hope delivery isn’t a problem as I have heard of a few people whose order promises haven’t been met by Ribble. I had to wait months for mine, and that was in ‘normal’ times. To be fair to Ribble, I think most brands are in the same boat. Good luck 🤞
Hi Roy, What is your inside leg measurements I know its a personal question but I'm only wondering about a frame I should order I think I'm between 5'7 to 5'8 so I may get away with a small frame as these are available at the moment. The small frames are not available until the month of May.
No problem with that, Madz, although I’ll give it to you in metric. My height is 169cm and inside leg 82cm.
@@RideWithRoy Cheers Roy, I think I will be ok with extra small too .
@@madr4yes May is pretty good availability. It will soon come round and will, hopefully, coincide with better weather and more freedom.
@@madr4yes if you are flexible enough to stretch out a little the small with probably be okay. And you can always go for a shorter stem if needs be.
Hi Roy great review. Am currently looking at this bike and liked to hear your tyre choice. Just to clarify, the motor only kicks in under 15 mph if it feels you pressure the system or how does it know to assist? am waiting for partial knee replacement and have too many bikes that sit and look at me, currently selling them to finance this move. any downside to the Ribble? a friend has had a gran condo for years and swears by it! Greta channel.
colin small Thanks, Colin, that’s very kind. So long as you are pedalling between zero and 15.5 mph the power will engage. However, the Ebikmotion app allows the three power settings to be adjusted down from the 100% factory setting. This allows you to customise the power settings to suit your need. Those with a heart condition can also link the app to a heart monitor, which will switch the power on once a pre set heart rate is reached. Good luck with the knee replacement. My neighbour has just had one and it has made a huge difference. It’s also a great time to sell used bikes, so I hope that goes well for you 👍
Hi Roy, good video, nice countryside! I have a question about the assistance you get from the ebikemotion system as I'm slightly confused about how it delivers the power to you. Do you find it effectively multiplies the effort you put in by whatever assistance level you've chosen, i.e. a bit like a crank motor with a torque sensor? I know it uses sensors in the hub to work out your cadence and assume the speed you turn the crank affects the power output from the motor?
Thanks, Paul. I don’t have the technical knowledge to give an answer that your question deserves. However, I can point you to this article that seems to explain it well granfondo-cycling.com/ebikemotion-x35-m1-review/. In layman’s terms, I can say that the motor appears to give continuous power in each of three levels. If I select high power I will get high power, regardless of how much I pedal. The variables are how hard I pedal and correct use of gears. As this is a relatively small motor & battery combination, it is designed to assist the rider, and not do it for them. As such, on a 12% hill, for example, I need to use a combination of low gear, high power and pedal power. How much power is applied through the pedals will dictate the speed. In essence, this system is for reasonably fit riders who want some assistance on hills or when tired. The relatively light weight means that the bike can easily be ridden without power. I rode 57 miles last week with no power, as I was with a slower ‘unpowered’ friend. This would be extremely hard work on a heavier crank drive machine. I hope this helps, Paul, but feel free to ask more and I’ll try to help.
Hi Roy, thank you for your excellent bike review. I am around 6ft1, can’t decided if large or XL for ribble bike. Any suggestions?
Cheers, Josh
Thanks, Josh. All I can really say is that Ribble sizing is accurate, but does differ from some manufacturers, so large in another make won’t compare with Ribble’s large. Their advice is that if you are between sizes, go smaller. Of course, the other consideration is how flexible you are. I recommend having chat with Ribble for their advice. They do offer a replacement policy, so you won’t be stuck if the size doesn’t suit you. Sorry I can’t be of more help but maybe some other Ribble owner here can help. There is also a Ribble owners Facebook group, where there is bound to be a similarly tall owner that can help.
Great information Roy , i am 60 years old, been riding bikes for over 30 years and i am considering an e-bike due to not being able to enjoy riding the hills the way i used to and also i have started commuting to work and find fatigue from every day riding to be a difficulty.
i was struggling with deciding between mid drive and hub drive and you have helped me understand which type of e -bike would be best for me
thank you Roy
i have one question
is the battery removable from the down tube?
No, it’s not removable for charging on the Mahle Ebikmotion system, but can be removed for eventual replacement. You would usually need to go for a mid drive to have that. I just pop mine on charge in the garage, but I know not everyone has that facility. It’s also important not to charge any lithium battery in freezing conditions, so outside charging requires more careful management, I shall be making a video on that before winter sets in. The non removable battery and single iWoc control button is the trade-off for not looking like an e bike and being much lighter.
Hi Roy, loving your videos. Looking at an electric bike for commuting to and from work to cut down car use and exercise. It's only about 8 miles, but I was thinking that an electric bike would be handy after a tiring day. I've had hardtail mountain bikes for red and black trails when I was younger, and I also had a road bike which was just too harsh for me. How comfortable is this bike compared to a road bike with thin tyres? I like how lightweight this bike is and looks like a normal bike, but I am not sure if I should go for something like this or go something with front suspension.
Thanks, Rob. I also ride a Cube hardtail so can compare. The Ribble is very comfortable with 35mm tyres running at lower pressure than your thin tyre road bike. Of course, there are limits, so I get the Cube out if conditions are too rough/muddy etc. With this setup, the Ribble is smooth on what passes for Tarmac in the UK and very comfortable, with no harsh road buzz. Personally, I have never contemplated front suspension, even when taking to tracks. As you’ve worked out, any bike with the lightweight X35 hub drive will mean you can easily use your own power on the commute, but switch it on for the times you don’t feel up to it. I also find switching on the power for a fast getaway at traffic lights useful.
Great thorough review. I am really torn between the Ribble Endurance and CGR. Am yet to get a bike fitting from Ribble but I'm coming from riding a hybrid, so which would you say would be a better bike with a more relaxed riding position? Thanks
Thanks, Sharon. I haven’t ridden the Endurance but understand that with the carbon frame it’s designed for road riding over long distances, so the riding position should be as relaxed as the CGR. I think the main question you need to consider is the type of riding you will do. If, like me, you want to explore both roads and tracks, then the CGR would be best. If, however, you are sticking to roads, then the Endurance would seem the best choice. I hope that helps and you enjoy whatever you choose.
@@RideWithRoy thanks Roy. My next decision is whether to go eBike or not! 🙂
Can’t help with that one, Sharon 🙂 I ride both e assist and ‘me power’. The thing I like about e assist, rather than the heavier big battery machines, is I still get a good workout but know I can have some assistance when I get tired. I find that most people with e assist bikes go farther and ride more, so fitness can actually increase. Good luck with whatever you choose.
@@RideWithRoy Likewise. What I liked about the Ribble is that it's light enough even with the battery, to ride like a non eBike bike should I choose to, but it could give me assistance on hills etc. (I suffer a little with Exercise Induced Asthma so I suffer breathing difficulties on hills or when theres a headwind, so extra assistance would be beneficial). I am relatively new to cycling and took it up again this year. I'm not the fittest but I'm gradually getting better. The lighter eMotion eBikes that can potentially be ridden without the electric element as I get fitter also appeals to me.... decisions decisions! :)
Roy!!! - why don't you and your bike come for a visit in Slovenia one day. I am dane living in the most beautiful scenery near Ljubljana. I call it Pogacar wonderland. (he grew up in this region) And - I am gonna buy a Riddle after your review. thanks
I once worked with someone who had lived in Slovenia, so it’s on my list of beautiful places to ride. I’m pleased you found by review useful and hope you enjoy your new Ribble. Which model are you going for?
@@RideWithRoy the same like yours. - btw: can you mount a rack on the bike? I always move around with extra this and that - in fact my office too: I am writer and photographer....slovenia...no place like this. I am writing a cover story for danish cycling magazine about it.
Yes, you can fit front and back. This is a review I did of my day touring setup ruclips.net/video/Er5vhWfw33E/видео.html. I’d love a link to the story when finished, although my Danish is non existent 😂
Great Review
Thanks, Simon 👍
Hi Roy, good review - I have been looking at this bike for a while with this motor. How do you find going up steeper hills, here in North Devon my routes usually include a few steep ones. I find I'm struggling somewhat (60yr but consider myself trim and fit) just feel I need a gentle push up whilst still doing some work. I have read that the emotion system does become less effective the less you pedal eg up steeper inclines 10% plus? Would appreciate your view on this. Cheers Pete 👍
Hello, Pete, thanks for your question. It sounds like you are the perfect candidate for the e assist. The system is a balance between the rider putting some work in, using the gears effectively and the motor assisting. Riders wanting the bike to do it all would be better buying one of the more powerful, but heavier, bikes. I regularly ride 12% hills in the Vale of Belvoir and have no trouble. I can get a workout by working harder, or drop into my lowest gear and pedal slowly - I’ve been known to do the latter when at the end of a long ride or on days when I feel less strong. The only time the system becomes less effective is when the rider doesn’t use the correct gear. If you ride the way you would without power then you will get the full benefit from the motor. As I said in the video, it’s like riding on a day when your legs feel strong. For info, I’m a fit 68 year old but most of my strength is upper body. I can ride long distances, unassisted, but can’t put down a huge amount of power on the pedals. 👍
@@RideWithRoy Hi Roy, I thanks for your reply very informative. I feel this is the bike for me know. Cheers 👍
I do like Ribble - need more kudos than they probably get, bit like my next favourite - Merida.
Great bikes but communication can sometimes let them down. Someone ordered on the strength of this review and only found out there would be a delay when she chased up delivery.
@@RideWithRoy Yes, delays this year have been a part of the ordering system. Though, when I ordered in May, it was clear I was going to have to wait to September for delivery. One thing I think they could improve on, a little tool bag with the bike.
@@saintuk70 I think they’ve done well with such unprecedented demand, and the restrictions on how they can work. Long leads times can be expected, but when deliveries are going to be late it’s important to keep the customer informed. One email can take the sting out of a late delivery.
Does the light always start on green, asking because I am red green colour blind and have a lot of trouble differentiating between them, Traffic lights are ok because I can tell if top middle or bottom are illuminated, but some thing I put on to charge that have red or amber for charging and green for fully charged, I have problems and have to guess from the time its been on.
Thanks for that question, Michael, as it’s something I have often thought about. Yes, it will show green to denote that the system is working correctly (which I didn’t mention in the video) but on my bike it also means I am in the first power setting when I switch on. Then it drops back to the colour of the charge state. As you are an experienced cyclist, I guess you will know the setting by the feel of the bike, otherwise you would have a problem.
@@RideWithRoy thank you, just looking at options, my arthritis is slowly getting worse, just looking at options for one or 2 year's time, if it carries on like it is, might need some help, but I like to carry on using my own energy as much as possible. I'm a bit like the black Knight in Monty Python The Holy Grail , tis only a scratch, 😅😅😅
@@FENCYCLIST I have contacted Ebikemotion who have suggested their monochrome Pulsar display. This looks like it will solve the problem for colour blindness. You would need to specify this on your order I would imagine. This is the link www.ebikemotion.com/web/mahle-pulsar-one-the-smart-display-for-x35-systems/
Hi Roy, great to see a ALe review - had a ribble road bike for years but ordered the CGR ALe in red in June, still awaiting delivery (October!) but looking forward to getting out and about on it. I do well on most road riding but wanted something to go further easily (with some tracks not just road) and also use as a c2w bike (orders on c2w scheme). I struggle not to put in 100% effort whenever on the road bike and wear myself out easily on longer 30-50mile rides as a result, but getting to the office (5 miles) I’d love to not make myself a sweaty mess. How are you finding it on short trips? Easy to accept the pedal assist for a quick short ride without pushing hard and still getting somewhere ok?
eQuaZ0r you are going to love it and will be worth the wait. In answer to your question, I tend to let my body decide. I’m approaching 68 and there are days when I am feeling it, so need the power, even on a short trip. On others, like the range extender review, I can ride 100 miles and only use power selectively. I rode out to see stage 12 of Le Tour on Thursday (video to follow) and used my old Fuji road bike. I’d forgotten how many hills there were in this area and wished I packed the Ribble.
Has your bike arrived yet?
@@RideWithRoy Yes thank you Roy :) please see above comment with a strava link to my first outing on it at last yesterday :)
@@skirkybaby I can’t see a Strava link (probably me) so can you email to ridingwithroy@gmail.com?
@@RideWithRoy on its way to you Roy, hope you’re doing well! :)
Have got my order in for one of these now after lots of to-ing and fro-ing regarding which bike to purchase. Sadly delivery isn't going to be until Christmas but at least the order's in, i'm currently riding a 2014 Orange RX9 but think that'll be resigned to the garage after Christmas.
Be interested to hear your thoughts on how you feel after a 50-100 mile ride on this compared to your standard bike Roy?
That’s great news, and Christmas will soon come around. I use this bike depending on how I feel, and the circumstances. Yesterday evening I was scheduled to assist on a guided ride. The start was about 21 miles from home and the ride was over 21 miles. I decided to ride there and use the Ribble. It was windy, so I added the range extender as a bit of insurance. I also added the rack and bag, to enable me to carry extra water and the obligatory first aid kit. The guided part of the ride was quite fast and included a big hill, so a bit of e assist helped, especially with the loaded bike. It was getting dark by the time I neared home so, being a gravel bike, I was able to avoid a final hill by using the canal towpath. If I didn’t have the option of the Ribble I would have driven. However, if I was riding 100 miles I would use the unpowered Triban, which I also enjoy. I have ridden 100 on both bikes and they are equally comfortable. I am about to make an update video of the CGR after 3500 miles, but all good. I chose Marathon tyres from new but I found the quite scary on wet tarmac. I’ve just changed them for Continental Contact Plus. They are a bit of a harder ride but I’m feeling much more confident with the grip. Let me know when the bike arrives and feel free to contact me with any questions.
Thanks for this review Roy. I'm struggling to find the weight of this spec bike on their site - could you share what yours weighs please? Also, do you know if it is possible to remove the speed limit with the X35 system?
Hi Matt. With tools, pedals and saddle, mine weights exactly 15kg. You can’t remove the speed limiter, as far as I know, but once up to speed it is light enough to stay there. If it was possible to remove the limit, I wouldn’t do it as it would defeat the object and use the battery far too quickly. The app allows us to adjust the speed setting for each power level, up to the limit.
Speed limiter can't be messed about with. If you try the system will shut down its a clever little bugger that sends information back to a central hub in Spain. It can also tell when and if the system fails and will be turned off if reported as stolen.
I actually experienced this, Paul. I had a persistent fault light and the tech people at Ebikmotion could see exactly what the fault was, remotely. Turned out to be a Firmware update required. All very clever, and reassuring.
Ryere is a way to trick the system up to 29kph cut put but you can't completely remove it
Great review.....what is the lifespan approximately of the battery and can they be easily changed during its life ....I've often wondered if the battery would outlast the bike or vice versa
Thanks, Christopher. The life of the battery is approximately 500 full charge cycles before it reduces capacity. It’s important to note that a charge cycle is from fully discharged to fully charged. This means that if you charge from 50% discharged it only counts as half a charge cycle. Life of a lithium battery will depend on how it’s cared for. For example, charging in freezing conditions will seriously shorten the life or cause irreparable damage. Although it’s said to be a dealer job to replace the battery, I’ve had a good look and would be happy to do it myself. It doesn’t appear to require any special tools.
Roy, please, I have 2 questions:
1) When you are pedaling without electrical assistance, do you notice any greater effort due to the motor or the bicycle spins free like a bicycle without assistance?
2) When using electrical assistance, does the engine make a noise?
Hello Ivan. Unlike crank drive systems, there is no friction at all on the Ebikmotion hub drive. This is what made it my choice, as I want to be able to ride as a normal bike. As far as noise goes, it is very quiet. In the low assistance you would have to listen carefully to hear it. When on high power, pushing up a hill, the sound is more noticeable, but still not loud. For example, I overtook some cyclists on a hill, today, on full power, and they didn’t realise I was electrically powered. When I saw them later I did tell them, as I think they were feeling demoralised by my performance 😂
@@RideWithRoy Roy, first of all, thank you for the answers.
I am also already in my third age and I feel that I need extra strength to overcome the great mountains. I am in doubt as to the best engine technology "Hub drive X crank drive systems (like Fazua technology) and the discomfort of the noise of electric motors, so the hub drive would be more suitable for me.
You are very welcome, Ivan. There really is no discomfort with noise. If you look at this video ruclips.net/video/b67BMf9WyBo/видео.html At 6:35 I have selected full power ready for a steep hill. You can just about hear the motor in the background while I’m speaking.
Great review - trying to find more info on battery access. Can it be removed for charging indoors?
Thanks, Alex. No, this type of installation is fixed on the bike.
Hi Roy love your channel and videos. I'm pretty new to cycling in my 60's with mild COPD, at the moment I ride a trekking bike with a Bosch mid drive motor. So my question for you young man would I find that the motor in the Ribble be under powered to what I have now, Thanks David
Thanks for your support, David, it’s much appreciated. I haven’t ridden a mid drive motor of any sort, so my answers must be measured against that. A hub drive, such as in the Ribble, will produce less torque than a mid drive, such as the Bosch. This means that you will need to work a little on some of the steeper hills. However, as can be seen in my review, a slow easy pedal in high power will get you up with ease, just not as fast as the higher torque mid drive. The big plus with the Ribble with Ebikmotion is the weight of the bike. Every mid drive bike I have seen is heavy. I guess this is due to the larger battery required. My Ribble CGR Al e weights in at 15kg, and that’s with pedals, tools camera and lights. And if you are happy to spend more and stick to roads, the SL e is even lighter. The big benefit is that the bike can easily be ridden without power, due to this low weight. My brother has a Cube with Bosch mid drive and he has been disappointed with the friction he experiences when trying to ride without power. He likens it to riding with an old style dynamo rubbing on the wheel. Conversely, once the Ebikmotion system is disconnected, either by being switched into neutral or over 15.5 mph, there should be no friction from the drive. So, after all this I will try to answer your question. If you are riding up to 40 miles with a couple of hills less than 12% you could ride on full power all the way round and will probably find little difference. If you add the range extender you can likely double that distance. If gentle exercise will help control your mild COPD, then this system is ideal, as you can do as much or as little as you wish. If, on the other hand, you just want to get out on powered rides then the Bosch would seem the best. The best thing to do is try to get a test ride on an Ebikemotion powered bike. The system is used in other makes, such as Orbea, so you may be able to find one near you to try. I am sure other subscribers with more experience of mid drives will be able to add to this conversation.
@@RideWithRoy Thanks for your comprehensive reply, so long story short after a long chat with Ribble I have ordered one with the Rival 1 gear set
@@dcocks that’s good, I hope it works for you. And I hope all goes well health wise. I’d love to know how you get on with the bike.
Hi Roy. Thank you for your great channel. I always look forward to your next video. I am also a proud owner of a Ribble AL e gravel bike exactly the same spec as your and even the same colour. I notice that you have managed to procure two drinks holders that look a good match to the the red frame colour. Could you advise me were you purchased these from?
Ribble has supplied me with one but the colour match really doesn’t do it.
Regards Tony from Bournemouth.
Thanks, Tony, that’s very nice of you. The bottle holders are Elite Custom Race Plus. This is the Amazon link amzn.to/3FeqSoE but you may get them at a lower price if you look around.
Excellent revue Roy, thank you very much. As a result my pal and I have ordered gravel bikes from Ribble. I would be very interested to hear what equipment you use, pump, saddle bag, tools and lights. You clearly have a great deal of experience and will have sorted out your equipment very well ! Have you had any issues with the app, many of the reviews on the Ribble site complain that it is not reliable? Again many thanks your time and effort which is greatly appreciated. Regards, Rod.
Thank you Rod, that’s very kind and just the encouragement I need. I don’t use the app on rides, as when the phone is in my back jersey pocket the app disconnects. My main use was when I had a fault. Ebikemotion were able to see what my bike was doing and diagnose the fault - which turned out just to be a firmware update needed. It’s also handy to connect up for an accurate check of battery remaining. With the limited use I’ve had there have been no issues. I will make a short video of my kit, which covers all the essentials. I am literally just off out on my CGR to video some night shots for a lighting review that I should have uploaded by Saturday morning. I’m always pleased to receive suggestions as I can easily assume that nobody would be interested in what kit I carry. Enjoy your CGR’s and keep in touch 👍
How many amp hours is the battery? Is there more than one option for Ah? 250 watt motor I assume?
Only one option which is 36Volt 250 Watt motor and 250 Watt hour 36 Volt battery. You can calculate Amp Hour from this.
@@RideWithRoy I have a bike with a 500 watt motor and it Is 48 volts. The total power is dependent on the amp hours. I could have chosen 14 ah battery, a 17ah battery or both, which I did. The distance I can receive power depends on the amp hours I have available. Do you know how many amp hours your battery is?
To calculate amps you divide the Watts by the Volts. So in this case it will be almost 7 Amp hour. This system is designed to provide assistance only, and not totally drive the bike. Mine weighs only 15kg so is easy to pedal without power, allowing me to just add power on hills. I also have a range extender. This works as a power bank - topping up the main battery as I ride. That, combined with the main battery gives a total of 450 Watts, so 450/36 = 12.5 Amp hour.
@@RideWithRoy thanks! Yes, the reason I’m interested in yours is that my very fully electric bike got me out on the road and I lost weight and got in shape, now I’m wanting to do more serious riding but I want a little help on hills and just incentive to go out for a few hours instead of one or less. I’m a huge fan!
Sounds perfect for you. There are now many bike manufacturers using the Mahle X35 system so the choice is now wide. If you need any further help just ask.
Really great review Roy, i'm an MTB rider but bought a second hand Gravel Bike last year and love the fact that I can do distances on it but still go off road a bit. Was planning on getting the SLe then I can do proper road riding but seeing this has changed my mind I think i'd miss the ability to go off road. I'm the same height as you, if it's not too personal could you tell me what your inside leg is please? Was looking at the small frame but you said yours is extra small so not sure.
Thanks, Anton. Inside leg is 31”. I could have gone for the small with a shorter stem but was recommended to go x small during Ribble in store fitting. I do find I need the saddle fully back to have correct position on the pedals. I certainly don’t regret going for XS, but feel i could have managed with the S. The downside of XS is there is no room for frame bags. I’m going to be doing a 3500 mile review of the bike in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks for the reply Roy my inside leg is the same, by the sounds of it I could do with getting properly measured up for it as I don't want to get it wrong. Be really interested to watch the 3500 mile review when you upload it.
Great review Roy, .
Is the ride position any different to the road bike.
Thanks GDad 👍 I haven’t ridden the non powered version but I’m sure it’s the same geometry. The only addition is the powered rear wheel and the wider tube for the battery. I’ve just got back from a very comfortable 70 miles on mine, much of which was without power.
Hi Roy, nice video, well done. Can you tell me the distance between the inside of the rear forks please. I have a Tacx Flux S Smart trainer and need to know whether it will fit so can use during bad weather🤔
Thanks, Keith. I’ve just popped out and measured it for you. It’s 140mm between the rear fork mounting points and it’s a through axle. Do bear in mind that this is the CGR electric. I measured without taking the rear wheel out, so if you want an ultra accurate measurement let me know. I think indoors is a good plan at the moment 🥶
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Thanks Roy I just checked it out and should be fine. The width was a lot smaller than I expected. Your videos are very informative, keep them coming👍😊
@@keithhowland9333 You're very welcome, Keith.
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FYI..I will have to take the wheel off and the bike will then be held by skewers through the back forks so the emotor will be of no assistance, the trainer will dictate the power output ie hills or downhills..however no wind in the face🙄😊
Glad to hear it, Keith, that would be pointless😂. You’ll have to get a big fan and stand under the shower to get a realistic experience. I’ve not gone down the indoor route yet, but it may have to come. My son is very keen on Zwift and keeps recommending it to me.
I was watching the ride bit of this when a motorbike revved hard under my window. I flinched and started to look back over my shoulder before I caught myself on.
Looks like a great bike, but I live in France and that bit about sending it back to be fixed rather puts the kybosh on it. Looks like Lapierre for me. Still X35, though.
I think anything with the X35 is good, John. I only reviewed the Ribble because that what I have. Having said that, I am pretty sure Ribble would sort out local support for any warranty requirements. I saw a Willie with X35 recently and that looked a classy machine. Where are you in France? I have a place in 87190.
@@RideWithRoy I'm in the top right-hand corner, almost in Germany. Wonderful cycling country.
Re the Ribble, I'm getting on a bit but I want to go on doing 200k day-rides, so I reckon to use the X35 app to turn the motor on when my heart hits its allowed max. For 200k, though, I need to fit a saddlebag, and the carbon seatpost on the Endurance SLe is a bit iffy in that respect. The Lapierre is heavier, but it will be able to carry my kit without me worrying about something breaking. I can compensate for the extra bike weight by losing the 4 kilos of extra gut I've gained during lockdown, and this vile Spring.
Hi Roy..great video as per👍is there any chance you could make a video of the process of taking the front and rear wheel off in case of punctures? Am not used to through axles especially on the rear🤔 if you could it would be much appreciated😊
Thank you, Keith. Yes, I will gladly do that as soon as possible. Thanks for your feedback, it’s always appreciated
Hello Keith. I’ve just finished editing the video you suggested and should be publishing tomorrow.👍
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Thanks Roy, look forward to watching it👍😊
Thank you for an excellent review. I’m contemplating an E road bike. My Giant Stance E MTB is amazing but I miss the road riding. I ride at my at my own pace, but there is a thrill of going quickly. I’m really convinced about the bike up the hills but what about pushing harder on the flat ? I appreciate it’s not as quick as a standard road bike, but how hard is it to travel at 15-20 mph ? I think beyond the EU the motor has a higher ‘cut out’ speed. Appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
Thanks, David, that’s much appreciated. I’m not a fast rider so not best placed to talk about speed - I’m more interested in distance. However, I chose the CGR as I wanted to ride both tracks and road, so needed the gravel spec, for which the trade off is weight. On the flat I can easily maintain 18-19 mph, but drop down to assisted speeds on inclines. The benefit of assistance is that you reach the cut off speed more quickly and once there it’s relatively easy to maintain. The good news is that the carbon Ribble SL-e, which I believe is only 10.8 kg, would certainly appear to be able to give you the speed and thrill you need. In fact, When launched, Ribble were claiming it to be the lightest e bike in the world. I know there are SL-e owners subscribing to this channel so hopefully someone can offer some advice.
@@RideWithRoy Thank you. I’ll checkout the SL e. I went to see a Obea gain today, was very impressed. I’m sure they’ll be something in the garage after Christmas.
I looked at the Gain and also liked it. From memory, it’s about the same weight as the CGR. The only issue at present is that Ribble are letting down customers by multiple misses of delivery promises. They are putting this down to component supplies, which I guess other manufacturers may also be experiencing. Good luck with whatever you choose.
I am pleased to be able to update on my comments about Ribble deliveries. The subscriber that had been let down contacted me, this afternoon, to say that Ribble now have the parts and are building next week. This as good as meets the original promise. Well done Ribble for pulling out the stops 👍
@@RideWithRoy appreciate you following up Roy. I’ll update you as I make my choice... David.
Thanks, liked and subbed , you are looking good.
You probably need to book with Specsavers 😂
Roy I spoke with you before when I congratulated your video::this is the bike I need but I have a sizing dilemma the size guide puts me into an XS at 65 inch tall but with leg length 31.5 inch dare I go up to a S frame. Would appreciate your thoughts on this
Reg Bryan Donald
Good morning, Reg. While your leg length can be compensated for with saddle height, I would be more concerned with reach. I am about to make and update video after 3000 miles on the bike. I will mention size in that I have considered whether I could have gone for size S. I did find that to have the saddle in the correct position for my 82cm inside leg I had it fully back on the rails. I have overcome that by using an offset saddle post. If you go for the S you could compensate for any stretch issues by fitting a shorter stem. I am fairly short in my torso so not so flexible in the upper body. I find the XS comfortable and the equivalent of the size S of my Triban, so on balance feel it was the correct choice for me. The good thing is that Ribble do offer their 30 day return feature, so if you have made a mistake you can return the bike for a restocking fee, plus carriage charges. Of course, that puts you back at the start of the order lead time, so you’ll want to get it right first time. The only thing I don’t like about the XS is there isn’t much room within the frame for accessories such as frame bags and bottles, so if you plan lots of touring this would be a consideration. I get around this by fitting a rear rack. I hope this has been of some help, Reg, but feel free to email me on ridingwithroy@gmail.com if you wish to discuss in more detail.