This was one of my favorite episodes all things being considered. Basketball talk, funny moments and all the life lessons all the guys gave. Top 2 basketball podcast on RUclips 💯
Great basketball show today! Nothing to say or argue, but I told y'all: when Penn gets philosophical, he's the best on the show at it. That was a W philosophical talk overall, and I hope those who need to hear it do, because it's never too late to get your dreams and do what makes you happiest.
I dont think the rockets have a top 12 player in the conference. Shai,Jdub,JJJ,Ja,Jokic,Luka,Kyrie,Bron,AD,Ant,Harden,Steph,Wemby,Fox,Domas,KD,Book are all imo better and i think most of em will be all stars (not all) point being i think sengun will make it not cos hes that good but because i think people feel compelled to give an individual credit for the success of a team. sometimes a team is really good without an individual being absolutely amazing and the reason why.
All star is a joke recognition. Great players that have bad years still become all stars, players that don’t play still become all stars. Joke recognition
The reason why many people are quick to say Sengun is an all star is because they don’t watch the Rockets. They think the Rockets success is because of a man carry job when that’s not the case. Defense, depth, and coaching are the Rockets are elite in the regular season. Sengun has been really good but the Rockets are egalitarian than people say they are.
"klay thompson tore his achillies when they had a fire going on" " Nah I shouldn't have said that cuz that amke is seem like he running away from it" like bro 😂😂😂swipa trying hard ash not to laugh
I watched some of it live. Shoutout to marz on the Reggie miller love. Do gets underrated and overlooked to and he is one of the reasons why accolades don’t matter much to me
So if the Thunder are one year away, the Wolves have flopped, he don’t belive in the Mavs or Clippers, the suns and warriors are cooked, and the rockets are a regular season team, chill believes that either the Lakers, Grizzles, or Kings are making the finals
@ but he also mentions how jdub isn’t a consistent 2nd scoring option and how Chet won’t be back. He also says if Okc plays the Lakers lebron is going to gaurd SGA while AD and everyone else scores the rest of the buckets.
The best offensive player on the best offensive team of all time and the most clutchest player in the league this year might not make the all star game. Dam DG 🤦🏾♂️
I know they'll talk about Russ on Monday. He had a great game. Just remember that part of the issue with Lakers Russ was that he was taking up a lot of cap space. This Russ is outperforming his salary, that one was dramatically underperforming it.
Idk why yall let chill slide saying, gatland couldnt handle pressure before this year, when he been w pure point handling pressure lowkey since he got in the league
I guess my question about KD was more so "regressed" in terms of rankings...i.e., when he's no longer a top 5 small forward/top 10 player in the league... Because he's still comfortably both of those things even while being worse than his prime, unlike Steph who's now questionable with being a top 5 pg/top 10 player
The only argument for Sengun is seeding (I dont think wins should ever matter). the best 12 that season should go to the all star game, and no one from Houston has played at that level We don't win a playoff series, all u gotta do is double Sengun and force us to shoot, we can't hit shit. With Jalen, whenever he does have a good stretch, it's usually because he's hitting 3s at around 40%, and I don't believe in this to be real. He's never shown over a large sample size relative to a full szn that he's a good shooter, he gotta have an inbetween game. T3 in the west is Okc, dallas, clippers (with a healthy Kawhi)
East guards to tough to choice from I think lamelo and d Mitch are starting then you have dame Brunson garland and Cade sadly Cade might not make it 🤦🏾♂️
Swipa overrates the hell out of Jokic and I'm a big Jokic fan (I have him as a top 25 player ever with a good shot to end up top 15 ever) but he's got to realize that Jokic bleeds a lot of value due to his defensive limitations at the most important defensive position. Jokic isn't better than guys like David Robinson, Shaquille Oneal, Karl Malone...
1:16:11 See this what i'm saying. Lakers stink but somehow Denver is good when we're both in the SAME DAMN TIER...two cheeks of the same ass lmao Yet Denver constantly gets put in these contention talks as if they don't also stink and have glaring weaknesses
Man stop I’m young asl and ik Malone was nice everyone wants to discredit him for what he did and that’s understandable but actin like this dude wasn’t cold you can’t hold that against him when it comes to talking ball so swipa and marz need to stop pretending they keeping it a buck how they feel abt him😭
Just admit you know he’s better than you think just keep it on the court when your tryna debate him against Barkley and those dudes at least he played back then I get giannas and jokic but Barkley cmon😂
I’m not gone lie yall have to stop with this Jokic downplay and lowkey hate there is no way yall think all those players are better than Jokic let’s be serious here and come back to reality
Len, you made an excellent point about the differences in spacing between older eras and today. It's much easier to drive, dribble, and get open in the modern game compared to the past. Unfortunately, people like Marz and his followers tend to greatly overrate today's basketball players, despite the fact that the overall IQ, strength, and difficulty of decision-making in the game are significantly lower now compared to previous eras.
@@MarzTalksSports ahhh like Parlay Marz = Parz. Well, NYSareem, I didn't make an excellent point. It's a fairly obvious point that I'm sure has been made on this show 500 times by 10 different people.
@ boy you on coke , the last game we played yall yall needed the refs , we are better defensively, I never said we are easily better than yall, but to say disrespecting stuff like yall are easily better is crazy , we are #2 in the west for a reason ,
This was one of my favorite episodes all things being considered. Basketball talk, funny moments and all the life lessons all the guys gave. Top 2 basketball podcast on RUclips 💯
Chitchat my favorite segment ‼️real life advice needed
Philosophy high school lesson😹
Great basketball show today! Nothing to say or argue, but I told y'all: when Penn gets philosophical, he's the best on the show at it. That was a W philosophical talk overall, and I hope those who need to hear it do, because it's never too late to get your dreams and do what makes you happiest.
Swipa being an jjk fan just made him my favorite panelists. Sorry Marz. W anime
Oh no
S/O Toge Inumaki
Who's JJK?
@medved4030 Jujutsu Kaisen. It's an anime and Swipa showed a poster of it
@@micah459 Ah ok. I thought it was an NBA player. lol
I dont think the rockets have a top 12 player in the conference. Shai,Jdub,JJJ,Ja,Jokic,Luka,Kyrie,Bron,AD,Ant,Harden,Steph,Wemby,Fox,Domas,KD,Book are all imo better and i think most of em will be all stars (not all) point being i think sengun will make it not cos hes that good but because i think people feel compelled to give an individual credit for the success of a team. sometimes a team is really good without an individual being absolutely amazing and the reason why.
Yeah I think you make a good point, it’s just weird to think they probably won’t have an allstar unless someone’s hurt
All star is a joke recognition. Great players that have bad years still become all stars, players that don’t play still become all stars. Joke recognition
The reason why many people are quick to say Sengun is an all star is because they don’t watch the Rockets. They think the Rockets success is because of a man carry job when that’s not the case. Defense, depth, and coaching are the Rockets are elite in the regular season. Sengun has been really good but the Rockets are egalitarian than people say they are.
@ it has been a collective approach
@marztalkssports why you winking at us on the prize picks picture lol
I’m tired of hearing no one wants to see LeBron and AD in the playoffs 😂
What happened to comparing wemby to other 21 year olds in nba history???? Y'all had me excited for nun.😭
we wanted to talk ab jalen green and give life advice instead. welcome to the panel
Blame, Jordan, Swipa and Chill they try to nitpick everything thats said and causes them to stay on every topic for 45mins
Jalen green mid af
Ron calling Josh Giddey Josh Diddy everytime is crazy. Jordan going you should leave the kid alone and Marz going that's what he shoulda did is crazy.
jordan threw the lob i had to finish it
@MarzTalksSports😭😭😭
3:01:15 that man Swipa turned the camera off😂 know he was rolling
😭😭😭😭
De'Mario From the Ends has to be Dion From Ohio in another universe, where instead of glazing LeBron he's glazing Kylian Hayes.
👀
It’s marz
Great episode!
jordan might be the funniest panalist when it's jokes time but has the dumbest takes everytime he's on
"klay thompson tore his achillies when they had a fire going on" " Nah I shouldn't have said that cuz that amke is seem like he running away from it" like bro 😂😂😂swipa trying hard ash not to laugh
My answer to 1:47:00 question to build around is Charles Barkley for me
I watched some of it live. Shoutout to marz on the Reggie miller love. Do gets underrated and overlooked to and he is one of the reasons why accolades don’t matter much to me
So if the Thunder are one year away, the Wolves have flopped, he don’t belive in the Mavs or Clippers, the suns and warriors are cooked, and the rockets are a regular season team, chill believes that either the Lakers, Grizzles, or Kings are making the finals
he thinks the thunder are a year away from winning a chip not the west
@ but he also mentions how jdub isn’t a consistent 2nd scoring option and how Chet won’t be back. He also says if Okc plays the Lakers lebron is going to gaurd SGA while AD and everyone else scores the rest of the buckets.
@@Zneap he did say that
@@Zneap when did he say that?
Y’all can’t bring chill off the bench and give Jordan heavy rotation minutes. Although, Jordan’s cleaning his game up I’ll give him that.
Shout out to Mario’s brother holdin it down for the working man.
31:06 ox sayin this mean something
Calling building around Karl Malone elementary is astonishingly ironic
The best offensive player on the best offensive team of all time and the most clutchest player in the league this year might not make the all star game. Dam DG 🤦🏾♂️
He hasn't played at that level I don't know what to say
@@yetundeadeyemi2436yes he has dumb dumb
Man where John B fr? Talking about starting/bench he the one that need the minutes
john D*
He is our #1 coming off the bench! WYM
@ if y’all don’t start that man, his per 36 is amazing 🤓
Swipa DEFINITELY dress like Sly Cooper.
Bc all Jarret Allen has to do is rebound and screen ofc he gonna be better at rebounding when the other guy has to box out
I know they'll talk about Russ on Monday. He had a great game.
Just remember that part of the issue with Lakers Russ was that he was taking up a lot of cap space.
This Russ is outperforming his salary, that one was dramatically underperforming it.
Locked in!
W panel. You can be a great team and not have an all star.
thankyou
@ Sengun is the only one at an all star caliber player. But too many good players in the west imo
Adande a hall of famer. W Swipa
Idk why yall let chill slide saying, gatland couldnt handle pressure before this year, when he been w pure point handling pressure lowkey since he got in the league
wasnt worth the debate
Chill is forcing this narrative that Donavon Mitchell is the reason for Garland’s success when any who knows ball knew Garland has been nice.
Ron right. We better have 4 all stars
This panel lineup could give previous ones a run for their money
I guess my question about KD was more so "regressed" in terms of rankings...i.e., when he's no longer a top 5 small forward/top 10 player in the league...
Because he's still comfortably both of those things even while being worse than his prime, unlike Steph who's now questionable with being a top 5 pg/top 10 player
I mean the Pg position is deeper than the sf position
I really hate when non-thunder watchers speak on the thunder it’s quite annoying
Nal jordan it sound like you saying Klay torn his Acl cause of the fire
Yeah that was crazy i didn’t have to say that .. unnecessary
32:04 pen just talking
The only argument for Sengun is seeding (I dont think wins should ever matter). the best 12 that season should go to the all star game, and no one from Houston has played at that level
We don't win a playoff series, all u gotta do is double Sengun and force us to shoot, we can't hit shit.
With Jalen, whenever he does have a good stretch, it's usually because he's hitting 3s at around 40%, and I don't believe in this to be real. He's never shown over a large sample size relative to a full szn that he's a good shooter, he gotta have an inbetween game.
T3 in the west is Okc, dallas, clippers (with a healthy Kawhi)
I think it should be representative of this season and how it is going within reason
09 Wade or 08 Chris Paul who y’all got?
respectfully this isnt a discussion to me. flash clears
Killian Hayes. Those two bums have never been G league Allstars.
D Wade and it’s not close
Wade by light years
This guy could be dub’s burner account. That dude has cp3 over wade ALL TIME. Crazy 😂
East guards to tough to choice from I think lamelo and d Mitch are starting then you have dame Brunson garland and Cade sadly Cade might not make it 🤦🏾♂️
I forgot about Trae young as well
@@Sawyer_BennettLamelo
if b-roy had switch with russ and was that okc team. okc would have won lock out year
Pen with this Scottie stuff is interesting that’s all I will say. I wonder what’s gonna happen when he leaves the team
So in a league where you can lose by one possession a 1-2 point d-rating difference isn’t a big gap? ok cool
The lakers logic is so interesting I get it’s Bron and AD but my goodness that team isnt good
Hedo in 08 should’ve been an all star🫡
Facts
Easily!!!!
Swipa overrates the hell out of Jokic and I'm a big Jokic fan (I have him as a top 25 player ever with a good shot to end up top 15 ever) but he's got to realize that Jokic bleeds a lot of value due to his defensive limitations at the most important defensive position. Jokic isn't better than guys like David Robinson, Shaquille Oneal, Karl Malone...
jokic in top 15 talks regardless ngl
if u have Karl Malone over jokic there's something wrong with you
Malone over jokic in 2025💔
1:16:11 See this what i'm saying. Lakers stink but somehow Denver is good when we're both in the SAME DAMN TIER...two cheeks of the same ass lmao
Yet Denver constantly gets put in these contention talks as if they don't also stink and have glaring weaknesses
Man stop I’m young asl and ik Malone was nice everyone wants to discredit him for what he did and that’s understandable but actin like this dude wasn’t cold you can’t hold that against him when it comes to talking ball so swipa and marz need to stop pretending they keeping it a buck how they feel abt him😭
Just admit you know he’s better than you think just keep it on the court when your tryna debate him against Barkley and those dudes at least he played back then I get giannas and jokic but Barkley cmon😂
i said hes probably the answer to the question what more u want from me
Penn spiel about stats about being oppressed was pretty odd
He is different
I’m not gone lie yall have to stop with this Jokic downplay and lowkey hate there is no way yall think all those players are better than Jokic let’s be serious here and come back to reality
W show, 1/2 L host.
Swipa is not entertain unless it jokic glaze
Can’t agree Fella! Lol
PC life advice?
Don't get married
Jordan believe in Denver den swipa
Len, you made an excellent point about the differences in spacing between older eras and today. It's much easier to drive, dribble, and get open in the modern game compared to the past. Unfortunately, people like Marz and his followers tend to greatly overrate today's basketball players, despite the fact that the overall IQ, strength, and difficulty of decision-making in the game are significantly lower now compared to previous eras.
people like me
Who the hell is Len?
@@pensarebasketballL pen=Len
@@MarzTalksSports ahhh like Parlay Marz = Parz.
Well, NYSareem, I didn't make an excellent point. It's a fairly obvious point that I'm sure has been made on this show 500 times by 10 different people.
lol Sacramento is not better than Houston , Houston is the second best team we beat Dallas twice already what are yall talking about
lol naw bruh we easily better than Houston
@ boy you on coke , the last game we played yall yall needed the refs , we are better defensively, I never said we are easily better than yall, but to say disrespecting stuff like yall are easily better is crazy , we are #2 in the west for a reason ,
W me W Ox i guess
Lol what you guessing about?
W
The lakers are not winning shit defense is trash offense is trash team is trash
They a top 10 offense how is it trash
@ haven beat anybody good and lakers live off the free throw line defense is trash lakers are a circus
Michael jordan is better basketball player than lebron. Lebron has the best longevity and is the 2nd best basketball player ever.
bill russell>
@MarzTalksSports bill russell mentioned in big 2025😭😭😭😭
@@clad_diamond aslong as im around bill russell shall be mentioned
Is Wemby over Tatum now @MarzTalksSports ??
I wouldnt say so
Next year he will be
SWIPA. Messi is the greatest footballer to ever play the game