The moon landing, JFKs assasination, the invention of the automobile, Jesus turning water into wine, Noah’s Ark… These are just a few of the historical events that our man Chilltown has personally witnessed over his lifetime. Happy birthday OG and many more.
@MarzTalksSports do you consider cerebral skills like reading the floor as athletiscm? Since some people's brains simply move faster, so its a genetic advantage.
@@farhan2394-r7whell naw😂 its mandatory that you're using your physical skills in order to be called athletic. Anything involving your processing or smarts on the court is just iq.
Bob, you made the comparison between your two son's athletic abilities, one being physically inclined, and the other having great stamina. Durability and stamina are two sides of the same coin and both exist within the category of athleticism, here's why. To put it simply, being an athlete tasks you with being able to physically exert yourself over a period of time, it's a measurement of how resilient you are to fatigue, which allows your body to function at that level for longer. Based on definition, that's exactly what durability is. It's the human ability to maintain and withstand high amounts of physical exertion over a prolonged period. The best example I can give you is track and field or Olympic runners. The athletic prowess of an Olympic runner does not just encompass raw speed, but also their ability to maintain that speed for over a period of time, without losing traction or becoming fatigued, which is durability. That is a testament to their athleticism.
Casting doubts on Wemby's case as the greatest prospect because he got clamped by one of the greatest players in NBA history in Year 2 (discounting the fact that Wemby performed really well against Giannis in Year 1) is a nasty thing to do, and it really is coded disrespect to the era, as if peak Giannis is incapable of cracking down any Year 2 prospect, generational or otherwise. Being able to "physically assert your will" is being extremely overrated, especially when it's being limited to blowing people by and lil' broing them on the offensive end. The sheer force field Wemby enacts in the paint causing every player 1-5 to second-guess penetrating to the basket and therefore resulting in continuous suboptimal shooting and playmaking is not "physical" enough from this perspective so it gets discounted. Wemby's ability to turn mid to bad grenades into lobs is discounted (and the imposing threat his poses on offense because of this ability), because it's an off-ball play that takes advantage of space and timing rather than man-on-man physicality. And Wemby's significantly greater ability to shoot is somehow considered more "teachable" (and also frowned upon because "he needs to get his big ass in the paint") than forceful physicality. Does Shaq's career-long inability to shoot even free throws not factor into his quality as a prospect? Wemby can get stronger and already has - Shaq never became even a decent shooter. What is more teachable, really? Imo Bron and Wemby are in their own tier as prospects (rookie Shaq was a better player than both in Year 1, but he was also 20 and also his ceiling is lower than both) And Bron's case as the best prospect of all time is not because he could "assert his will" better than Wemby but the promise he showed since high school as a hyper intelligent scorer and playmaker, which, combined with his once in a lifetime physical gifts (speed, strength, durability), spoke to an all time offensive peak - which he has clearly reached. Wemby's case is his unparalleled defensive floor, and, like Bron (though not to the same degree), versatile offensive gifts combined with his unmatched physical qualities (for him, height, length, and agility relative to size). Also lol what happened to appreciating two-way players, when Wemby is, no ands ifs or buts, the single greatest two way prospect of all time?
@@tusharbisht6832 Wemby is a signficantly better and versatile defender from jump. Kareem would be criticized throughout his career for his lack of enthusiasm on the defensive end. In terms of offense, I am frankly not sure how to even begin to compare a 22 year old big man prospect form before the 3pt line era. To be fair to Kareem, individual defense, esp for big men, was more important than individual offense, particularly coming off the Wilt/Russell era - the two way vision was not as significant. Wemby, as a player from after the 3pt line, is able to space the floor in a way Kareem is not able to, and is able to defend in a significantly more versatile manner against 1-5 in a way Kareem was not able to. Even in the confines of the pre-3pt era, I think 23 year old Wilt would be the better prospect, but the both of them are really closer to Shaq than Bron/Wemby in terms of having higher overall floors but less raw total potential. Of course, if we were not to consider eras, the things Bron and Wemby and Shaq are capable of on offense constitute a different level.
@@waikayshin you wouldn’t critique Shaq for not being able to space the floor so why do it for Kareem who even played without the 3pt line. In that era the most efficient shot isn’t the one further away from the basket it’s the one closest which Kareem was excellent. And had a lot of defensive attention thrown his way to the extent I’m surprised he isn’t mentioned Among the all time off ball gravity players in league history. Also defensively he is quite a few steps ahead of wemby id argue but we have the hindsight of seeing what Kareem became but we don’t wembanyama. Also wembanyama cannot gaurd 1-5 that is just not his strength his strength ultimately will come from his close out ability, rim protections and defence in transition where he can hypothetically close out on many easy buckets with a contest. As is right now I don’t see wembanyama being a kg level Versatile big and I think it’s actually beyond unreasonable to expect such partly cause he can’t keep up with Gaurds with lower centre of gravity Also you said best two way prospect in league history not best prospect with the best offence and good defensive value like bron and shaq. Btw I don’t think wembanyama will ever hit the heights of Shaw and bron on offence although aesthetically he will be compared to them due to his box score much like Giannis was compared to Shaq dispite being leagues below him on offence although aesthetically
Tailed Pen's picks for $500. Pen sounded super sure on Scottie's assists so I took the 7.5 and it hit in the third quarter basically. Big dub PC. Ya'll finally cooked on your picks
Happy Birthday the one & only Chill😅. Funny how i started watching you guys because of chill meme of 'give me one more' 😂😂😂😂. By the way what was that rant at the start about the Lakers OG 😂😂😂😂?
The argument about Wemby and Luka being Europeans and how other people view them is irrelevant to how good of a prospect they are. Luka is in that next tier of all time great prospect.
AD should average 30 a night, Wemby will do that next season most likely. Intangibles do matter and players like AD are extremely talented and great, but are satisfied quickly imo and given passes based on his zenith. AD really has done nothing outside of Bron that Wemby can’t do in a few upcoming seasons. Lbfr.
The passing segment for Wemby vs AD was genuinely shocking as someone who's watched AD almost every other day for years as a Laker fan now... AD is NOT a good passer at all lol, and Wemby is a very good lob passer, kick out passer, pocket passer, makes WAY more advanced reads... Like that one should have been one of the cleanest sweeps lmao
@l3gendarysage293 Nah you gotta watch more Wemby then. I should preface my statement as "as a big man" he's a very good passer Like Marz said, his accuracy is his main flaw passing wise, but the reads and versatility of his passing is very advanced for someone his age
Cade is in borderline top 15 talks. The only weakness in his game now its his finishing around the basketball and trying to get better looks at the rim. If he improves that isnt he just like luka prototype can score all three levels and playmaking genius also he isnt bad defender anymore.
What's your criteria for a good coach Marz? Aren't coaches judged on results? For a rookie coach, Ham was objectively good. He's obviously not elite and probably can't make a bad group better but most coaches can't do this.
I dont judge most things on results,i judge things on process. winning doesnt mean u did well losing doesnt mean u did poorly. (always winning or always losing usually means ur doing something wrong as a coach) but i think ham was bad cos his process was bad inconsistent playcalling (despite having a really good playbook) very questionable lineups/rotations. so a few extra wins wouldnt make me think hes a good coach and vice versa. I dont think chaunceys a bad coach cos the blazers are ass i think chaunceys a bad coach AND the blazers are ass
1:49:26 at this point yall can just agree to disagree. But I agree with ox. I believe athleticism is speed, strength, vertical, flexibility. Having endurance and durability can make you an overall better athlete but does not make you more athletic
Wondering if y'all could do a play of the week type shii, where whoever picks it breaks it down explaining why they think it's dope or smart or whatever... Let's see who really know ball.
9:57 John D I been out on the Lakers ever since they made that pointless trade for DFS. No reason to get a player like him when we have better POA defenders than DFS.
@ Yes I’m saying that because we need more perimeter scoring and a closer not another POA defender that isn’t even better than our other 2 POA defenders. I swear yall be so dumb and brainwashed by NBA twitter 🤣😅🤣😅🤣
It literally isn't. Here's the Google response: "Technically, the short wavelengths that scatter across the sky correspond to the colours blue and violet, making the real colour of the sky a bluish purple. However, the cone cells in our eyes that detect colour aren't very sensitive to violet, so we see the sky as blue." You insult me, you learn something new.
Why tf would the Mavs be happy they didn’t play Denver last year? This man Chills dementia is rewriting the memories of his memories because he had the Wolves smoking the Mavs in 5
I think what he meant was they’re much happier playing the wolves rather than Denver, and I can agree. The mavs had no answer for jokic but the nuggets also can’t do anything with luka but I’d lean Denver in that series
So Laker fans didn't actually want to upgrade the coach; they just wanted to get rid of the latest scapegoat? Nothing will change in year 2 with JJ. He might last a season after Bron retires, when the team is rebuilding. Then the cycle will repeat, and Laker fans will be happy to see him gone too.
@@upfulsoul826 Jj still better than ham it’s just not a big upgrade or major difference maker for the team to be anymore relevant especially with this roster still
@@l3gendarysage293 He's not better in anyway. He's a downgrade. He brings no experience whatsoever and often loses composure in postgame interviews. He's arrogant too. If he was an improvement then his fanboys would be making fun of Ham's tenure. JJ has had a cupcake schedule so far including playing the Kings three times when they were in a terrible slump. Now the roster is an excuse because Ham isn't around to blame anymore. Several times the team played with no heart this season which rarely happened under Ham.
@ just say ham is black you are just sitting here lying there was multiple times last season where it was always a topic about the Lakers quitting on ham but all the sudden now they never played without heart goodbye conversation over your clearly a bias liar
I agree with the first minute of this video the Lakers fans are spoiled… nothing’s ever good enough. I was hearing complaining from them when the Lakers were the first in their division, fifth in their conference and eighth seed in the league…
The question I would have for Marz….. were you tuned into basketball or old enough to see the other prospects when they were being talked about? Marz does his homework so I know he went back and watched/read videos/articles but there’s something to be said about being old enough to see the other prospects hype in real time? I don’t think Marz is necessarily wrong about Wemby but his view may be the way it is because he lived through the Wemby hype
when they were being talked about no,i was not around. my perspective on them was not who was viewed as the bigger prospect my perspective is if they were all in a draft who would i take number 1. im not looking at the hype they had thats not relevant to my answer
@@MarzTalksSports would you take wemba over Jabbar? What about Duncan? Both were projected to be high ranking players from the jump, especially Jabbar who was arguebaly the best player on the planet before being drafted, and most likely top 5 and hit extreme highs that I don’t think any prospect should have and neither did Wembanyama. No prospect has a claim to being the best player in the league pre draft
@@MarzTalksSports ah yes but weren’t you saying you would take luka and jokic over wemba last year or maybe you said you would trade wemba for one of em on the show with jalen on it. Ahh yes the power of hindsight is a hell of a thing 😉
Happy Birthday Chill, only been watching for a year and always appreciate the laughs and your perspective (Even when I heavily disagree)🥸 Julius Randle and ANT > Wemby (He’s the big kid in the yard who doesn’t know what hes doing yet)
But I don't think the g league allows young players to develop properly look jalen green they were saying the rockets should get off him but now with some time jalen green looks competent and might be a star.
@hellcatsaymeow2095 so scoot is probably still as talented but it's just going to take him a while longer to hone his skills and u never know maybe that game awakened something in his confidence cus he shot was looking nice
Aye pen you dont get to make parlays with cade in it all that hate in yo heart for dawg he probably seen u put him on you parlay and purposely went with the under
The lakers can’t compete in the playoffs just off bron and ad anymore. They’re too top heavy, the bench isn’t that good and barely gets minutes anyway, vando and Christian wood don’t play anymore, Austin reaves can’t guard anybody, Jaxon Hayes is the back up big and he can’t do anything but catch lobs. Knecht is losing confidence game by game so he’s becoming a liability(hopefully he’ll bounce back), bron don’t play defense anymore. Thats why they can’t compete with the best teams in the west but they still can beat most of the bad to mid teams. The lakers are just mid now.
curry vs ben simmons athleticism: ben Per defense: ben post defense: ben rim protector: ben post scoring: ben shooting: curry rebounding: ben finishing: ben efficiency(fg%): ben passing: ben iq: ben better: benjamin buttom simmons
I think the ceiling and floor was higher w wemby. its hard to prove since weve seen what bron became but i will always stand on wemby>bron as prospects.
@@MarzTalksSports 18 year old Wemby had too many weaknesses (rebounding, setting screens, loose ball handle ,physicality, too many jump shots) as a prospect for him to be in the same conversation as an 18 year old LeBron. You could tell Wemby would never be able to bully players or blow by players consistently with his athleticism. LeBron didnt have that problem
@@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti I’m actually young and I still know LeBron is absolutely a better prospect than Wemby. LeBron literally got a 90 million deal from Nike before he played an NBA game Lmao
The question I would have for Marz….. were you tuned into basketball or old enough to see the other prospects when they were being talked about? Marz does his homework so I know he went back and watched/read videos/articles but there’s something to be said about being old enough to see the other prospects hype in real time? I don’t think Marz is necessarily wrong about Wemby but his view may be the way it is because he lived through the Wemby hype
when they were being talked about no,i was not around. my perspective on them was not who was viewed as the bigger prospect my perspective is if they were all in a draft who would i take number 1. im not looking at the hype they had thats not relevant to my answer
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The moon landing, JFKs assasination, the invention of the automobile, Jesus turning water into wine, Noah’s Ark… These are just a few of the historical events that our man Chilltown has personally witnessed over his lifetime. Happy birthday OG and many more.
Don't forget the big bang
Chill be yelling at the chat every show…all them grays come from stressing 😂
Happy Birthday Chill! Thanks for showing up every day and entertaining
Happy birthday to our favorite old man. Chilltown hoops. 100 is a big deal,heres to 100 more
The whole spectrum of athleticism who’s better, better athlete Shai or Amen?
@ Amen. Amen is the only athlete itl who i think is S tier at every aspect of athleticism
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@MarzTalksSports do you consider cerebral skills like reading the floor as athletiscm? Since some people's brains simply move faster, so its a genetic advantage.
@@farhan2394-r7whell naw😂 its mandatory that you're using your physical skills in order to be called athletic. Anything involving your processing or smarts on the court is just iq.
Chilltown at age 120 'there's no logic you can give me that Kobe Bryant had a better career than Bryce James'
Bob, you made the comparison between your two son's athletic abilities, one being physically inclined, and the other having great stamina.
Durability and stamina are two sides of the same coin and both exist within the category of athleticism, here's why.
To put it simply, being an athlete tasks you with being able to physically exert yourself over a period of time, it's a measurement of how resilient you are to fatigue, which allows your body to function at that level for longer.
Based on definition, that's exactly what durability is. It's the human ability to maintain and withstand high amounts of physical exertion over a prolonged period.
The best example I can give you is track and field or Olympic runners. The athletic prowess of an Olympic runner does not just encompass raw speed, but also their ability to maintain that speed for over a period of time, without losing traction or becoming fatigued, which is durability. That is a testament to their athleticism.
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Casting doubts on Wemby's case as the greatest prospect because he got clamped by one of the greatest players in NBA history in Year 2 (discounting the fact that Wemby performed really well against Giannis in Year 1) is a nasty thing to do, and it really is coded disrespect to the era, as if peak Giannis is incapable of cracking down any Year 2 prospect, generational or otherwise.
Being able to "physically assert your will" is being extremely overrated, especially when it's being limited to blowing people by and lil' broing them on the offensive end. The sheer force field Wemby enacts in the paint causing every player 1-5 to second-guess penetrating to the basket and therefore resulting in continuous suboptimal shooting and playmaking is not "physical" enough from this perspective so it gets discounted. Wemby's ability to turn mid to bad grenades into lobs is discounted (and the imposing threat his poses on offense because of this ability), because it's an off-ball play that takes advantage of space and timing rather than man-on-man physicality. And Wemby's significantly greater ability to shoot is somehow considered more "teachable" (and also frowned upon because "he needs to get his big ass in the paint") than forceful physicality. Does Shaq's career-long inability to shoot even free throws not factor into his quality as a prospect? Wemby can get stronger and already has - Shaq never became even a decent shooter. What is more teachable, really?
Imo Bron and Wemby are in their own tier as prospects (rookie Shaq was a better player than both in Year 1, but he was also 20 and also his ceiling is lower than both) And Bron's case as the best prospect of all time is not because he could "assert his will" better than Wemby but the promise he showed since high school as a hyper intelligent scorer and playmaker, which, combined with his once in a lifetime physical gifts (speed, strength, durability), spoke to an all time offensive peak - which he has clearly reached. Wemby's case is his unparalleled defensive floor, and, like Bron (though not to the same degree), versatile offensive gifts combined with his unmatched physical qualities (for him, height, length, and agility relative to size).
Also lol what happened to appreciating two-way players, when Wemby is, no ands ifs or buts, the single greatest two way prospect of all time?
Better two way prospect than Jabbar?
Amen!
@@tusharbisht6832 yes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tusharbisht6832 Wemby is a signficantly better and versatile defender from jump. Kareem would be criticized throughout his career for his lack of enthusiasm on the defensive end. In terms of offense, I am frankly not sure how to even begin to compare a 22 year old big man prospect form before the 3pt line era. To be fair to Kareem, individual defense, esp for big men, was more important than individual offense, particularly coming off the Wilt/Russell era - the two way vision was not as significant. Wemby, as a player from after the 3pt line, is able to space the floor in a way Kareem is not able to, and is able to defend in a significantly more versatile manner against 1-5 in a way Kareem was not able to. Even in the confines of the pre-3pt era, I think 23 year old Wilt would be the better prospect, but the both of them are really closer to Shaq than Bron/Wemby in terms of having higher overall floors but less raw total potential. Of course, if we were not to consider eras, the things Bron and Wemby and Shaq are capable of on offense constitute a different level.
@@waikayshin you wouldn’t critique Shaq for not being able to space the floor so why do it for Kareem who even played without the 3pt line. In that era the most efficient shot isn’t the one further away from the basket it’s the one closest which Kareem was excellent. And had a lot of defensive attention thrown his way to the extent I’m surprised he isn’t mentioned Among the all time off ball gravity players in league history.
Also defensively he is quite a few steps ahead of wemby id argue but we have the hindsight of seeing what Kareem became but we don’t wembanyama.
Also wembanyama cannot gaurd 1-5 that is just not his strength his strength ultimately will come from his close out ability, rim protections and defence in transition where he can hypothetically close out on many easy buckets with a contest.
As is right now I don’t see wembanyama being a kg level Versatile big and I think it’s actually beyond unreasonable to expect such partly cause he can’t keep up with Gaurds with lower centre of gravity
Also you said best two way prospect in league history not best prospect with the best offence and good defensive value like bron and shaq.
Btw I don’t think wembanyama will ever hit the heights of Shaw and bron on offence although aesthetically he will be compared to them due to his box score much like Giannis was compared to Shaq dispite being leagues below him on offence although aesthetically
Happy Birthday chill I pray I live as long as you man
Tailed Pen's picks for $500. Pen sounded super sure on Scottie's assists so I took the 7.5 and it hit in the third quarter basically. Big dub PC. Ya'll finally cooked on your picks
Happy Birthday the one & only Chill😅. Funny how i started watching you guys because of chill meme of 'give me one more' 😂😂😂😂.
By the way what was that rant at the start about the Lakers OG 😂😂😂😂?
The argument about Wemby and Luka being Europeans and how other people view them is irrelevant to how good of a prospect they are.
Luka is in that next tier of all time great prospect.
1:41:00 yapping ends
Thank u
Pen picks actually ended up being great they all hit should’ve put 200 on it
Does Pen always try to talk like he's smarter than everyone?
He talks a lot but says so little.
AD should average 30 a night, Wemby will do that next season most likely. Intangibles do matter and players like AD are extremely talented and great, but are satisfied quickly imo and given passes based on his zenith. AD really has done nothing outside of Bron that Wemby can’t do in a few upcoming seasons. Lbfr.
Ya more hypotheticals😂
Bro ad is better at wemby everything
@@Tomfrom_woodsnot true
The passing segment for Wemby vs AD was genuinely shocking as someone who's watched AD almost every other day for years as a Laker fan now...
AD is NOT a good passer at all lol, and Wemby is a very good lob passer, kick out passer, pocket passer, makes WAY more advanced reads...
Like that one should have been one of the cleanest sweeps lmao
I don’t think he is either, I just don’t think player analysis are most of these guys specialty.
@@kendrickjenkins96 I don’t think neither is that good actually wemby is better but to say very good is crazy
Ad can pass in transition and kick out
@l3gendarysage293 Nah you gotta watch more Wemby then. I should preface my statement as "as a big man" he's a very good passer
Like Marz said, his accuracy is his main flaw passing wise, but the reads and versatility of his passing is very advanced for someone his age
@@kendrickjenkins96 agreed
Penn is like the new ticket just less entertaining 😂😂😂 I can’t be the only one that feel that way .
You're not the only one. Been compared to Ticket, Fluent, Dub, etc. I don't agree but if I gotta be the villain contrarian that's cool.
Nah it’s ox
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Pen knows his facts
Happy B-Day Chilltown. Keep spittin that wisdom.
Cade is in borderline top 15 talks. The only weakness in his game now its his finishing around the basketball and trying to get better looks at the rim. If he improves that isnt he just like luka prototype can score all three levels and playmaking genius also he isnt bad defender anymore.
Top 15 is kind of crazy. I would have him closer to top 25 but Cade is balling tho
Dorian Finney Smith is Ramon Sessions… IYKYK
@@jhubb903 Keep going!!!
What's your criteria for a good coach Marz? Aren't coaches judged on results? For a rookie coach, Ham was objectively good. He's obviously not elite and probably can't make a bad group better but most coaches can't do this.
If you think ham was objectively good you just don’t know basketball or wasn’t watching the Lakers maybe both
Marz has always said process over results.
I dont judge most things on results,i judge things on process. winning doesnt mean u did well losing doesnt mean u did poorly. (always winning or always losing usually means ur doing something wrong as a coach) but i think ham was bad cos his process was bad inconsistent playcalling (despite having a really good playbook) very questionable lineups/rotations. so a few extra wins wouldnt make me think hes a good coach and vice versa. I dont think chaunceys a bad coach cos the blazers are ass i think chaunceys a bad coach AND the blazers are ass
@@l3gendarysage293then…is jj bad ??
@@aquartermil if you seen my other comment then obviously I said that already Jj still better than ham tho
1:49:26 at this point yall can just agree to disagree. But I agree with ox. I believe athleticism is speed, strength, vertical, flexibility. Having endurance and durability can make you an overall better athlete but does not make you more athletic
Wondering if y'all could do a play of the week type shii, where whoever picks it breaks it down explaining why they think it's dope or smart or whatever... Let's see who really know ball.
This is a great idea
9:57 John D I been out on the Lakers ever since they made that pointless trade for DFS. No reason to get a player like him when we have better POA defenders than DFS.
So you basically saying why did we get more defense?😂 I swear yall be dumb
@ Yes I’m saying that because we need more perimeter scoring and a closer not another POA defender that isn’t even better than our other 2 POA defenders. I swear yall be so dumb and brainwashed by NBA twitter 🤣😅🤣😅🤣
Happy birthday unc my shii was yesterday 💯
18:58 Might have to throw something on the grill today! 🎉
71% of Wemby’s midrange shots are assisted btw. 56% for AD. The shot creation isn’t there for Wemby.
Pen is the dude that argues that the sky isn’t blue just to try and sound smart
'well akshually its purple' 🤓
It literally isn't.
Here's the Google response:
"Technically, the short wavelengths that scatter across the sky correspond to the colours blue and violet, making the real colour of the sky a bluish purple. However, the cone cells in our eyes that detect colour aren't very sensitive to violet, so we see the sky as blue."
You insult me, you learn something new.
@@pensarebasketball Proving my point
@@Marcuslittle4406 is your point that you're committed to ignorance?
@@pensarebasketball Still tryna argue. Always tryna belittle people to get a point a cross. That’s everyone’s issue with you.
Why tf would the Mavs be happy they didn’t play Denver last year? This man Chills dementia is rewriting the memories of his memories because he had the Wolves smoking the Mavs in 5
what does that have to do with the mavs wanting to play denver or not
I think what he meant was they’re much happier playing the wolves rather than Denver, and I can agree. The mavs had no answer for jokic but the nuggets also can’t do anything with luka but I’d lean Denver in that series
Btw if you don’t mind being 10-15min behind you can skip when pen starts talking. Hope this helps
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Can you guys stop allowing Pen to make a point that has nothing to do with the conversation?
happy birthday chill
Chill done letting y'all cut him off 😂
Happy birthday chill 🎉
John D got some licks in. Ox brushed the chloroform on his gloves before the last round from the corner w/ that assist though
🥊🥊🥊 my guy looked like he needed some assistance
91 Magic or 98 Jordan who y’all got?
magic
Magic
Jordan
I got Peak Clyde
Ox I heard you with the Fabolous quote 💯
I thought it was a fitting time to drop that bar
Happy birthday chill
Happy birthday chill 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Who could’ve imagine a podcaster would be a terrible coach in his first year the signs was obvious ppl was just happy ham was gone
So Laker fans didn't actually want to upgrade the coach; they just wanted to get rid of the latest scapegoat? Nothing will change in year 2 with JJ. He might last a season after Bron retires, when the team is rebuilding. Then the cycle will repeat, and Laker fans will be happy to see him gone too.
@@upfulsoul826 Jj still better than ham it’s just not a big upgrade or major difference maker for the team to be anymore relevant especially with this roster still
@@l3gendarysage293 He's not better in anyway. He's a downgrade. He brings no experience whatsoever and often loses composure in postgame interviews. He's arrogant too. If he was an improvement then his fanboys would be making fun of Ham's tenure.
JJ has had a cupcake schedule so far including playing the Kings three times when they were in a terrible slump. Now the roster is an excuse because Ham isn't around to blame anymore. Several times the team played with no heart this season which rarely happened under Ham.
@ just say ham is black you are just sitting here lying there was multiple times last season where it was always a topic about the Lakers quitting on ham but all the sudden now they never played without heart goodbye conversation over your clearly a bias liar
Pen always be getting disrespected when hes on 🤣
Ox just be shouting most times. 🤦🏾♂️
Happy Birthday Chilltown
Respect Domo, W episode tho
Happy birthday big Chill
Physicality convo was nonsensical.
Happy birthday OG much respect
I agree with the first minute of this video the Lakers fans are spoiled… nothing’s ever good enough. I was hearing complaining from them when the Lakers were the first in their division, fifth in their conference and eighth seed in the league…
Happy birthday Chill.
So who's more athletic Steph or Luka
Mmmm
The question I would have for Marz….. were you tuned into basketball or old enough to see the other prospects when they were being talked about?
Marz does his homework so I know he went back and watched/read videos/articles but there’s something to be said about being old enough to see the other prospects hype in real time?
I don’t think Marz is necessarily wrong about Wemby but his view may be the way it is because he lived through the Wemby hype
when they were being talked about no,i was not around. my perspective on them was not who was viewed as the bigger prospect my perspective is if they were all in a draft who would i take number 1. im not looking at the hype they had thats not relevant to my answer
@@MarzTalksSports would you take wemba over Jabbar? What about Duncan?
Both were projected to be high ranking players from the jump, especially Jabbar who was arguebaly the best player on the planet before being drafted, and most likely top 5 and hit extreme highs that I don’t think any prospect should have and neither did Wembanyama.
No prospect has a claim to being the best player in the league pre draft
@ id draft wemby over anyone
@@MarzTalksSports ah yes but weren’t you saying you would take luka and jokic over wemba last year or maybe you said you would trade wemba for one of em on the show with jalen on it.
Ahh yes the power of hindsight is a hell of a thing 😉
@ i dont know did i? and yes a draft of all league prospects isnt the same as a prospect vs a finished product
Penn is literally describing what Ox is saying 😂 there’s a difference between being “Better Athlete” & “More Athletic” not that hard to understand
Happy Birthday Chill, only been watching for a year and always appreciate the laughs and your perspective (Even when I heavily disagree)🥸
Julius Randle and ANT > Wemby (He’s the big kid in the yard who doesn’t know what hes doing yet)
What does chill see in the lakers?
LeBron
When the lakers win I’m shitting on this whole channel
LOL
win what
Chill is exactly right about Lakers fans. They are so spoiled and entitled 💯
Trust bro:
Russ over 5.5 rebounds
LaMelo over Assist + Rebounds
Ant 3+ Threes
Josh Hart over 9.5 rebounds
Trust🔒
ICE TRAE 🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊🧊
🥶🥶🥶🥶
Chill coming out the gates on smoke, there’s life in the old dog yet!
Happy birthday Chill your the goat! Main reason I got into basketball
Ron dress up for the all white Diddy party
50:18 scoot is 4 years removed from high school
2 in the g league
2nd year in the NBA
3 years because he’s currently in his 2nd year in the nba
But I don't think the g league allows young players to develop properly look jalen green they were saying the rockets should get off him but now with some time jalen green looks competent and might be a star.
@ Facts man that’s why they shut that BS team down
@hellcatsaymeow2095 so scoot is probably still as talented but it's just going to take him a while longer to hone his skills and u never know maybe that game awakened something in his confidence cus he shot was looking nice
Aye pen you dont get to make parlays with cade in it all that hate in yo heart for dawg he probably seen u put him on you parlay and purposely went with the under
😅 nah Cade don't care about my parlay or yours. Just a bad rebounding game.
@pensarebasketball naw dawg know you be ready to hate on him rather he score 100 points or 10 so he did it on purpose
@MarHolmes hate is too serious. Let's just say I hate the hype. Respect to Cade. Balling right now.
9:23 Marz 🤣😅🤣😅🤣
Happy Birthday To The GOAT Chill🫡
The lakers can’t compete in the playoffs just off bron and ad anymore. They’re too top heavy, the bench isn’t that good and barely gets minutes anyway, vando and Christian wood don’t play anymore, Austin reaves can’t guard anybody, Jaxon Hayes is the back up big and he can’t do anything but catch lobs. Knecht is losing confidence game by game so he’s becoming a liability(hopefully he’ll bounce back), bron don’t play defense anymore. Thats why they can’t compete with the best teams in the west but they still can beat most of the bad to mid teams. The lakers are just mid now.
If you talking coming into the NBA I have Larry Luka Kareem Jordan Shaq wilt as best prospect
curry vs ben simmons
athleticism: ben
Per defense: ben
post defense: ben
rim protector: ben
post scoring: ben
shooting: curry
rebounding: ben
finishing: ben
efficiency(fg%): ben
passing: ben
iq: ben
better: benjamin buttom simmons
Lmaooo the laker James delusion is fkn peak😂😂😂😂😂 LBJ ain't doing shit in the playoffs😂😂😂😂😂 I PRMOISE YOU😂😂😂😂😂😂
Whoever thinks Wemby is a better prospect than LeBron is going off of recency bias
And if u don't think that then u a nostalgia merchant
I think the ceiling and floor was higher w wemby. its hard to prove since weve seen what bron became but i will always stand on wemby>bron as prospects.
I think wemby the greatest prospect ever
@@MarzTalksSports 18 year old Wemby had too many weaknesses (rebounding, setting screens, loose ball handle ,physicality, too many jump shots) as a prospect for him to be in the same conversation as an 18 year old LeBron. You could tell Wemby would never be able to bully players or blow by players consistently with his athleticism. LeBron didnt have that problem
@@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti I’m actually young and I still know LeBron is absolutely a better prospect than Wemby. LeBron literally got a 90 million deal from Nike before he played an NBA game Lmao
Lmao yea the lakers are going to conference finals.
AYE JOHN STAY 10. LAKERS ARE SERIOUS AND WE ABOUT TO GET THAT CHAMPIONSHIP
The question I would have for Marz….. were you tuned into basketball or old enough to see the other prospects when they were being talked about?
Marz does his homework so I know he went back and watched/read videos/articles but there’s something to be said about being old enough to see the other prospects hype in real time?
I don’t think Marz is necessarily wrong about Wemby but his view may be the way it is because he lived through the Wemby hype
when they were being talked about no,i was not around. my perspective on them was not who was viewed as the bigger prospect my perspective is if they were all in a draft who would i take number 1. im not looking at the hype they had thats not relevant to my answer