I've never had as much fun in Warthunder then when I was flying either P-80s. They've always been surprisingly good in different ways, and were definitely what kept me playing Warthunder for the longest time.
My first jet was the B-57A because I was a bomber main at the time (Still would be a bomber main if it was profitable). B-57s were super fun to play when not worrying about absurd repair costs, boom in then vanish like a fart in the wind
Lol just get an il28 and enjoy being constantly downtiered to 7.0 where even the fastest jets can't catch you and if they dive your gunner will just fuck them from 1km
I came back to warthunder recently and you’re like an echo except I never continued to the high tier jets, I just have an affinity for the prop dogfights and nuisances that I just never found in the instant jet matches :P anyhow keep it up I’m so happy to see people actually making stuff for this game even in its seemingly pay to win stale state in my opinion, keep it up dude :D
My first jetfighter was the Ouragan, I used to hate it a lot and got told that it sucks but I came back to WT and it feels very nice to fly. Even won an engagement against a migh 15 bis in it lol, sadly didnt get to kill it cause I got third partied, but still made me feel good about my maneuvering skill.
in my eyes the best starter jet is the F3D. It's (relatively) fast, it'll turn better than the stat card suggests, 4 M3 20mms... two radars, two "pilots", two engines and two dinner plates for a windshield. It's a great way to learn energy, plus airspawn.
This was the first jet I researched, but because I was grinding the 'Space Race' event I didn't realise I was researching it and just autopiloted from one plane to the next and then realised when the event ended I was researching the F-84B now (back when the US tree only had 4 lines), and just for the memes I have never and will never test fly the F--80's either of them. God I am an idiot.
Love the F-80, hated it on release. Also loved using the Mig-9 late at this tier. Was great about 1 year ago, haven’t played in a year , so I don’t know how the BR has changed. At some point as well the first gen Mig-15 was amazing to fly, no missile lobbies.
I never thought I'd get into jets as they move too fast for me. I barely keep up with props and most of my level 100 is from doing CAS in Air RB. Then the snail gave me the A10 and I will spade this beautiful tank killing ugly big bird until I get the four AAs. I do try once in a while to do jet combat but only to remind me how much I suck at it.
Enjoying your content. Been watching your stuff for a few weeks. I like your style of reviews and then actual gameplay. It's a good mix. I'm just getting back into WT from a 4+ year hiatus. Really rusty, trying to play on a laptop with touchpad; not the best. Haven't even attempted to fly my jets (lvl 100), just reacquainting myself with props. I may try to snag an external keyboard and mouse - have only had six matches since returning.
You played well with the F-80, I'm also thinking of taking it, I used the Kikka, but I didn't like it very much, it's hard to hit and it doesn't curve much, the last match you played a lot, too bad the battle wasn't won because of the plow, but it was good
Of all the starter jets the Shooting Star and the MiG-9 have gotta be my favorites, shooting star has excellent preformance and the MiG-9 has great armament while teaching you to manage energy
Grind the F-80C-10, it's even better! Insane turnrate (not THE best turning jet, but definately one of them!), great roll, great energy retention, great handling even at lower speeds and of course it's still the fastest jet out there. If you play your cards right this thing is an absolute beast and is capable of whacking almost everything it faces!
Fastest jet out there? What the heck are you even talking about? At 7.7BR your performance is kinda shit compared to other jets of the same BR, not to mention if you get uptiered which happens a lot. You can only pray for low level out of energy players. If you want a 7.7 jet the F-84RE is much better
Well, I'm going to go back and visit this as I'm proper rubbish at the game, but this might help me learn.... especially if its a balanced game most of the time, after 6 years of 'flying - go -Boom', I'll try anything. Cool vid chap. 👌✌🤙🤘🖖👍
Ah yes. Looking back at the K/D ratios of your first jet in War Thunder. I'm not sure if mine is positive, but the K/battle ratio is certainly worse than what I was able to achieve in props.
To be fair to your comment at the end, the .50 cal’s DID suck horribly at multiple points, so you might not have been completely wrong to dislike them; there was a period early on where they’d go from flamethrowers to peashooters and back every other patch
As someone who got the german jets first (jabo me 262 and horten for now) this is the least of my concerns with f 84 (just unlocked it) being an absolute menace
F80a5 is the first jet ive gotten at sucks not because it poorly performs but because the fact its repair cost so fucking high an the su 11 stomps an gets in matchs with its constantly
Oh boy so glad I went for the banshee first so that it can immediately get fucked over by migs, sabres, and AA missles. Time to spend another 8 months grinding out another path now.
god if i was a few weeks earlier this plane would still be good, now its a peashooter compared to every enemy, you can outplay them over and over but your guns wont kill them and all it takes is one 30mm to end your game.
hey, since you're on the topic of first jets, I just unlocked my first jet in the matter of the MD 450B Ouragan. Have been doing pretty well with this thing, but everybody I play with keeps telling me this jet is trash tier and I should not have grinded it. Only issue I see with it is that the acceleration is pretty low, but again I odn't have much experience with jets so maybe I completely miss the point. Have you ever tested it ?
I don't really get the hate that the Ouragan gets online. It's.. fine. Just about average at everything. It's not like you have many choices anyway. The Vatours are horrible, and why bother with France if you only play the copy pastes.
Because I'm Aussie I went the British tech tree first, and have flown both the meteor and the p80, the p80 can almost put turn the meteor, but has a much better energy retention and top speed. But I'm a sucker for a turn fight and I love the meteor
This was my first jet too, but within my first 3 matches I managed to get an ace. Maybe it's because I flew the mustang a lot. It just felt natural to do the same thing in this as a mustang.
How i started off with jets was the Me 262 A-2a, I was trying to get the Rare tiger H1 skin, Got the skin, but ended up getting the jet on the 4th case, And you know what happens when someone gets at jet when their only at Rank 3 planes.
Glad to see this. The F-80A-5 is a ‘hidden gem.’ Yes, plenty of people unlock it. But few master it. I will say, however, that the F-80C-10 is absolutely *not* worth the BR increase you get with it, and I am certain you get double the up-tiers with it than you do the A-5. The C-10’s performance increase comes from water injection (engaged via WEP in-game, obviously), which was seen as sort of an early afterburning, of sorts. But the increase mild increase in thrust (of which you only have a few minutes, anyways) is not worth the BR spike, as I said. Besides, once you’re out of WEP, your thrust is essentially equivalent to the A-5. The C-10’s AN/M3 .50s are also worthless, IMO. Don’t get me wrong, I fucking *love* the .50 in-game, but the AN/M3 fires *too* fast; The amount of time you need on-target to score a kill is virtually the same as the A-5, but you burn up roughly 60% more ammo than the AN/M2s. Anyways, the A-5 is the US tree’s penultimate energy fighter, IMO, before you start to get to jets that make up for low energy states with thrust alone. While her acceleration is poor, once you get up-to-speed, it’s hard to lose it, assuming you’re not yanking and banking. If anyone is interested in a mode detailed strategy guide, please see the F-80A-5’s War Thunder Wiki page. I wrote the ‘Usage in Battles’ section (the rest of the article, particularly the opening paragraph is desperately in-need of a re-write, as well, but I digress) and if you follow that guide, as a new to intermediate player, you’ll have a positive K/D within a few flights.
Eh the increase in thrust through water injection is quite significant, but only if you use it in short burst to accelerate quickly from a low speed. In more technical terms: The water injections isn't going to raise your top speed by much, because aerodynamics. It however can increase your excess power output by quite a bit at the right speeds.
I'm still not on jets cause 6.0 i play the last corsair variant in the line of naval but the JU-288x thing exist so i hate 6.0 plus the up tier but i watch you're video on that corsair and it helped so if u got anymore hints n tips ill like to know. i like this video to good vid.
I am currently trying to get this jet, I have played the game for about 2 months and is on tier 4, I have 4 more planes to research to get to the F-80A-5.
Can you do a vid on the Mig 21 PFM? I have it but I pretty much get 0 points every match. I am pretty decent with props, usually getting a kill or two per match sometimes 3 and I am ok with my ouragan but this thing just has no ammo and the missiles might aswell not be there they dont seem to hit anything.
do you have any tips to make us very good? Sometimes I die in air rb with no kills at all. I think its because my climb reduces my P51D's speed . How can I improve?
Do you think you could do a vid on the F86? I've only just purchased the french variant, and man. I feel completely useless, kinda sucks that I used all my money to buy it and crew it too! xD
Day 10 of asking to play the yak4 at 2.0 Start by a dive directly at q base that has another base clise to it ( 2 bases beside each other) 4 bombs for each Go straight to your base killing some ai on the way with your 7.62 Some planes will come on your back going in a straigh line with minimal evading is recommended and try to hit their engines with ur turret since they have weak engines a damaged one will lead them to crash i return to the airfield with 2 bases with 4 to 5 ai kills and 1 or 2 planes after taking off i go for bases if left but if not i will focus on ground targets cuz aa is the bain of this plane so bombing airfields is not recommended Bonus:do not forget to have smoke always on to piss the enemies 🤣
@@BeerSougion oh yeah i remember a few years ago every one of these super props were down in BR from where they are now but i never really thought that's what's going on... makes sense unfortunately
I've never had as much fun in Warthunder then when I was flying either P-80s. They've always been surprisingly good in different ways, and were definitely what kept me playing Warthunder for the longest time.
I'd fly them more if they didn't have such high repair costs, they are much fun to play
@@mlgnoscopeblazeit7708 it not easy to die in
I mean, for me they're the reason I quit playing again lmao. I go to play one match so I can continue unlocking jets and oops I have no money now.
The F86 when you have a good lobby and can have actual dogfights it’s spicy spicy! 80’s are awesome too I’m still trying to work through the tree more
@@mlgnoscopeblazeit7708 did it used to be more or is about 4k sl a lot?
As a german main, flying the early 262s this thing was always a menace
Anything is a menace to the 262a
Everything is a menace
@@SharkGoesRawr the 262 kills all prop planes like it’s nothing, nothing is a menace to it, i don’t think you know what menace means
@@bb3683 you don’t know what menace means
@NikkyLD props legit outclimmbs the and some are faster then the 262as(if it doesn't dive). The only 262 that has eazy time ageins prop is the c1
My first jet was the B-57A because I was a bomber main at the time (Still would be a bomber main if it was profitable). B-57s were super fun to play when not worrying about absurd repair costs, boom in then vanish like a fart in the wind
Lol just get an il28 and enjoy being constantly downtiered to 7.0 where even the fastest jets can't catch you and if they dive your gunner will just fuck them from 1km
I came back to warthunder recently and you’re like an echo except I never continued to the high tier jets, I just have an affinity for the prop dogfights and nuisances that I just never found in the instant jet matches :P anyhow keep it up I’m so happy to see people actually making stuff for this game even in its seemingly pay to win stale state in my opinion, keep it up dude :D
My first jetfighter was the Ouragan, I used to hate it a lot and got told that it sucks but I came back to WT and it feels very nice to fly. Even won an engagement against a migh 15 bis in it lol, sadly didnt get to kill it cause I got third partied, but still made me feel good about my maneuvering skill.
Its a pretty solid starter jet! Good BR and stable platform - has good utility in ground RB.
in my eyes the best starter jet is the F3D. It's (relatively) fast, it'll turn better than the stat card suggests, 4 M3 20mms... two radars, two "pilots", two engines and two dinner plates for a windshield. It's a great way to learn energy, plus airspawn.
yeah but the uptier for f3d = death
@@intechio9013was coming in to say exactly this
It’s good but the uptier is not it
This was the first jet I researched, but because I was grinding the 'Space Race' event I didn't realise I was researching it and just autopiloted from one plane to the next and then realised when the event ended I was researching the F-84B now (back when the US tree only had 4 lines), and just for the memes I have never and will never test fly the F--80's either of them. God I am an idiot.
Dude thank you so much for the cockpit view kill, looked so awesome!
"You get crazy one taps every once in a while" is the truest statement yet about this jet
very well made video i loved it keep up the good work
the shootingstar is a very good jet fighter in my opinion, it's just a good jet. excellent video jetnoob fantastic content as always👍
Perfect warthunder channel for watching before sleep, soothing voice and sounds. Subscribed.
And also just sounds like a cool person
this man is a video making machine
Yooo jetnoob love the content keep it up 🔥
Love the F-80, hated it on release.
Also loved using the Mig-9 late at this tier. Was great about 1 year ago, haven’t played in a year , so I don’t know how the BR has changed. At some point as well the first gen Mig-15 was amazing to fly, no missile lobbies.
Lol this is the second video I’ve accidentally uploaded. Oops.
Enjoy anyway :D
I never thought I'd get into jets as they move too fast for me. I barely keep up with props and most of my level 100 is from doing CAS in Air RB. Then the snail gave me the A10 and I will spade this beautiful tank killing ugly big bird until I get the four AAs. I do try once in a while to do jet combat but only to remind me how much I suck at it.
Enjoying your content. Been watching your stuff for a few weeks. I like your style of reviews and then actual gameplay. It's a good mix. I'm just getting back into WT from a 4+ year hiatus. Really rusty, trying to play on a laptop with touchpad; not the best. Haven't even attempted to fly my jets (lvl 100), just reacquainting myself with props. I may try to snag an external keyboard and mouse - have only had six matches since returning.
i am yet to aquire jet aircraft but i still greatly enjoy your content
You played well with the F-80, I'm also thinking of taking it, I used the Kikka, but I didn't like it very much, it's hard to hit and it doesn't curve much, the last match you played a lot, too bad the battle wasn't won because of the plow, but it was good
A few days ago I caught 2 matches where B-29s did the same thing, I made a point of flying to them with my Kikka and shooting them down :D
I had this jet back in 2014, it felt invincible if you just kept your speed up
Of all the starter jets the Shooting Star and the MiG-9 have gotta be my favorites, shooting star has excellent preformance and the MiG-9 has great armament while teaching you to manage energy
I’ve almost got the f 80 and I think that this video helps me understand the jet and my first jet so thank you
This little monster outperformed me in a su-11
YO THAT WAS ME IN THE SU11 IM FLUFFY_WUFFY (timestamp 7:24) I NEVER KNEW I WAS IN A GAME WITH U I MESSED UP MY LANDING AND DIED LOL I LOVE U BRO FR
I am incognito xd
Grind the F-80C-10, it's even better! Insane turnrate (not THE best turning jet, but definately one of them!), great roll, great energy retention, great handling even at lower speeds and of course it's still the fastest jet out there. If you play your cards right this thing is an absolute beast and is capable of whacking almost everything it faces!
Fastest jet out there? What the heck are you even talking about? At 7.7BR your performance is kinda shit compared to other jets of the same BR, not to mention if you get uptiered which happens a lot. You can only pray for low level out of energy players. If you want a 7.7 jet the F-84RE is much better
I've seen that Shiba Army kid far too many times, he's a certified afk climber bomber main extraordinnaire
Well, I'm going to go back and visit this as I'm proper rubbish at the game, but this might help me learn.... especially if its a balanced game most of the time, after 6 years of 'flying - go -Boom', I'll try anything. Cool vid chap. 👌✌🤙🤘🖖👍
Ah yes. Looking back at the K/D ratios of your first jet in War Thunder. I'm not sure if mine is positive, but the K/battle ratio is certainly worse than what I was able to achieve in props.
To be fair to your comment at the end, the .50 cal’s DID suck horribly at multiple points, so you might not have been completely wrong to dislike them; there was a period early on where they’d go from flamethrowers to peashooters and back every other patch
As someone who got the german jets first (jabo me 262 and horten for now) this is the least of my concerns with f 84 (just unlocked it) being an absolute menace
F80a5 is the first jet ive gotten at sucks not because it poorly performs but because the fact its repair cost so fucking high an the su 11 stomps an gets in matchs with its constantly
My first jet was the M.D. 450, and I ate P-80s & F-84s for breakfast :)
Oh boy so glad I went for the banshee first so that it can immediately get fucked over by migs, sabres, and AA missles. Time to spend another 8 months grinding out another path now.
Skill issue
god if i was a few weeks earlier this plane would still be good, now its a peashooter compared to every enemy, you can outplay them over and over but your guns wont kill them and all it takes is one 30mm to end your game.
The guns are great: *continuesly to see you miss a spray for 5 secs straight*
First for me was the Yak-15P. God what a mistake that was LOL.
60 rounds of frozen peas.
Second was Mig-15 and now THATS a jet!
My first jet was the Arado B2 lmao. I was a bomber guy back then and became an Arado C3 enjoyer flying it as a heavy fighter
This was a fun ass video to watch ngl
hey, since you're on the topic of first jets, I just unlocked my first jet in the matter of the MD 450B Ouragan.
Have been doing pretty well with this thing, but everybody I play with keeps telling me this jet is trash tier and I should not have grinded it. Only issue I see with it is that the acceleration is pretty low, but again I odn't have much experience with jets so maybe I completely miss the point.
Have you ever tested it ?
I don't really get the hate that the Ouragan gets online. It's.. fine. Just about average at everything.
It's not like you have many choices anyway. The Vatours are horrible, and why bother with France if you only play the copy pastes.
I should try it again too, both of those.. Spaded them years ago, never touched them again..
Because I'm Aussie I went the British tech tree first, and have flown both the meteor and the p80, the p80 can almost put turn the meteor, but has a much better energy retention and top speed.
But I'm a sucker for a turn fight and I love the meteor
MORE CONTENT TO WATCH AAAAAAA
This was my first jet too, but within my first 3 matches I managed to get an ace. Maybe it's because I flew the mustang a lot. It just felt natural to do the same thing in this as a mustang.
He says he’s sucks at aiming but he still gets 6 kills
How i started off with jets was the Me 262 A-2a, I was trying to get the Rare tiger H1 skin, Got the skin, but ended up getting the jet on the 4th case, And you know what happens when someone gets at jet when their only at Rank 3 planes.
Its defenetly the best jet to transition from props, you get 50cals that you should be used to by now and you can turn pretty well
Glad to see this. The F-80A-5 is a ‘hidden gem.’
Yes, plenty of people unlock it. But few master it. I will say, however, that the F-80C-10 is absolutely *not* worth the BR increase you get with it, and I am certain you get double the up-tiers with it than you do the A-5. The C-10’s performance increase comes from water injection (engaged via WEP in-game, obviously), which was seen as sort of an early afterburning, of sorts. But the increase mild increase in thrust (of which you only have a few minutes, anyways) is not worth the BR spike, as I said. Besides, once you’re out of WEP, your thrust is essentially equivalent to the A-5.
The C-10’s AN/M3 .50s are also worthless, IMO. Don’t get me wrong, I fucking *love* the .50 in-game, but the AN/M3 fires *too* fast; The amount of time you need on-target to score a kill is virtually the same as the A-5, but you burn up roughly 60% more ammo than the AN/M2s.
Anyways, the A-5 is the US tree’s penultimate energy fighter, IMO, before you start to get to jets that make up for low energy states with thrust alone. While her acceleration is poor, once you get up-to-speed, it’s hard to lose it, assuming you’re not yanking and banking.
If anyone is interested in a mode detailed strategy guide, please see the F-80A-5’s War Thunder Wiki page. I wrote the ‘Usage in Battles’ section (the rest of the article, particularly the opening paragraph is desperately in-need of a re-write, as well, but I digress) and if you follow that guide, as a new to intermediate player, you’ll have a positive K/D within a few flights.
Eh the increase in thrust through water injection is quite significant, but only if you use it in short burst to accelerate quickly from a low speed.
In more technical terms: The water injections isn't going to raise your top speed by much, because aerodynamics. It however can increase your excess power output by quite a bit at the right speeds.
Just unlocked a few hours ago.. Its like i had a new baby 😍
Just started researching this plane. Hope I will like it.
My first premium and 2nd to last was the Su-11. It's so broken. Brakes suck though so belly landings are a must.
The intro stats look like my kd in all planes last season
They really need to make it so ground targets dont count towards tickets only the bases should.
I'm still not on jets cause 6.0 i play the last corsair variant in the line of naval but the JU-288x thing exist so i hate 6.0 plus the up tier but i watch you're video on that corsair and it helped so if u got anymore hints n tips ill like to know.
i like this video to good vid.
One wonders how and why the JU-288 hasn't been bumped up a BR given Gaijin supposedly balances on "stuhtistics".
Sometimes I wished Gaijin could do something about players climbing to space or at least not have the game end cause of the ground forces
I have a question I just got my first jets and idk if I should use the f-84 or the f-80
Don’t forget the f84, it’s my first jet and is super fast and fun, u can outrun anything
is the discord still up? not been seeing any new links and the old ones kinda invalid
Sorry, I’ve been forgetting to put the link in there.
I’ll put it in the description real quick for ya.
what is that bloom i want that THE G L O W
N8ce video
Please make a video on how to deal with the su11
Love the plane but don't love how I have to wait 20 minutes to get into a game with it
I’m researching the plane at the moment, wish me luck
I am currently trying to get this jet, I have played the game for about 2 months and is on tier 4, I have 4 more planes to research to get to the
F-80A-5.
fun
This is still my only jet and I'm really bad at the game but this I do better with than most of my other planes
i swear it had a nickname of the shooting star
I just unlocked my first jet (the same), I struggle a little cause all of the Su-11 and I feel people go for the F-80A-5 more than other planes.
I wish this was my first jet but my first was the f2h-2 banshee and it was hell
Can you do a vid on the Mig 21 PFM? I have it but I pretty much get 0 points every match. I am pretty decent with props, usually getting a kill or two per match sometimes 3 and I am ok with my ouragan but this thing just has no ammo and the missiles might aswell not be there they dont seem to hit anything.
It kinda looks a T-33 Shooting Star, minus the tip tanks.
Funny plen, can you make video on lansen? Sweden vid was good
do you have any tips to make us very good?
Sometimes I die in air rb with no kills at all. I think its because my climb reduces my P51D's speed . How can I improve?
Yah, play UK/Russia. 😄
Do you think you could do a vid on the F86? I've only just purchased the french variant, and man. I feel completely useless, kinda sucks that I used all my money to buy it and crew it too! xD
Sorry, I meant F84F
This plane is suffering in this br
I constantly lose the Me 262 1A with this because they always head on me.
My first jet was the f84, it was not the best starter jet, but i still had fun with it
It is
sick
i cut my teeth on the meteor then sea meteor before it became sea jesus. it was fackin horrific
outro song?
about to get my first non premium jet, the meteor
where do u stream
Here on RUclips
An su-11 talk about half the enemy team
currently flying this plane at stock to unlock the phantom due to tree rebalance --- I HATE IT STOCK
I got a 6 kill game like the third time I ever played this
Remember the flaps can go to 530kph without overloading
Do you have any reccomendations for new jets for Germany?
Mig15bis and skip the he162
@@SharkGoesRawr thx
is the f80a-5 better than the f84?
ding dong
Fit a-5 is great what about the C-10
My first jet was the me 163
I was so bad I switched to America. I still sucked in the f80
Day 10 of asking to play the yak4 at 2.0
Start by a dive directly at q base that has another base clise to it ( 2 bases beside each other) 4 bombs for each
Go straight to your base killing some ai on the way with your 7.62
Some planes will come on your back going in a straigh line with minimal evading is recommended and try to hit their engines with ur turret since they have weak engines a damaged one will lead them to crash i return to the airfield with 2 bases with 4 to 5 ai kills and 1 or 2 planes after taking off i go for bases if left but if not i will focus on ground targets cuz aa is the bain of this plane so bombing airfields is not recommended
Bonus:do not forget to have smoke always on to piss the enemies 🤣
You need to climb at around 500-600 for max climbrate in jets, thank me later. Jets generate wayyy more power at higher speed
are you a main of any country?
Nah I play just about all of them.
But man the repair cost is so high
Literally after this video, I went 5-0-1 😂
The thing is so expensive to fly out.
It was my first as well
what is the best us prop?
the P-51D-30 and F4U-4B are p solid
@@xavier4519 F8F-1B or F2G, P-51H, but best BR'ed planes are many
@@BeerSougion the super props just have terrible matchmaking but in terms of performance yeah
@@xavier4519 US supers are a bit overtired because of the Ju288 spam, for the rest they a among the nicest planes to fly.
@@BeerSougion oh yeah i remember a few years ago every one of these super props were down in BR from where they are now but i never really thought that's what's going on... makes sense unfortunately