So true and great analogy! There is no reason for trolls to come on pages to criticize and discourage others just for meanness. I know it’s been a nightmare. But, you’re getting there! You’ve been very disciplined and determined! You’ll make it ❤
I'm tapering way slower than other people and it doesn't matter! I feel these symptoms 100%. Each of us have a different story. You got this Patrick!!!!
I do not know anyone that says that it’s not hard. Most say it’s going through hell ( and back). But you will heal… and then life is so beautiful. Thank you❤
Thanks for bringing this up There seems to be a lot of this on the forums to different degrees No one in this chooses not to work or participate in life, we’d do anything to!
Exactly! People don’t realize how difficult it truly is. Literally NO ONE would choose this. No one. I personally would give just about anything to just be able to drive my car again, go to a grocery store. Just basic things that I really miss doing. This is NOT a choice. Really irritating when people think it is… but we will get through it. I believe that, even though it’s very very hard to believe often times I just have to hold on to that hope!
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal absolutely Also for me, it’s not only what I can’t do, but what I can’t feel.. just to feel Ok and comfortable in mind, body and spirit Hold on to that hope, we will all make it through You’re very wise and that’s admirable
Coming off pills is very hard. I had emergency surgery and had to give up smoking and opioid use.20 years of use No script and now I'm going threw drawls and having to heal. This sucks bad . These kinda videos are absolutely helpful for motivation. Thanks for the video they motivate me to keep pushing for my health and trying to continue pushing forward. Great video.
I was also on opiods (methadone) for about 14 years, I took my last dose of methadone 8 months ago, it will get better you just have to push through. just remember how many are going through what you're going through and many have already been through it so your not alone. also try going on some of the forums I spent countless hours reading peoples experiences during withdrawal and it helps for some reason. how long has it been since last dose? can you talk to your doctor about getting you on clonodine (not klonopin) this medication makes symptoms less intense. if you have any questions let me know I can point you towards certain supplements that can help speed things up a bit.
Same w ssris. Most people who say they didn't either were not on it long or went on another med. The side effects and withdrawl is bad and can get awful
I don’t have personal experience but I’ve heard that as well. I know they don’t carry the seizure risk benzo withdrawal does which I think is why people don’t tend to focus as much on withdrawal from them, people don’t really realize the seizure risk is far from the only or even worst thing. The pure misery of it all can be almost unbearable. Whether it be SSRI, SNRI, benzo or any psych med that can cause bad withdrawal we need to be better educated on them before ever starting them! I know I’d have never touched a benzo had my doctor warned me about this
As soon as I wake up this horrible anxiety builds up. Every day. I'm forced to do intense breathing techniques. When it's mitigated I'm left with a low self esteem and a bad cognition. And it will start over in the afternoon. My days are counted. Was kicked out of clinic. Telling me it's all in my head.
Yeah those people are who are being critical don't understand withdrawal and if a person doesn't know. It can involve protracted withdrawal, which can cause brain injurie.
Yes absolutely! PVCs have been a very consistent issue for me, they’re not quite as bad these past few weeks as they have been but I’ve had times it felt like every other heart beat was skipped or doing something weird. Very scary for sure but I have had my heart checked and it was good. Dizziness and balance issues are horrible. Occasionally I’ll be able to stand for a few minutes or walk a little without them but many times I’m having to hold onto walls to walk. I even had to get a cane, just in case I needed it. As far as aches and pains I do have them but I have diagnosed Fibromyalgia for the past 15 years. Far before I ever even started taking benzos, so pain is a constant for me and I can’t say it’s due to the benzos since I do have fibromyalgia. I’m not saying they may not have made it worse, I just can’t say for certain one way or another. I blame my pain on fibromyalgia not benzos but I do know many people have aches and pains through withdrawal.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal Well, I’m praying for you You’re definitely not alone in this battle I suffer myself lorazepam , along with other medication’s for my heart in pain. Definitely is not fun . 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. We will get through it. God loves you.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawalhey Paul , my heart and prayers go out to you…. I’ve experienced light forms of withdrawal and whoever says ANYTHING about you overegagerating haven’t been through it,, Benzodiazepines have the longest lasting effects and absolutely torture you alive …. Many addicts say they’d rather be detoxified from heroin coke and meth all at once than benzodiazepines,, It’s one of two drugs alchohol is the other that can cause death ( your being monitored carefully Patrick your gonna be ok I don’t wanna scare ya ). Well your an inspiration to me because I been in your shoes and it’s being tortured alive Stay strong my friend !
I cold turkeyed 16mg of Subutex after a decade on it. That was a bad withdrawal. It still doesn't even come close to what I've experienced going through benzo withdrawal. It is worse than any opiate withdrawal I've been through by 100 times and also goes on and on and on. I'm tapering V now and even 1% cuts are as bad as or worse than cold turkeying opiates.
A few things, I’m kind of embarrassed to say I didn’t know different kinds of POTS existed😬. For me I’ve had POTS, as in very high heart rate when in an elevated position, for just about my entire taper. I’ve had my heart rate hitting 150-160 just simply by standing up. Over the past 3-4 months that particular symptom has GREATLY improved. I’ll still have episodes of it but then I’ll have times I can stand up for 5-10 minutes and my heart rate never goes much above 115-120. I still don’t feel that it’s back to normal but it definitely has improved for me
How do you cope with the panic attacks during your taper? I’ve been on klonopin for panic attacks since I was 15, 28 now. It doesn’t work much anymore but I stay on it because I am so so so terrified of tapering. I’m worried it’ll be worse since I started it when my brain was still so young and developing. I can hardly tolerate my anxiety now so I feel like a taper would absolutely break me… I wish you the best Patrick ❤
I feel you there. I was 16 when they put Me on klonopin. An now im 27 they cold turkeyed me in jail. All I can say is that sometimes you just gotta take heart. An deal with it. It's really hard. I'm stoll suffering an it's the hardest thing I've ever done. I cant beleive I'm stoll alive.
Tapering with valium or diazepam may be best, a very slow taper. Praying to God and meditation can help as well. It has helped me quit alcohol and get rid of my valium obsession
We are all wired very differently and there is a spectrum on everything. We are all effected very differently from all foods and all drugs. No one since human existence can take credit for anything in life. You do not get to pick and choose who and what you become in life. Everything in life is all chance and luck. You can not take credit for your success, achievements, personality, looks, IQ, height, genetics, thoughts and all the hard work that you put in to become successful. You cannot take credit for who you are. Only psychopaths and Narcissistic and those who have the Kanye West god complex thing going on will deny this hard to swallow truth
Unfortunately I’m not able to give a good answer to that. I can say for me I was first prescribed them in 2019, I had no idea my body had become physically dependent on them until mid to late 2022 when I realized how much worse my anxiety had become while on them. Once I started trying to taper it really sunk in that I was completely dependent on them. Thankfully my doctor is working with me to slowly taper down. Keep in mind physical dependence and addiction are different. Addiction tends to seek out a substance for the “high” of it whereas dependence means your body isn’t able to function well without it but without the addiction seeking behavior. For me I’ve only ever taken them as directed and still became dependent. If you are on them just be very careful and follow doctors advice! Taper slowly if you’re able! I’m sorry I can’t be of more help but hopefully that at least helps a bit🙏🏻
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal Thx Patrick for your response. I’ve been on Klonopin for 20 years with no side effects but I wish my doctors would have informed me that this meds are short term only. Wishing you the best in your healing process my friend. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
So true and great analogy! There is no reason for trolls to come on pages to criticize and discourage others just for meanness. I know it’s been a nightmare. But, you’re getting there! You’ve been very disciplined and determined! You’ll make it ❤
I'm tapering way slower than other people and it doesn't matter! I feel these symptoms 100%. Each of us have a different story. You got this Patrick!!!!
I do not know anyone that says that it’s not hard. Most say it’s going through hell ( and back). But you will heal… and then life is so beautiful. Thank you❤
Thanks for bringing this up
There seems to be a lot of this on the forums to different degrees
No one in this chooses not to work or participate in life, we’d do anything to!
Exactly! People don’t realize how difficult it truly is. Literally NO ONE would choose this. No one. I personally would give just about anything to just be able to drive my car again, go to a grocery store. Just basic things that I really miss doing. This is NOT a choice. Really irritating when people think it is… but we will get through it. I believe that, even though it’s very very hard to believe often times I just have to hold on to that hope!
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal absolutely
Also for me, it’s not only what I can’t do, but what I can’t feel.. just to feel
Ok and comfortable in mind, body and spirit
Hold on to that hope, we will all make it through
You’re very wise and that’s admirable
I’m glad you brought this subject to light. I wish you many more better days going forward. 😊
Extremely difficult to stop. I know your body can demand what it needs, physically hard to ignore.
Thanks a lot for your video
God bless you!
Coming off pills is very hard. I had emergency surgery and had to give up smoking and opioid use.20 years of use No script and now I'm going threw drawls and having to heal. This sucks bad . These kinda videos are absolutely helpful for motivation. Thanks for the video they motivate me to keep pushing for my health and trying to continue pushing forward. Great video.
I was also on opiods (methadone) for about 14 years, I took my last dose of methadone 8 months ago, it will get better you just have to push through. just remember how many are going through what you're going through and many have already been through it so your not alone. also try going on some of the forums I spent countless hours reading peoples experiences during withdrawal and it helps for some reason. how long has it been since last dose? can you talk to your doctor about getting you on clonodine (not klonopin) this medication makes symptoms less intense. if you have any questions let me know I can point you towards certain supplements that can help speed things up a bit.
Thanks for spending some of your precious energy on making videos like this. Take care 🪬
Unfortunately I am suffering from Protracted withdrawal syndrome!!
After a 7 year prescription was cut cold 🥶 turkey
It is hell on earth 💚🙏💚
Same w ssris. Most people who say they didn't either were not on it long or went on another med. The side effects and withdrawl is bad and can get awful
I don’t have personal experience but I’ve heard that as well. I know they don’t carry the seizure risk benzo withdrawal does which I think is why people don’t tend to focus as much on withdrawal from them, people don’t really realize the seizure risk is far from the only or even worst thing. The pure misery of it all can be almost unbearable. Whether it be SSRI, SNRI, benzo or any psych med that can cause bad withdrawal we need to be better educated on them before ever starting them! I know I’d have never touched a benzo had my doctor warned me about this
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal you're absolutely right and I'm rooting for you. ♥
Yes, both side effects, and then the withdrawal from ssri is minimised even by doctors.
I've never met anyone who says benzo withdrawal is easy!!
I was on a low dose of clonazepam for 20 years for anxiety and suddenly was cut off. It took 2 years to withdraw from it. Hell.
As soon as I wake up this horrible anxiety builds up. Every day. I'm forced to do intense breathing techniques. When it's mitigated I'm left with a low self esteem and a bad cognition. And it will start over in the afternoon. My days are counted. Was kicked out of clinic. Telling me it's all in my head.
Do you have physical symptoms?
I did it 14 years ago, it was awful, I did it cold turkey, I wanted to die, it was hell, I will never take it again good luck to you
Nobody knows how vicious it is until they have experienced w/d. Doctors can kiss my azz.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeah those people are who are being critical don't understand withdrawal and if a person doesn't know. It can involve protracted withdrawal, which can cause brain injurie.
I feel your pain! 😢
Do you have PVCs with these withdrawals ?
And like dizzy , balance issues ,
Aches and pains ?
Yes absolutely! PVCs have been a very consistent issue for me, they’re not quite as bad these past few weeks as they have been but I’ve had times it felt like every other heart beat was skipped or doing something weird. Very scary for sure but I have had my heart checked and it was good. Dizziness and balance issues are horrible. Occasionally I’ll be able to stand for a few minutes or walk a little without them but many times I’m having to hold onto walls to walk. I even had to get a cane, just in case I needed it. As far as aches and pains I do have them but I have diagnosed Fibromyalgia for the past 15 years. Far before I ever even started taking benzos, so pain is a constant for me and I can’t say it’s due to the benzos since I do have fibromyalgia. I’m not saying they may not have made it worse, I just can’t say for certain one way or another. I blame my pain on fibromyalgia not benzos but I do know many people have aches and pains through withdrawal.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal
Well, I’m praying for you You’re definitely not alone in this battle I suffer myself lorazepam , along with other medication’s for my heart in pain.
Definitely is not fun .
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. We will get through it. God loves you.
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawalhey Paul , my heart and prayers go out to you…. I’ve experienced light forms of withdrawal and whoever says ANYTHING about you overegagerating haven’t been through it,, Benzodiazepines have the longest lasting effects and absolutely torture you alive …. Many addicts say they’d rather be detoxified from heroin coke and meth all at once than benzodiazepines,, It’s one of two drugs alchohol is the other that can cause death ( your being monitored carefully Patrick your gonna be ok I don’t wanna scare ya ). Well your an inspiration to me because I been in your shoes and it’s being tortured alive Stay strong my friend !
You not alone. This is much worse than words can describe.
I cold turkeyed 16mg of Subutex after a decade on it. That was a bad withdrawal. It still doesn't even come close to what I've experienced going through benzo withdrawal. It is worse than any opiate withdrawal I've been through by 100 times and also goes on and on and on. I'm tapering V now and even 1% cuts are as bad as or worse than cold turkeying opiates.
From what I’ve seen I think one in 10 people truly go through hell.
It's gotta be more then that. Thsts a iffy guess.
I'm guessing 60% go through hell, 40% get lucky
@@graysonguice5956 yea that sounds more realistic
One of the hardest, I started my taper a year ago.
Amen Patrick 🙏😘
What kind of POTS do you have? I have hyperadrengic
A few things, I’m kind of embarrassed to say I didn’t know different kinds of POTS existed😬. For me I’ve had POTS, as in very high heart rate when in an elevated position, for just about my entire taper. I’ve had my heart rate hitting 150-160 just simply by standing up. Over the past 3-4 months that particular symptom has GREATLY improved. I’ll still have episodes of it but then I’ll have times I can stand up for 5-10 minutes and my heart rate never goes much above 115-120. I still don’t feel that it’s back to normal but it definitely has improved for me
I’m having a very scared day.
I’m tired.
Sorry to hear that, how are you feeling now? @@Thatsbannanas-d8c
How do you cope with the panic attacks during your taper? I’ve been on klonopin for panic attacks since I was 15, 28 now. It doesn’t work much anymore but I stay on it because I am so so so terrified of tapering. I’m worried it’ll be worse since I started it when my brain was still so young and developing. I can hardly tolerate my anxiety now so I feel like a taper would absolutely break me… I wish you the best Patrick ❤
I feel you there. I was 16 when they put Me on klonopin. An now im 27 they cold turkeyed me in jail. All I can say is that sometimes you just gotta take heart. An deal with it. It's really hard. I'm stoll suffering an it's the hardest thing I've ever done. I cant beleive I'm stoll alive.
Tapering with valium or diazepam may be best, a very slow taper. Praying to God and meditation can help as well. It has helped me quit alcohol and get rid of my valium obsession
We are all wired very differently and there is a spectrum on everything. We are all effected very differently from all foods and all drugs. No one since human existence can take credit for anything in life. You do not get to pick and choose who and what you become in life. Everything in life is all chance and luck. You can not take credit for your success, achievements, personality, looks, IQ, height, genetics, thoughts and all the hard work that you put in to become successful. You cannot take credit for who you are. Only psychopaths and Narcissistic and those who have the Kanye West god complex thing going on will deny this hard to swallow truth
How long before a person is physically addicted to benzodiazepines? I hear from 2 weeks to a month. Thx for your videos
Unfortunately I’m not able to give a good answer to that. I can say for me I was first prescribed them in 2019, I had no idea my body had become physically dependent on them until mid to late 2022 when I realized how much worse my anxiety had become while on them. Once I started trying to taper it really sunk in that I was completely dependent on them. Thankfully my doctor is working with me to slowly taper down.
Keep in mind physical dependence and addiction are different. Addiction tends to seek out a substance for the “high” of it whereas dependence means your body isn’t able to function well without it but without the addiction seeking behavior. For me I’ve only ever taken them as directed and still became dependent. If you are on them just be very careful and follow doctors advice! Taper slowly if you’re able!
I’m sorry I can’t be of more help but hopefully that at least helps a bit🙏🏻
@@Patricksbenzowithdrawal Thx Patrick for your response. I’ve been on Klonopin for 20 years with no side effects but I wish my doctors would have informed me that this meds are short term only.
Wishing you the best in your healing process my friend. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Hi, you look like how I feel. I’m busted.
It can kill you.
Thanks! 😃👎
Withdrawals are a right of passion
Highly agreed 100% !!