To this day when I hear someone say Things could be better; I literally think about Ecstasy's line "Things could be better, I know they could; but ya got to take the bad along with the good." RIP John Fletcher.
Big Dog liked it the 1st time I heard it , Me & my Boys played it 3x before we got to ECHO SCRATCH whole album is dope, better than 1/2 the garbage that's out now ........ONE LOVE !
Whodini definitely brought The MAJIC!! Met Ecstasy in Lake Charles Louisiana concert. Very down to earth . Believe in or not this man took out time to listen to me talk about The Lords goodness🙏 He had just performed and I’m sure he was tired but he took out time just to let me minister to him about The Lord. Now he’s With The Lord R.I.P Humble soul.
The best and most intelligent lyrics, the most original beats, the most innovative music arrangements ... They don't make hip-hop, or music in general, like this anymore.
I remember in middle school this song literally taught me how to be a go getter, to be prepared, to be ready for opportunities. This song wasn’t just a song - it was wisdom.
Why is it when u hear a old school rap song some folks say they were slept on or underrated or some other dumb comment at the time of the album they were at the top of their game . just because some young folks maybe wasn't around at the time doesn't mean they were slept on thats just plain stupid
@@anthonytaylor7928 because they would slept on they wasn't they wasn't given the credit they deserve even when they was alive they had to present themselves to become known for what they did no one paid attention to Houdini you actually if you used to ask a young person or ask a person who listen to old school music who do is who Danny the first thing they say I never heard of them before I've had people grown say I haven't heard them before so when you ask this question this is irrelevant because they're all a lot of people who don't even know who they is that listen to Hip Hop they don't even show them when they posting them on social media it took a lot of fans to stress out about who who their favorite Entertainer rap group was for the peoples to say oh okay yeah we going to put them on the post I see a lot of rappers called greater rappers of old times who wasn't even there in the old times so why you asking an irrelevant question about why do people say they were slapped on pay attention they was not even notice that when they finally got their representation and they start doing tributes for them it was after they said oh who didn't shut off oh they wasted this money they did this and that it took them to say negative stuff that wasn't irrelevant so people to say oh who who is this group and then when they heard they music oh yeah my grandfather my uncle used to listen to that but it's a lot of groups out there like Houdini didn't get the airplane until they lost the number or two yeah I'll message Jay he was when he he was in really put out there until after he was killed they still don't recognize Grandma's Dee he had to go to different places to represent other DJs for him to get notice of who he is they have to play videos of this group Houdini for them to get recognized so when you when you make a point about people asking saying if they were slept on that's irrelevant because you can't judge what other people say because you don't know where they're going cuz you never been there that's just like if you made a music hit and your stuff don't get recognized right away but you hear people something in your Beats or using your music they ask who is this person how this person how is this this person beat when I heard somebody else using it so you got to be put in their shoes to know why they will slap on they even said people slept on those people say we weren't as great as we would the money they should have been earning they should have been making more money for the music they made ice cube sample they beat a lot of rappers sample they beat it's still simple in that beats to this day you can't tell cuz you you don't recognize the beats but what they did instead of them saying okay they we not recognized let me go to school listen to the new school people and they start showing love to the new school people and when the new school people see who they was oh I know this person I used my ancestors used to listen to this this is a smooth beat you know so they have been slapped on you you seen Run DMC and everything you've seen Houdini made recent songs that run them see them didn't make after that and the songs that Houdini made it didn't really get the love and the respect that it deserved because people were so into that killing a hip hop hardcore stuff but they wouldn't listen to positive music someone who did his music was some positive but the rest of their music was positive so when you ask a relative question like that I'm an answer positive answer they have not been recognized correctly it took after ecstasy was was killed or how he died however they still don't know how he just up and died either way it goes he's gone you hear new people saying oh rest in peace that's to see at least to listen to your music all the time come on you one of them you didn't really pay attention to Houdini until they die
@@sammjackson70 Good Lawd! Reading all this is homework, sir! Both of you are right; but Sam is more right. Whodini's legacy is underappreciated. Probably the best the group of the 80s
Bought this tape back when it first came out in '86 when I was 19 years old before CD's, MP3's!!! Still jamming after 35 years, most of all I love the comments from everyone!!!
There's Only But One ... Whodini was the Greatest Rap Crew of the History in the Rap Industry, no other could create original lyrics or beats like Whodini; No sampling, no ripping any others sounds of any kind ---pure musical geniuses, and powerful creative imaginations without a doubt or contradiction!!! NOTE: All Others were just honorable mentions ....... Guaranteed!!!
As for me and my Pioneer system back in the day this was truly my favorite Whodini song they ever made. I played this over and over again! I had no idea that AC/DC helped produce it, you can hear the flavor. Damn it saddens me that Ecstasy passed away. Thank you for the memories. Rest in power!!
Rest in Peace Larry Smith & John Fletcher. Your music shaped a lot of people's lives in a positive way , always sent a message something we need more of nowadays.
This song is one of the most complete hip hop songs ever. The music is awesome and guitar is far more superior than walk this way or any other rock riff in hip hop.
Saw them destroy Madison Square Garden on a Friday night December 1985. 20,000 New Yorkers going absolutely bananas. "Back in Black" was such a monster LP this was my favorite cut buried on side two I used to fall asleep to the long guitar solo outro in junior high. Much respect to Jalil and GM Dee a very sad RIP to the rapper Ecstasy.
This was probably the first cassette I ever bought as I started moving away from vinyl albums and singles. But my dad's car still had an 8-track deck in it. I found an adapter that let you play a cassette through an 8 track system. My music was mobile for the first time and this was the track that I blasted the loudest as I was rolling the streets.
At :01 thats where public enemy got that from on "don't believe the hype" ..its on the hook 2 there song. I cant help it i hear things that probably don't even matter 2 the average listeners. Lol
Nah it all matters and it's all cool. I listened to both songs enough to notice it back then. I think it's even cooler to notice how Chuck ALWAYS mentions that Whodini were his mentors and he learned a lot of his voice inflections AND stage presence from Whodini, specifically Ecstacy.
@@frankjum yeah you’re right about Chuck always gives props to Whodini. There is a dvd where Ecstasy talks about wanting to give PE more time when they were on tour together. He saw the greatness in them during that time. RIH ECSTASY. I lost a bit of my teenage years with his death.
Twisting lyrics and hard hitting beats since 1985 the golden years of the chemical city built to lace your cerebellum to hold the golden substance preserve it if you will I still got a great memory in spite of dabbling in the juice it was a long time ago but good to revisit of course keep the jams flowing with elasticity
To this day when I hear someone say Things could be better; I literally think about Ecstasy's line "Things could be better, I know they could; but ya got to take the bad along with the good." RIP John Fletcher.
Yes
One of the best rap groups ever
Whodini were ahead of their time, #period!!!
R.I.P. John "Ecstasy"Fletcher...Thanks for the memories!!
High school days. My favorite rap duo. R.I.P. John Fletcher.
This cut is slept on!!!
FACTS
Never!
That's a fact this a tough joint!!!
Big Dog liked it the 1st time I heard it , Me & my Boys played it 3x before we got to ECHO SCRATCH whole album is dope, better than 1/2 the garbage that's out now ........ONE LOVE !
Rap with rock music ! Nice
Whodini definitely brought The MAJIC!!
Met Ecstasy in Lake Charles Louisiana concert. Very down to earth . Believe in or not this man took out time to listen to me talk about The Lords goodness🙏 He had just performed and I’m sure he was tired but he took out time just to let me minister to him about The Lord. Now he’s With The Lord R.I.P Humble soul.
I agree he was and is a humble person him n jalil and grandmaster Dee I got love for those cats whodini forever.
The best and most intelligent lyrics, the most original beats, the most innovative music arrangements ... They don't make hip-hop, or music in general, like this anymore.
Dam, I was 14 in 1986, and this song is still 🔥!!
I was 4 when this song came out. But I ended up hearing it years later.
I remember in middle school this song literally taught me how to be a go getter, to be prepared, to be ready for opportunities. This song wasn’t just a song - it was wisdom.
Most of their songs are.
The Glory days!!!! Iiss this era!!
Rap & Rock Combination Back In The Days Was A Thing 💯
RIP ECSTASY YOU WERE ONE OF THE BEST TO EVER DO IT! AND THIS IS STILL FUNKY.
Whodini was slept on in general. They were ALL THAT and Ecstasy’s voice was premiere!!!
Why is it when u hear a old school rap song some folks say they were slept on or underrated or some other dumb comment at the time of the album they were at the top of their game . just because some young folks maybe wasn't around at the time doesn't mean they were slept on thats just plain stupid
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@@anthonytaylor7928 because they would slept on they wasn't they wasn't given the credit they deserve even when they was alive they had to present themselves to become known for what they did no one paid attention to Houdini you actually if you used to ask a young person or ask a person who listen to old school music who do is who Danny the first thing they say I never heard of them before I've had people grown say I haven't heard them before so when you ask this question this is irrelevant because they're all a lot of people who don't even know who they is that listen to Hip Hop they don't even show them when they posting them on social media it took a lot of fans to stress out about who who their favorite Entertainer rap group was for the peoples to say oh okay yeah we going to put them on the post I see a lot of rappers called greater rappers of old times who wasn't even there in the old times so why you asking an irrelevant question about why do people say they were slapped on pay attention they was not even notice that when they finally got their representation and they start doing tributes for them it was after they said oh who didn't shut off oh they wasted this money they did this and that it took them to say negative stuff that wasn't irrelevant so people to say oh who who is this group and then when they heard they music oh yeah my grandfather my uncle used to listen to that but it's a lot of groups out there like Houdini didn't get the airplane until they lost the number or two yeah I'll message Jay he was when he he was in really put out there until after he was killed they still don't recognize Grandma's Dee he had to go to different places to represent other DJs for him to get notice of who he is they have to play videos of this group Houdini for them to get recognized so when you when you make a point about people asking saying if they were slept on that's irrelevant because you can't judge what other people say because you don't know where they're going cuz you never been there that's just like if you made a music hit and your stuff don't get recognized right away but you hear people something in your Beats or using your music they ask who is this person how this person how is this this person beat when I heard somebody else using it so you got to be put in their shoes to know why they will slap on they even said people slept on those people say we weren't as great as we would the money they should have been earning they should have been making more money for the music they made ice cube sample they beat a lot of rappers sample they beat it's still simple in that beats to this day you can't tell cuz you you don't recognize the beats but what they did instead of them saying okay they we not recognized let me go to school listen to the new school people and they start showing love to the new school people and when the new school people see who they was oh I know this person I used my ancestors used to listen to this this is a smooth beat you know so they have been slapped on you you seen Run DMC and everything you've seen Houdini made recent songs that run them see them didn't make after that and the songs that Houdini made it didn't really get the love and the respect that it deserved because people were so into that killing a hip hop hardcore stuff but they wouldn't listen to positive music someone who did his music was some positive but the rest of their music was positive so when you ask a relative question like that I'm an answer positive answer they have not been recognized correctly it took after ecstasy was was killed or how he died however they still don't know how he just up and died either way it goes he's gone you hear new people saying oh rest in peace that's to see at least to listen to your music all the time come on you one of them you didn't really pay attention to Houdini until they die
@@sammjackson70 Good Lawd! Reading all this is homework, sir! Both of you are right; but Sam is more right. Whodini's legacy is underappreciated. Probably the best the group of the 80s
Fa sho Ms. Lady, they were at that time and album definitely the best rap group !🎤🎙🎵🎼💽
Those guitar riffs...OMG...I've still got the back n black album..💯💥🔥
Me TOO....the vinyl-album fa'SHO.
Yes sir and with the revival of the vinyk/TT revolution I will be rocking this album this week.
George Young(?) on guitar
@@MAD_1979 Sure is. Lives round the corner from me
We had the album as well.
So happy i grew up on this 🙏🏽
Those guitar riffs are 🔥
Bought this tape back when it first came out in '86 when I was 19 years old before CD's, MP3's!!! Still jamming after 35 years, most of all I love the comments from everyone!!!
What happened to whodini?
It's my favorite whodini song too!
The Back in Black album had three number one hit songs back in 1986❤❤
HAD TO HEAR THIS SONG !!! THIS SONG IS SO GOOD .. I REMEMBERED IT TO THIS DAY !!! ... EVERY WORD IS TRUE !!!
This was my favorite song on this album and it got no radio love.
This song really kick ass. Rap rock cross over Masterpiece. Just awesome
My favorite song of the album still listening in 2024🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
NO one has a smoother complete package (EXCELLENT lyrics and tracks) than Whodini. 😎
There's Only But One ... Whodini was the Greatest Rap Crew of the History in the Rap Industry, no other could create original lyrics or beats like Whodini; No sampling, no ripping any others sounds of any kind ---pure musical geniuses, and powerful creative imaginations without a doubt or contradiction!!! NOTE: All Others were just honorable mentions ....... Guaranteed!!!
Was never real into rap but Ioved these guys. Especially this song. Maybe the best fusion of rap and rock I’ve ever heard
A hit 35 years ago and it still jams hard. Nothing else needs to be said 🔥 🔥 🔥
As for me and my Pioneer system back in the day this was truly my favorite Whodini song they ever made. I played this over and over again! I had no idea that AC/DC helped produce it, you can hear the flavor. Damn it saddens me that Ecstasy passed away. Thank you for the memories. Rest in power!!
Maaan', Listen!!! This shyt rite Here iz Pure Priceless !!!! #DopestBeatEVER !!! 💯✔️💯✔️. .... 😎
This song and when we get to the good part was jammin as well!!!!
Wow Didn't know ac/DC helped in this Dope song. But Even for Black Folk, the Guitar is Dope@ Like Aerosmith for Run Dmc.
Its my favorite whodini song period!
REST IN PEACE TO A LEGEND-JOHN FLETCHER A.K.A ECSTASY-THIS SONG IS IN MY TOP 5 FAVORITE WHODINI SONGS=CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will stay on my play list ❤
This particular track is dope baby
Used to blast this in my ride on my Alpine system back at FAMU
Pioneer speakers and radio for me!!
George Young early producer of AC/DC with the amazing guitar riffs, super underrated track!
I had no idea that AC/DC had their fingerprints on this song.
The riffs are the reason I loved this song when I first bought the cassette in 86'
George Young was a 21 year old session guitarist in London-not the brother to Angus etc-he also played the solo on rock you again (open sesame
One of my 'favorite' joints played on the record player!!
Under rated song
This song is so underrated
& Cassette! 💯
At the top of their craft.
Another true classic. Way before it's time Another true art form gone. Considering most of trash music today. Big UP Nashville
Rest in Peace Larry Smith & John Fletcher. Your music shaped a lot of people's lives in a positive way , always sent a message something we need more of nowadays.
This is my favorite jam back in the 80"s l have played in my Camaro on the pioneer speakers TS6905 .
Pioneer systems were the best back in the day!
This song is one of the most complete hip hop songs ever. The music is awesome and guitar is far more superior than walk this way or any other rock riff in hip hop.
Agreed
Guitar is the best part of the song
💯
I had their poster 😊
This was my favorite song off Back In Black 🎤🎤🎤🎤
Mine too!!!! 💃🏽
Yeah I played the shit out of this song.
This song was and still is a beast!
I heard this on the radio back in the 80s when I was in grammar school and I was hooked ever since. Playing it right now.
ditto
Saw them destroy Madison Square Garden on a Friday night December 1985. 20,000 New Yorkers going absolutely bananas. "Back in Black" was such a monster LP this was my favorite cut buried on side two I used to fall asleep to the long guitar solo outro in junior high. Much respect to Jalil and GM Dee a very sad RIP to the rapper Ecstasy.
Im a 49 year old white guy ! I still Love this song . It has a lot of stright facts . But not to be put in a rude way. The last line is it 😆
Thank you !
Im 48 I feel ya bruh
I'm 46 and I think this song 🎵 has one of the meanest guitar riffs at the end I ever heard.
I love this song too
@rodney3787 you right about that my friend
RIP Ecstasy 🎤✨💫
Whodini will always be tight in my book ❤
❤❤
The first generation of rap-n-roll was fire!!!
one of the best hip hop lps of all time jmc from manny uk
These guys where the best. Their bass was dope! 🔊
This rocks even when Whodini rocks with the best beats and 'funky' beats!!
Jalil had that magical voice Ecstasy had this that Spirit Rising voice so Smooth voice Grandmaster Dee had the Beats so unique powerful and fast
Q voz!!!! Descanse em paz ecstasy whodini!!!!!!!
Bass is DOPE On Good System!
Whodini was one of the best hip hop groups ever! Don't sleep on the best! THIS WAS HIP HOP, NOT RAP!!
CLASSIC JOINT.
My jam still jamming this song in 2022 !! 😎
Marcou minha adolescência nos anos de 1.987......1.988......
To me this was straight gangster music
Rip ex gone but never forgotten 💔 😪
Simply the best!
With all respect to the Rappers who are excellent, The person who made the music deserve respect as well. Excellent team Overall. Respect.
The X Factor Ecstasy smoothest greatest rapper ever rest in peace
This was probably the first cassette I ever bought as I started moving away from vinyl albums and singles. But my dad's car still had an 8-track deck in it. I found an adapter that let you play a cassette through an 8 track system. My music was mobile for the first time and this was the track that I blasted the loudest as I was rolling the streets.
R.I.P. Ecstasy. 😢
I always like this song back in the day! Reminded a little of Run DMC's " Rock Box"! Old school was always about being Creative!
feelz like '86 all over again!!!
No doubt!!!!
Live instrumentation, one of the first. Dope! 🔥 forever!
This my favorite jam .
This is my first time hearing this. Now I know where that sample for Don't Believe The Hype comes from
Their best song.
At :01 thats where public enemy got that from on "don't believe the hype" ..its on the hook 2 there song. I cant help it i hear things that probably don't even matter 2 the average listeners. Lol
Nah it all matters and it's all cool. I listened to both songs enough to notice it back then. I think it's even cooler to notice how Chuck ALWAYS mentions that Whodini were his mentors and he learned a lot of his voice inflections AND stage presence from Whodini, specifically Ecstacy.
Oh I have the same thing going over here you're not alone
Listening to this song gives me goosebumps!! I rocked the hell out of this and Echo Scratch back in the day..
@@frankjum yeah you’re right about Chuck always gives props to Whodini. There is a dvd where Ecstasy talks about wanting to give PE more time when they were on tour together. He saw the greatness in them during that time. RIH ECSTASY. I lost a bit of my teenage years with his death.
Ain't no good party without Whodini!!
This is a BOSS song!
I had this poster on my bedroom wall ❤❤❤
oh shit.....the MEMORIES
One of my FAVS from HS
If I was a fugitive I would want this to play
They were cold
Man this takes me back...
Smooth flow through out listen to the lyrics..I used to play this in my car all the time just riding out
Plz take me back to 1986 summer God
Whodini Legends!!!
A masterpiece ❤️😁
One Of My Favorite Songs Of All Time.....
R.I.P. John Fletcher An Original Elite EmCee.....
One of my favorite groups of all time !!!
Whodini had a string of hits in the 80s but this was my favorite over-all.
Rock on!!!!!!
And you talk about the greatest but leave these brothers out just saying !!!! Love you Ecstacy!!!!!!
Always one of my favorites!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥So many memories!!!!!
This song was one of the all-time classics from Whodini R.IP John Fletcher.
First rap mix tape I ever bought had this song. Still BAD AZZ
“Never know what I’m going to do next, so don’t waste your time don’t try to guess”
"Cause we're the one and only masters of the ceremony. Guaranteed to rock the house! Definitely not a phony!!"
It's beautiful...
Tempo bom que não volta mais.......
Best Rap Group
I love this song and group rip Ecstasy
RIP ECSTASY
Man I wore this album out!!!
RIP Ecstacy
Twisting lyrics and hard hitting beats since 1985 the golden years of the chemical city built to lace your cerebellum to hold the golden substance preserve it if you will I still got a great memory in spite of dabbling in the juice it was a long time ago but good to revisit of course keep the jams flowing with elasticity
We played the shit out of this joint on St Clair Cleveland Ohio .. united we stand divided we fall
It's one of my favorite
This song with the rock music was nice.
My favorite Whodini song