The Oiler's D isn't as bad as some people think. Not even close. It's actually solid. Nurse takes a beating BUT he isn't a horrible Dman he just has a horrible contract. Skinner isn't a top 10 goalie, but is listed in the top 20. I don't see any reason anybody can argue otherwise if they are actually following the league.
Skinner is not top 10 he plays horrible one night then he’s a like hasek the other he’s not consistent, this is coming from a ranger fan so lol. But I will say skinner is top 15-20 so yea but not top 10
Agreed. He was spectacular last year. One of the Top 10 tendies stats wise last year. I understand not putting him in the top 10 because he is more unproven
May seem odd but Carolina seems to still be looking for an upgrade or a 1A, 1B situation. Andersson/Kotch seems pretty solid, but you can't blame them for being worried about Andersson's injuries.
Loved watching demko at bc I knew he was gonna be a stud and Ian Clark is a great goalie coach when hellebuyck maybe starts to slow down I think demko will be the no doubt number 2 goalie in the league. Great video Mike.
Man if Sorokin can get back to that Vezina contending level goaltending and the Isles stay pretty healthy they could go on a 2021 run to the ecf. People underrate Sorokin a lot to be honest. That PP1 looks disgusting with Duclaur Barzal Horvat Nelson Dobson. That was their main weak point. And if Pellech and Pullock returns to the guy we know man this could be an annoying playoff team to play against.
I think judging the best goalies RIGHT NOW you have to put more weight on down years from guys like Sorokin and Saros, hence Swayman should probably jump them in the rankings considering he has been good for the entirety of the last 3 seasons and also the momentum he’s carrying off a ridiculously good playoff run.
I like the list other than I like a few guys better than Jarry, and some small swaps like Lindgren over Thompson. I'd swap Hill and Daccord around as well.
@@MikeBartner Mike I like your podcasts a lot. I agree with you on a lot of things. I'm big in to pools, and was pretty successful last season again. I'd love to compare lists with you or even enter a pool if you have one on the go. I found a glitch on Pokerstars last season where they let us parlay on division winners first and second, in correct order. I bet Van/Edm, just Florida, NR/Car, and left out the central. The odds on this seemingly possible in the first week of January before the took it down where something like 1300-1. I only bet 3 because I was playing the field. That payout was the bomb. My first take was the same but had Boston rather than Florida first. I bet 2 tickets one for $20 and 1 for $3, if I recall correctly. The payout would have been 16 000 Canadian. Needless to say Boston burnt me lol. They caught on, this time around and dumped that option for obvious reason BUT still missed a part of the glitch by still allowing parlays on first only per division. So still pretty wicked. So me picking Edmonton,Florida, NJ, and Dallas, is paying right now 85-1. Pretty nice.
@@MikeBartner we think a lot alike, do you got any pools going on for the upcoming season. I'm in one but looking for another solid one. Look at this bloody glitch by Pokerstars last season. I didn't win this ticket but played the field and cashed in. These odds were nuts, I lost this ticket because Boston failed at the end. BUT THE ODDS! 1. Vancouver Canucks; 2. Edmonton Oilers @ 31.00Pacific Division 2023-24 - Top 2 Teams Exact Finish - NHL Pacific Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m. 1. New York Rangers; 2. Carolina Hurricanes @ 12.00Metropolitan Division 2023-24 - Top 2 Teams Exact Finish - NHL Metropolitan Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m. Boston Bruins @ 1.44Atlantic Division 2023-24 - Outright Betting - NHL Atlantic Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m. Stake: US$20.00 Potential Returns: US$10,726.67 No idea why it says March lol, I made this bet before they cut it of in the first week of January, and yes I played the field and had Florida instead of Boston but bet lower yet still pulled in 7.5K. Not bad at all. This season for obvious reasons they are not having betting top 2 per division, BUT still are allowing parlays on 1 per. So at this moment NJ,EDM,Dallas,and Florida placing first per division has a nice payout of 85-1. Still pretty sweet.
@@MikeBartner no good list though, i will say though as a Philly fan who watches a lot of metro games sorokin is too low, I think he’s definitely better than saros, yeah he had a down year this year but he’s gonna bounce back to a .920 again this year
binnington has to be up there, he cost us blues fans top picks last two years behind armclowns D ..but he got us a cup..make no mistake that cup was binnington. ror should sack up and give the conn smyth to its rightful owner
@@MikeBartner two bad seasons in a row at age 28-29 he is the reason toronto made it out of the first round ever since that loss he has not been top 10
@@pipoj5 Bobrovsky had an .899 in the finals this year and people thought he should’ve won the Conn Smythe. If you actually watched the games, you’d know the Maple Leafs just put difficult shots on him. Also 6 games does not make a .915 in a whole season look bad. Otherwise, Hellebuyck just came off an awful season
Jack Campbell snubbed 🙄🙄
Bro doesn't even have Hasek on his list, what a clown
@@fakedeath13bro this is a list of the 2023-2024 season not 1999-2000??
The list is for NHL goalies, so Campbell doesn’t qualify. Otherwise he’s #1 easily
Appreciate the Demko respect at the number 3 spot
lukas dostal at 1?? really???
Do you think a video about the best and worst cap structured team could be possible??
We know who the worst is lol
@@user-pn3gt2ij5eDetroit!
Not a bad idea for a vid
Funny how skinner isn’t on anyone’s list considering the same people say Edmonton has no defence yet went to game 7 of cup final
The Oiler's D isn't as bad as some people think. Not even close. It's actually solid. Nurse takes a beating BUT he isn't a horrible Dman he just has a horrible contract. Skinner isn't a top 10 goalie, but is listed in the top 20. I don't see any reason anybody can argue otherwise if they are actually following the league.
Skinner is not top 10 he plays horrible one night then he’s a like hasek the other he’s not consistent, this is coming from a ranger fan so lol. But I will say skinner is top 15-20 so yea but not top 10
I think kotchetkov could be in the top 10 3-5 years from now
Agreed. He was spectacular last year. One of the Top 10 tendies stats wise last year. I understand not putting him in the top 10 because he is more unproven
May seem odd but Carolina seems to still be looking for an upgrade or a 1A, 1B situation. Andersson/Kotch seems pretty solid, but you can't blame them for being worried about Andersson's injuries.
@@aronbrown9411 i think that kochetkov could be ready to be a 1a this yr. it’d be good to upgrade on anderson tho. not a need
I'm expecting Dustin Wolf of the Flames to eventually get on here, that kid has serious potential
Loved watching demko at bc I knew he was gonna be a stud and Ian Clark is a great goalie coach when hellebuyck maybe starts to slow down I think demko will be the no doubt number 2 goalie in the league. Great video Mike.
Man if Sorokin can get back to that Vezina contending level goaltending and the Isles stay pretty healthy they could go on a 2021 run to the ecf. People underrate Sorokin a lot to be honest. That PP1 looks disgusting with Duclaur Barzal Horvat Nelson Dobson. That was their main weak point. And if Pellech and Pullock returns to the guy we know man this could be an annoying playoff team to play against.
1-Shesterkin
2-Helly
3-Sway
4- Demko
5-Bob
6-Vasy
7-Saros
8-Otter
9-Sorokin
10-Ulmark
Demko slander will not be tolerated
@@ryanburton8695 I put him at 4 😭
Valid Demko placement
Luukonen should be at the top of the 11-20 class.
Mike you should do a top 25 prospects in the NHL
I will!
@@MikeBartner let’s go
I don’t think I’m being biased when I say woll should be in the top 20
UPL will continue to improve
Saros!
Mackenzie Blackwood snubbed
Now do backup goalies please 🙏
I think judging the best goalies RIGHT NOW you have to put more weight on down years from guys like Sorokin and Saros, hence Swayman should probably jump them in the rankings considering he has been good for the entirety of the last 3 seasons and also the momentum he’s carrying off a ridiculously good playoff run.
In my completely unbiased opinion Chucky Lindgren and Logan Thompson should be 1 and 2
Valid
I like the list other than I like a few guys better than Jarry, and some small swaps like Lindgren over Thompson. I'd swap Hill and Daccord around as well.
That's fair
@@MikeBartner Mike I like your podcasts a lot. I agree with you on a lot of things. I'm big in to pools, and was pretty successful last season again. I'd love to compare lists with you or even enter a pool if you have one on the go. I found a glitch on Pokerstars last season where they let us parlay on division winners first and second, in correct order. I bet Van/Edm, just Florida, NR/Car, and left out the central. The odds on this seemingly possible in the first week of January before the took it down where something like 1300-1. I only bet 3 because I was playing the field. That payout was the bomb. My first take was the same but had Boston rather than Florida first. I bet 2 tickets one for $20 and 1 for $3, if I recall correctly. The payout would have been 16 000 Canadian. Needless to say Boston burnt me lol. They caught on, this time around and dumped that option for obvious reason BUT still missed a part of the glitch by still allowing parlays on first only per division. So still pretty wicked. So me picking Edmonton,Florida, NJ, and Dallas, is paying right now 85-1. Pretty nice.
@@MikeBartner we think a lot alike, do you got any pools going on for the upcoming season. I'm in one but looking for another solid one. Look at this bloody glitch by Pokerstars last season. I didn't win this ticket but played the field and cashed in. These odds were nuts, I lost this ticket because Boston failed at the end. BUT THE ODDS!
1. Vancouver Canucks; 2. Edmonton Oilers @ 31.00Pacific Division 2023-24 - Top 2 Teams Exact Finish - NHL Pacific Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m.
1. New York Rangers; 2. Carolina Hurricanes @ 12.00Metropolitan Division 2023-24 - Top 2 Teams Exact Finish - NHL Metropolitan Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m.
Boston Bruins @ 1.44Atlantic Division 2023-24 - Outright Betting - NHL Atlantic Division 2023-24Friday, March 01, 2024 at 3:30 p.m.
Stake:
US$20.00
Potential Returns:
US$10,726.67
No idea why it says March lol, I made this bet before they cut it of in the first week of January, and yes I played the field and had Florida instead of Boston but bet lower yet still pulled in 7.5K. Not bad at all. This season for obvious reasons they are not having betting top 2 per division, BUT still are allowing parlays on 1 per. So at this moment NJ,EDM,Dallas,and Florida placing first per division has a nice payout of 85-1. Still pretty sweet.
Mackenzie Blackwood was snubbed (joking, hes not close but theres been a lot of slander lately saying sharks have bad goaltending)
First comment. Haven’t watched it yet but you’re obviously wrong
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@@MikeBartner no good list though, i will say though as a Philly fan who watches a lot of metro games sorokin is too low, I think he’s definitely better than saros, yeah he had a down year this year but he’s gonna bounce back to a .920 again this year
I thought he was going 10-1 and said Igor and Helly were 10 and 9, I was like wtf 😂
LMFAOOOOOO
binnington has to be up there, he cost us blues fans top picks last two years behind armclowns D ..but he got us a cup..make no mistake that cup was binnington. ror should sack up and give the conn smyth to its rightful owner
As a blues fan he’s 10-12
1- Igor Shesterkin
2- Sergei Bobrovsky
3- Andrei Vasilevskiy
4- Connor Hellebuyck
5- Linus Ullmark
6- Thatcher Demko
7- Jeremy Swayman
8- Ilya Sorokin
9- Jacob Markstrom
10- Fredrik Anderson
11- Juuse Saros
12- Adin Hill
13- Jake Oettinger
14- Connor Ingram
15- Joey Daccord
16- Tristan Jarry
17- Jordan Binnington
18- Alexandar Georgiev
19- Lukas Dostal
20- Samuel Ersson
W list. If Ingram was on any other team he’d get way more recognition.
Ulmark over Swayman??
Way too last season biased saros and otty are def top 10
Skinner?
Saros outside the top 10 is madness
Absolute disrespect to Ingram he needs to be in top 20
Agree, very underrated, could bag 30+ W this coming campaign
Was kinda surprised not to see Jack Campbell on the list
Shesterkin
Vasilevskiy
Hellebuyck
Bobrovsky
Saros
Demko
Swayman
Ullmark
Sorokin
Oettinger
sorokin is better than ullmark and it’s debatable with swayman
Skinner too high fr, should swap with UPL’s spot or anyone else’s lol
Based on what?
UPL had a solid 3 months but I gotta see more
I can believe he didn’t have Jim Carey on this list!!! What a bum😡
Wat the sigma
Igor. Neeeexxxt
Bobrovsky disrespect wtf
Fair list.
Russians pretty solid in net.
In Russia: The best goalkeeper school right now? Yes?
Carter Hart at 1?
Demko is the best goalie in the nhl
Delusional biased Canucks fan take, Igor is far and beyond the best goalie, its not close
@@EemMiIiLlLl bro if demko didn’t get injured during the end of the season he would’ve won the vezina
Vasilevski is not even top 10 anymore
Recency bias after a bad season
@@MikeBartner two bad seasons in a row at age 28-29 he is the reason toronto made it out of the first round ever since that loss he has not been top 10
@@pipoj5.915 is bad now???
@@bodhithomas5684 87.50 in the playoffs is pretty bad
@@pipoj5 Bobrovsky had an .899 in the finals this year and people thought he should’ve won the Conn Smythe. If you actually watched the games, you’d know the Maple Leafs just put difficult shots on him. Also 6 games does not make a .915 in a whole season look bad. Otherwise, Hellebuyck just came off an awful season
Skinner being 13 is embarrassing. Worst goalie list I have ever seen.
Funny because he went to cup final, what was his overall performance in playoffs?????
worst list ever LOL, just because you don't like Skinner. Have another drink.
Where is the dynamic Sens duo😢?