go to a vegas pod then im a hawks fan they barely ever talk about them but i dont expect them to. this is basically a leafs pod i just watch for dangle
@@chelcentral6610 25 as in “he’s reached his ceiling” or 25 as in “he still has room to grow?” I agree with the latter, I think Liljegren still has another gear. But the way the guys talk about him you wouldn’t believe they thought he could take another step.
Let's talk about winners and losers but only one team per person so we can save time WE GOTTA MOVE FAST ALL THE TIME GUYS WE CAN'T STOP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION FOR LONGER THAN 3 MINUTES GUYS MOVE IT MOVE IT I STILL WORK IN RADIO
Tweener Winner - Columbus Blue Jackets. Added a top-6 forward at roughly $5x5y to help Fantilli develop and carry the load. Our biggest win was no re-signing a few guys who had to go. Waddell is likely to add a defender, but it’s unknown as to who. Fire the cannon!
Adam's take on the Penguins is harsh and feels like the live version of Leaf trolls in the comment sections of Penguins' spaces all year. Dubas has literally nothing to work with in Pittsburgh. There were no picks, no prospects, and an aging core with NMCs, and tons of bad contracts. He made the Karlsson trade to get ride of a ton of those unmoveabke bad contracts and give the team a "prove it" year. It didnt work. Now, he is being smart and taking his foot off the gas to collect picks and prospects so that can replenish the system and have trade chips. Read Josh Yohe's fantastic article in the Athletic for context. I'm really done with Leaf fans taking out their frustrations on us this year. Our aging core has three cups. They have nothing to prove. When you sell the farm to get three cups, it has to be rebuilt.
It’s getting really annoying. You can tell they’re low key mad that he was fired. Adam’s like that ex that’s happy you’re not doing well immediately but is pissed when in 3 years they’ve gone on to better things (usher in the next Crosby with Crosby)
Cmon bois I always agree with 95% of your takes outside of Pittsburgh!! What did you expect dubas to do Adam?? His very first press conference he said his job is going to be to surround the core legends that are here while also restocking the cupboards.. that’s exactly what he’s done so far!! Did you watch Reilly smith last year game in game out on the penguins? He was invisible for 3/4 the season.. the fact we actually gained in draft capital while only retaining 1.15 is a miracle.. dude was trash the back 3/4 of the year. We got a 2nd rounder just for taking on Kevin Hayes who is an immediate upgrade to our bottom 6, given Carter/eller would play there before and Hayes had double the points of Carter and is 7 years younger!! Also penguins signed Shea to league min and Blake loss eye to a 2 year deal who is apparently one of the premium 4th line center in the league!! And not even to mention Aho, bealloeve (who killed the pens mind you when he played us) like what more do you want dubas to do? He is trying to help the core while gaining capital and younger players. And no Steve no one is getting traded never!! Edit: (at least not Sid Geno or tanger) everyone else is fair game
Jesse saying it doesn't make sense for any team to acquire Jacob Trouba when he's not good enough for the Rangers, but somehow he's one of those who think other teams will call to acquire players who aren't good enough for the Leafs
Tampa Bay has been in the league for 32 years, 3 number 1's. Edmonton has been in the league for 45 years, 4 number 1's. The Nordiques/Avalanche 45 years, 4 number 1's. The Ottawa Senators 32 years ago, 3 number 1's. Other teams have been in the leagues for several decades and never even had 1 first overall pick.
I would just like to point out (in the conversation about Jack Campbell in Detroit) that Grand Rapids is really not near Detroit. Like it's closer than Edmonton, but it's not like they're neighbours.
1:02:00 Calvin Hobbes: "Anaheim is the biggest loser, they've signed nobody" I 100% agree. They are still below the salary floor and there are very few prime free agents left to sign.
Remember all those times that Adam said when signing players that an overpay by a few hundred thousand doesn't mean much? Maybe it is needed to get every penny out of every deal.
Adam complaining about tampering is cute. It bothers him a lot when a Leaf gets poached but not a word when OEL or Stolarz were linked to The Leafs long before the 1st and Tanev was linked to them also long before they traded for his rights.
JT and Marner in the playoffs. same story. doesn't matter what 1-3 million pieces you put behind them. D is better? yes and they could get us a round win? yup. conference final? not without the core kicking ass
“Jacob trouba does not make sense at 8 million for detroit” agreed jesse but as adam points out it would have been 5.5 million with a sweetener going to detroit (people alleging the rangers would have taken back holl).
It kind of felt like Jesse was going out of his way to dump on them, lol. "The Kane signing doesn't count since it happened last night, but I am going to take a second to talk about the Walman trade."
I wish they'd just stop mentioning the Red Wings bc they're so weird about it every time. Starting the show by praising Treliving for saying "it's better to have too many than not enough", and then five minutes later suddenly its "man, what is Yzerman dooooing???" bc he signed multiple cheap options for goalie depth.
To be fair to Robertson, he has scored playoff goals, they’ve just been called back... He would have tied for the lead in goals this playoffs for the leafs 🤷♂️
I think u forget bolts also got a really young prospect thats really good in geekie and amd decent top 4 d in moser who plays both LD/RD for sergachev who was gonna have a full no trade makeing 8.5 as a 3rd ld, his defensive game has fallen a bit and this trsde helps bolts more going forward habing that money, if geekie dont pan out its not good for bolts but if geekie turns out to be a solid top 2 c this deal looks great for bolts
Interesting that the Pierre Luc Dubois trade, who is on his 4th team, was praised by Adam but the Anthony Beauvillier signing, who will be on his 5th team, was trashed. A one year contract for 1.25 million vs a contract that runs out in 2031 for 8.5 million dollars. But Beauvillier being on his nth team means he’s bad. Pierre Luc Dubois being on his nth team means hes the next Nick Backstrom. But I think we all know why Adam doesn’t like the Penguins.
Adam has no idea what he is talking about. He only looks at the near future. He's a typical soy boy just a person who needs to be coddled. Complete lesser human
This Nashville signing is giving me Johansson, and Duchene vibes. Big contract, with a high possibility of drop off. Hope im wrong when it comes to Stamer.
You say you can't believe the push back but you can't expect everyone to think the exact same thing as you. Some people love marner and don't think trading him would make it better. That's just there opinion
Without a team structure like what the Panthers have, OEL will revert back to his Bruce Boudreau Canucks form. Hes only good within the structure of a defensive system. And unless the leadership of the Leafs buy in to a team defensive structured system they are doomed to fail.
I love Chris Tanev, but he's an injury prone guy who plays a hard style where his fall off could be sudden and quick. Also, Matt Murray being Toronto's 3rd goalie is too close to #1 for me.
24/25 lineup : Skinner McDavid Hyman Holloway Draisaitl Arvidsson McLeod RNH Brown Kane Henrique Janmark Ekholm Bouchard Nurse Broberg Kulak Ceci/Stetcher That's the best roster going into this season.
Yah, I mean I still think the defense sucks outside of the first pair and Skinner is very mid in net but admittedly that's probably the best forward group I've ever seen Edmonton have in the McDavid era. They actually have good depth
@@RockyMountain-cg4zvskinner is just fine he’s only gonna get better goalies get better with age he’s 25 and they don’t need to have the best defence in the nhl if they can be like last year with a better offence that’s dangerous
Factually Skinner is well above "mid" and he proved that in the playoffs, remember, he was a rookie year before last. Also, second pair?? Did you watch the playoffs round 3 and 4? Their top prospect Philip Broberg in an absolute game changed and a beast top 4 defenseman. He completely fixes the Ceci problem with Nurse on the 2nd pair. Plus Kulak on the 3rd paring is depth
I dont know if that all fits. We are -2.5 Mil with Broberg and Holloway to sign still. I would not be surprised if one of or a combination of Ryan, Kane and Ceci are traded.
Washington is still over the cap, even with LTIR. They will need to give up assets to get under the cap and I don't think they make the playoff this year.
Still advertising for BetterHelp even though they sell customers private data huh? I know times are tough and a small business needs to take money where it can get it, but I would hope you would reevaluate how much you need that cash.....
"i want to trade our franchises best ever winger to be different". ok, are we getting rantanen? not sure colorado's lookin to move em...are we getting pastrpuss? no? panarin? maybe you've convinced yourself kaprizov if a playoff gawd. BRADEN TKACHUK YOU SAY? don't know if ottawa is looking to make that move. buehler? buehler?
I don’t think to just be different they should trade him because they haven’t won. Also you are trading an excellent piece that should get you something that you need. Trading marner doesn’t just get you a third line player and a 5th round pick. They would hopefully get something great for him but who really knows until something happens. 🎉
No mention of Edmonton singing both Viktor Arvidsson AND Jeff Skinner?? ..they also signed Connor Brown for 1 million LMAO did you see how good he was once that knee is 100% again late season and playoffs??? So, the Oilers just massively upgraded Warren Foegles spot and added a point per game 30-40 goal guy for 3 million bucks 🤣🤣🤣
How kind of you to use a Leafs example of mismanagement to justify your Red Wings take🙄 Seriously… am I the only person who understands what Stevie is doing this offseason? Kane gets his bump. They move on from Walman and Ghost whilst picking up Gustafsson for cheaper and adding a potential roster spot for any of the young defenseman in the system. The big moves are yet to happen. Your big Wings moves this offseason are re-signing Raymond and Seider, those two are about to make a ton of money. And hey if they don’t make a ton, I guarantee Stevie isn’t done. Veleno is still unsigned as well as Berggren (who is also disgruntled about play time so maybe a swap for Robertson👀, just a thought). You mention earlier in the episode that teams need to get better or more comfortable with putting trust in younger players they’ve developed and god forbid that Yzerman is now going to give those guy’s opportunity. Expect Edvinsson to get more time on the blue line as well as the potential for Albert Johansson. And there is a gaggle of forwards they could bring up; Berggren, Soderblom, Mazur, Danielson, Kasper, Lombardi. Yzerman is a draft and develop GM. Look at his history. He just had better blocks at the starting point in Tampa. (Also the imagery you gave of Seider and Trouba on Detroit just running over fools just got me kinda jacked. Bring another Michigan boy home). I didn’t even mention the goalies yet. Husso was both bad and hurt most of last year and has one year left, Lyon was fine and had one year left, Campbell is a cheap number for a guy who ended his year in the minors because of performance issues so hopefully he can regain some of his form in his home state and if not it’s a nothing burger, and Talbot is a vet who has a track record of playing more games in a season than either of those other three goalies mentioned and because he has two years has the potential to be a good veteran for one of the young net minders next season. Honestly man you can’t have enough goalies with NHL experience and you may as well have a ton when you’re waiting on your young dudes to get to the show.
The player that would be the perfect fit for the leafs but they dont have the assets to aquire him would be Matheson from Montreal , puck moving d on a bargain contract . But what could the leafs offer montreal? Nies a 1st and more
I'm sorry, but I think you guys lost all perspective when it comes to contract value. And I'm not saying that to be an ass. I just don't understand how you guys can be happy about those contracts, from the outside. I understand Woll came in as somekind of savior in the playoffs...but that's still a $3.5m+ contract on an injury prone goaltender with 39 NHL games under his belt ! OEL at $3.5m for 4 years ? 6-years of Tanev at 34 ? Those sound like Giordano/Brodie 2.0, when they first came in, but even worse to me. The best value contract Toronto signed is Hakanpaa, by a landslide. That's money well spent, and on a very friendly duration. But those other contracts...yuk! None of those seem like good investment to me.
@@ohmyjlord Woll is a bet. If he can stay healthy (IF!), he's an in house asset with a very high ceiling and plenty of years left. Stolarz comes in as a tandem style setup to hopefully lighten the load and reduce chances of injury. By the time it kicks in, Tavares won't be eating such a massive part of the cap, maybe isn't even a leaf, and the cap will have risen. And if he gets hurt, the cap hit is negated. Plus you have Hildeby developing as a future asset if Woll crashes and burns. The concern witj Woll is only his health, not his ability. The Tanev deal is betting on the opposite. Basically betting he'll be good for 3, maybe 4 years before his body gives out and he gets off the books, and again the cap won't be as suffocating then. Liljegren is the odd duck in my eyes. Bizarre contract betting on a guy who really hasnt proven anything.
@@CC-pj7iy But we're still talking about a 25-year old goalie, with a pretty extensive injury history, who has 39 NHL games. That's not worth $3.6m, on any team. Look at Justus Annunen in Colorado...extended in March for less than a $1.0m, posting a .928 SV% and 2.25 GAA. Look at Brossoit's contract, with MUCH MORE experience and track record. Look at a veteran like Varlamov, making $2.75m. Hell, Cayden Primeau posted similar kind of numbers (GAA and SV%) as Woll last year, and I can garantee you his next contract won't be anywhere near de $3.0m mark. I understand he had a great 7-games stretch in 2022-23 and came up big for you guys during the playoffs...but that's still a lot of money to gamble on someone with such a little track record and injury concerns.
Those contracts remind me of the Brian Benning days coming from a Canucks fan. Just pure desperation. Without a structured system the Leafs signings won't age well at all. OEL thrived under a structured defensive system with the Panthers, unless the leadership on this team is willing to buy in to a team defence oriented system they're doomed to fail.
AMAZING first day for the Leafs and Treliving! Our d-core and goaltending looks much better than last year. However... we still need to trade Robertson, Liljegren, and MARNERRRR.
Tanev is basically just Brodie from 2 years ago, Stolarz is basically older Sammy. Keep in mind Stolarz had a .925 season as a backup following an .890 year, which is comparable go Sammy having a .919 as a split-starter which came after an .890 year. OEL is an improvement over Boosh/Edmundson/Klingberg (we hope) but it is an exaggeration to say they're definitely better. Also, trade Liljegren? The team needs guys who can move the puck, trading him is silly.
The Yzerman slander is Brutal. We don't need big names. We have prospects coming quickly and in numbers. We were down to 1 goalie at the end of last season. Cheap goalie depth is fantastic. Trouba would be a terrible addition. I don't disagree there. As for signing big names we don't need to. We have defensive, forward and goalie depth coming up. We just need holes filled for now.
Everyone wants Marner to go, which i agree with, but why isn't there any hate on Tavares? That's the worst contract on the team. Best thing that could happen is he blows his knee out over the summer and gets put on LTIR all season.
Have to agree about pens. What are you? I love sid and the guys. But these guys won't win again. Not in Pittsburgh at least. The retool they have tried have not worked.
Brad A++++. This is a building year. Leafs upgraded defense. Next year they can up grade the forwards. Leafs are finally heading in the right direction after the Dubas disaster. Durzi instead of Morgan would have been rhe way to go.
They signed a 34 year old 2nd/3rd pair guy until he's 40 lol definitely not A+ especially from his boss's perspective if he has to pay this dude for the last 4 years of his contract to not play for the team.
Trouba was NOT a July 1st signing by Rangers. He was traded in June.These 3 guys make more mistakes per show than a team of dyslexic spelling bee participants....😖
Can Steve get more negative, I’ve been unsubscribed and coming back a few times hopeful that the vitriol would be at least toned down a bit, but nope, this is just to much, i’m sorry to say I’m out. Good luck
Adam is the king of repeating slightly false information loudly and boldly
Connor Geekie is the younger brother that got traded to the lightning. Morgan Geekie is the one on Boston 😆
I'd love to see you guys do one live podcast like this each week, allowing for live questions and discussion with the viewers :)
I don't mind watching Sid, Geno and Tanger play out their careers, then go into a rebuild. You wouldn't get it. It's a 3 time cup-winning team thing.
NGL kinda sad that you were like "oh we are gonna talk about Vegas" then proceed to not talk about Vegas the rest of the video.
nothing to talk about lil bro
go to a vegas pod then im a hawks fan they barely ever talk about them but i dont expect them to. this is basically a leafs pod i just watch for dangle
*Trashes Liljegren for 5 Minutes* "Oh but btw I don't think he's reached his ceiling."
????
Bro he’s 25
@@chelcentral6610 25 as in “he’s reached his ceiling” or 25 as in “he still has room to grow?” I agree with the latter, I think Liljegren still has another gear. But the way the guys talk about him you wouldn’t believe they thought he could take another step.
@@liltiger3he needs to prove in the next 2 seasons
They're so weird about him. It's like he ran over each of their dogs consecutively while laughing.
Love Adam shouting out the moves the Caps made. Excited to see how they play next year!
“Connor is on Boston” the confidence in being wrong cracked me up lol.. bruins have Morgan
Fun episodes wish I would have been able to watch it live!
Always going to be thankful for SDPN for introducing me to Aberdeen, such a banger of a tune to start the stream off with.
Let’s do a free agency recap but talk about a marner trade for 20 minutes!😂
Centre of the hockey universe.
Let's talk about winners and losers but only one team per person so we can save time WE GOTTA MOVE FAST ALL THE TIME GUYS WE CAN'T STOP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION FOR LONGER THAN 3 MINUTES GUYS MOVE IT MOVE IT I STILL WORK IN RADIO
53:00 wasn’t lecavalier in the 90’s a first overall pick Adam
Yah, they also drafted Hamrlik first overall. So they have 3 lol
Yeah
1st overall in 1998 by the Lightning and called “the Michael Jordan of hockey." by their owner at the time Art Williams.
Tweener Winner - Columbus Blue Jackets. Added a top-6 forward at roughly $5x5y to help Fantilli develop and carry the load. Our biggest win was no re-signing a few guys who had to go. Waddell is likely to add a defender, but it’s unknown as to who.
Fire the cannon!
Adam's take on the Penguins is harsh and feels like the live version of Leaf trolls in the comment sections of Penguins' spaces all year. Dubas has literally nothing to work with in Pittsburgh. There were no picks, no prospects, and an aging core with NMCs, and tons of bad contracts. He made the Karlsson trade to get ride of a ton of those unmoveabke bad contracts and give the team a "prove it" year. It didnt work. Now, he is being smart and taking his foot off the gas to collect picks and prospects so that can replenish the system and have trade chips. Read Josh Yohe's fantastic article in the Athletic for context. I'm really done with Leaf fans taking out their frustrations on us this year. Our aging core has three cups. They have nothing to prove. When you sell the farm to get three cups, it has to be rebuilt.
Thanks for saying the quiet part. Not a Pens fan but pretty tired of Leafs fans projecting their half-ass takes
it's just projection. Or as the kids say, they're coping and seething.
They got super salty about Dubas signing with Pittsburgh and it's clear every time they mention him or the team.
It’s getting really annoying. You can tell they’re low key mad that he was fired. Adam’s like that ex that’s happy you’re not doing well immediately but is pissed when in 3 years they’ve gone on to better things (usher in the next Crosby with Crosby)
Cmon bois I always agree with 95% of your takes outside of Pittsburgh!! What did you expect dubas to do Adam??
His very first press conference he said his job is going to be to surround the core legends that are here while also restocking the cupboards.. that’s exactly what he’s done so far!! Did you watch Reilly smith last year game in game out on the penguins? He was invisible for 3/4 the season.. the fact we actually gained in draft capital while only retaining 1.15 is a miracle.. dude was trash the back 3/4 of the year. We got a 2nd rounder just for taking on Kevin Hayes who is an immediate upgrade to our bottom 6, given Carter/eller would play there before and Hayes had double the points of Carter and is 7 years younger!!
Also penguins signed Shea to league min and Blake loss eye to a 2 year deal who is apparently one of the premium 4th line center in the league!!
And not even to mention Aho, bealloeve (who killed the pens mind you when he played us) like what more do you want dubas to do? He is trying to help the core while gaining capital and younger players. And no Steve no one is getting traded never!!
Edit: (at least not Sid Geno or tanger) everyone else is fair game
Watched afterwards and didn't know going in that they didn't know about the skinner signing let alone henrique
They hate the oilers not surprising
1:40:56 jumpscare warning 🤣🤣
1:41:05 Steve & Adam talking about Hawk Tuah girl 😳😳 🤣🤣
Jesse saying it doesn't make sense for any team to acquire Jacob Trouba when he's not good enough for the Rangers, but somehow he's one of those who think other teams will call to acquire players who aren't good enough for the Leafs
How nervous our you about the injuries of Tanev? Great to see another Domi in Toronto.
Likely why the Leafs have 7 NHL defenders , likely there will be alot of alternating until an Injury happens
Agree about Dallas. I think Nill really thought Tanev was coming back then scrambled for bodies.
Hey guys, just a heads up, I never got a notification that you were live today. Not sure if it only went out to VIPs. Just wanted to let you know.
Y'all should record these alternatively, upload that, and delete the laggy stream VOD
Tampa Bay has been in the league for 32 years, 3 number 1's. Edmonton has been in the league for 45 years, 4 number 1's. The Nordiques/Avalanche 45 years, 4 number 1's. The Ottawa Senators 32 years ago, 3 number 1's. Other teams have been in the leagues for several decades and never even had 1 first overall pick.
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I would just like to point out (in the conversation about Jack Campbell in Detroit) that Grand Rapids is really not near Detroit. Like it's closer than Edmonton, but it's not like they're neighbours.
Caps are going to hold LTIR for Backstrom and Oshie That may put them under the cap though ~ PLD is going to be a huge question mark
1:02:00 Calvin Hobbes: "Anaheim is the biggest loser, they've signed nobody"
I 100% agree. They are still below the salary floor and there are very few prime free agents left to sign.
Remember all those times that Adam said when signing players that an overpay by a few hundred thousand doesn't mean much? Maybe it is needed to get every penny out of every deal.
Canucks offered a $5M AAV to Zadorov, the same he signed for with the Bruins. Issue was term, Canucks weren’t willing to do 6 years.
This.
@@brizzchizz7302 and you probably pay less tax in massachussetts
As a Canucks fan, I was glad we didn't spend $5 million on him. He wasn't even earning his contract during the regular season last year.
Adam complaining about tampering is cute. It bothers him a lot when a Leaf gets poached but not a word when OEL or Stolarz were linked to The Leafs long before the 1st and Tanev was linked to them also long before they traded for his rights.
JT and Marner in the playoffs.
same story.
doesn't matter what 1-3 million pieces you put behind them.
D is better? yes and they could get us a round win? yup. conference final? not without the core kicking ass
Hey guys, who did you have covering stuff for Montreal? Was looking to see all of what they have been doing
Basu and Godin. The habs didn't really do anything other than trading Kovacevic and signing Slaf
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“Jacob trouba does not make sense at 8 million for detroit” agreed jesse but as adam points out it would have been 5.5 million with a sweetener going to detroit (people alleging the rangers would have taken back holl).
It kind of felt like Jesse was going out of his way to dump on them, lol. "The Kane signing doesn't count since it happened last night, but I am going to take a second to talk about the Walman trade."
I wish they'd just stop mentioning the Red Wings bc they're so weird about it every time. Starting the show by praising Treliving for saying "it's better to have too many than not enough", and then five minutes later suddenly its "man, what is Yzerman dooooing???" bc he signed multiple cheap options for goalie depth.
To be fair to Robertson, he has scored playoff goals, they’ve just been called back... He would have tied for the lead in goals this playoffs for the leafs 🤷♂️
where's that's oilers video that supposedly exists ?
Do they talk about Duclair?
56.48
I think u forget bolts also got a really young prospect thats really good in geekie and amd decent top 4 d in moser who plays both LD/RD for sergachev who was gonna have a full no trade makeing 8.5 as a 3rd ld, his defensive game has fallen a bit and this trsde helps bolts more going forward habing that money, if geekie dont pan out its not good for bolts but if geekie turns out to be a solid top 2 c this deal looks great for bolts
Interesting that the Pierre Luc Dubois trade, who is on his 4th team, was praised by Adam but the Anthony Beauvillier signing, who will be on his 5th team, was trashed. A one year contract for 1.25 million vs a contract that runs out in 2031 for 8.5 million dollars. But Beauvillier being on his nth team means he’s bad. Pierre Luc Dubois being on his nth team means hes the next Nick Backstrom. But I think we all know why Adam doesn’t like the Penguins.
Adam has no idea what he is talking about. He only looks at the near future. He's a typical soy boy just a person who needs to be coddled. Complete lesser human
Man, pretty dissapointed with that day.
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Not that it matters but Stamkos was not the 1st ever #1 OA pick by the Lightning, Flyers legend Vincent Lecavalier was
Roman Hamerlik was.
This Nashville signing is giving me Johansson, and Duchene vibes. Big contract, with a high possibility of drop off. Hope im wrong when it comes to Stamer.
Fuller
You say you can't believe the push back but you can't expect everyone to think the exact same thing as you. Some people love marner and don't think trading him would make it better. That's just there opinion
anyone know if theyre doing a day 2 stream?
Do they talk about the Bowman/Quenneville reinstatements on this pod?
Nope
That'll probably be on the next regular show. And I'm excited to hear the drama
Since 2013 the Leafs and Red Wings have the same amount of playoffs series wins.
The Red Wings haven't made the playoffs since 2016. 😂
I love bert
Bert da goat
Without a team structure like what the Panthers have, OEL will revert back to his Bruce Boudreau Canucks form. Hes only good within the structure of a defensive system. And unless the leadership of the Leafs buy in to a team defensive structured system they are doomed to fail.
I really wish the wild had an extra few bucks to get Laine
No you don’t trust me
I love Chris Tanev, but he's an injury prone guy who plays a hard style where his fall off could be sudden and quick. Also, Matt Murray being Toronto's 3rd goalie is too close to #1 for me.
ME AND THE ENTIRE CANUCKS ARE GLAD BOSTON TOOK OUR GARBAGE ELIS IS USELESS AS THEY WILL SEE LOVE ZADOROV EVEN KNOW HES A GREEDY PLAYER
Marner for Crosby?
I feel like we need be able to add community notes to Adams comments. Its hard to be more wrong and uninformed than him
24/25 lineup :
Skinner McDavid Hyman
Holloway Draisaitl Arvidsson
McLeod RNH Brown
Kane Henrique Janmark
Ekholm Bouchard
Nurse Broberg
Kulak Ceci/Stetcher
That's the best roster going into this season.
Yah, I mean I still think the defense sucks outside of the first pair and Skinner is very mid in net but admittedly that's probably the best forward group I've ever seen Edmonton have in the McDavid era. They actually have good depth
@@RockyMountain-cg4zvskinner is just fine he’s only gonna get better goalies get better with age he’s 25 and they don’t need to have the best defence in the nhl if they can be like last year with a better offence that’s dangerous
Factually Skinner is well above "mid" and he proved that in the playoffs, remember, he was a rookie year before last. Also, second pair?? Did you watch the playoffs round 3 and 4? Their top prospect Philip Broberg in an absolute game changed and a beast top 4 defenseman. He completely fixes the Ceci problem with Nurse on the 2nd pair. Plus Kulak on the 3rd paring is depth
I dont know if that all fits. We are -2.5 Mil with Broberg and Holloway to sign still. I would not be surprised if one of or a combination of Ryan, Kane and Ceci are traded.
Also gotta keep the trio of Brown Janmark and Henrique together.
Red Wings will make the playoffs either this year or next year
Bert
Washington is still over the cap, even with LTIR. They will need to give up assets to get under the cap and I don't think they make the playoff this year.
the trade leafs can make but they wont jg and lee from islanders the money works the players fit problem is its not sexy
Adam is a Dubas hater omg 😭💀
100% mortal enemies
After being his biggest fan right up until he left.
Alright but what girl made 80,000 off of what video?
Still advertising for BetterHelp even though they sell customers private data huh? I know times are tough and a small business needs to take money where it can get it, but I would hope you would reevaluate how much you need that cash.....
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What. Is. Beeeeeeping 😖
"i want to trade our franchises best ever winger to be different". ok, are we getting rantanen? not sure colorado's lookin to move em...are we getting pastrpuss? no? panarin? maybe you've convinced yourself kaprizov if a playoff gawd. BRADEN TKACHUK YOU SAY? don't know if ottawa is looking to make that move. buehler? buehler?
11 goals in almost 60 playoff games
I don’t think to just be different they should trade him because they haven’t won. Also you are trading an excellent piece that should get you something that you need. Trading marner doesn’t just get you a third line player and a 5th round pick. They would hopefully get something great for him but who really knows until something happens. 🎉
No mention of Edmonton singing both Viktor Arvidsson AND Jeff Skinner?? ..they also signed Connor Brown for 1 million LMAO did you see how good he was once that knee is 100% again late season and playoffs??? So, the Oilers just massively upgraded Warren Foegles spot and added a point per game 30-40 goal guy for 3 million bucks 🤣🤣🤣
We did an entire video on it man. Holy moly.
@@sdpncan u tell me what time it is pls
Loll they allll suck
They won't, the video doesn't exist
You did an entire video? Lol where is it? Try searching SDPN Edmonton Oilers... I did.... And nothing of the sort is on RUclips.
How kind of you to use a Leafs example of mismanagement to justify your Red Wings take🙄 Seriously… am I the only person who understands what Stevie is doing this offseason? Kane gets his bump. They move on from Walman and Ghost whilst picking up Gustafsson for cheaper and adding a potential roster spot for any of the young defenseman in the system. The big moves are yet to happen. Your big Wings moves this offseason are re-signing Raymond and Seider, those two are about to make a ton of money. And hey if they don’t make a ton, I guarantee Stevie isn’t done. Veleno is still unsigned as well as Berggren (who is also disgruntled about play time so maybe a swap for Robertson👀, just a thought). You mention earlier in the episode that teams need to get better or more comfortable with putting trust in younger players they’ve developed and god forbid that Yzerman is now going to give those guy’s opportunity. Expect Edvinsson to get more time on the blue line as well as the potential for Albert Johansson. And there is a gaggle of forwards they could bring up; Berggren, Soderblom, Mazur, Danielson, Kasper, Lombardi. Yzerman is a draft and develop GM. Look at his history. He just had better blocks at the starting point in Tampa. (Also the imagery you gave of Seider and Trouba on Detroit just running over fools just got me kinda jacked. Bring another Michigan boy home). I didn’t even mention the goalies yet. Husso was both bad and hurt most of last year and has one year left, Lyon was fine and had one year left, Campbell is a cheap number for a guy who ended his year in the minors because of performance issues so hopefully he can regain some of his form in his home state and if not it’s a nothing burger, and Talbot is a vet who has a track record of playing more games in a season than either of those other three goalies mentioned and because he has two years has the potential to be a good veteran for one of the young net minders next season. Honestly man you can’t have enough goalies with NHL experience and you may as well have a ton when you’re waiting on your young dudes to get to the show.
The player that would be the perfect fit for the leafs but they dont have the assets to aquire him would be Matheson from Montreal , puck moving d on a bargain contract . But what could the leafs offer montreal? Nies a 1st and more
I'm sorry, but I think you guys lost all perspective when it comes to contract value. And I'm not saying that to be an ass. I just don't understand how you guys can be happy about those contracts, from the outside. I understand Woll came in as somekind of savior in the playoffs...but that's still a $3.5m+ contract on an injury prone goaltender with 39 NHL games under his belt ! OEL at $3.5m for 4 years ? 6-years of Tanev at 34 ? Those sound like Giordano/Brodie 2.0, when they first came in, but even worse to me. The best value contract Toronto signed is Hakanpaa, by a landslide. That's money well spent, and on a very friendly duration. But those other contracts...yuk! None of those seem like good investment to me.
@@ohmyjlord Woll is a bet. If he can stay healthy (IF!), he's an in house asset with a very high ceiling and plenty of years left. Stolarz comes in as a tandem style setup to hopefully lighten the load and reduce chances of injury. By the time it kicks in, Tavares won't be eating such a massive part of the cap, maybe isn't even a leaf, and the cap will have risen. And if he gets hurt, the cap hit is negated. Plus you have Hildeby developing as a future asset if Woll crashes and burns. The concern witj Woll is only his health, not his ability. The Tanev deal is betting on the opposite. Basically betting he'll be good for 3, maybe 4 years before his body gives out and he gets off the books, and again the cap won't be as suffocating then. Liljegren is the odd duck in my eyes. Bizarre contract betting on a guy who really hasnt proven anything.
@@CC-pj7iy But we're still talking about a 25-year old goalie, with a pretty extensive injury history, who has 39 NHL games. That's not worth $3.6m, on any team. Look at Justus Annunen in Colorado...extended in March for less than a $1.0m, posting a .928 SV% and 2.25 GAA. Look at Brossoit's contract, with MUCH MORE experience and track record. Look at a veteran like Varlamov, making $2.75m. Hell, Cayden Primeau posted similar kind of numbers (GAA and SV%) as Woll last year, and I can garantee you his next contract won't be anywhere near de $3.0m mark. I understand he had a great 7-games stretch in 2022-23 and came up big for you guys during the playoffs...but that's still a lot of money to gamble on someone with such a little track record and injury concerns.
Those contracts remind me of the Brian Benning days coming from a Canucks fan. Just pure desperation. Without a structured system the Leafs signings won't age well at all. OEL thrived under a structured defensive system with the Panthers, unless the leadership on this team is willing to buy in to a team defence oriented system they're doomed to fail.
AMAZING first day for the Leafs and Treliving! Our d-core and goaltending looks much better than last year. However... we still need to trade Robertson, Liljegren, and MARNERRRR.
Tanev is basically just Brodie from 2 years ago, Stolarz is basically older Sammy. Keep in mind Stolarz had a .925 season as a backup following an .890 year, which is comparable go Sammy having a .919 as a split-starter which came after an .890 year.
OEL is an improvement over Boosh/Edmundson/Klingberg (we hope) but it is an exaggeration to say they're definitely better.
Also, trade Liljegren? The team needs guys who can move the puck, trading him is silly.
@@michealfleury1226I disagree about OEL, I think all the numbers point to him being worse than Edmundson at pretty much everything.
The Yzerman slander is Brutal. We don't need big names. We have prospects coming quickly and in numbers. We were down to 1 goalie at the end of last season. Cheap goalie depth is fantastic. Trouba would be a terrible addition. I don't disagree there. As for signing big names we don't need to. We have defensive, forward and goalie depth coming up. We just need holes filled for now.
Everyone wants Marner to go, which i agree with, but why isn't there any hate on Tavares? That's the worst contract on the team. Best thing that could happen is he blows his knee out over the summer and gets put on LTIR all season.
That contract sunk the team you nailed it
They should have invested in their young guns they drafted. Tavares was always the problem I agree, good captain but not for the leafs imo.
Have to agree about pens. What are you? I love sid and the guys. But these guys won't win again. Not in Pittsburgh at least. The retool they have tried have not worked.
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Brad A++++. This is a building year. Leafs upgraded defense. Next year they can up grade the forwards. Leafs are finally heading in the right direction after the Dubas disaster. Durzi instead of Morgan would have been rhe way to go.
Leafs made bad deals lol
They signed a 34 year old 2nd/3rd pair guy until he's 40 lol definitely not A+ especially from his boss's perspective if he has to pay this dude for the last 4 years of his contract to not play for the team.
How old is Jesse ? Talks like a 7 year old….
Trouba was NOT a July 1st signing by Rangers. He was traded in June.These 3 guys make more mistakes per show than a team of dyslexic spelling bee participants....😖
People got a small detail that doesn't matter wrong on a long live show? No that never happens.
Can Steve get more negative, I’ve been unsubscribed and coming back a few times hopeful that the vitriol would be at least toned down a bit, but nope, this is just to much, i’m sorry to say I’m out. Good luck
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