Dooku Was NOT Retconned in Tales of the Jedi!

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @igi-chan
    @igi-chan Год назад +410

    The part that is retconned is his age, he seems much younger, but hes older than Palpatine. Hes described in books to still have white hair during this time. That is all i have to say!

    • @bushwookie7836
      @bushwookie7836 Год назад +31

      Well this is somewhere between a 10 year gap between when he left and phantom then there ANOTHER 10 years before we see him in clone wars. In other words there is at least another 10-20 years for him to age which is why he isn’t old yet

    • @thesamuraiman
      @thesamuraiman Год назад +46

      @@bushwookie7836 well, he was 70 in Phantom Menace and 80 in Clone Wars, so he probably should have been graying when Qui-Gon died

    • @bushwookie7836
      @bushwookie7836 Год назад +25

      @@thesamuraiman yes but also no its been revealed that powerful jedi such as dooku live on average to be around 100-120 with really powerful such as him being able to live to be 200 or older so it makes since that he may not be greying yet

    • @igi-chan
      @igi-chan Год назад +9

      People im saying it has been retconned that his appearance looks so young, because in novels from before the dark times when Disney bought star wars, Duuku had grey hair even 10 years BEFORE phantom menace, but now they have him with non-grey hair so children are able to tell this is suppose to be him “younger”
      Thats it :p i aint saying powerful jedi cant age slower, im saying Duuku specifically is being altered in appearance from how he has been described at this age before

    • @darthnicholas8528
      @darthnicholas8528 Год назад +15

      He probably used hair dye as I’ve seen so many 70-year-olds do.

  • @timothylewis960
    @timothylewis960 Год назад +60

    My favorite Sith and a great duelist I wish they showed more of him and his fighting skills

    • @hussainumair5837
      @hussainumair5837 Год назад

      Samee

    • @memebrain2177
      @memebrain2177 9 месяцев назад +2

      He's a political idealist not necessarily a sith
      He uses the knowledge of the sith but he never proclaims himself as such

  • @moreaxe9829
    @moreaxe9829 Год назад +81

    The man resigned not dishonorably discharged.... 😆

  • @RevolverOcelot2008
    @RevolverOcelot2008 Год назад +175

    I thought he left because of Qui-gons death

    • @TimberlakeTigerGirl
      @TimberlakeTigerGirl Год назад +73

      Between the extended universe to the books and comics, he left for various reasons. From Qui Gon's death being the cause to him having to resolve a civil war on his homeworld caused by his brother.
      But I think that Qui Gon's death is what caused Dooku to forsake the Jedi completely. Since it literally took Qui Gon dying for the Jedi to realize the Sith was back. When Dooku had been warning them for years.

    • @fakeraven4079
      @fakeraven4079 Год назад +14

      He was in conflict with Jedi politics.

    • @toma.4808
      @toma.4808 Год назад +7

      He despised the beaurocracy and corruption. Qui gons death was the final straw

    • @TheyWantMeGone69
      @TheyWantMeGone69 Год назад +1

      @@toma.4808 Makes sense but then he joins the guy who allowed Maul to kill Qui Gon?

    • @HushPuppy-be8it
      @HushPuppy-be8it Год назад +1

      @@TheyWantMeGone69in Tales of the Jedi he gets mad at Sidious for allowing Maul to kill Qui Gon.

  • @mattrusz3221
    @mattrusz3221 Год назад +27

    Two things bothered me about TOTJ
    1) Kenobi's hair. He's seen with his classic AOTC hairstyle but is already during the clone wars. We see he has his classic clone wars hairstyle when Anakin and Kenobi meet Ahsoka for the first time so how did he suddenly grow his hair out??
    Also I forgot the name of the jedi master but i think it was Ptera Sinube? But either way, his lightsaber was white in the clone wars episode when Ahsoka lost her saber but now it's Blue?

    • @fxnessfather6611
      @fxnessfather6611 Год назад +8

      Apparently Sinubes lightsaber wasn’t white it was just a really light shade of blue..

    • @_Snippy_One_
      @_Snippy_One_ Год назад +2

      @@fxnessfather6611 Wasn't it because of the ray shields that caused his lightsaber to look blue instead of white? Because that's what I iniatially thought.

  • @darin7150
    @darin7150 Год назад +5

    Wow, this is a nice piece of the story to know!!!

  • @CDNBreadDogs
    @CDNBreadDogs 8 месяцев назад

    Whats sad is he spent years with his opinion being ignored and silenced, but then when finally one of the Jedi Council heard him out and believed him, he killed her

  • @TheAverageGamer1
    @TheAverageGamer1 Год назад +49

    Alwaya thought dooku left because the council covered up the fa t that qui Gon was killed by a sith. Either way you geta like forbthe effort

    • @TY-km8hj
      @TY-km8hj Год назад +6

      In legends that happened as he felt the council and jedi failed qui gon and its palatine that preyed on that loss to bring dooku into the fold

    • @Leostar-Regalius
      @Leostar-Regalius Год назад +3

      ​@@TY-km8hj too bad that legends isn't canon now, also i thought it was to do with his wife

    • @TY-km8hj
      @TY-km8hj Год назад +6

      @@Leostar-Regalius it's Canon to me, and I remember him having a lover but I can't remember the exact storyline or comic, the big thing that caused him to switch sides tho was qui gons death as he then lost all faith in the jedi

    • @Spurglar8769
      @Spurglar8769 8 месяцев назад

      @@Leostar-Regalius I don’t think he had a wife

  • @steves2763
    @steves2763 Год назад +2

    Long long ago in Carlitos Way!

  • @steves2763
    @steves2763 Год назад +2

    Am I the only one who saw a Jedi AL Pacino in this video?

  • @G1Grimlock94
    @G1Grimlock94 4 месяца назад

    If according to the Canon

  • @toma.4808
    @toma.4808 Год назад +1

    Its incredible. Through the jedi orders history their order was nearly destroyed and rebuilt so many times often due to them growing cold, arrogant and cruel and yet everytime they rebuild the new order says itll never be luke the other...well, history repeats itself the more dooku and his motives are explained the more i find myself siding with him.

    • @empdisaster10
      @empdisaster10 Год назад

      In my personal opinion, Dooku got played by sideous. His heart was in the right place. He wanted to do good and to save the galaxy. He never wanted the destruction of the jedi, just its reformation into a better order and to free the jedi from the shackles of the senate. Palapatine lied to him and lured him into thinking that by orchestrating the clone wars thats what would happen, and thats why he had dooku killed by anakin in RotS. Dooku would have turned against palpatine come the end of the clone wars seeing order 66 happen and the rise of the empire, so Dooku had to go before that plan could finalize

  • @harrambou9468
    @harrambou9468 7 месяцев назад

    Wait hold up-
    42BBY??

  • @mrscooby193
    @mrscooby193 Год назад +1

    BBY before baby yoda

  • @obiwand6155
    @obiwand6155 Год назад +8

    Love it

  • @malaikaarif1629
    @malaikaarif1629 Год назад +1

    The 23

  • @laynecantrell8864
    @laynecantrell8864 Год назад +8

    Someone help me bby ?

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Год назад +5

      BBY stands for “Before the Battle of Yavin,” which is the battle at the Death Star in A New Hope. The Star Wars universe goes along the time scale “BBY” and “ABY” which stands for “After the Battle of Yavin”

    • @thebatmanofneo-gotham5667
      @thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 Год назад +2

      BBY stands for "Before the Battle of Yavin"

  • @heywoodfloyd9
    @heywoodfloyd9 6 месяцев назад

    Yes, he was. Dooku was never considered for the Council in new canon. In old canon, he was but declined. He didn't get cucked by Windu.

  • @yusrashah1173
    @yusrashah1173 Год назад +2

    very interesting

  • @reedgfx435
    @reedgfx435 Год назад +2

    Damn

  • @thomasthedankengine4893
    @thomasthedankengine4893 Год назад

    what is the song in the background

  • @helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217
    @helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217 Год назад +1

    I wonder this dooku has a red lightsaber what did he hate to have a red kyber crystal

    • @bobbieplayzzz8972
      @bobbieplayzzz8972 Год назад +1

      Probably the Jedi Order

    • @100nitrog2
      @100nitrog2 Год назад +1

      He hated retcons so much that it turned his lightsaber red.

  • @Shiggystardust
    @Shiggystardust 8 месяцев назад

    All these prequels are trying to do is give excuses to the Sith Lords. F dooku and f anakain the child killer

  • @DNVisuals24
    @DNVisuals24 Год назад

    Interesting

  • @hermittmog8697
    @hermittmog8697 Год назад

    Dooku wasn't in PM. Going by just on screen material he could have been a Jedi at that time. Where are these dates coming from?

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Год назад +3

      Books, and Tales of the Jedi.

    • @hermittmog8697
      @hermittmog8697 Год назад

      @@RetneysHolocron I don't remember specific dates from TotJ. Either way it didn't seem like a retcon to me. Dooku was a Jedi sometime before episode two when he was originally introduced, so it made perfect sense to me. There were a few good books but I never really considered anything other than movies and shows as "cannon" so it made no difference to me. Any specific books you could recommend?

    • @DingleDangle66
      @DingleDangle66 Год назад

      @@RetneysHolocronDooku was literally a Jedi at the time of the Phantom Menace. Hence why Yaddle wasn’t seen at the end of the movie.

  • @Neskess
    @Neskess Год назад +6

    new canon suks

  • @CalebForbus
    @CalebForbus 9 месяцев назад

    This is why people shouldn’t write comics and stuff bc it makes everything confusing

  • @Marlo_Doh_Waldo42
    @Marlo_Doh_Waldo42 Год назад +1

    F canon, I feel like I know nothing of a franchise I spent decades learning of. 😞

  • @dylanziesing6122
    @dylanziesing6122 Год назад +1

    Nope, nothing in Tales of the Jedi suggests that. That is pure speculation we have no reason to believe.
    Just like comics have been retconned before(like Yoda’s saber isn’t burned) this is also another.
    You can make up any reason it won’t change that screen canon is higher than comic.

  • @simban00
    @simban00 Год назад +4

    Tales of the jedi is a platform to tell Ashoka's story for Darth Felonius. Like the sequels were for Rey, Kenobi was for Reva and this for Ashoka but because she's Darth Felonius girlfriend, had the privilege of being slipped into the Clone Wars and then slipped into and imposing on everything else including tales of the Jedi. The Dooku and Qui-Gon story was a great one, and they should have just focused on that because everybody loves Qui-Gon Jim, and now Dooku has become a very interesting character. It's a like Socrates, Plato , Aristotle , Alexander the Great story. But we have to watch almost an entire episode of Ashoka getting shot by Stormtroopers over and over and over and over and over and over and again as conditioning on us as to why she is the greatest jedi ever in our galaxy the Star Wars galaxy, and every other galaxy out there. Someone needs to put a big boot on the size of his big cowboy hat but it does fit his ego and kick Darh Felonius a good old football feild goal kick in the ass so he can smarten up. I cant wait for Ashoka toilet paper. How many of us can relate to the Ashoka character hit the like button

  • @herrdoctor2895
    @herrdoctor2895 Год назад

    Ngl, in my book, he's a Grey Jedi

  • @SimonCowie86
    @SimonCowie86 Год назад +1

    They have changed when Dooku left the order during the phantom menace after Darth Mauls death & when he killed Yadel he couldn’t go back.
    That’s what Tales of the Jedi has showen & thats Canon now.
    Dooku was moving freely around the Jedi temple cause he was still a Jedi .
    That’s how Dooku was able to question Windo bring made a Jedi master & his seat on the council.
    That old date when Dooku left has been changed due to Tales of the Jedi cause the old date in the books & comics are not cannon anymore.
    The old cannon was erased a long time ago when Disney bought Lucasfilm & the Star Wars franchise & they made a new date for Dooku leaving the order & to how Yadel died & that’s what’s cannon now cause it’s Disney that states what’s cannon & what’s not.

  • @Leftyotism
    @Leftyotism Год назад

    Finally a voice of reason! 🥰
    🥲
    Can't listen to the ragers. 😱