I'll tell you what's up with Sukuna, I've cracked the code. YES HE'S EMBARRASSED, not about people's moral judgements but about the fact that he can't read. Not only has Kana changed a lot since the Heian era, there's a good chance he doesn't even know wtf a Kanji is. He probably looked through Yuji's memories, said I ain't readin allat, and wants to keep people from ever engaging with him enough that the written medium ever comes into play. That's why he said stranger danger to Mahito, cause he could've read his soul or whatever he did to Nanami in their first fight.
Jkk always felt so hollow to me since the beggining, the characters to me felt way more like walking tropes than people, so i could never really connect with them, the tone always felt all over the place too, as mentioned it feels so odd how this series out of nowhere the world just suddenly became kind.
There’s nothing entertaining about generic Jujutsu Shitty, season 1 is mid, season 2 is 3/10. But unless you’re a kid or teenager you might find it entertaining with its mindless fights 24/7
The fact people recognise Geto (someone who literally shows up and died in 3 chapters and is part of a flash back arc) to be a villain with more depth than Sukuna who’s been the main villain for 271 chapters is really depressing. Honestly I can’t think of another example like this in fiction. Anyways great video.
Is it depressing? Don't get me wrong, I appreciated how Geto had the real issue. He does have more depth. Geto's issue of: "What doe we do to stop curses permanently?" never got resolved. Kenjaku and Yuki referenced the issue, but the story ends with "let's go back to business as usual but with a positive spin"- which is a bit underwhelming. But, I liked how Sukuna was one of those strong dudes whose 1-track mind only changes when beaten- the final scene of the manga was a good: Sukuna accepting he lost and changing his mind.
Self-Loathing is a fitting theme since that's what the all manga artists were born and bred to latch onto among a workaholic society that discourages anyone not doing their best all the time. I personally really thought MHA and JJK would actually branch out and be different cause they seemed so willing early on, but as the saying goes in Japan "The nail that sticks out gets hammered in." Stories can thrive with restraints, but Japanese work ideology plus weekly releases just seems like Anti-Art, but they're never gonna change. The best way for Art to reach its full potential is to be made on the Artist's terms only. The time is now for the audience to start creating, no investors or corporate entities, if you're a good artist and storyteller, you can make bank with merch from your story. I'm drawing my own manga right now, all on my terms, so I can ensure quality, I encourage every aspiring creator to do the same.
"Heian Era" is the biggest fail of jjk tbh. Was never contextualized fully, did not live up to what it was promised to be, and then was never fully capitalized on with kenjaku especially, but also a majority of the reincarnated sorcerers.
16:17 sorry lmao, but using hunter x hunter as a standard for shonen mangas will only make you more frustrated togashi is much more experienced writer and have all time he wants to write his story
@@mar1hunnitThe last arc of YYH suffers the same issues with JJK. But at least with Togashi it was due to health and not a lack of passion. Gege lost passion for his own series
I have to totally agree with the whole putting authors on a pedestal, and treating them as if they are always benevolent, just because someone makes a story that you like, doesn't mean their are going to be good people, unable to make mistakes or they are your friends who you have to be a white knight, for them
To be perfectly honest... I'm only collecting JJK through the... I think it's called the Shabuuya Incident...? That's apparently the ultimate peak of the series... And I believe that's up to volume 16... The only reason I'm even collecting JJK in the first place is just because I like it's concepts of "Curses" and I want to use it for my own stories...
JJK is one of those generic garbage that for some reason got a following. The bar is set too low in this decade. My hero academia, Blue lock, Demon Slayer and JJK. Wow. It got really bad huh.
Attack on Titan is worst when it come to the ending, it retcon everything. Eren and the whole Survey Corps all died for nothing. Waste of time of a story.
I think jjk's story is more like an excuse to have cool action fight scenes, especially gojo's fate of not being buried, i assume yuta keeps gojo's body around like another tool to fight with
JJK has some nuance. Enough to justify delving into the story a little deeper than surface level. It pairs nice with its nihilistic (and somewhat hopeful) shounen world. I don’t think JJK has conflicting narratives like the video creator says. I think that these different ideas in the story can co exist.
Been on a mha love arc so I can’t really say much about your issues with it. With jjk though so much of this is sorely needed to be acknowledged for the fanbase, everyone just can’t admit there’s too much problems.
I don’t think that JJK’s moral messaging is nonsensical. I think the characters views and the themes overall do not necessarily contradict one another, and that they can co exist.
Its all over the place, there is no consistent message like Naruto or attack on titan or hxh. Because everything is so surface level and thrown randomly throughout the story. Its feels like something a highschooler with severe adhd would write whatever they think its deep at the moment
@@jjnhjnh3378 This hits a little hard, considering I fit the definition of high schooler and have severe ADHD who hopes to write a story in the future. This is why I intend to take writing classes in college to improve at it. Only then will I look to establishing a Universe.
24:08 I sometimes about if Black Clover should have ended in Spade arc, like change a plot point and make it a bit longer. In some ways, Black Clover did die for me after the GIGA transfer, but I try to be optimistic. BC to me was a series that always tell you to be the best version yourself and I'll always appreciated it and Tabata for that
0:56 Sorry but this random need to get on what the authors write about is random, if they didn't write about these subjects you'd have a problem and ask "why don't mangas ever talk about this?" and when they do, you judge it when it isn't written or tackled how you thought it should. Doesn't mean we should throw labels on them like bigot or disgusting. Like I'm all here for criticizing their writing but not in this way, it diminishes the criticism when its obvious you have an issue with how the topics were written not because of the story.
I think that as the culmination of all of your other videos, this one stands proud. For your past videos, I have had moments where I had to pause and rewind sections so that I could better understand what it was you were saying, especially with the critiques on the authors and their philosophies on change. I even had to talk myself through a two hour deconstruction about your perspective on Horikoshi and Japan's cultural influence on MHA's ending just to understand your MHA videos. But I think you really nailed this experience of mine in this video: You need to spend time on what's important in order to get a better understanding of why it is important, and simply accepting what is given to you often hides what is important. I got a better experience with what it means to be human, fighting to understand what you were talking about, than I did with JJK, and I just think that this is neat. Great video, thank you for the complete analysis of what you did and what you did not like, I only rewinded a few sections, and I'll see you in the next one.
Tf you throwing shade at Vinland Saga for seen literally no fans like that exist and it is genuinely a good series 💀 especially compared to what you’ve covered on your Channel
TELL THEM THE TRUTH🗣. But fr tho, i was seeing jjk before reading part 2, noticed some issues early and it kept scaling and scaling, until it became obvious by now. By them i already had left the jjk boat
@@daltoniospizza9175 nah I used to be csm biggest fan but it's just so slow as of recent not to mention it's not as captivating. Can't really put my finger on why though
I think that’s the trap that a story that doesn’t feel the need to be super specific about things can fall into. I for one consider JJK to be very solid narratively overall, and that it’s themes do not overlap or contradict each other. The story never reaches a definitive end goal. Curses still exist, and likely won’t be going anywhere for a long time, which is going to make the story feel like it was pointless for some people. Sukuna acknowledging that other life perspectives are valid makes the story feel like it was all for something to me. It’s not about reaching that end goal that Gojo ultimately wanted in the long run. It’s simply a step in the right direction. And I think that for a story like JJK that wanted to keep its scope smaller, that’s a pretty good note to leave off on.
Speaking as one of the morons who enjoyed JJK myself (I'm being playful here, not spiteful, I promise), the glaring lack of character interaction and arc resolution (and side character presence) has me seriously considering getting into writing/drawing fanfiction. I don't mean this in an arrogant "I can totally write the story better than the author can" way, but more so in a "I want to do my own version of this and fill in some of these blanks". Of course I find it depressing that these blanks exist in the first place, but I'm guessing the grind of being a mangaka (which I hear is hell) eventually wears people down to the point where they just want to end their series as quickly as possible, which is really unfortunate. If that grind didn't exist and these stories were allowed to proceed organically with authors in healthy conditions the quality of storytelling might've even greatly improved, MHA's Heteromorph Arc for example probably could have gotten the build up and consequences that it deserved instead of "Be kind and prejudice will stop". A boy can only dream.
Just fwiw, "fridging" a character literally refers to killing them in a needless way, not just not using them for the rest of the series. Thank fuck Kirara didn't actually get fridged, though they did deserve better presence in the story. That said, one of the only real critiques of your critique is that, as someone who took a long time to get out of the same mindset, Yuji never really viewed himself as a person, and as much as I'd have liked more explicit exploration of his exploration of those thoughts, Sukuna freeing himself was not only enabled by Yuji's sense of dehumanization but also took away the fate that had been preordained for him and sort of forced autonomy onto him. I spent a lot of time in the same mindset of not really feeling like a person in my own life and focusing strictly on the people I care about without realizing how much my self loathing was negatively impacting them because I sort of ruled myself out as even being worth caring about. Maybe I am just doing Gege's thinking for him but Yuji really clicked with me as a protagonist by the end of the story because, frankly, I've also come to feel empathy towards people who have enacted horrible violence on people I care about. Hell I'm almost positive I'm projecting this onto the story, but thats the fucked up thing about feelings is you don't really get to pick what you feel, and Sorcery Fight getting a relatively happy ending felt like a good fit in my eyes. I wish it wasn't as rushed sure but fuck it the emotional manipulation worked on me because I was so invested on such an unsually, deeply personal level.
Hey, MHA is first, consistent, and it does , yeah the league of villains even if they have a point that actually is heard and has an impact, they still are tragic monster, like toga dying showing how really useful she could have been doing something she loves, is the best she can want there? And she has an impact that ochako changes stuff that many others dontr happen that. And he does not have to , most of that criticism doesnt matter to what the story is. Its still a solid story nd a decent end, if rushed. And consistent. MHA is fine, and sorry MHA is a shounen and shounen, can be cheesy. And no MHA is fine, it never is too overly dark or edgy, and a shounen, and, can be. Toga became a monster, shigaraki, a monster, spinner lived and twist also , understandable, that all are very tragic characters and they get dignity at the end, but they still are murderous monster, that dont deserve a happy end, why would they, they deserve dignity which, they actually get, and being heard. MHA is a lot cheesy comic to counter and, yeah thats a shouneny shounen. And jujutsu kaisen is, its not it tries way too hard to be subversive and dark and serious and edgy and, thats why its ending is so awful, because its the most cheesy one piece undoing deaths. Thats the beetrayal, MHA never does that. And it never was about going in the dark weeds of the darks of society, thats unfair criticism. It was always cheesy wit hsome agnowledging the darker side.
I was trying to make the connection as to what they were getting at lol like I understand Japanese mangaka are f in the head, I mean look at Fujimoto, has done some weird sht great mangas and fortunately not as terrible like others who have physically hurt people but what about it, these people tend to write some of the best stories. That still doesn't make them any better tho, I just thought it goes without saying 😅
I feel as if Gege wanted to do so much more with all the setup they did, but just couldn't pull through. Gege probably was just really exhausted. Hopefully in their next series they'll be better prepared or be able to take more breaks. On EVERYONES soul we will be seated for Gege's next work.
JJK was definitely never setting itself up to be a long series. I always loved how gege never felt the need to expand on certain things that another series would have spent entire arcs on. But I will definitely be looking out for his next work, even if it is just oshi no Kaisen.
12:30 Gojo not getting a burial and his students seemingly not caring is purposeful, its meant to show us what Todo talked about during Shibuya how sorcerers can't look back at those dead and need to keep moving on as sorcerers for they have a purpose in the world that can't be limited to such misfortunes. This is further expressed through Yuji's cog mentality, he's fallen into the toxic mentality of the society and now doesn't care about himself, something Gojo and Sukuna, the main rule breakers and disrupters of the society push for. I think you're looking at it in a distasteful way honestly, the cog mentality is meant to show the toxic control a society can have on their members, Yuji is brainwashed and you're hitting on it my guy, you just don't fw it? What's more, I think Gege's blatantly showing us that yeah Gojo and Sukuna, the only two capable of pushing against the society didn't actually have the effect they were meant to have. I ain't tryna say Gege some master writer but he wrote the ending with a happy ending but subtly (not so subtly) showed us the society still is toxic and the society likely won't change.
Theory crafting and leak culture are what tarnished JJK. I never elevated JJK beyond an entertaining battle manga with a well constructed power system, an easy story, and incredible fights. I loved the characters too. JJK isn't Shakespeare, but it has enough nuance and depth that warrants enough analysis to look beyond its surface. Not to say that the series is perfect or above critique, but the criticisms leveraged against JJK are mostly from people who wanted the story to be something other than what it is, or elevated it beyond the confines of what was presented. Was the ending amazing....no, but I was satisfied. To discount the journey towards the end, and all of the supreme highs of the narrative because the ending wasn't incredible, does a disservice to the work as a whole and JJK needs to be judged as whole, not nitpicked on a chapter by chapter basis like this community so often does.
I mean if an author is gonna talk about a theme and complain that people actually engaged with it or criticize that it doesn’t do a good job exploring in depth then why even try to put the theme in the first place. Gege presented a lot of ideas but struggled to follow through on said ideas. That has nothing to do with it being a dumb fun fight manga. There were expectations set and not met. It didn’t help that jjk fans kept theorycrafting like you said.
3:24 THIS PART! 😤😤😤 Look if you like a anime thats simple and is not overly complicated in its writing ok...but dont act like this anime is literary gold.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 No senseless arguing or disrespecting each other's opinions and anime. If you want we can have a genuine quick convo. In the context of the video I will talk about Mha and jjk. My thoughts on both shows is that for the audience it's for its 100/10, they're great shows that should be respected in the entertainment space alongside fellow shows. The thing is they're not the cream of the crop and definitely not Oscar worthy.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 if it wasn't for the anime that are great being either to old to be relevant, not digestible for newer anime audiences to watch, and being buried beneath the hundreds of anime coming out every year. MHA AND JJK along with demon slayer would not be that big
I don't like any shonen from recent years besides Mob Pyscho and AoT. And I really don't understand how people watch AoT and think it's fascist and not anti-fascist. I just can't wrap my head around it, esp when the nation the fascist leader reigned in is shown to be razed to the ground in the final moments of the show. I just feel like people who still parrot this view watch the show and read the manga with bad faith and confirmation bias mixed selective hearing, ignoring the majority of the characters and plot points-like the war criminal Gross or the entire spreads depicting the horror of genocide.
You’re most likely correct. Some people view something through the lens of wanting to find a problem with it. If you want to find a problem, you’ll always find one. Doesn’t matter what it is.
Because Isayama had shitty writing in the end . When your story doesn't show that the fascist character ( Floch) was wrong it is a problem . The manga always was anti fascist but the problem is the writing
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo I feel like people want the author to spell things out , like have some speech where they declare Floch as Bad. If I wanted to nit pick, I don't appreciate how the anime glamorized his self sacrifice to destroy the ship before he died. I think more can be gleamed from his characterization than "He must be good, because he was not declared bad enough by the characters within the story." Also want to point out when he shot someone and gave a creepy smile or all the other horrible things he did that depict him as not the good guy.
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo Floch stood on business- his motivation was to protect his own people. It's sympathetic, but at the same time it's obvious Floch's solution- to meat ride Eren to global genocide- was wrong. Isayama didn't have to spell it out any more than he already did.
I mean maybe write off modern Shonen, but saying you're done with modern Japanese stories over the subjects of this video is like saying you're giving up on modern American stories because of Marvel Movies (and I guess maybe Game of Thrones for the passing mention of Berserk early on).
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💯💯💯 KEEP THIS UP! Recently found you and seen a few vids, and i wanna say thank you. More people need to speak up about the bullcrap in the anime community nowadays.
I don’t care about bleach, black clover, or my hero academia enough to defend them, but all of the stuff in this video to call JJK problematic is dumb to me. Some subjectivity, neutrality, and nihilism in a story is dope. At the end of the day, the characters are striving for a better world in both jujutsu society and the world as a whole. A world where a Gojo wouldn’t be needed is a world without curses. The characters have not reached that goal yet, as it’s borderline impossible, but it was Gojo’s long term goal. The jujutsu sorceress do have to “lock in” to make it happen. I don’t think that jujutsu Kaisen has a bunch of conflicting narratives. It has several different narratives that can co-exist. I feel that your overall conclusion on JJK requires a bit of reaching to come to, almost as if you viewed the story through the lens of needing to find some deep rooted problematic undertones.
Calling manga writers weird is like calling grass green. It's nothing new. Heck, plenty of writers are weird people if you look into the stuff they write about. Stephen King is the first example i can think of.
lol what is this- social justice warrior content in 2024? Bro, you're having a hard time with the anime community cos you have no chill- you begin with assumptions that everything is "problematic" from your Jewish cultural Marxist lens and that distorts everything when you try to analyze it. I understand the criticisms of JJK. When I read it I found it striking at how fast-paced the show was; it was intentional on the author's part to prioritize fights over character development/interaction. There are people who defend the story, cos Gege does shoe-horn in enough thematic material to make the story coherent, but it is the bare minimum.
You gotta explain the racism of Bleach more. I get some bad/goofy designs for some villains but Bleach made a natural effort to include different nationalities and ethnicities not common in anime. Personally most of the coolest Black Anime character designs are solely from Bleach especially with Lille and Tousen. Overall I agree with your points about manga authors though
I'll tell you what's up with Sukuna, I've cracked the code.
YES HE'S EMBARRASSED, not about people's moral judgements but about the fact that he can't read. Not only has Kana changed a lot since the Heian era, there's a good chance he doesn't even know wtf a Kanji is.
He probably looked through Yuji's memories, said I ain't readin allat, and wants to keep people from ever engaging with him enough that the written medium ever comes into play. That's why he said stranger danger to Mahito, cause he could've read his soul or whatever he did to Nanami in their first fight.
so he's illiterate....fair enough.
Jkk always felt so hollow to me since the beggining, the characters to me felt way more like walking tropes than people, so i could never really connect with them, the tone always felt all over the place too, as mentioned it feels so odd how this series out of nowhere the world just suddenly became kind.
It’s called generic shonen with no substance
Entertaining as JJK may be, I truly feel like this is the first WSJ series that left me puzzled in the end
There’s nothing entertaining about generic Jujutsu Shitty, season 1 is mid, season 2 is 3/10.
But unless you’re a kid or teenager you might find it entertaining with its mindless fights 24/7
@ You’re entitled to how you feel 🤷🏾♂️. Different strokes for different folks
@ I respect that
At the end of the day Gege was just writing based off vibes towards the end🙏🏾
No dude bro, he was cooking, let him cook, he's whooping up a 5 star meal just give him a chance
@@McLovinMcFlurry too late
the restaurant he was cooking in needs a visit from Gordon Ramsay
After Jujutsu Kaisen's abysmal ending. I just want to say that it should be a federal crime for Gege to ever write again!!!
#ThankYouGege for putting down the pen!!!
I never cared about the arthur lol he should write a better story! Glad I avoided Jujutsu Kaisen.
Its his first time doing this type of thing. Calm yourself.
The fact people recognise Geto (someone who literally shows up and died in 3 chapters and is part of a flash back arc) to be a villain with more depth than Sukuna who’s been the main villain for 271 chapters is really depressing. Honestly I can’t think of another example like this in fiction.
Anyways great video.
Is it depressing? Don't get me wrong, I appreciated how Geto had the real issue. He does have more depth. Geto's issue of: "What doe we do to stop curses permanently?" never got resolved. Kenjaku and Yuki referenced the issue, but the story ends with "let's go back to business as usual but with a positive spin"- which is a bit underwhelming.
But, I liked how Sukuna was one of those strong dudes whose 1-track mind only changes when beaten- the final scene of the manga was a good: Sukuna accepting he lost and changing his mind.
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Self-Loathing is a fitting theme since that's what the all manga artists were born and bred to latch onto among a workaholic society that discourages anyone not doing their best all the time. I personally really thought MHA and JJK would actually branch out and be different cause they seemed so willing early on, but as the saying goes in Japan "The nail that sticks out gets hammered in." Stories can thrive with restraints, but Japanese work ideology plus weekly releases just seems like Anti-Art, but they're never gonna change. The best way for Art to reach its full potential is to be made on the Artist's terms only. The time is now for the audience to start creating, no investors or corporate entities, if you're a good artist and storyteller, you can make bank with merch from your story. I'm drawing my own manga right now, all on my terms, so I can ensure quality, I encourage every aspiring creator to do the same.
Nice
good luck to you bro hope u make it !
"Heian Era" is the biggest fail of jjk tbh. Was never contextualized fully, did not live up to what it was promised to be, and then was never fully capitalized on with kenjaku especially, but also a majority of the reincarnated sorcerers.
I don’t believe that everything needs to be explained or delved into. The heian era being mysterious was cool.
You start this video out swinging and I am all for it.
16:17 sorry lmao, but using hunter x hunter as a standard for shonen mangas will only make you more frustrated
togashi is much more experienced writer and have all time he wants to write his story
Yep, and HxH wasnt even his first full series like these guys
@@mar1hunnit and that's why i don't use togashi, oda or inoue's works as standard
Ong I’ve been saying that Naruto and FMAB is the standard for a while now
@@mar1hunnitThe last arc of YYH suffers the same issues with JJK. But at least with Togashi it was due to health and not a lack of passion. Gege lost passion for his own series
@@KR811 it was also due to him being over worked that's why his style got more rougher through out the series
Even though people are shitting on you, this is a good video and you spoke facts. Stand proud, you can cook.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 but is it true tho
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 ok I trust you
I have to totally agree with the whole putting authors on a pedestal, and treating them as if they are always benevolent, just because someone makes a story that you like, doesn't mean their are going to be good people, unable to make mistakes or they are your friends who you have to be a white knight, for them
To be perfectly honest... I'm only collecting JJK through the... I think it's called the Shabuuya Incident...? That's apparently the ultimate peak of the series... And I believe that's up to volume 16...
The only reason I'm even collecting JJK in the first place is just because I like it's concepts of "Curses" and I want to use it for my own stories...
JJK is one of those generic garbage that for some reason got a following. The bar is set too low in this decade.
My hero academia, Blue lock, Demon Slayer and JJK. Wow. It got really bad huh.
They think flashy animation and pretty colors is equivalent to “good anime” lmao
Attack on Titan is worst when it come to the ending, it retcon everything. Eren and the whole Survey Corps all died for nothing. Waste of time of a story.
I'm so glad I avoided Jujutsu Kaisen, its a nothing burger of a story, generic shonen.
I think jjk's story is more like an excuse to have cool action fight scenes, especially gojo's fate of not being buried, i assume yuta keeps gojo's body around like another tool to fight with
JJK has some nuance. Enough to justify delving into the story a little deeper than surface level. It pairs nice with its nihilistic (and somewhat hopeful) shounen world. I don’t think JJK has conflicting narratives like the video creator says. I think that these different ideas in the story can co exist.
Been on a mha love arc so I can’t really say much about your issues with it. With jjk though so much of this is sorely needed to be acknowledged for the fanbase, everyone just can’t admit there’s too much problems.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 There is.
it feels so validating to see someone else who shares my thoughts about why JJK's moral messaging is kinda bizarre and nonsensical
True
I don’t think that JJK’s moral messaging is nonsensical. I think the characters views and the themes overall do not necessarily contradict one another, and that they can co exist.
Its all over the place, there is no consistent message like Naruto or attack on titan or hxh. Because everything is so surface level and thrown randomly throughout the story. Its feels like something a highschooler with severe adhd would write whatever they think its deep at the moment
@@jjnhjnh3378 This hits a little hard, considering I fit the definition of high schooler and have severe ADHD who hopes to write a story in the future.
This is why I intend to take writing classes in college to improve at it. Only then will I look to establishing a Universe.
24:08
I sometimes about if Black Clover should have ended in Spade arc, like change a plot point and make it a bit longer. In some ways, Black Clover did die for me after the GIGA transfer, but I try to be optimistic. BC to me was a series that always tell you to be the best version yourself and I'll always appreciated it and Tabata for that
0:56 Sorry but this random need to get on what the authors write about is random, if they didn't write about these subjects you'd have a problem and ask "why don't mangas ever talk about this?" and when they do, you judge it when it isn't written or tackled how you thought it should. Doesn't mean we should throw labels on them like bigot or disgusting. Like I'm all here for criticizing their writing but not in this way, it diminishes the criticism when its obvious you have an issue with how the topics were written not because of the story.
This type of person just loves to complain
Eventhough i dont agree with a good chunk of this, its still a very well made, quality video. Nice job
Omg goat posted
I think that as the culmination of all of your other videos, this one stands proud.
For your past videos, I have had moments where I had to pause and rewind sections so that I could better understand what it was you were saying, especially with the critiques on the authors and their philosophies on change.
I even had to talk myself through a two hour deconstruction about your perspective on Horikoshi and Japan's cultural influence on MHA's ending just to understand your MHA videos. But I think you really nailed this experience of mine in this video:
You need to spend time on what's important in order to get a better understanding of why it is important, and simply accepting what is given to you often hides what is important.
I got a better experience with what it means to be human, fighting to understand what you were talking about, than I did with JJK, and I just think that this is neat.
Great video, thank you for the complete analysis of what you did and what you did not like, I only rewinded a few sections, and I'll see you in the next one.
Thanks for being apart of my journey!!
GRAAAAH CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS ❤❤
Tatsuki Fujimoto, deliver a satisfying conclusion to Chainsaw Man if it will end some day. Please, please 🙏🏼
Tf you throwing shade at Vinland Saga for seen literally no fans like that exist and it is genuinely a good series 💀 especially compared to what you’ve covered on your Channel
Couldn't be Chainsaw Man. And that's all I'm gonna say
??CSM is also edgy, weird and overly dramatic.
TELL THEM THE TRUTH🗣. But fr tho, i was seeing jjk before reading part 2, noticed some issues early and it kept scaling and scaling, until it became obvious by now. By them i already had left the jjk boat
Its falling off as we speak
@@iwanttobeawesome in ur dreams maybe
@@daltoniospizza9175 nah I used to be csm biggest fan but it's just so slow as of recent not to mention it's not as captivating. Can't really put my finger on why though
Kenny is 100% Diabetic 😂
10:06 "You wanted to tackle Conversion Therapy."
Cognitive Therapy. Not Conversion Therapy, she's not trans.
conversion therapy isn't exclusive to trans ppl
@@sometimeselii I guess I wouldn't know, I thought a Google Search was enough to understand.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803Interesting
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 Ah I see
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gege cant write
there i said it
He can but bro was a mixed bag on purpose. There’s a lot of narratively sound stuff in JJK.
i really liked the editing and the music in this video!
I love the editing
thank u!! ^^
To me JJK is story I consider alot of fun and story I like but all themes and stuff mostly feel like a nothing burger
I think that’s the trap that a story that doesn’t feel the need to be super specific about things can fall into. I for one consider JJK to be very solid narratively overall, and that it’s themes do not overlap or contradict each other. The story never reaches a definitive end goal. Curses still exist, and likely won’t be going anywhere for a long time, which is going to make the story feel like it was pointless for some people. Sukuna acknowledging that other life perspectives are valid makes the story feel like it was all for something to me. It’s not about reaching that end goal that Gojo ultimately wanted in the long run. It’s simply a step in the right direction. And I think that for a story like JJK that wanted to keep its scope smaller, that’s a pretty good note to leave off on.
Speaking as one of the morons who enjoyed JJK myself (I'm being playful here, not spiteful, I promise), the glaring lack of character interaction and arc resolution (and side character presence) has me seriously considering getting into writing/drawing fanfiction. I don't mean this in an arrogant "I can totally write the story better than the author can" way, but more so in a "I want to do my own version of this and fill in some of these blanks".
Of course I find it depressing that these blanks exist in the first place, but I'm guessing the grind of being a mangaka (which I hear is hell) eventually wears people down to the point where they just want to end their series as quickly as possible, which is really unfortunate. If that grind didn't exist and these stories were allowed to proceed organically with authors in healthy conditions the quality of storytelling might've even greatly improved, MHA's Heteromorph Arc for example probably could have gotten the build up and consequences that it deserved instead of "Be kind and prejudice will stop".
A boy can only dream.
At least we still have Chainsaw Man, and Hell's paradise still has a chance with S2 of its anime
Still waiting for the Chainsaw Man: Reze Movie.
Hope Mappa is still cooking for Csm and Hells paradise and why we havent gotten any news since the movie annoucement
bro woke up and decided to take a big dump on manga and anime industry (based)
what I've learned through this is that Kenjaku is diabetic. (great video)
😂😂
Just fwiw, "fridging" a character literally refers to killing them in a needless way, not just not using them for the rest of the series. Thank fuck Kirara didn't actually get fridged, though they did deserve better presence in the story.
That said, one of the only real critiques of your critique is that, as someone who took a long time to get out of the same mindset, Yuji never really viewed himself as a person, and as much as I'd have liked more explicit exploration of his exploration of those thoughts, Sukuna freeing himself was not only enabled by Yuji's sense of dehumanization but also took away the fate that had been preordained for him and sort of forced autonomy onto him. I spent a lot of time in the same mindset of not really feeling like a person in my own life and focusing strictly on the people I care about without realizing how much my self loathing was negatively impacting them because I sort of ruled myself out as even being worth caring about. Maybe I am just doing Gege's thinking for him but Yuji really clicked with me as a protagonist by the end of the story because, frankly, I've also come to feel empathy towards people who have enacted horrible violence on people I care about. Hell I'm almost positive I'm projecting this onto the story, but thats the fucked up thing about feelings is you don't really get to pick what you feel, and Sorcery Fight getting a relatively happy ending felt like a good fit in my eyes. I wish it wasn't as rushed sure but fuck it the emotional manipulation worked on me because I was so invested on such an unsually, deeply personal level.
you were probably one of the only ones who understood what the ending actually meant
What did exactly Kirara do in the story
@@GrimplaceGrace what the
God bless you ❤️👍✝️
Hey, MHA is first, consistent, and it does , yeah the league of villains even if they have a point that actually is heard and has an impact, they still are tragic monster, like toga dying showing how really useful she could have been doing something she loves, is the best she can want there? And she has an impact that ochako changes stuff that many others dontr happen that.
And he does not have to , most of that criticism doesnt matter to what the story is. Its still a solid story nd a decent end, if rushed. And consistent. MHA is fine, and sorry MHA is a shounen and shounen, can be cheesy.
And no MHA is fine, it never is too overly dark or edgy, and a shounen, and, can be.
Toga became a monster, shigaraki, a monster, spinner lived and twist also , understandable, that all are very tragic characters and they get dignity at the end, but they still are murderous monster, that dont deserve a happy end, why would they, they deserve dignity which, they actually get, and being heard.
MHA is a lot cheesy comic to counter and, yeah thats a shouneny shounen.
And jujutsu kaisen is, its not it tries way too hard to be subversive and dark and serious and edgy and, thats why its ending is so awful, because its the most cheesy one piece undoing deaths. Thats the beetrayal, MHA never does that. And it never was about going in the dark weeds of the darks of society, thats unfair criticism. It was always cheesy wit hsome agnowledging the darker side.
Sonic unleashed music oh my fire
whats the point of seaction 1 🙄
I say it in the first 5 seconds
I was trying to make the connection as to what they were getting at lol like I understand Japanese mangaka are f in the head, I mean look at Fujimoto, has done some weird sht great mangas and fortunately not as terrible like others who have physically hurt people but what about it, these people tend to write some of the best stories. That still doesn't make them any better tho, I just thought it goes without saying 😅
2:35 dlicker goon mentioned
I feel as if Gege wanted to do so much more with all the setup they did, but just couldn't pull through. Gege probably was just really exhausted. Hopefully in their next series they'll be better prepared or be able to take more breaks.
On EVERYONES soul we will be seated for Gege's next work.
JJK was definitely never setting itself up to be a long series. I always loved how gege never felt the need to expand on certain things that another series would have spent entire arcs on. But I will definitely be looking out for his next work, even if it is just oshi no Kaisen.
12:30 Gojo not getting a burial and his students seemingly not caring is purposeful, its meant to show us what Todo talked about during Shibuya how sorcerers can't look back at those dead and need to keep moving on as sorcerers for they have a purpose in the world that can't be limited to such misfortunes. This is further expressed through Yuji's cog mentality, he's fallen into the toxic mentality of the society and now doesn't care about himself, something Gojo and Sukuna, the main rule breakers and disrupters of the society push for. I think you're looking at it in a distasteful way honestly, the cog mentality is meant to show the toxic control a society can have on their members, Yuji is brainwashed and you're hitting on it my guy, you just don't fw it? What's more, I think Gege's blatantly showing us that yeah Gojo and Sukuna, the only two capable of pushing against the society didn't actually have the effect they were meant to have. I ain't tryna say Gege some master writer but he wrote the ending with a happy ending but subtly (not so subtly) showed us the society still is toxic and the society likely won't change.
whats the intro music with jjk and mha edit 3:57
it's a remix of dragon road from the sonic unleashed project! ^^
@@sometimeselii hey thanks man great video by the way
i clicked in this video solely for the jujutsu critique/analysis but i ended up enjoying more the retrospective on the other mangas, great video
Theory crafting and leak culture are what tarnished JJK. I never elevated JJK beyond an entertaining battle manga with a well constructed power system, an easy story, and incredible fights. I loved the characters too. JJK isn't Shakespeare, but it has enough nuance and depth that warrants enough analysis to look beyond its surface. Not to say that the series is perfect or above critique, but the criticisms leveraged against JJK are mostly from people who wanted the story to be something other than what it is, or elevated it beyond the confines of what was presented. Was the ending amazing....no, but I was satisfied. To discount the journey towards the end, and all of the supreme highs of the narrative because the ending wasn't incredible, does a disservice to the work as a whole and JJK needs to be judged as whole, not nitpicked on a chapter by chapter basis like this community so often does.
This pretty much sums it up perfectly.
I mean if an author is gonna talk about a theme and complain that people actually engaged with it or criticize that it doesn’t do a good job exploring in depth then why even try to put the theme in the first place. Gege presented a lot of ideas but struggled to follow through on said ideas. That has nothing to do with it being a dumb fun fight manga. There were expectations set and not met.
It didn’t help that jjk fans kept theorycrafting like you said.
facts
3:24 THIS PART! 😤😤😤
Look if you like a anime thats simple and is not overly complicated in its writing ok...but dont act like this anime is literary gold.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 No senseless arguing or disrespecting each other's opinions and anime. If you want we can have a genuine quick convo. In the context of the video I will talk about Mha and jjk. My thoughts on both shows is that for the audience it's for its 100/10, they're great shows that should be respected in the entertainment space alongside fellow shows. The thing is they're not the cream of the crop and definitely not Oscar worthy.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 if it wasn't for the anime that are great being either to old to be relevant, not digestible for newer anime audiences to watch, and being buried beneath the hundreds of anime coming out every year. MHA AND JJK along with demon slayer would not be that big
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 ight you enjoy what you enjoy and I'll enjoy what i enjoy have a good day 👍
I don't like any shonen from recent years besides Mob Pyscho and AoT.
And I really don't understand how people watch AoT and think it's fascist and not anti-fascist.
I just can't wrap my head around it, esp when the nation the fascist leader reigned in is shown to be razed to the ground in the final moments of the show.
I just feel like people who still parrot this view watch the show and read the manga with bad faith and confirmation bias mixed selective hearing, ignoring the majority of the characters and plot points-like the war criminal Gross or the entire spreads depicting the horror of genocide.
You’re most likely correct. Some people view something through the lens of wanting to find a problem with it. If you want to find a problem, you’ll always find one. Doesn’t matter what it is.
Because Isayama had shitty writing in the end . When your story doesn't show that the fascist character ( Floch) was wrong it is a problem . The manga always was anti fascist but the problem is the writing
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo bro what
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo I feel like people want the author to spell things out , like have some speech where they declare Floch as Bad.
If I wanted to nit pick, I don't appreciate how the anime glamorized his self sacrifice to destroy the ship before he died. I think more can be gleamed from his characterization than "He must be good, because he was not declared bad enough by the characters within the story."
Also want to point out when he shot someone and gave a creepy smile or all the other horrible things he did that depict him as not the good guy.
@@ConstantinDOSSOU-vy1zo Floch stood on business- his motivation was to protect his own people. It's sympathetic, but at the same time it's obvious Floch's solution- to meat ride Eren to global genocide- was wrong. Isayama didn't have to spell it out any more than he already did.
I’m so done with modern Japanese stories. Good video.
I mean maybe write off modern Shonen, but saying you're done with modern Japanese stories over the subjects of this video is like saying you're giving up on modern American stories because of Marvel Movies (and I guess maybe Game of Thrones for the passing mention of Berserk early on).
@@TheSteakJusticeThere’s no courage anymore to be found in these modern anime and manga. I’m an Osamu Tezuka fan btw.
@@bryanc7094Yes, they are all too obsessed about the status quo. They don't question anything anymore.
@@mittag983Facts.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💯💯💯 KEEP THIS UP! Recently found you and seen a few vids, and i wanna say thank you. More people need to speak up about the bullcrap in the anime community nowadays.
I love your vids keep hating on anime jk😁
JJK was the only story were the first and second half are so different in quality I consider them different stories
yeah, the first half was decent, but nothing too special, and the second half was far more creative and far more artiscally interesting.
nice vid
Sukuna carried jjk
I have found new respect for oshitokosa dude is so based
Read better manga watch better anime they are out there, watch Fullmetal Alchemist and Gurren Lagann.
already have!
I don’t care about bleach, black clover, or my hero academia enough to defend them, but all of the stuff in this video to call JJK problematic is dumb to me. Some subjectivity, neutrality, and nihilism in a story is dope. At the end of the day, the characters are striving for a better world in both jujutsu society and the world as a whole. A world where a Gojo wouldn’t be needed is a world without curses. The characters have not reached that goal yet, as it’s borderline impossible, but it was Gojo’s long term goal. The jujutsu sorceress do have to “lock in” to make it happen. I don’t think that jujutsu Kaisen has a bunch of conflicting narratives. It has several different narratives that can co-exist. I feel that your overall conclusion on JJK requires a bit of reaching to come to, almost as if you viewed the story through the lens of needing to find some deep rooted problematic undertones.
The story sucked because there were so many set ups with no pay off. That's it
@ not that many set ups to things that didn’t happen or that needed expanding on
Calling manga writers weird is like calling grass green. It's nothing new. Heck, plenty of writers are weird people if you look into the stuff they write about. Stephen King is the first example i can think of.
9:43 EXACTLY. Why even try writing tough situations when the writer doesn’t want to expand on them.
The goat has returned
lol what is this- social justice warrior content in 2024?
Bro, you're having a hard time with the anime community cos you have no chill- you begin with assumptions that everything is "problematic" from your Jewish cultural Marxist lens and that distorts everything when you try to analyze it.
I understand the criticisms of JJK. When I read it I found it striking at how fast-paced the show was; it was intentional on the author's part to prioritize fights over character development/interaction. There are people who defend the story, cos Gege does shoe-horn in enough thematic material to make the story coherent, but it is the bare minimum.
were the second and first half written by the same person???😭😭
Jjk was trash off ep 1 but throwing mha and black clover in the mix just smooth brain
jujutsu kaisen's ending was peak and nothing's changing my mind
You know you can like something and or call it good without throwing the word "peak" at everything, right? 💀
@@nomoo519 but i thought it was peak tho
@@nomoo519bro thought it was peak bro leave bro alone :(
You gotta explain the racism of Bleach more. I get some bad/goofy designs for some villains but Bleach made a natural effort to include different nationalities and ethnicities not common in anime. Personally most of the coolest Black Anime character designs are solely from Bleach especially with Lille and Tousen.
Overall I agree with your points about manga authors though
Finally someone who gets it.
You got discord?