A true horror story! Thankfully the butchery was found & ‘rectified’ before an issue surfaced. Good old Ebenezer Slick for providing the long term solution. We can now relax & hopefully all enjoy a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Have a good un, James, looking forward to next year’s offerings.
Very informative video James, you have always stated plug & play way to go. Glad Richard is able to have a better Christmas knowing his bike is redeemed from the horror story you highlighted. Happy Christmas to everyone 👍
That Dealership sounds Dodgy or Incompetent.You could send away to India for a Rectifier Regulator in 2-3weeks.His bike in the shop for 2weeks.Glad it worked out & sorted especially for holiday sesson.Funny how original block connector was tucked away.
We don't seem to have these rectifier/regulator problems much in Australia. Perhaps it's something to do with your appalling damp conditions? My interceptor goes out in the rain but no problems yet. I have encountered poor service from dealers for all of my 50 years riding. They lie, fail to deliver and display great incompetence. As a skilled tradesman toolmaker, I have always done my own service and repairs as I am the only mechanic I can trust. My enfield has never been back to the dealer since purchase any problems, I'll fix it myself thanks. Have a great Xmas and holiday season, thanks for the channel.
@@brianmcleod4815 in fact, you do! I’ve sent at least 50 re-location kits to Oz and NZ, usually in response to burned out RR’s. I’ve received many emails from your compatriots about this exact problem,
And I thought I had been worked over by a Greek Enfield dealer! At least they didn't go straight to the battery. Good old Ebenezer saved the day with the extension leads and correct plugs. 20,000 miles later still good! Merry Christmas all.
Thoroughly enjoyed that story James. A very Merry Christmas to you and yours. Very tempting to name (and shame) the dealer and their 'mechanic'. Makes me wonder what the RE Warranty is worth as I've come across a few horror stories usually relating to the MotoGB years. Will RE be better? This story concerns a dealer of course - how much better had they done the job properly in the first place.
@@richardmarshall9309 lol. A bit of fun. The owner of the bike is relieved he can get it back to normal! Nobody so far has picked up on the “a warning to the curious”….the title of a BBC ‘ghost story for christmas’………. Lol
The Channel you refer to is Old School ADV Rider, I for one WILL listen to anything he has to say and find his technical knowledge and mechanical prowess quite a refreshing oasis of sanity in the sand dunes of RUclips B/S. Anyway pleased you have it sorted to your satisfaction 👍
Yes, the more info that’s out there, the better. That’s not where I saw the cutting of the wires on the OEM wiring harness though. I’m not a devotee of damaging OEM wiring harnesses….I’ve seen such a lot of it on the renovations I’ve done but..horses for courses, as they say
Lovely bikes but this is not the first time on U Tube that a 'main dealer' representing RE lets the team down. Thinking of changing my bike next year but will stick with Honda, can't afford horror stories anytime of the year never mind Chrisrmas. Yes a happy ending but really in 2024 from a main dealer (or any other for that matter)?
Yes, the RE is a budget-friendly bike. It’s very open to improvement with better components and it doesn’t cost much to do. Love the bike as I do, it’s not in the same league as a Japanese, to be perfectly honest about it. But then it’s much less costly and it has been fun tweaking mine and improving it.
I went with 25 year old HD with 7 previous owners. The idea of a few wires is very appealing. I wouldn't know where to start apart from it was given a 12 month mot and described as excellent condition with a full service history. I figured it would take 2 years and £3k to sort, halfway there and looking realistic. We all have our own standards, which can be a long way apart. Didn't think to ask if there were threads in the sump for the drain plug and they forgot to mention it. The list is 4 pages so I'll leave it there. Didn't find anything painted gold but I haven't taken the cylinder heads off so there is still time.
Didn't follow your comment about the engine sump plug, however, I own 2 HD Ironheads and have only tried to undo one of them. It stripped the thread...so retapped it and put oversize plug in with liquid metal (I had earlier drilled n tapped the plug for a small bolt in case i need to check for metal flakes) and now leave them alone. Oil change is by running them until warm, undoing the return from the tank, running bike until tank gets to about a quarter full, then putting in fresh oil slowly until clean oil comes out of the return pipe. Turn off engine and fill tank to correct level. There are quite a few comments around about not touching sump plug....hope this may be of interest....
@kelvinbolton9395 it's a twin cam dyna without an oil tank. I made a 13.2mm 20 tpi tap and matching plug with a magnet from EN8. The correct fix is to replace the sump and don't let anyone touch it that doesn't know how expensive cheap is. The correct size viton O ring, not a bag of silicone allsorts.
@@theodavies8754 sorry.....wasn't trying to be a smart arse dude...it's just an easy mistake to make n it appears not everyone knows....sounds like you're sorted though..my Ironheads are a 1975 and 1984 n they throw up lots of interesting problems due to age and previous owners.....ho hum....
@@kelvinbolton9395 no worries, the UK is full of people who think Harley can't make a hex head that fits any of their metric Allen keys. I have a factory WS manual and a diploma in horology. If Honda made a Harley it would be like my 1999 FXDL. I had a 1995 evo FXDL but I couldn't make it fit in with family life. I bought a new 883 hugger in 1988 but the tank range didn't work out.
Now imagine the owner had zero technical acumen or confidence / ability to enquire. They'd be totally screwed. We tend assume dealers are on our side at our peril.
hmm.. current royal enfield products are tempting but not yet fully tried and tested i suppose, i had an afternoon's test ride of the 650 cafe racer version, what surprised me is how easily the rev pointer touched into the red zone, japanese bikes i have owned go nowhere near that area on a daily basis.
@@internetpolification yes, although i wouldn't say that i was a spirited rider particularly - i spoke to an owner about this, he changed the pipes so get more of a feel for gear change necessity. the thing is i wouldn't want to be watching guages on standard uk roads/limits and that put me off.
You’d get the feel of it. Red-lining is easier in the lower gears, of course. It’s just a question of getting used to it. When I red-lined once by accident in first, I felt there was a rev limiter there to stop engine destruction…….
I will sell mine! Its broken in the dealer, and no time to fixe it. Im ged up. I will sell it and move to kawasaki. Royall enfield: you pay fou what you get! Never more!
@@jf300car6 what is actually broken? It would be very useful for everyone to know. By all accounts the engines themselves are pretty much bullet-proof. And I heard they were used on a drag strip and really hammered, without any problems. Without doubt the Royal Enfields do have a number ‘issues’ and I get your point. The main ones are 1. Burning out rectifiers due to the OEM daft position 2. poor quality electrical relays 3.speedometer wires fracturing due the hard plastic used, causing a fluctuating speedo needle or no speedo at all (it’s a £4 fix to replace the cable with something better), 4. Basic suspension 5. Poor finish on metal parts like brackets, wire guides. 6. Thin chromed parts. 7. A cheap and nasty EVAP system which in my case made me just about sell the bike as it wouldn’t start reliably. All cured once the Evap was ditched 8. Needs the fuel booster plug to even out low speed running 9. Sometimes ugly welds on the OEM exhaust system which is also very heavy indeed. 10. Not the best quality OEM brake pads. 11. Uncomfortable OEM seat 12. Poor quality switchgear. On the plus side…..the bike has ABS, a six speed gearbox, stainless spokes and alloy rims, EFI, a slipper clutch, excellent fuel consumption, fun to ride (although, in your case, you’re not riding it….you have my sympathy), allegedly bulletproof engine (there are examples that have done 50,000+ trouble-free miles). Braided stainless brake hoses. And…..as you’ve commented…it’s not an expensive bike. And it is a nice, fun ride! I receive lots of emails from people all over the world and, apart from the dreaded RR problem, people have covered tens of thousands of miles without major issues. But I do get your point. I have a 25 year old Honda Pan-European ST1100 and the build quality, engineering, ABS, traction control, design, power and reliability are superior to a modern RE, love them as I do. One has to be realistic. They’re a ‘budget’ bike…..but about £750 sorts everything out permanently, so it’s still a bike for under £6,000. That’s a price point that is unachievable from a Japanese manufacturer. I suppose time will tell re the longevity of the RE’s. Please do share what’s wrong with your bike….it all adds to the collective knowledge base….. and commiserations on your bike being out of action!
@@internetpolification The engine is bullet proof? Not really. Bought my INT in summer with 350 kilometers from my local dealer. At the first tour my comrade told me that one pipe smokes heavily, the other not. Went to the dealer to inspection - no troubles found. After a longer tour to France the exhaust end was completely black on one side. The dealer checked compression: minus 2 bar at the right cylinder. They opened it and there was a crack in ths cylinder head. Then they waited for spare parts over two months. Finally after 13 weeks I got the repaired bike back. They had replaced head, cylinder and pistons. Conclusion: the plant is bad, the austrian importer is bad, the dealer is bad ... not sure if I keep the bike.
@ that’s interesting info to add to the mix. They’ve sold a lot of these bikes though, so maybe yours is the exception and not the rule, as it were? Either way, it’s an unfortunate experience, that’s for sure, and doesn’t engender confidence. I did see one example of an oil leak through the cylinder casting which was porous somehow.
@@internetpolification Maybe I had bad luck with this special bike ... nevertheless: Cracks in moulded alloy parts like cylinder heads don't fit to the image of 'well made', RE tries to provide. But that can happen. The ugliest part was the dealing with the problem: the workshop waited 4 weeks before starting to work at the bike, then waited another six weeks for the cylinder gasket and finally 1 week for another one. This shows that the aftermarket situation is as worse as it could be, especially as the twin is the main platform for Europe and USA. Such a heavy mistake at a brand new bike should provide a customer friendly reaction and not humbling around in snail speed between dealer and importer (KSR). But instead of improving the spare part situation, RE throw out 3-4 new model variants every year. If you ride a RE, enjoy it - but pray that there are no defects.
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A true horror story! Thankfully the butchery was found & ‘rectified’ before an issue surfaced. Good old Ebenezer Slick for providing the long term solution. We can now relax & hopefully all enjoy a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year. Have a good un, James, looking forward to next year’s offerings.
Well Ebenezer. That certainly could have been a horror story. So glad it had a happy ending. Wishing all a very happy Christmas.
Very informative video James, you have always stated plug & play way to go. Glad Richard is able to have a better Christmas knowing his bike is redeemed from the horror story you highlighted. Happy Christmas to everyone 👍
That Dealership sounds Dodgy or Incompetent.You could send away to India for a Rectifier Regulator in 2-3weeks.His bike in the shop for 2weeks.Glad it worked out & sorted especially for holiday sesson.Funny how original block connector was tucked away.
@@ruahinesrider at least they didn’t snip the 4 pin block off!
We don't seem to have these rectifier/regulator problems much in Australia. Perhaps it's something to do with your appalling damp conditions? My interceptor goes out in the rain but no problems yet.
I have encountered poor service from dealers for all of my 50 years riding. They lie, fail to deliver and display great incompetence. As a skilled tradesman toolmaker, I have always done my own service and repairs as I am the only mechanic I can trust.
My enfield has never been back to the dealer since purchase any problems, I'll fix it myself thanks.
Have a great Xmas and holiday season, thanks for the channel.
@@brianmcleod4815 in fact, you do! I’ve sent at least 50 re-location kits to Oz and NZ, usually in response to burned out RR’s. I’ve received many emails from your compatriots about this exact problem,
The location of the R/R unit collects more wet, gritty, oily crap than you'd think possible here in the UK at least.
@ it’s a worldwide problem……
And I thought I had been worked over by a Greek Enfield dealer! At least they didn't go straight to the battery. Good old Ebenezer saved the day with the extension leads and correct plugs. 20,000 miles later still good! Merry Christmas all.
@@stevegibson2620 lol. Great news re the mileage and all going well, Steve!
Courtesy of the dealership rather than Royal Enfield.
Happy Christmas James And a Many Mod New Year……
@@TheBlackbird46 love it!
Thoroughly enjoyed that story James. A very Merry Christmas to you and yours. Very tempting to name (and shame) the dealer and their 'mechanic'. Makes me wonder what the RE Warranty is worth as I've come across a few horror stories usually relating to the MotoGB years. Will RE be better? This story concerns a dealer of course - how much better had they done the job properly in the first place.
@@richardmarshall9309 lol. A bit of fun. The owner of the bike is relieved he can get it back to normal! Nobody so far has picked up on the “a warning to the curious”….the title of a BBC ‘ghost story for christmas’………. Lol
The Channel you refer to is Old School ADV Rider, I for one WILL listen to anything he has to say and find his technical knowledge and mechanical prowess quite a refreshing oasis of sanity in the sand dunes of RUclips B/S. Anyway pleased you have it sorted to your satisfaction 👍
Yes, the more info that’s out there, the better. That’s not where I saw the cutting of the wires on the OEM wiring harness though. I’m not a devotee of damaging OEM wiring harnesses….I’ve seen such a lot of it on the renovations I’ve done but..horses for courses, as they say
Lovely bikes but this is not the first time on U Tube that a 'main dealer' representing RE lets the team down. Thinking of changing my bike next year but will stick with Honda, can't afford horror stories anytime of the year never mind Chrisrmas. Yes a happy ending but really in 2024 from a main dealer (or any other for that matter)?
Yes, the RE is a budget-friendly bike. It’s very open to improvement with better components and it doesn’t cost much to do. Love the bike as I do, it’s not in the same league as a Japanese, to be perfectly honest about it. But then it’s much less costly and it has been fun tweaking mine and improving it.
I believe as of yesterday... the guy in Bulgaria, due to health issues... retired posting and all his bikes are for sale... 😎
@@motormikeb1047 that’s a shame. I’m sure I and everyone else wish him well.
I went with 25 year old HD with 7 previous owners.
The idea of a few wires is very appealing.
I wouldn't know where to start apart from it was given a 12 month mot and described as excellent condition with a full service history.
I figured it would take 2 years and £3k to sort, halfway there and looking realistic.
We all have our own standards, which can be a long way apart.
Didn't think to ask if there were threads in the sump for the drain plug and they forgot to mention it.
The list is 4 pages so I'll leave it there.
Didn't find anything painted gold but I haven't taken the cylinder heads off so there is still time.
Didn't follow your comment about the engine sump plug, however, I own 2 HD Ironheads and have only tried to undo one of them. It stripped the thread...so retapped it and put oversize plug in with liquid metal (I had earlier drilled n tapped the plug for a small bolt in case i need to check for metal flakes) and now leave them alone. Oil change is by running them until warm, undoing the return from the tank, running bike until tank gets to about a quarter full, then putting in fresh oil slowly until clean oil comes out of the return pipe. Turn off engine and fill tank to correct level. There are quite a few comments around about not touching sump plug....hope this may be of interest....
@kelvinbolton9395 it's a twin cam dyna without an oil tank.
I made a 13.2mm 20 tpi tap and matching plug with a magnet from EN8.
The correct fix is to replace the sump and don't let anyone touch it that doesn't know how expensive cheap is.
The correct size viton O ring, not a bag of silicone allsorts.
@@theodavies8754 sorry.....wasn't trying to be a smart arse dude...it's just an easy mistake to make n it appears not everyone knows....sounds like you're sorted though..my Ironheads are a 1975 and 1984 n they throw up lots of interesting problems due to age and previous owners.....ho hum....
@@kelvinbolton9395 no worries, the UK is full of people who think Harley can't make a hex head that fits any of their metric Allen keys.
I have a factory WS manual and a diploma in horology.
If Honda made a Harley it would be like my 1999 FXDL.
I had a 1995 evo FXDL but I couldn't make it fit in with family life.
I bought a new 883 hugger in 1988 but the tank range didn't work out.
Now imagine the owner had zero technical acumen or confidence / ability to enquire. They'd be totally screwed. We tend assume dealers are on our side at our peril.
Is the battery being charged now after the update or are Richard wishing a new battery for Christmas?
lol…… the fourth battery? No, apparently all is well!!
hmm.. current royal enfield products are tempting but not yet fully tried and tested i suppose, i had an afternoon's test ride of the 650 cafe racer version, what surprised me is how easily the rev pointer touched into the red zone, japanese bikes i have owned go nowhere near that area on a daily basis.
I suppose going into the red zone means time to change gear
@@internetpolification yes, although i wouldn't say that i was a spirited rider particularly - i spoke to an owner about this, he changed the pipes so get more of a feel for gear change necessity. the thing is i wouldn't want to be watching guages on standard uk roads/limits and that put me off.
You’d get the feel of it. Red-lining is easier in the lower gears, of course. It’s just a question of getting used to it. When I red-lined once by accident in first, I felt there was a rev limiter there to stop engine destruction…….
Thats a very poor show by the dealer , glad he's got it sorted , dosn't fill you with a lot of faith when you bye new and they pull a stunt like that
I must say, it doesn’t engender confidence!
name the dealer ,, or this is not helpful ; happy christmas ;;
Better not…….
@@internetpolification ok, best of luck ,
I will sell mine! Its broken in the dealer, and no time to fixe it. Im ged up. I will sell it and move to kawasaki.
Royall enfield: you pay fou what you get! Never more!
@@jf300car6 what is actually broken? It would be very useful for everyone to know. By all accounts the engines themselves are pretty much bullet-proof. And I heard they were used on a drag strip and really hammered, without any problems. Without doubt the Royal Enfields do have a number ‘issues’ and I get your point. The main ones are 1. Burning out rectifiers due to the OEM daft position 2. poor quality electrical relays 3.speedometer wires fracturing due the hard plastic used, causing a fluctuating speedo needle or no speedo at all (it’s a £4 fix to replace the cable with something better), 4. Basic suspension 5. Poor finish on metal parts like brackets, wire guides. 6. Thin chromed parts. 7. A cheap and nasty EVAP system which in my case made me just about sell the bike as it wouldn’t start reliably. All cured once the Evap was ditched 8. Needs the fuel booster plug to even out low speed running 9. Sometimes ugly welds on the OEM exhaust system which is also very heavy indeed. 10. Not the best quality OEM brake pads. 11. Uncomfortable OEM seat 12. Poor quality switchgear.
On the plus side…..the bike has ABS, a six speed gearbox, stainless spokes and alloy rims, EFI, a slipper clutch, excellent fuel consumption, fun to ride (although, in your case, you’re not riding it….you have my sympathy), allegedly bulletproof engine (there are examples that have done 50,000+ trouble-free miles). Braided stainless brake hoses. And…..as you’ve commented…it’s not an expensive bike. And it is a nice, fun ride! I receive lots of emails from people all over the world and, apart from the dreaded RR problem, people have covered tens of thousands of miles without major issues.
But I do get your point. I have a 25 year old Honda Pan-European ST1100 and the build quality, engineering, ABS, traction control, design, power and reliability are superior to a modern RE, love them as I do. One has to be realistic. They’re a ‘budget’ bike…..but about £750 sorts everything out permanently, so it’s still a bike for under £6,000. That’s a price point that is unachievable from a Japanese manufacturer. I suppose time will tell re the longevity of the RE’s.
Please do share what’s wrong with your bike….it all adds to the collective knowledge base….. and commiserations on your bike being out of action!
@@internetpolification The engine is bullet proof? Not really. Bought my INT in summer with 350 kilometers from my local dealer. At the first tour my comrade told me that one pipe smokes heavily, the other not. Went to the dealer to inspection - no troubles found. After a longer tour to France the exhaust end was completely black on one side. The dealer checked compression: minus 2 bar at the right cylinder. They opened it and there was a crack in ths cylinder head. Then they waited for spare parts over two months. Finally after 13 weeks I got the repaired bike back. They had replaced head, cylinder and pistons. Conclusion: the plant is bad, the austrian importer is bad, the dealer is bad ... not sure if I keep the bike.
@ that’s interesting info to add to the mix. They’ve sold a lot of these bikes though, so maybe yours is the exception and not the rule, as it were? Either way, it’s an unfortunate experience, that’s for sure, and doesn’t engender confidence. I did see one example of an oil leak through the cylinder casting which was porous somehow.
@@internetpolification Maybe I had bad luck with this special bike ... nevertheless: Cracks in moulded alloy parts like cylinder heads don't fit to the image of 'well made', RE tries to provide. But that can happen. The ugliest part was the dealing with the problem: the workshop waited 4 weeks before starting to work at the bike, then waited another six weeks for the cylinder gasket and finally 1 week for another one. This shows that the aftermarket situation is as worse as it could be, especially as the twin is the main platform for Europe and USA. Such a heavy mistake at a brand new bike should provide a customer friendly reaction and not humbling around in snail speed between dealer and importer (KSR). But instead of improving the spare part situation, RE throw out 3-4 new model variants every year. If you ride a RE, enjoy it - but pray that there are no defects.
@ all very valid points!