PERSONAL DEFENSE: Bear Spray vs Self Defense Pepper Spray

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

Комментарии • 138

  • @robertmurphy4573
    @robertmurphy4573 3 месяца назад +24

    Getting yourself threatened and having your life flash right before your eyes is enough to traumatize you for weeks and months and if not for years ahead. Whatever we can carry to stop that threat from taking our lives, like pepper spray, is 150 percent Worth It.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад +3

      @@robertmurphy4573 agreed 👍

    • @chaplainsoffice6907
      @chaplainsoffice6907 2 месяца назад +3

      I have used Frontier bear spray to stop two doberman's from attacking me while I was riding my 21 speed road bike.

    • @robertmurphy4573
      @robertmurphy4573 2 месяца назад

      @@chaplainsoffice6907 Yikes there!

    • @shaunblevins3303
      @shaunblevins3303 2 месяца назад +1

      @CMBBmc-jd6ur Smart one, always carry one in the Chamber. Cause nowadays Seconds Count and the next time you may not be so lucky.

    • @MoneyComethToshelia
      @MoneyComethToshelia 26 дней назад +1

      I have both! The world is crazy! 🐻

  • @Serenastar79
    @Serenastar79 2 месяца назад +11

    I'm being told in Ontario that I cannot carry or use such a spray on an attacker. I am being hurrassed by young adults, but cannot protect myself? Something is really wrong here.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад +3

      I have a friend in Canada, and he says he keeps wasp spray for self-defense.

    • @Serenastar79
      @Serenastar79 2 месяца назад

      ​@TRAVELINGCIVILIAN is considered effective and legal?

    • @sebastianbauer4768
      @sebastianbauer4768 Месяц назад

      Worlds crazy, people should be allowed to defend themselves. Far as I am concerned you’d be doing them a favour by using a spray vs pretty much any other method of defending yourself. You should look into walking canes if you’re a bit older, there are several legit martial arts around them. They also really work, at the end of the day a walking stick with a knob for a handle is pretty much just a mace, which is a legit weapon used in medieval times. My gramps had one with a metal spike at the end and a brass knob as a handle with the body made of heavy solid wood. I’d wager it would have done more damage than a baseball bat plus could be used for stabbing. Pretty crazy now I think of it.

    • @MoneyComethToshelia
      @MoneyComethToshelia 26 дней назад

      Protect yourself or become a victim. No one cares about you but you! 😠

    • @craigrogers2009
      @craigrogers2009 8 дней назад

      Use it anyway if you have a clean record your fucked.if your a criminal on probation with 84 charges done no time then you Can do whatever the Trudeau clan of bleeding hearts for criminals street Junkies

  • @sebastianbauer4768
    @sebastianbauer4768 Месяц назад +3

    Worth mentioning thats it’s quite easy to entirely miss your target with the tiny cans, not a whole lot of of it coming out either. The big mace you can totally hose a person or two down, guaranteed hit in the eyes even with glasses on. As far as I am concerned you have to either get the eyes or get the stuff into nose/mouth as the target breathes in, preferably both. A lot of weaker stuff hitting all three is preferable compared to the strong stuff going past the guys ear cause you’re panicking/dodging a knife.

  • @2rawentertainment313
    @2rawentertainment313 5 месяцев назад +16

    Sabre Pepper Gel Is What I Got And It Works VERY GOOD

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  5 месяцев назад +1

      Love all there products

    • @robertmurphy4573
      @robertmurphy4573 3 месяца назад

      I just bought one too. A small one.

    • @williamkelly7743
      @williamkelly7743 2 месяца назад

      Me too ✌️

    • @ILoveGod77
      @ILoveGod77 2 месяца назад +1

      Always used gel…back spray is not cool…I’m trying to hurt the attacker not myself

    • @church0in0runescape
      @church0in0runescape Месяц назад +2

      ​@@ILoveGod77I used normal Walmart pepper spray one time after getting jumped. I was kicked in the face and my eyes were swelling, the back spray made it 100x worse and I was unable to open either of my eyes after only 30 seconds lol

  • @ronkostars4258
    @ronkostars4258 3 месяца назад +9

    This Sabre Red Pepper Spray contains 10% Oleoresin Capsicum (OC) as mentioned, and 1.33% Major Capsaicinoids, a more accurate measurement of a pepper sprays potency and effectiveness.

  • @royperkins3507
    @royperkins3507 5 месяцев назад +12

    I'm a veteran of 2 different branches of the military. Both the Air Force and the Army. I took many years of martial arts.. I'm a truck driver.. Consider using a tool you can justify caring with you because of your career.. When i'm working I always carry a tire thumper.. A police officer would call it at night stick.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  5 месяцев назад +1

      Great advice

    • @sebastianbauer4768
      @sebastianbauer4768 Месяц назад

      I think I’d prefer the bear spray vs an actual bear though. Sounds metal AF though repelling a bear with a tire thumper, if you can do that your one unit of a dude and probably don’t have to worry much about people

  • @hpolich1042
    @hpolich1042 3 месяца назад +5

    This was useful information, thanks for posting it!

  • @Redbaron3314733
    @Redbaron3314733 2 месяца назад +4

    What a great assessment, thanks so much! I've often wondered about this, especially when I was purchasing the same Sabre product you carry. I opted for the Sabre for the same reasons. I'm over 65 and more worried about the animals that walk upright! I also keep a larger can in the car, along with a reputable 26" telescoping baton (e.g. ASP). I do live in a "shall issue" CCW state; but, I'd rather use non-lethal methods and not have to pay for an attorney. And all of us should avoid the stop-and-rob 24/7 convenient store at 2am!

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад

      So true .... stay away from locations of danger.

  • @12MinuteStudios
    @12MinuteStudios 11 дней назад +1

    I prefer the large b ear spray because in the heat of the moment aiming at the face could be an issue.. that tiny can is not the best choice even if it's less..

  • @stacywilliams1710
    @stacywilliams1710 2 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for the information Sir.

  • @davidleeroth1968
    @davidleeroth1968 2 месяца назад +2

    we walk 5 large dogs daily and we carry bear spray specifically because it comes out as a fog…we’ve had problems with loose dogs and it is very effective at keeping them away…but we choose other oc for people

  • @paulgrice5013
    @paulgrice5013 22 часа назад

    What does a air horn do

  • @mj6866
    @mj6866 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for posting this very interesting and informative video.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed it. New video coming out this week.

  • @Lemmon714_
    @Lemmon714_ 2 месяца назад +5

    I carry wasp/hornet spray in my truck. It reaches 25ft and blinds you

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад +2

      That is a great idea!

    • @rickace132
      @rickace132 2 месяца назад +2

      Isn't it illegal to poison someone? Carry pepper spray, just in case.

    • @mikeogden5256
      @mikeogden5256 2 месяца назад +1

      Na if you’re in danger a hammer is legal… lol my wife has had a violent scary homeless man run up into her office demanding coffee or snacks … police recommended wasp spray for what ever reason

    • @Lemmon714_
      @Lemmon714_ 2 месяца назад

      @@rickace132 I am a long time local truck driver and decided to try out running the east coast in 1998. I carried a butane mini torch and a can of hairspray for those three months. If I ever sprayed someone with it, I would just tell them that I noticed a nest under the cab the day before so I brought the spray to get them. That's why I just happened to have it with me.

    • @lexiemiller7783
      @lexiemiller7783 2 месяца назад +2

      Is it temperary blindness?

  • @sunomono2307
    @sunomono2307 28 дней назад

    Just curious, Sabre Red spray has 1.33% capsaicinoids and Sabre bear spray 2% capsaicinoids. What made you conclude that Sabre Red is stronger? Did you get hit the bear spray directly in the face just the way you tested the Red one?

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  28 дней назад +1

      I did not get sprayed in the face with the bear spray .... just walked through the fog from the spray

    • @sunomono2307
      @sunomono2307 24 дня назад

      @ Thanks for the reply!

  • @nathanielerskine1875
    @nathanielerskine1875 3 месяца назад +2

    I carry a firearm, but these options might be nearly as effective, a good alternative, or in many cases, maybe even more effective. I bought a large can of the Bear Spray to keep handy, and I want to get some smaller, more portable options for loved ones.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      A firearm is not always the best choice esp. in crowds. Having all 3 available is the best option. Thanks for watching.

  • @seascape35
    @seascape35 Месяц назад

    I wonder if it the sprays are legal in New York City or Philadelphia?

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  Месяц назад

      I would check your local laws.

    • @seascape35
      @seascape35 Месяц назад

      @@TRAVELINGCIVILIAN I will need to check, since I visit both cities, and consider both risky places.

  • @mmagscott
    @mmagscott 2 месяца назад

    When shopping for Sabre bear spray and the smaller pepper spray for use on people Sabre claims that the bear spray is 2.0% , while the spray for people is 1.3%. The spray that my sheriffs department issues me is listed at 1.3 % not sure where i can get that 10% stuff.

  • @thecoolfella
    @thecoolfella 2 месяца назад

    @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN, et al. - Do these sprays expire? Efficacy of potency decrease over time?

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад

      They do expire ... mine have a self life of 4 yrs.

  • @williesnyder2899
    @williesnyder2899 3 месяца назад +1

    What about the tiny can of dog spray that a Postal Carrier might have on their bag?
    Where does that product fall in the spectrum??
    Thanks!

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      Usually the dog spray has the lowest level of OC.

    • @JoaoVictor-nl5gp
      @JoaoVictor-nl5gp Месяц назад

      Dog spray is not nearly as effective against humans as regular pepper spray due to lower major capsaicinoids percentage and OC concentration.

  • @harleyjames5002
    @harleyjames5002 25 дней назад

    Thank You Sir!

  • @criswellpictures
    @criswellpictures Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video man

  • @tmaddaloni
    @tmaddaloni Месяц назад

    What’s the effective range of the Saber Red spray?

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  Месяц назад

      3 to 5 feet ... but will work a little further away ....

  • @better_than_nothing
    @better_than_nothing 11 дней назад

    For the record, it's illegal to use bear spray on human beings. I'm also in law enforcement and literally just finished my yearly OC spray certification yesterday. We had a master instructor from Sabre. Sabre Red is 1.33% major capsaicinoids while Sabre bear spray is 2% major capsaicinoids per the Sabre master instructor. We were quizzed on this.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  8 дней назад

      Thanks for the additional information. Thank you for your service.

  • @SanchezThaMexican
    @SanchezThaMexican 3 месяца назад +2

    I carry a Yukon Magnum Bear Mace 325g, for home defense, 🏡 it's more effective then pepper sprays

  • @JacobWilkins-fk1jr
    @JacobWilkins-fk1jr 3 месяца назад +2

    I Carry sabre 3 in 1 defense spray

  • @sstritmatter2158
    @sstritmatter2158 2 месяца назад +1

    Good to know. Even though the bear repellent is only 2% I am wondering if the volume of it may make up for the weaker content. I saw a video where a druggie was robbing a pharmacy and someone used bear spray (why they had that there and then I never found out) on the subject and he fled in pain fast. Just the same, I'd stick with the Sabre red (or preferred brand) as it is intended dealing with people. I carry a sidearm and pepper spray for in town. I'd prefer the pepper spray but have a firearm in case the situation called for that. As for the middle of nowhere (especially in black bear country where I go), I do have bear repellant but also a Redhawk .44 mag. Same situation as town, but bigger tools for more powerful creatures, and a .44 mag works just as well on bipeds, though not the primary reason I bought it. Anyway, that's what I do and good video.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад +2

      I have been sprayed with both and they both seem to work good enough.

  • @larryk3986
    @larryk3986 3 месяца назад +1

    Does the pepper spray get old and weakened?

    • @ronkostars4258
      @ronkostars4258 3 месяца назад

      Pepper spray does weaken with age, but it's the pressurized cylinders that usually fail before the pepper strength is ineffective, thus the 2 to 5 year shelf life on most pepper sprays.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes, they all have expiration dates

  • @AsTheKeyTurns
    @AsTheKeyTurns 2 месяца назад

    Why not carry under LEOSA like I do. In addition to the spray.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад

      My department makes me qualify at our range and I no longer live in that state.Additionally, they only open up qualifying to retired officers on one day per year.

  • @Jackknife1951
    @Jackknife1951 2 месяца назад

    👍👍👍
    I'm so glad I found this channel this morning. Good advise forgets of people. My wife always has her can of pepper with her, and I carry it on occasion. There's lots of places where you just can't carry a gun or knife, and do you really want to go that route if you don't have to?? Making holes in one side of someone and out the other is going to be a legal mess anyway you do it. Why not try non lethal means first? Pepper spray is a great tool for everyday carry, and will solve most problems. Back it up with a sturdy metal pen, or a box cutter and you're good to go.
    I will admit to being an inner city kid with teenage gang activity in my youth, and was on the opposite side of the law from you. many times growing up. I've been Maced, (1960's) and cut in a knife fight that took place when I used a knife to defend myself. I'll take being sprayed with pepper spray anyway, it saves the stitches and police questioning. I only thank God I had an Uncle, that when my single working class mother couldn't handle me, come up and put a boot in my butt and bounce me off a few walls, and give me a choice of Army, Navy, Marines or Air Force. I took army and got new mentors like Sargent First Class Mouton who did a great job of straitening me out. Back then they had something called Parilizer brand CS tear gas. It worked great as well, and was a lot easier. The modern pepper spray is a step up I understand.
    When I retired, the wife and I took a month long trip around the country. We hit Yellowstone in early May and parts of it was not plowed out yet. We learned that we had just missed a bear attack a few days earlier. A tourist couple from New Jersey were walking on a trail not far from their lodge, when they were attacked by a grizzly bear. The man jumped infront of his wife and the bear grabbed him, The wife, a good Newark urban dweller grabbed the pepper spray out of her jacket pocket, sprayed the bear right in the face, the bear let go of the husband and ran off bellowing his rage to the world. Husband had light injuries and some stitches, but was released from the hospital the next day. Saved by a little can of pepper spray they were used to carrying back home in Newark New Jersey. A .357 would not have worked as good in that case.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад

      I am glad you found the channel. Hope you like my other videos too. Glad you missed the bear attack!

  • @JR-vs1zl
    @JR-vs1zl 3 месяца назад +1

    Can you buy and keep the police strength 180,000 heat unit, in the home only?

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      I don't think so ... however I have seen expired police oc at a few Army Navy Stores ... you might check ones in your area

    • @hungsolow7090
      @hungsolow7090 2 месяца назад

      ​@@TRAVELINGCIVILIANregular spray is very effective why the police strenghth as if thier safety is more important

  • @senisevmek1993
    @senisevmek1993 2 месяца назад +1

    summary
    we should get a pepper spray with more weight :)

  • @seascape35
    @seascape35 Месяц назад

    I have a small canister of tear gas spray made by the Qualco company in NJ. Is this effective and recommended?
    Or, should I switch to one of the pepper sprays? Thanks for any comments.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  Месяц назад

      I would check for an expiration date. I would think the a new can of pepper spray would be better. It is very cost effective.

    • @seascape35
      @seascape35 Месяц назад

      @@TRAVELINGCIVILIAN Thank you.

  • @olddog103
    @olddog103 2 месяца назад

    WASP SPRAY WORKS VERY WELL, CARRY ONE IN VECH
    AND 2 NEAR THE FRONT DOOR NO PROB WITH LAW..

  • @Krepuff
    @Krepuff 3 месяца назад +2

    Fox labs mean green is what I carry

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      I will have to check on them.

    • @AceCorr
      @AceCorr 2 месяца назад

      I am pretty sure FOX Mean Green is stronger than Sabre Red. However, you should upgrade. I carry FOX 1.4 (strongest pepper spray by Fox Labs). It could be the strongest pepper spray on the market.

  • @MarcMallary
    @MarcMallary 3 месяца назад

    I didn't know you had to be certified. Anyone can just buy it.
    I bought OC spray after a half hour fight with a German shepard.
    I had encounters on the street with a guy trying to push me and my bicycle, in front of a car.
    Luckily I stopped just in time so I could have punched him.
    Less then a week later I saw a picture, in the paper of him and another guy being arrested for an atempted home invasion robbery, where 4 guys pistol whipped a woman, in her home.

  • @Trip6ixxandBlixx
    @Trip6ixxandBlixx Месяц назад

    Not sure where you were a police officer, when you retired, but there are some holes in your theory.
    I would never suggest bear spray to anyone for any reason. Pepper spray (even LE grade) is legal in all 50 states for civilians.
    OC spray (pepper spray) not only comes in different sizes like, but different delivery methods. There is spray, gel, foam, and fog.
    As situations dictate what spray is appropriate. For LE purposes, I carry a MK-4 size OC gel, and for crowd mitigation, an MK-9 size OC spray or fog that is inside my shop.

  • @bakman52
    @bakman52 2 месяца назад

    And keep in mind that in many states it's illegal to use bear spray on a human

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад +2

      I understand that ... but in a self-defense situation I feel good about taking my chances.

  • @m9078jk3
    @m9078jk3 2 месяца назад

    Neither are effective against a determined attacker. I know from experience. I grow,harvest and process lots of very hot peppers and they just make me sneeze or irritate my eyes I would chose a large caliber marker/launcher /paintball gun like a Byrna gun or other brand that also gives much better range instead.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад +2

      Those are effective, just harder to conceal than a small pepper spray

    • @m9078jk3
      @m9078jk3 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TRAVELINGCIVILIAN I have personally used both against unprovoked attackers as a Senior and have been beaten and robbed several times afterwards (Not good for a mid 60's heart patient). They didn't stop the attack at all but they probably suffered a bit from the spray. I was almost killed and in the hospital from one attack in 2019 by a homeless 29 year old schizophrenic lunatic on a walk to pay my property taxes at a nearby County Office unarmed. I got attacked by him on the property of a U.S. Post Office and there were several witnesses so the assailant was apprehended. I had several internal injuries but the lesson that I greatly learned is that my life is more important than any stupid law and to always be armed with an effective weapon legal or not. My motto is No right of Life then no law of any tyranny is respected. They can throw me in jail for protecting my life but afterwards I will retaliate against that tyranny many multiple times over until that tyranny is happily and justly overthrown.

  • @billybeavers6203
    @billybeavers6203 3 месяца назад +3

    I thought bear spray in most states is against the law to use on humans...however if it's a matter of life or death I would take my chances in court..

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly

    • @nathanielerskine1875
      @nathanielerskine1875 3 месяца назад

      I just bought a can of Bear Spray for myself to keep handy. That's also my opinion.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  3 месяца назад

      @nathanielerskine1875 I keep one in the Jeep and one in the motorhome ... you can never be to careful!

  • @Chubbyguycustomz
    @Chubbyguycustomz Месяц назад

    You're covered by leosa you can carry a firearm in all 50 states. I'm kinda confused why you wouldn't take advantage of that. Keep the hot sauce for you wife to use and you carry..

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  Месяц назад

      My home department want give retired officers the paperwork unless you qualify at the department range. Retired officers only get one day a year to qualify. I currently do not live in the area of my old department.

  • @montizzlefoshizzle7131
    @montizzlefoshizzle7131 Месяц назад

    Pepper spray, pocket blade, and a Gamo pt-80 pellet pistol is what I carry on me. Ppl think that won't work but trying to fight off the spray while being hit with hornet pellets at 400+ fps is like being attacked by a bunch of angry wasp. That's vicious and you'll get away.

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  Месяц назад +1

      Sounds like you have put together a good plan.

    • @montizzlefoshizzle7131
      @montizzlefoshizzle7131 Месяц назад

      @@TRAVELINGCIVILIAN no not really, I had an encounter not to long ago but my heart was too soft to actually follow through. I told the guy God loves him🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @al-ww5jp
    @al-ww5jp 2 месяца назад +1

    Retired tyrant huh😂

  • @stephanegregoire8738
    @stephanegregoire8738 2 месяца назад

    2:49 that pearl of wisdom

  • @silaslongshot941
    @silaslongshot941 3 месяца назад

    Naturally, when the govt gets involved with anything they phuck it up totally. So the bear spray which should be strong enough to knock the bark off a pine tree is watered down to where its no better than warm beer in the face.
    But the little Saber sprayer, that's nice and hot. You should use your thumb to spray it because that gives you better retention if they start slapping at it and it's more of a direct aim technique.

  • @BnaBrat
    @BnaBrat 2 месяца назад +1

    You don’t need to get certified and you just buy it and use it

    • @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN
      @TRAVELINGCIVILIAN  2 месяца назад

      I had to be certified as a police officer .... but you are correct ... not needed as a civilian.

    • @mar-45
      @mar-45 2 месяца назад

      Exactly 💯