I firmly belive in the theory that mihoyo don't give a damn for Genshin, they want the game to be shitty. It's impossible that in 4 years they basically didn't do anything the players asked for, they treat all players just as money trees, nothing more, it's pathetic how greedy they are, and this current patch just show this. Why not give the 20 pulls at the start of the patch that have TWO new 5 stars, it will really drain their resoruces? Just 20 pulls when you need at least 140 to pull the two? This is just greed and it's plain for everyone to see. But then in July they will give a small improvement, Liu Wei will fake cry again and they think it's enough
But I still don't get why they act like this when they get so much money from it, just treat the players better and do the bare minimum and the sales will increase too, it's not that hard to think of
Things that would have made Genshin better: 1- Skip button(At least for side quests...) 2- Not waiting 800+ days for a rerun character/weapon (PrimordialJadeCutter, Eula, Shenhe, Ganyu, kokomi) 3- Giving 5* to characters that aren't in the main story, weak or random(Sigewine, klee, chiori, emile, mizuki, qiqi) And 4* that should have been a 5* : ⚪The governor of Liyue "Ningguang" ⚪Fatui with a rough past and trained by arlechinno "Lynette" ⚪A general of the Watatsumi Army "Gorou" ⚪One of the 5 heroes of natlan "Ororon" 4- Improving QoL movement in the over world and revisiting extremely powercreped characters 5- Instead of random NPC, make events with characters/friends that we know. 6- Resin storage and unlock material maps domain dates. 7- If they didn't put our feedback into a shredder.
@Hoyo_Finally_Rerunning_PJC There are so many things they could fix or improve that it's useless to even say them, which is a big shame considering how good they could make the game. Reminds me of pokemon games still not having voice acting, it's the bare minimum nintendo could do, but if they get sales regardless they don't have to; can't say the same for genshin though when they're losing this much recently...
@@PJC_Next_Rerun_In_5Years YEAH! When I saw lynette in the Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview: Travail years ago I loved her design and thought lyney and lynette would be one playable character, that would have been epic but you know how hoyo is and always ruins everything... they did her dirty. 😞
I quit the game 3 weeks ago and I’ve been playing since it was first released. Natlan was just really bad and the voice acting being absent really did not help
It's not THE reason, but one of many. This video is about reasons why Genshin is failing, I simply added one more factor to the list. And what do you mean by outselling? According to the video, Genshin still earned the most money, albeit less than usual... Before anyone calls me a Hoyoshill, I need to clarify, that I'm UL80, have all characters and bought the Jinhsi skin xD
@@yoloshikuonegaishimasu6829 It's been outselling them on mobile for months. It outsold all three Hoyoverse games put together in China in November. Genshin also has non-mobile, but Genshin is also the most expensive game ever made while Lads is running on what looks like a barely AA budget.
No big drama...? There's been huge drama over Natlan's writing and lack of male characters You can also see it in just how well Love and Deepspace is doing. In November their mobile sales surpassed all three Hoyoverse game mobile sales put together. A lot of Genshin players like me went there - I prefer mixed gender gacha with no romance, but I'll play something with only guys and romance as long as it's aimed at women over something with only women but written for men like they have been doing in Genshin for the past year, and judging by the livestream lineup for the next year. I'm still playing HSR but my finger is hovering over the uninstall button if they shaft Phainon and Mydei and add more Firefly-like romance but just for the straight male players. I used to be a dolphin player with C6 Zhongli, C6 Alhaitham and several C2s, and every single Mondstadt and Sumeru character besides, and I even played and loved HI3 first half (it may have waifus but it also has Otto and Kevin as super important and powerful male story characters), but Genshin managed to completely destroy my trust in Hoyoverse. As you said, story and characters matter. Their playerbase used to be 44% women.
@ancalyme I talked about any huge drama regarding ZZZ as without one it's pretty much unexplainable why they lost 80% of their players out of the blue, but I'm glad that the female player playerbase still exists in these games, I feel like 99% of these gacha games are aimed at males as they probably play more and/or are more likely to spend money, but then a game like Love and Deepspace pops up and you can see what happens next. As for big dramas in Genshin it's full to the brim of them, there are probably 4 controversies constantly going on at any moment
@@itssytho And there is little potential to change anything in Genshin, so no wonder most attention are getting other hoyoverse games to compensate it.
@@itssythoIt was the highest grossing gacha game while doing the same thing thing for years. It's only after trying something completely different after Fontaine's main story and with Natlan that their sales plummeted. This is despite them adding QoL and even a new endgame mode. It's true that they lost players to Wuwa, but Wuwa is doing similar to ZZZ (Miyabi December aside), and their Sumeru->Fontaine player loss when Wuwa released is a lot less than their Fontaine->Natlan player loss (when Lads released).
the spiral abyss these days is mainly geared towards the banner characters, so if you didn't pull for any of them, good luck 36 starring if you ain't ar 60 or something. people are tired of spiral abyss, not because its hard, but because its unnecessarily hard.
@jancraft1230 I feel like the equivalent in HSR is even worse, you can't even think about finishing it if you don't have a team of 5 stars and the most recent ones too
It feels weird sometimes to see genshin's revenue still being so high despite so many complaints. Maybe its just because we only see it in EN community, and/or even in the EN those who are still fine is still the most in numbers. Idk how genshin is going in popularity in china, but at least in JP, its still bery popular somehow. Heck in EN a lot of people are dissapointed with mizuki's drip marketing, from being gooner bait to disrespecting japanese kimono, but genshin JP posts about mizuki habe more than 150k lol
@raihanrusli2720 The game's main revenue are Chinese and Japanese players, it's basically a cult in China at this point, and Genshin many times released many things based on what the chinese players mainly liked, just have a look at the chinese players' responses to people wanting tan skinned/black characters to the game
@itssytho I dont think you can correlate a game's popularity by judging by how the fanbase react to western audiences' push for more darker skin. Tbh I think most non western people are already annoyed with this. I live in SEA, even though most people are brown, players are annoyed by west's push, like it or not. Not to mention how outraged we are when the western twittards cancel artists who dont adhere to their agenda while they themselves do the opposite. Like everybody already knows this, the japanese calls it porikore, and there is its own chinese term for it.
@@itssytho if you do the same for wuwa, hsr and zzz, the chinese will do the same. Heck I think japanese are also outraged by this recently. Even in my country in SEA, most of us are brown but heavily annoyed by west's (particularly american) culture war
genshin is getting greedy, the banners they just release require you another char to be good and they put them on the same banner to get players to pay
@pinkhairblackman8141 Just think that they will give the players 20 pulls AFTER mavuika and citlali for absolutely no reason, they could've 100% spared that but did it just for the sake of making people spend more
weird how that didnt translate to sales, make the most greedy banner, 2 4 star 1.0 units (2 on the banner you can get for free btw), and then they don't break records with revenue? maybe genshins team is scratching there head thinking "why didn't this banner do well?" when its pretty easy to tell why it didnt..
weird, they make the most whale banner ever, and they lost revenue? maybe genshin fans finally understand there nothing but a cow being milked of there money... genshin has hardly been making the game more enjoyable for ,,, well everyone, they locked new movement behind a pay wall,,, technically there are sorans, but they feel worse then the charters... and they made mavwika un-useable on accounts that don't have any natlan characters,,, or well they have to pull for her c1 to be even useable without natlan characters. they give us the BARE MINIMUM, for quality of life, and are really stingy for giving us rewards... maybe people are finally sick of there bs? dunno... but I've been giving wuwa money because they have been treating me a lot better. and they put a lot more care into there content, and also allows me to skip s**t i don't care about.
I've noticed genshin getting more greedy with the characters required to play some teams, even though that was present since sumeru where you'd need nahida and another 5* if you wanted an actual decent team. I like wuwa more than genshin not because I despise genshin, but simply because it has been treating players much better and not just by giving more rewards, but by an insane amount of Qol like the insane movement and also making great models for the characters
Ill save people the burden of watching slop. No WuWa is not gonna kill genshin its just in the long line of "genshin killers" that just dont lmao. But it is also a good game unlike most other "genshin killers"
@@zerotwo2473 I guess you haven't watched the video either when I literally said that genshin can't basically die and that it will remain in the top ravenue for years, but that doesn't mean that they didn't lose almost half of their gains during last year and that they're starting to face a lot of promising competitors, which is why they should improve a lot of things to avoid taking these big hits again, as simple as that
average genshin shill not watching the video and automatically assuming that the youtuber said "wuwa is killing genshin" when it is in-fact, genshin, killing genshin, we dont want genshin to be bad, we want it to be good, thats why people complain about it.
The game will continue until the story finishes. Game doesn't feel greedy to me, even if other games are more generous. I mainly just do welkin and sometimes battle pass, but I've never topped up and I have every character I want that has been released and several constellations on some of my favorites. I got mavuika to c3, citlai to c2 and both sig weapons. I simply saved 300+ wishes by skipping characters I didn't want that bad.
Yeah this is actually something that people dont really realize. When you compare it it hsr, hsr has 50-100% more sj compared to genshin's primo per version, but they release 2 characters consistently while genshin sometimes release only 1. Hsr characters are also feels more needed compared to genshin so the pulling urge is higher. But tbh in gacha, giving us twice the currency to pull twice the characters isnt..... idk..... right for me. Having twice the currency doesnt mean you can gain twice the amount of character
@@raihanrusli2720 thats true, butttt then honkai star rail has a huge f**king power scale problem now. making it so you have to pull for the newest characters to even clear some content. its very giving, but your characters don't have longevity. what i still dont understand about genshin is how stingy they have to be with artifacts, like with the artifact picker... they made it so s**t..
I firmly belive in the theory that mihoyo don't give a damn for Genshin, they want the game to be shitty. It's impossible that in 4 years they basically didn't do anything the players asked for, they treat all players just as money trees, nothing more, it's pathetic how greedy they are, and this current patch just show this. Why not give the 20 pulls at the start of the patch that have TWO new 5 stars, it will really drain their resoruces? Just 20 pulls when you need at least 140 to pull the two? This is just greed and it's plain for everyone to see. But then in July they will give a small improvement, Liu Wei will fake cry again and they think it's enough
But I still don't get why they act like this when they get so much money from it, just treat the players better and do the bare minimum and the sales will increase too, it's not that hard to think of
Things that would have made Genshin better:
1- Skip button(At least for side quests...)
2- Not waiting 800+ days for a rerun character/weapon (PrimordialJadeCutter, Eula, Shenhe, Ganyu, kokomi)
3- Giving 5* to characters that aren't in the main story, weak or random(Sigewine, klee, chiori, emile, mizuki, qiqi)
And 4* that should have been a 5* :
⚪The governor of Liyue "Ningguang"
⚪Fatui with a rough past and trained by arlechinno "Lynette"
⚪A general of the Watatsumi Army "Gorou"
⚪One of the 5 heroes of natlan "Ororon"
4- Improving QoL movement in the over world and revisiting extremely powercreped characters
5- Instead of random NPC, make events with characters/friends that we know.
6- Resin storage and unlock material maps domain dates.
7- If they didn't put our feedback into a shredder.
Skip button is what would kill genshin.
@Hoyo_Finally_Rerunning_PJC There are so many things they could fix or improve that it's useless to even say them, which is a big shame considering how good they could make the game. Reminds me of pokemon games still not having voice acting, it's the bare minimum nintendo could do, but if they get sales regardless they don't have to; can't say the same for genshin though when they're losing this much recently...
We got 5* Sigewinne while Lynette is 4* All that needs to be said on that topic...
@@RexLapis-yn7pe Out of everything that I mentioned that is my number 1 let down because lynette is my favorite character in genshin.
@@PJC_Next_Rerun_In_5Years YEAH! When I saw lynette in the Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview: Travail years ago I loved her design and thought lyney and lynette would be one playable character, that would have been epic but you know how hoyo is and always ruins everything... they did her dirty. 😞
I quit the game 3 weeks ago and I’ve been playing since it was first released. Natlan was just really bad and the voice acting being absent really did not help
So many players feel like you, Natlan really has been a disappointment for many
You forgot the huge unemployment crisis among the young Chinese.
If thats the case wuwa would be EoS soon too😂😂😂
@youarebeingtrolled6954 This pretty much affects the entire economy
If that was the reason then Lads wouldn't be outselling them so badly with practically only CN sales.
It's not THE reason, but one of many. This video is about reasons why Genshin is failing, I simply added one more factor to the list. And what do you mean by outselling? According to the video, Genshin still earned the most money, albeit less than usual... Before anyone calls me a Hoyoshill, I need to clarify, that I'm UL80, have all characters and bought the Jinhsi skin xD
@@yoloshikuonegaishimasu6829 It's been outselling them on mobile for months. It outsold all three Hoyoverse games put together in China in November.
Genshin also has non-mobile, but Genshin is also the most expensive game ever made while Lads is running on what looks like a barely AA budget.
No big drama...? There's been huge drama over Natlan's writing and lack of male characters
You can also see it in just how well Love and Deepspace is doing. In November their mobile sales surpassed all three Hoyoverse game mobile sales put together. A lot of Genshin players like me went there - I prefer mixed gender gacha with no romance, but I'll play something with only guys and romance as long as it's aimed at women over something with only women but written for men like they have been doing in Genshin for the past year, and judging by the livestream lineup for the next year.
I'm still playing HSR but my finger is hovering over the uninstall button if they shaft Phainon and Mydei and add more Firefly-like romance but just for the straight male players.
I used to be a dolphin player with C6 Zhongli, C6 Alhaitham and several C2s, and every single Mondstadt and Sumeru character besides, and I even played and loved HI3 first half (it may have waifus but it also has Otto and Kevin as super important and powerful male story characters), but Genshin managed to completely destroy my trust in Hoyoverse.
As you said, story and characters matter. Their playerbase used to be 44% women.
@ancalyme I talked about any huge drama regarding ZZZ as without one it's pretty much unexplainable why they lost 80% of their players out of the blue, but I'm glad that the female player playerbase still exists in these games, I feel like 99% of these gacha games are aimed at males as they probably play more and/or are more likely to spend money, but then a game like Love and Deepspace pops up and you can see what happens next. As for big dramas in Genshin it's full to the brim of them, there are probably 4 controversies constantly going on at any moment
Old players stopped paying money, and a lot of reasons why this happened. In next 2 patches after Lantern Rite it will be even worse.
@Centurion321O I honestly hope this will be a wakeup call to the devs after the game has been basically the same for 4 years
@@itssytho And there is little potential to change anything in Genshin, so no wonder most attention are getting other hoyoverse games to compensate it.
@@itssythoIt was the highest grossing gacha game while doing the same thing thing for years.
It's only after trying something completely different after Fontaine's main story and with Natlan that their sales plummeted.
This is despite them adding QoL and even a new endgame mode.
It's true that they lost players to Wuwa, but Wuwa is doing similar to ZZZ (Miyabi December aside), and their Sumeru->Fontaine player loss when Wuwa released is a lot less than their Fontaine->Natlan player loss (when Lads released).
The only game the distroying them all is "love and deepspace"
the spiral abyss these days is mainly geared towards the banner characters, so if you didn't pull for any of them, good luck 36 starring if you ain't ar 60 or something. people are tired of spiral abyss, not because its hard, but because its unnecessarily hard.
@jancraft1230 I feel like the equivalent in HSR is even worse, you can't even think about finishing it if you don't have a team of 5 stars and the most recent ones too
It feels weird sometimes to see genshin's revenue still being so high despite so many complaints. Maybe its just because we only see it in EN community, and/or even in the EN those who are still fine is still the most in numbers.
Idk how genshin is going in popularity in china, but at least in JP, its still bery popular somehow. Heck in EN a lot of people are dissapointed with mizuki's drip marketing, from being gooner bait to disrespecting japanese kimono, but genshin JP posts about mizuki habe more than 150k lol
@raihanrusli2720 The game's main revenue are Chinese and Japanese players, it's basically a cult in China at this point, and Genshin many times released many things based on what the chinese players mainly liked, just have a look at the chinese players' responses to people wanting tan skinned/black characters to the game
@itssytho I dont think you can correlate a game's popularity by judging by how the fanbase react to western audiences' push for more darker skin. Tbh I think most non western people are already annoyed with this. I live in SEA, even though most people are brown, players are annoyed by west's push, like it or not. Not to mention how outraged we are when the western twittards cancel artists who dont adhere to their agenda while they themselves do the opposite. Like everybody already knows this, the japanese calls it porikore, and there is its own chinese term for it.
@itssytho what ? How can you correlate chinese rejection of western players' skin color push with how good the game is in china ?
@@itssytho if you do the same for wuwa, hsr and zzz, the chinese will do the same. Heck I think japanese are also outraged by this recently. Even in my country in SEA, most of us are brown but heavily annoyed by west's (particularly american) culture war
genshin is getting greedy, the banners they just release require you another char to be good and they put them on the same banner to get players to pay
@pinkhairblackman8141 Just think that they will give the players 20 pulls AFTER mavuika and citlali for absolutely no reason, they could've 100% spared that but did it just for the sake of making people spend more
weird how that didnt translate to sales, make the most greedy banner, 2 4 star 1.0 units (2 on the banner you can get for free btw), and then they don't break records with revenue? maybe genshins team is scratching there head thinking "why didn't this banner do well?" when its pretty easy to tell why it didnt..
weird, they make the most whale banner ever, and they lost revenue? maybe genshin fans finally understand there nothing but a cow being milked of there money... genshin has hardly been making the game more enjoyable for ,,, well everyone, they locked new movement behind a pay wall,,, technically there are sorans, but they feel worse then the charters... and they made mavwika un-useable on accounts that don't have any natlan characters,,, or well they have to pull for her c1 to be even useable without natlan characters. they give us the BARE MINIMUM, for quality of life, and are really stingy for giving us rewards... maybe people are finally sick of there bs? dunno... but I've been giving wuwa money because they have been treating me a lot better. and they put a lot more care into there content, and also allows me to skip s**t i don't care about.
I've noticed genshin getting more greedy with the characters required to play some teams, even though that was present since sumeru where you'd need nahida and another 5* if you wanted an actual decent team. I like wuwa more than genshin not because I despise genshin, but simply because it has been treating players much better and not just by giving more rewards, but by an insane amount of Qol like the insane movement and also making great models for the characters
No , the answer is no 😂
Ill save people the burden of watching slop.
No WuWa is not gonna kill genshin its just in the long line of "genshin killers" that just dont lmao. But it is also a good game unlike most other "genshin killers"
It won't kill Genshin it will just show what Genshin is lacking and should be improved, gamewise and companywise. Else Genshin will kill itself :D
@@zerotwo2473 I guess you haven't watched the video either when I literally said that genshin can't basically die and that it will remain in the top ravenue for years, but that doesn't mean that they didn't lose almost half of their gains during last year and that they're starting to face a lot of promising competitors, which is why they should improve a lot of things to avoid taking these big hits again, as simple as that
@@seriousmarv788 what will happen if they do stuff wuwa has? people will stil!l be mad since it's copying the game no?
average genshin shill not watching the video and automatically assuming that the youtuber said "wuwa is killing genshin" when it is in-fact, genshin, killing genshin, we dont want genshin to be bad, we want it to be good, thats why people complain about it.
what is that cheap genshin copy of a game you're playing?
The game will continue until the story finishes. Game doesn't feel greedy to me, even if other games are more generous. I mainly just do welkin and sometimes battle pass, but I've never topped up and I have every character I want that has been released and several constellations on some of my favorites. I got mavuika to c3, citlai to c2 and both sig weapons. I simply saved 300+ wishes by skipping characters I didn't want that bad.
Yeah this is actually something that people dont really realize. When you compare it it hsr, hsr has 50-100% more sj compared to genshin's primo per version, but they release 2 characters consistently while genshin sometimes release only 1. Hsr characters are also feels more needed compared to genshin so the pulling urge is higher.
But tbh in gacha, giving us twice the currency to pull twice the characters isnt..... idk..... right for me. Having twice the currency doesnt mean you can gain twice the amount of character
@@raihanrusli2720 thats true, butttt then honkai star rail has a huge f**king power scale problem now. making it so you have to pull for the newest characters to even clear some content. its very giving, but your characters don't have longevity. what i still dont understand about genshin is how stingy they have to be with artifacts, like with the artifact picker... they made it so s**t..
lol wuwa players are living in a genjutsu your game isn’t even highest search 😂 shut up and play your new toy
Lmao
you know being searched could mean good and/or bad. And we all know it is mostly because of the negative controversies genshin has 😆