Hey, hey. Thanks for watching and all the comments! Seems like not everyone is onboard with these changes so far. Have any more questions on these laptops I can answer? Reply here and I'll get to them. While I'm here, I have a couple of small edits and things I didn't mention! First, you can't actually go up to 8TB of storage anymore, apparently that configuration is off the table. Secondly, I just wanted to emphasize that 120Hz variable refresh rate panels are available in the base configurations of these laptops, including the XPS 13, which is pretty awesome. Last thing on configurations - the XPS 16 starts at $1800, but that's without discrete graphics, which will range up to the RTX 4070. No RTX 4080 option in the lineup like the XPS 17 used to have.
Appreciate the comment here. Just wondering, do you know if any of the laptops come with vapor chamber cooling like the xps 17 does? And also, do you know if the tdps of the gpu can be increased through nvidia dynamic boost or are they a hard limit? Since I remember that the 4050’s lowest tdp was 35w, I’m a bit concerned that the XPS 14 will underperform quite a bit.
Hi, Please tell Dell to add haptic feedback for the capacitive fn row. If not, it is going to be completely unusable. Please give this feedback to Dell. In reddit and many places’ people report that they use these laptops for professional use(editing/coding) and dell solution will not fit their use case. A solution could be to use haptic feedback of some kind so that you know you have pressed a bottom.
Did Dell give any reason for changing the SD card reader to mSD? The only thing I can think of that uses mSD are things like doorbell cameras, which are rarely, if ever inserted into a laptop. I honestly can't imagine the rational for that decision. Would have been just as good to remove it all together and put another thunderbolt port or something.
I do wonder if they plan on refreshing the base model xps with non ultra intel processors at some point down the line since I see a lot of people buying them.
Looks like Dell just nuked their XPS customer base...soldered RAM, the highly divisive touch Fn row and the invisible touchpad are not upgrades (although the higher refresh rate display options and higher resolution cameras are most welcome), but just going through the motions for the sake of a refresh. Introducing Ryzen CPUs/APUs to the existing chassis would have been a far bigger and more universally exciting update due to better efficiency, battery life and lower thermals. Shame.
@@-_--le3zk most likely due to Dell being one of Intel's biggest clients, if not the biggest, meaning they probably want to maintain their relationship through loyalty, discounts, etc. Otherwise, not much sense.
I agree with almost everything. Plus the abysmal IO without USB A and Full Size SD. Really Dell? You know, People actually want to use those machines. Even Apple has realized this by now... When it comes to CPU, I still have hopes for Meteor Lake. Latest review on Notebookcheck has the MSI Prestige 16 with 99Wh Battery and Core 7 Ultra with over 20 hours of real life runtime. I think we have to wait for some optimisations to see the potential of those new Intel chips. Would be great to finally have some competition again...
@fullhd5277 it's a matter of taste, I think the seamless touchpad is actually great. It offers a lot of space which I appreciate and it has a haptic feedback like on Mac Pros which means you can click anywhere with the same physical feedback.
damn so the Dell XPS is now ruined. Wow thanks Dell, I guess I better get the 17 before they stop selling it! I was saving for a 14th gen version of that design but I guess not...
Why, WHY did they removed the function keys?! Absolutely no-one ever said or thought "oh my god, it could be so cool if those keys where sensitive, and less reliable"... and especially us programmers! It's quite literally the touch bar but with way less functionnality, good luck with that Dell... I'm staying on Macbook for a good moment hey.
1300 bucks for 8GB of DRAM while on top of getting rid of a physical touchpad. Wow who's in charge of product design over there, Fire them! Might as well buy a 15 Air for a little more for that price
As much as the new design looks good and variable refresh rate is great, there are just too many other caveats. The lack of a physical function row is really annoying and I was hoping Dell wouldn't do this to their other laptops after the 13 Plus (especially the escape key, which I use all the time). Removing the SD reader for micro is also annoying, and soldered RAM is a big step back for what used to be one of the more modular laptops on the market. Judging based on the TDPs of the GPUs it also seems like they didn't actually improve their cooling solution at all. 60W on the 4070 for the new XPS 16 is the exact same as it is on the XPS 17 (and it even lacks the 4080 option now), and the 30W 4050 in the XPS 14 actually makes it worse than the current 40W GPUs you can get in the XPS 15. When even HP and Microsoft are running their thin and lights with higher wattage graphics cards you know you need to change something. I feel like Dell removed a lot of what people liked about the XPS- modular, upgradable components and a no-nonsense design, and didn't fix their biggest issue which was thermal performance.
In theory, the non-ohysical function keys and seamless touchpad allow for more room for cooling. It did so in the XPS13 Plus, where the P processors performed better than in its ultrabook competitors. I was wondering when Dell would implememt the same treatment to the 16 version and here it is. Now we need real number to see if the cooling has really improved or if we just lost functionality without any plus side to it.
No surprise that Dell ditched the 2-in-1 as Windows on tablets suck, and the market has never taken off. People buy Android and iPadOS tablets instead. But I am surprised they have gone all-in on the XPS 13 Plus design, as it is very divisive. Apple killed their version of the touchbar because of the negative feedback, and Dell's version is far less useful. This looks like a catch-up by Dell, with a better webcam and 120Hz, but the XPS no longer stands above the crowd. Like most PC OEMs, they have a tough year ahead.
It's kind of sad to see Dell not realizing that even Apple has just come back to acutal physical buttons and "oldschool" I/O like a full size SD-Card slot. At this point Dell just wants to make the XPS a lifestyleproduct rather than an actual professional slim workhorse with practical fuctions. To me it seems just like a lot of costcutting...
I have the 12th Gen Version of the 13" XPS plus (9320) with the OLED screen. People really should not get too caught up in specs. That OLED is a GEM of a screen and the 12th Gen i7 P series is still plenty capable. I still get compliments on that screen and I really don't worry about nit counts. I also use it with a thunderbolt dock when in the office with a 34" widescreen and it's a heck of a combo.
I was so hyped that they updated the lineup that was becoming outdated. But fucking hell, the most important feature for me was the SD card slot. Guess i'm going to buy a Lenovo laptop
Me too, I really hoped they would follow Apple's example and reintroduce a HDMI and USB-A port but nope... I'll probably buy a current XPS 15 on sale to replace my 2019 XPS 15 Oled where the hinge is broken...
Photographer and creator here... having a few years old XPS 15 9500 due to be replaced this year. And agree with the shortcomings... I would need to test, how much the touch-only F-keyrow hinders me - definitely would prefer propers keys. But the micro-SD on the XPS 16 is a no go. Another dongle - while only having 3 USB-C ports already? As I sometimes work with older USB-Sticks or just some USB-A connected device like a Webcam or teather-cable I already miss Dell not including at least one old-fashioned USB-A port... but now also the SD-Cardreader? Let's see, what Asus or HP come up with for creators - this 2024 XPS is no option for me.
I was really hoping to upgrade my XPS 15 9510 this year. As a developer/engineer, function keys are a given. I'm really hoping the Qualcomm X Elite is something new and powerful. I really don't want to have to pay Apple tax for performance and battery life...
Was hoping for better cooling allowing for the GPU to get more power. Could be the case but I doubt it. Getting rid of the full size SD card slot is lame.
They look fresh but I'm gutted with the reduction in screen size from 17", the removal of full-sized SD card slot and also the fact that there is only one SSD drive inside and the memory is soldered making you have to pay more up front for memory, instead of being able to upgrade later if your use case demands more RAM.
At least for the 14 and 16, I am amazed that Dell decided to implement all these changes in a single generation. They have made enough changes to frustrate all customers in their own ways. Plenty of folks will not like the keyboard design and trackpad, others will hate the touch bar, and for others the removal of the SD card slot is a deal breaker (I'm in this camp). If they had implemented just one of those changes, it would have only upset that subset, but by doing all three, they have tripled, or at least doubled the number of customers that will no longer consider these as a viable option. A serious mistake on Dell's part, and one I doubt they will be able to remedy...
I have the xps 15 (9510). The soldered ram is a mistake in my opinion. They are shooting themselves in the foot going down that route. Might as well go with m3 Mac if I choose to update
I have only been using Dell XPS but with this, the absolute deal breaker of not having the physical buttons will ensure that my money goes elsewhere. Non-negotiable.
Looks like dell trying to be an apple to non apple customers. The lineup has been milking consumers for years. This years I don’t think it will sell as well as previous years.
My previous XPS frequently experienced touchpad issues. Now, they've opted for a seemingly unreliable approach by eliminating physical function keys. Considering Dell's track record in quality control, I can only hope for the best. However, I have concerns that within two years, these non-physical keys might fail, and by that time, the warranty would likely have lapsed, effectively rendering the computer useless.
Have a 2015 xps13, was ready for an upgrade. Refuse to buy another one without a headphone jack. There is just no reason for it. I love the compact form factor, but at this point, it will either be Asus or framework that gets my money.
I like the changes for the most part. Just have to factor in all the pros and cons. Keep in mind I work with Azure cloud, C#, PowerShell, and Python (for small scripts). Pros for 14 & 16-inch models: Better battery life, better heat management, better quality web camera for Teams meetings & interviews, and better display fresh rate. Cons for 14 & 16-inch models: Worse single core performance, RAM is no longer adjustable, electronic Function keys, and no built-in SD card reader (photographers need this).
Great coverage!!! I think only the lack of a headphone jack irks me on the 13. Otherwise, the rest of the concessions are non-issues for me. I love the touch controls, the trackpad looks really dope being seamless and I have never used the SD card slot on my laptops, it is just easier to copy over USB. So I guess these just work for me
@@lukelarsen8228will this comes with 32 and/or 64? I have a 2017 XPS 13 2in2 at 16/512. Already showing it's performance lag to the Adobe eco-system. Track pad, lack of headphone jack, function keys n micro SD are all non-issue for me. Faster CPU/GPU, more memory n bigger SSD is my use case. I run lightroom classic, lightroom cc, lightroom web, Adobe Express n browser with load of open tabs. Presently it can't handle adding in Photoshop. So new one needs to be able. I use a full size Logitech keyboard with blue tooth n Logitech MX mouse n a 512g microsd permanently insert acting as drive d. For the last 5 years I d/l photos straight from camera via just usb cable. When not travelling it's connect to a dell U3223qe daisy chain to secondary monitor 24x7. Three portable SSD (total 7tb) connects to the monitor. Via a powered hub another 3 portable HDD (total 12tb) is connected to the laptop for a total of 8 drives c to j. Question. If a 32g/1tb or more 14" is available n if I were to add another u3223qe, can it and/or windows handle 4 displays in extended mode with a u3223qe daisy chain to a 2nd u3223qe n it itself daisy chain to a third dell monitor? At the monitors max resolution. 15" will be undesirable as I often travel for photography shoots. So a 14" is the max I can tolerate. Note. Presently not doing video editing. At some point I may dive in video. However any videos will be rudimentary but will opt to go with Adobe eco-system. Presently using Adobe Rush very occasionally. It's possible I will adopt Premiere Pro into my bag but any video work will be basic. My present 13 2in1 runs AI blur, denoise, enhance, panorama merge like a turtle. Will these new 14" dell be comparable to the Mac M2 series?
Now I can upgrade my XPS 13 9300 4K i7 16/512GB. I'm a big fan of the new XPS design, and I was waiting for an upgraded Webcam, higher refresh rate screen and the return of ports (including headphone jack and microSD card reader) before I upgrade. I know they did not bring ports back on the XPS 13 but I'll be getting the 14" OLED, unless of course if Dell offers a 4K IPS with 120hz refresh rate option.
I used Macbook PRO M1 for three years and last year my company gave me an XPS13 carbon-fiber model. I really love this computer and was thinking abount buying other, but the lack of 3.5mm and no ESC key is a no-no. And it's sad, as this is an amazing model, but they took all the bad ideas from the Plus line. I'll go have to go for the Macbook Pro :(
Not too sure about how I feel about the keyboard for the XPS 14/16 models. From a Programmer/Software Engineering POV, it's definitely not ideal. Everything else on paper is seemingly good though.
I like that the new 16" Dell XPS16 has the newest wifi 7 instead of the older wifi 6e that the new 16" Samsung galaxy book 4's have. I also like that the 16" Dell is actually 16.3" while the new 16" Samsung is apparently just 15.6". That the 16" Dell is actually more, is actually 16.3", it helps me get over the loss of the 17", a little bit less of a drop in screen size. I am anxious to learn about the battery life of the XPS 16, and compare the Samsungs and the Dells in that regard.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm curious if there's just one SSD slot on the 16". Also, do you know if they improved the cooling for the cpu / gpu and did they limit the RTX GPU's to 40W like before? The camera will be a welcome upgrade, but I kinda hate the "plus" feature of that function bar, the headphone jack is kinda ugly and the "AI" assistance reminds me of Skynet lol
I hate Apple but still hope this sells like crap to prove the point of the horrible decision to not include function keys. God why are they so dumb to shove these stupid design decisions over our asses. They should at least launched another model with the Fn keys... For now bye Dell, you just lost a customer who used to buy your laptops for over 15 years. Guess I gotta try Lenovo next.
Another step back :( Micro SD, that touch pad and that function row.. Why would they allow such bull. So for now only the Lenovo Yoga 9 Pro 14 will fulfill what I need. That is so sad, I was looking forward to the new Dell XPS laptops.
I wish the 14" had a 4060 option, full size SD card, and WiFi7 instead of WiFi6E. The 16" has the 4060 option and WiFi7 but it's just too big for all the times I'm actually using it on my lap roaming around the place. I understand that 4060 is probably too much heat for the 14" and I can live with the 4050, but man would it be good to have full size SD and Wifi7 and it wouldn't kill them to put that in.
For me, as a student, these look like a great option, I hate the look of the new MacBooks, these have a great curb appeal that would make using one feel nicer, provided the keyboard feels good to me personally
I was planning to purchase both the new XPS 14 and the new U4025QW monitor having a 5K resolution @120Hz refresh rate. I actually ordered the XPS 14 and then got in doubt if it could support the resolution of U4025QW and called Dell technical support. Although he was not very sure he didn't believe it would support the mentioned resolution and refresh rate. I ended cancelling my order. :-) Do you by chance have any comments or input in that regard? maybe more details on what generally is required (by a windows pc) to support 5K @120Hz? Thanks!.
I definitely think this is a major downgrade on all fronts. Worse design that is much more susceptible to damge because of the glass decklid, much worse keyboard from most people's perspective, no AMD option which is a shame and the biggest problem is that it does not allow for upgrades. Previous XPS 15 and 17 devices had an extra M.2 Slot and replaceable memory. Micro SD is another downgrade from the Full size SD of previous models. I hope very few people buy this so that they take a hint.
100% agree. I hate the capacitive function row and downgrade from reg sd to micro sd slot just doesn't make sense for laptops of this price/use case. I don't think dell knows or understands who their target audience is for these machines
Ouch, that was NOT was I was hoping for.... 15" is the perfect size for me.... anything larger is too large portability, so I would have to go down to 14" and sacrifice some screen and battery size :( and no function keys is the deal breaker. I use them all the times, as a developer, windows super user, and gamer. RIP
I have a new 13" XPS at work with no physical function keys - I have to say it is terrible. I have to use external keyboard when I use excel cause the touch sensitive keyboard need to "touch" twice many times. ugh. Good god, all the new models will have the same keyboard? And I was thinking about my personal old XPS. So I guess I will just keep it :)
Honestly , I was hoping Dell would remove the carbon fiber ,and they did , now they’re given me a reason to wait another year or two. Those capacitive function keys are just unnecessary. It’s almost as though Dell is trying to copy The Macs design philosophy without making it obvious. I’m definitely sitting this one out.
If it's using the same cooling as the xps 15 then it's gonna be a nonstarter for most people. Comparing the performance of the MacBook pro with the existing xps line is a joke since Intel CPUs are power hungry and the xps 15 was severely power limited because the thin chassis and cooling couldn't handle full performance. They need major changes inside and proof that this isn't yet another gimped $2k+ laptop. The loss of the cheaper xps options is no big deal, as many inspiron models are almost just as good and sometimes better for much cheaper.
Huge disappointment. Like many have said, the touchbar and seamless trackpad is a no-go for me. I already miss the old design. Guess I'll have to wait this generation out.
I think the design is amazing. News flash,not everyone who uses an XPS is a “content creator”, there is actually a world of users outside of the “influencer world”
we need dell to update the msft surface pro alternative aka the dell detachable to latest gen cpu... they are still selling overpriced and old intel gen11 stuff.
Looks beautiful. But if you actually need to use the keyboard rather than just look at it - well, good luck :D It was only a few years ago that XPS was my absolute go to choice. Since they started making unusable keyboards then I've been buying Asus or LG the last few years. Dell is going downhill FAST
i mean who the hell is using micro sd card? I get it, gopro type camera and drones, but are they more than people using dlsr and mirroless? i really doubt it. Even Apple put back the full size sd card reader and hdmi, Dell has just successfully made their card reader usless for many people now
@@floz9718more gopro and drone user than dslr and mirroless users? The camera market is still considered a major market and sports camera is considered a small segment
@@frankhu8692 Maybe... could be that I'm wrong this is just my subjective observation. I just feel like every other person is running around with drone or a gopro...
what the hell is up with the brightness wars, it doesn't make any sense when the screens are bright and reflective, all you see is yourself. use matte screens with descent brightness (400nits) and you're good. Otherwise, you'll just murder your battery life with display at 1000 nits outdoor. Besides, the quality of display is not its brightness. Somehow, these reviewers are apple fans boys, they want everything to come with 'Apple specifications'. the new XPS is amazing. and no, developers won't be mad at the capacitive touch row. why assume its not going to work? because Apple couldn't figure out their design? at least let people experience it before you start throwing shade....
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Hey, hey. Thanks for watching and all the comments! Seems like not everyone is onboard with these changes so far. Have any more questions on these laptops I can answer? Reply here and I'll get to them.
While I'm here, I have a couple of small edits and things I didn't mention! First, you can't actually go up to 8TB of storage anymore, apparently that configuration is off the table. Secondly, I just wanted to emphasize that 120Hz variable refresh rate panels are available in the base configurations of these laptops, including the XPS 13, which is pretty awesome. Last thing on configurations - the XPS 16 starts at $1800, but that's without discrete graphics, which will range up to the RTX 4070. No RTX 4080 option in the lineup like the XPS 17 used to have.
Appreciate the comment here. Just wondering, do you know if any of the laptops come with vapor chamber cooling like the xps 17 does? And also, do you know if the tdps of the gpu can be increased through nvidia dynamic boost or are they a hard limit? Since I remember that the 4050’s lowest tdp was 35w, I’m a bit concerned that the XPS 14 will underperform quite a bit.
Hi, Please tell Dell to add haptic feedback for the capacitive fn row. If not, it is going to be completely unusable. Please give this feedback to Dell. In reddit and many places’ people report that they use these laptops for professional use(editing/coding) and dell solution will not fit their use case. A solution could be to use haptic feedback of some kind so that you know you have pressed a bottom.
Did Dell give any reason for changing the SD card reader to mSD? The only thing I can think of that uses mSD are things like doorbell cameras, which are rarely, if ever inserted into a laptop. I honestly can't imagine the rational for that decision. Would have been just as good to remove it all together and put another thunderbolt port or something.
Luke! I had no idea you were even part of the Digital Trends team! Hope you're doing well
I do wonder if they plan on refreshing the base model xps with non ultra intel processors at some point down the line since I see a lot of people buying them.
No physical function keys (including ESC and DEL) are a no-go 😢😢
It's not a biggie, honestly.
Looks like Dell just nuked their XPS customer base...soldered RAM, the highly divisive touch Fn row and the invisible touchpad are not upgrades (although the higher refresh rate display options and higher resolution cameras are most welcome), but just going through the motions for the sake of a refresh. Introducing Ryzen CPUs/APUs to the existing chassis would have been a far bigger and more universally exciting update due to better efficiency, battery life and lower thermals. Shame.
I will never understand why dell does not offer Ryzen CPUs in xps lineup
@@-_--le3zk most likely due to Dell being one of Intel's biggest clients, if not the biggest, meaning they probably want to maintain their relationship through loyalty, discounts, etc. Otherwise, not much sense.
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Sure, vrr and high refresh is welcome, but 400 nits is just not bright enough. If you’re indoors next to a big window, it’s going to be dim.
I agree with almost everything. Plus the abysmal IO without USB A and Full Size SD. Really Dell? You know, People actually want to use those machines. Even Apple has realized this by now...
When it comes to CPU, I still have hopes for Meteor Lake. Latest review on Notebookcheck has the MSI Prestige 16 with 99Wh Battery and Core 7 Ultra with over 20 hours of real life runtime. I think we have to wait for some optimisations to see the potential of those new Intel chips. Would be great to finally have some competition again...
Ouch, many bad changes 😢
Seamless touchpad and no physical function buttons will make it a no go for most, me included.
Most people do not care at all
@@trilexi the 14" and 16" are more like pro machines and no programmer or media producer wants to work with such a keyboard.
@fullhd5277 it's a matter of taste, I think the seamless touchpad is actually great. It offers a lot of space which I appreciate and it has a haptic feedback like on Mac Pros which means you can click anywhere with the same physical feedback.
@@cionheart Most people that buys these laptops aren't pros at all, just regular people that want a premium laptop
Lol it looks super fresh dude get a grip
damn so the Dell XPS is now ruined. Wow thanks Dell, I guess I better get the 17 before they stop selling it! I was saving for a 14th gen version of that design but I guess not...
Even Apple admits that such a shallow keys are terrible, but Dell picks them up and make them even worse that that.
You forgot to mention the RAM on all models is now soldered*
Aint no way, thats so fucked up😂
no physical function keys are a deal breaker.
also that omni-touch pad will drive me crazy.
ill seek other options or look at past XPS models
Why, WHY did they removed the function keys?! Absolutely no-one ever said or thought "oh my god, it could be so cool if those keys where sensitive, and less reliable"... and especially us programmers! It's quite literally the touch bar but with way less functionnality, good luck with that Dell... I'm staying on Macbook for a good moment hey.
1300 bucks for 8GB of DRAM while on top of getting rid of a physical touchpad. Wow who's in charge of product design over there, Fire them! Might as well buy a 15 Air for a little more for that price
As much as the new design looks good and variable refresh rate is great, there are just too many other caveats. The lack of a physical function row is really annoying and I was hoping Dell wouldn't do this to their other laptops after the 13 Plus (especially the escape key, which I use all the time). Removing the SD reader for micro is also annoying, and soldered RAM is a big step back for what used to be one of the more modular laptops on the market.
Judging based on the TDPs of the GPUs it also seems like they didn't actually improve their cooling solution at all. 60W on the 4070 for the new XPS 16 is the exact same as it is on the XPS 17 (and it even lacks the 4080 option now), and the 30W 4050 in the XPS 14 actually makes it worse than the current 40W GPUs you can get in the XPS 15. When even HP and Microsoft are running their thin and lights with higher wattage graphics cards you know you need to change something.
I feel like Dell removed a lot of what people liked about the XPS- modular, upgradable components and a no-nonsense design, and didn't fix their biggest issue which was thermal performance.
8GB ram base is an insult! 16GB should be the baseline.
In theory, the non-ohysical function keys and seamless touchpad allow for more room for cooling. It did so in the XPS13 Plus, where the P processors performed better than in its ultrabook competitors.
I was wondering when Dell would implememt the same treatment to the 16 version and here it is.
Now we need real number to see if the cooling has really improved or if we just lost functionality without any plus side to it.
They should have just used thinner keys, not capacitive touch, this is going to kill so many sales.
No surprise that Dell ditched the 2-in-1 as Windows on tablets suck, and the market has never taken off. People buy Android and iPadOS tablets instead. But I am surprised they have gone all-in on the XPS 13 Plus design, as it is very divisive. Apple killed their version of the touchbar because of the negative feedback, and Dell's version is far less useful.
This looks like a catch-up by Dell, with a better webcam and 120Hz, but the XPS no longer stands above the crowd. Like most PC OEMs, they have a tough year ahead.
I have a super old windows tablet and its great at having ad block for watching videos while taking a bath.
It's kind of sad to see Dell not realizing that even Apple has just come back to acutal physical buttons and "oldschool" I/O like a full size SD-Card slot. At this point Dell just wants to make the XPS a lifestyleproduct rather than an actual professional slim workhorse with practical fuctions. To me it seems just like a lot of costcutting...
I have the 12th Gen Version of the 13" XPS plus (9320) with the OLED screen. People really should not get too caught up in specs. That OLED is a GEM of a screen and the 12th Gen i7 P series is still plenty capable. I still get compliments on that screen and I really don't worry about nit counts. I also use it with a thunderbolt dock when in the office with a 34" widescreen and it's a heck of a combo.
I picked up the 12th gen model last year during the back to school sales. It's been decent. I'm glad I didn't wait for this new version.
The XPS line has completely jumped the shark. I've owned several models, but I'm done with it once my XPS 9310 dies.
How do you jump a shark?
I was so hyped that they updated the lineup that was becoming outdated.
But fucking hell, the most important feature for me was the SD card slot.
Guess i'm going to buy a Lenovo laptop
@@8020Aliveit is so stupid for them to make it a micro one, virtually useless for many users now
Me too, I really hoped they would follow Apple's example and reintroduce a HDMI and USB-A port but nope... I'll probably buy a current XPS 15 on sale to replace my 2019 XPS 15 Oled where the hinge is broken...
Photographer and creator here... having a few years old XPS 15 9500 due to be replaced this year.
And agree with the shortcomings... I would need to test, how much the touch-only F-keyrow hinders me - definitely would prefer propers keys. But the micro-SD on the XPS 16 is a no go. Another dongle - while only having 3 USB-C ports already?
As I sometimes work with older USB-Sticks or just some USB-A connected device like a Webcam or teather-cable I already miss Dell not including at least one old-fashioned USB-A port... but now also the SD-Cardreader?
Let's see, what Asus or HP come up with for creators - this 2024 XPS is no option for me.
Agree with no USB-A ports being super frustrating. Dongles suck.
I was really hoping to upgrade my XPS 15 9510 this year. As a developer/engineer, function keys are a given. I'm really hoping the Qualcomm X Elite is something new and powerful. I really don't want to have to pay Apple tax for performance and battery life...
Was hoping for better cooling allowing for the GPU to get more power. Could be the case but I doubt it. Getting rid of the full size SD card slot is lame.
XPS13 from 2015- 2022 was always arguably the best little Windows thin and light. Dell has tanked the product all on their own here. How silly.
They look fresh but I'm gutted with the reduction in screen size from 17", the removal of full-sized SD card slot and also the fact that there is only one SSD drive inside and the memory is soldered making you have to pay more up front for memory, instead of being able to upgrade later if your use case demands more RAM.
At least for the 14 and 16, I am amazed that Dell decided to implement all these changes in a single generation. They have made enough changes to frustrate all customers in their own ways. Plenty of folks will not like the keyboard design and trackpad, others will hate the touch bar, and for others the removal of the SD card slot is a deal breaker (I'm in this camp). If they had implemented just one of those changes, it would have only upset that subset, but by doing all three, they have tripled, or at least doubled the number of customers that will no longer consider these as a viable option. A serious mistake on Dell's part, and one I doubt they will be able to remedy...
Always a fan of the haptic touchpad. Borders can always be added with a skin. The dealbreaker for me is the lack of a 2nd SSD option
why do you need a second one? You can buy 8TB m.2 SSDs rn and they arent even expensive
Wish laptop keyboards come with a number pad, especially 16 inch or bigger ones. My work has a big need for a dedicated number pad.
Search up the framework laptops they’re very customizable
Everyone: this xps13 plus touchpad and keyboard is terrible! Dell: hey, lets use the xps13 plus design for ALL our lineup
What a way to kill the range
have we not leant from the old macbook pro? no escape key
I have the xps 15 (9510). The soldered ram is a mistake in my opinion. They are shooting themselves in the foot going down that route. Might as well go with m3 Mac if I choose to update
I have only been using Dell XPS but with this, the absolute deal breaker of not having the physical buttons will ensure that my money goes elsewhere. Non-negotiable.
I have an XPS 15 9510. Looks like I will have to look at the Lenovo X1 Extreme for my next upgrade. Though I am good for the next couple years.
Looks like dell trying to be an apple to non apple customers. The lineup has been milking consumers for years. This years I don’t think it will sell as well as previous years.
My previous XPS frequently experienced touchpad issues. Now, they've opted for a seemingly unreliable approach by eliminating physical function keys. Considering Dell's track record in quality control, I can only hope for the best. However, I have concerns that within two years, these non-physical keys might fail, and by that time, the warranty would likely have lapsed, effectively rendering the computer useless.
Have a 2015 xps13, was ready for an upgrade. Refuse to buy another one without a headphone jack. There is just no reason for it. I love the compact form factor, but at this point, it will either be Asus or framework that gets my money.
I like the changes for the most part. Just have to factor in all the pros and cons. Keep in mind I work with Azure cloud, C#, PowerShell, and Python (for small scripts).
Pros for 14 & 16-inch models: Better battery life, better heat management, better quality web camera for Teams meetings & interviews, and better display fresh rate.
Cons for 14 & 16-inch models: Worse single core performance, RAM is no longer adjustable, electronic Function keys, and no built-in SD card reader (photographers need this).
Is these function row touchscreen like touchbar or just hidden flat touch surface with dedicated limited amount of buttons?
Great coverage!!! I think only the lack of a headphone jack irks me on the 13. Otherwise, the rest of the concessions are non-issues for me.
I love the touch controls, the trackpad looks really dope being seamless and I have never used the SD card slot on my laptops, it is just easier to copy over USB. So I guess these just work for me
8GBs of ram as default in 2024 is wild.
Just to be clear, this is only true of the XPS 13. The XPS 14 and 16 both start at 16GB. And now it's all running in dual-channel, which is nice.
@@lukelarsen8228will this comes with 32 and/or 64? I have a 2017 XPS 13 2in2 at 16/512. Already showing it's performance lag to the Adobe eco-system. Track pad, lack of headphone jack, function keys n micro SD are all non-issue for me. Faster CPU/GPU, more memory n bigger SSD is my use case. I run lightroom classic, lightroom cc, lightroom web, Adobe Express n browser with load of open tabs. Presently it can't handle adding in Photoshop. So new one needs to be able. I use a full size Logitech keyboard with blue tooth n Logitech MX mouse n a 512g microsd permanently insert acting as drive d. For the last 5 years I d/l photos straight from camera via just usb cable. When not travelling it's connect to a dell U3223qe daisy chain to secondary monitor 24x7. Three portable SSD (total 7tb) connects to the monitor. Via a powered hub another 3 portable HDD (total 12tb) is connected to the laptop for a total of 8 drives c to j.
Question.
If a 32g/1tb or more 14" is available n if I were to add another u3223qe, can it and/or windows handle 4 displays in extended mode with a u3223qe daisy chain to a 2nd u3223qe n it itself daisy chain to a third dell monitor? At the monitors max resolution.
15" will be undesirable as I often travel for photography shoots. So a 14" is the max I can tolerate.
Note. Presently not doing video editing. At some point I may dive in video. However any videos will be rudimentary but will opt to go with Adobe eco-system. Presently using Adobe Rush very occasionally. It's possible I will adopt Premiere Pro into my bag but any video work will be basic.
My present 13 2in1 runs AI blur, denoise, enhance, panorama merge like a turtle. Will these new 14" dell be comparable to the Mac M2 series?
Now I can upgrade my XPS 13 9300 4K i7 16/512GB. I'm a big fan of the new XPS design, and I was waiting for an upgraded Webcam, higher refresh rate screen and the return of ports (including headphone jack and microSD card reader) before I upgrade. I know they did not bring ports back on the XPS 13 but I'll be getting the 14" OLED, unless of course if Dell offers a 4K IPS with 120hz refresh rate option.
I like how you borrowed the phrase "curb appeal" from another comment you responded to and reused it here. 🤣🤣@@Heat67
What's dumb is it probably cost more to build in those function keys. Did Apple's touch bar designer get fired and rehired at Dell?
I used Macbook PRO M1 for three years and last year my company gave me an XPS13 carbon-fiber model. I really love this computer and was thinking abount buying other, but the lack of 3.5mm and no ESC key is a no-no. And it's sad, as this is an amazing model, but they took all the bad ideas from the Plus line. I'll go have to go for the Macbook Pro :(
what noone has failed to mention is that there are no vents underneath which means you can sit this on your lap without overheating
Tbh I don’t like the seamless trackpad and touch function buttons. Didn’t they learn anything when Apple launched and scrapped the Touch Bar?
Not too sure about how I feel about the keyboard for the XPS 14/16 models. From a Programmer/Software Engineering POV, it's definitely not ideal. Everything else on paper is seemingly good though.
I am okay with the touchpad, but I am not with the function keys and I had XPS notebooks since 2015.
I like that the new 16" Dell XPS16 has the newest wifi 7 instead of the older wifi 6e that the new 16" Samsung galaxy book 4's have. I also like that the 16" Dell is actually 16.3" while the new 16" Samsung is apparently just 15.6". That the 16" Dell is actually more, is actually 16.3", it helps me get over the loss of the 17", a little bit less of a drop in screen size. I am anxious to learn about the battery life of the XPS 16, and compare the Samsungs and the Dells in that regard.
The trackpad choice and lack of function keys make this a No Buy for me.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm curious if there's just one SSD slot on the 16". Also, do you know if they improved the cooling for the cpu / gpu and did they limit the RTX GPU's to 40W like before? The camera will be a welcome upgrade, but I kinda hate the "plus" feature of that function bar, the headphone jack is kinda ugly and the "AI" assistance reminds me of Skynet lol
Dang! They should have kept the full size sd card slot. Now instead of a little adapter, you have to carry around a dongle.
8GB ram especially in 2024 is such an insult to consumers, I give Dell a big F u.
I hope the XPS final production model does a great job. They are one of the main competitor to apple laptops.
There is also z16 from lenovo as well
I hate Apple but still hope this sells like crap to prove the point of the horrible decision to not include function keys. God why are they so dumb to shove these stupid design decisions over our asses. They should at least launched another model with the Fn keys... For now bye Dell, you just lost a customer who used to buy your laptops for over 15 years. Guess I gotta try Lenovo next.
now competing at prices too😂
Another step back :( Micro SD, that touch pad and that function row.. Why would they allow such bull. So for now only the Lenovo Yoga 9 Pro 14 will fulfill what I need. That is so sad, I was looking forward to the new Dell XPS laptops.
Capacitive function keys. Why Dell, why???
I wish the 14" had a 4060 option, full size SD card, and WiFi7 instead of WiFi6E. The 16" has the 4060 option and WiFi7 but it's just too big for all the times I'm actually using it on my lap roaming around the place. I understand that 4060 is probably too much heat for the 14" and I can live with the 4050, but man would it be good to have full size SD and Wifi7 and it wouldn't kill them to put that in.
Holy shit my favorite laptops are ruined
With the new capacitive keys they just gave Lenovo millions of new customers. Every and each of the developers and Content editors.
form fails function. loved my og 9550 xps. this one looks counter-intuitive and everything feels frustratingly anti-user
For me, as a student, these look like a great option, I hate the look of the new MacBooks, these have a great curb appeal that would make using one feel nicer, provided the keyboard feels good to me personally
I think I'm gonna stick with my MacBook Pro 14 and 16 inch with the vivid brightness application
No physical function keys = no purchase. Simple as that. Dell should make them full-size, as in the new Mac Books. It's a true no-go for programmers.
I'll stick with my AMD Ryzen 7 thanks.
I was planning to purchase both the new XPS 14 and the new U4025QW monitor having a 5K resolution @120Hz refresh rate. I actually ordered the XPS 14 and then got in doubt if it could support the resolution of U4025QW and called Dell technical support. Although he was not very sure he didn't believe it would support the mentioned resolution and refresh rate. I ended cancelling my order. :-) Do you by chance have any comments or input in that regard? maybe more details on what generally is required (by a windows pc) to support 5K @120Hz? Thanks!.
in fairness dell does have inspiron for budget offerrings so no point really have two brands competing with each other
Well is there any chance to get an XPS 16 with a Mini LED as a Option??? Because OLED JUST SUCKS! Why only OLED for higher Resolutions?
Is the ram still upgradable??
I definitely think this is a major downgrade on all fronts. Worse design that is much more susceptible to damge because of the glass decklid, much worse keyboard from most people's perspective, no AMD option which is a shame and the biggest problem is that it does not allow for upgrades. Previous XPS 15 and 17 devices had an extra M.2 Slot and replaceable memory. Micro SD is another downgrade from the Full size SD of previous models. I hope very few people buy this so that they take a hint.
100% agree. I hate the capacitive function row and downgrade from reg sd to micro sd slot just doesn't make sense for laptops of this price/use case. I don't think dell knows or understands who their target audience is for these machines
Why would Dell replace the port from a full-size SD slot to a mini-full-size? Oyyyy… :(
Awful changes. Add back a physical function row. Focus on battery life and size. Make RAM modifiable again. XPS 16 is too big.
Wanted old model 14inc but limited choices.😢
This is the one I have been waiting for for years
I don’t understand this fixation on touch buttons on laptops or cars.
Does Dell offer manual fan control?
Watch our full review of the Dell XPS 14: ruclips.net/video/wwBz9CQBIuU/видео.html
Ouch, that was NOT was I was hoping for.... 15" is the perfect size for me.... anything larger is too large portability, so I would have to go down to 14" and sacrifice some screen and battery size :( and no function keys is the deal breaker. I use them all the times, as a developer, windows super user, and gamer. RIP
I have a new 13" XPS at work with no physical function keys - I have to say it is terrible. I have to use external keyboard when I use excel cause the touch sensitive keyboard need to "touch" twice many times. ugh. Good god, all the new models will have the same keyboard? And I was thinking about my personal old XPS. So I guess I will just keep it :)
How to make your product worse, smh..
Dell giving customers reasons to look elsewhere, too bad for them.
Does Dell works great with Linux instead of Windows !?
Honestly , I was hoping Dell would remove the carbon fiber ,and they did , now they’re given me a reason to wait another year or two.
Those capacitive function keys are just unnecessary.
It’s almost as though Dell is trying to copy The Macs design philosophy without making it obvious. I’m definitely sitting this one out.
Keys with no space bettween them, ah I love to get confuse when reaching for keys
If it's using the same cooling as the xps 15 then it's gonna be a nonstarter for most people. Comparing the performance of the MacBook pro with the existing xps line is a joke since Intel CPUs are power hungry and the xps 15 was severely power limited because the thin chassis and cooling couldn't handle full performance. They need major changes inside and proof that this isn't yet another gimped $2k+ laptop. The loss of the cheaper xps options is no big deal, as many inspiron models are almost just as good and sometimes better for much cheaper.
Dell swapped the SD card slot for the micro SD slot? Really Dell!! What are you thinking? Bring back the SD card slot.
Huge disappointment. Like many have said, the touchbar and seamless trackpad is a no-go for me. I already miss the old design. Guess I'll have to wait this generation out.
I think the design is amazing. News flash,not everyone who uses an XPS is a “content creator”, there is actually a world of users outside of the “influencer world”
...am I the only one who actually likes these machines?
we need dell to update the msft surface pro alternative aka the dell detachable to latest gen cpu... they are still selling overpriced and old intel gen11 stuff.
Looks beautiful. But if you actually need to use the keyboard rather than just look at it - well, good luck :D It was only a few years ago that XPS was my absolute go to choice. Since they started making unusable keyboards then I've been buying Asus or LG the last few years. Dell is going downhill FAST
Is WiFi7 an option?
get a lenovo slim pro 9i guys
Dell just lost a Customer, because I wont be upgrading from my Dell XPS 15 9510
This is the end of XPS, Dell completely ruined it.
i mean who the hell is using micro sd card? I get it, gopro type camera and drones, but are they more than people using dlsr and mirroless? i really doubt it. Even Apple put back the full size sd card reader and hdmi, Dell has just successfully made their card reader usless for many people now
"but are they more than people using dlsr and mirroless?"
At this point probably yes...
@@floz9718more gopro and drone user than dslr and mirroless users? The camera market is still considered a major market and sports camera is considered a small segment
@@frankhu8692 Maybe... could be that I'm wrong this is just my subjective observation. I just feel like every other person is running around with drone or a gopro...
I love the zero-latice keyboard
Sound like New stuff should except better than Mac
Photographers can buy the older model. It will be cheaper now
I hope they've finally dealt with the horrible heat issues they've had.
such a letdown lol jeez what was Dell thinking
capacitive buttons = 100% deal breaker
what the hell is up with the brightness wars, it doesn't make any sense when the screens are bright and reflective, all you see is yourself. use matte screens with descent brightness (400nits) and you're good. Otherwise, you'll just murder your battery life with display at 1000 nits outdoor. Besides, the quality of display is not its brightness. Somehow, these reviewers are apple fans boys, they want everything to come with 'Apple specifications'. the new XPS is amazing. and no, developers won't be mad at the capacitive touch row. why assume its not going to work? because Apple couldn't figure out their design? at least let people experience it before you start throwing shade....