I'm not sure if Weber would approve, but I have discovered the gap grate will fit just as nicely behind the flat top griddle if I pull the flat top all the way forward using the framekit in my SE-S-335. This saves some heat on my knuckles while cooking.
It does but for safety reasons they don’t recommend that way. They never elaborated or explained to me why in particular but I did ask that question as I realized that before making the video. - Sam
The hooks are to place it on a baking tray before/after using it. Kind of like a drip tray or to protect the table/counter top from the residual heat. I saw it in another video.
Just replaced my old genesis with an E-335, with the new system. I added the Wok/steamer last week and the 60% griddle this week. I can use the steamer tray for grilled veggies as well. Tonight will be pizza on a green egg stone. Interested in the cross hatched grate and maybe a rotisserie with skewers.
Great video, loved the background Music as well, I think the hooks at the side of the basket are just there to lock the basket into the framekit so it can not move from side to side, which can happen if you mix the veggies from time to time with the grill tong for instance.
Thanks for watching. Appreciate the kind words. You would think but the hooks don’t actually grip anything including the frame. That’s what I figured too initially but nope. - Sam
Yes. That is if you bought a second frame kit. Weber says to use the Flat Top between 400-500 degrees on the grill. Not saying you can’t go higher but I’m not sure why they don’t want the grill hotter than that. So you may have some limitations based on that if you follow directions. - Sam
Great video. I just received the Genesis E-315 and I wasn’t sure what to with the included frame kit. One question: What is the sear zone red colored burner knob for? It seemed to ignite a burner, but is it only for using the sear zone to make it hotter?
It’s called a sear zone in that section as it adds a burner between the middle and right side for extra heat. Not a true sear burner but creates a zone of more heat for better searing. The hotter the temp, the better the sear on foods and grill marks. You can use it if you feel like you need it. It’s not required to use for Crafted accessories but can help with the sear grate and wok for sure. Griddle doesn’t need it on. - Sam
The only issue I have with the flat top griddle with the griddle grate in place is the heat that comes up out of the space in front of the griddle. It is very uncomfortable even with heavy duty gloves, which are their own issue when griddling. I don't use the spacer grate and move the griddle forward in the frame so that excess heat can escape out the back. This has the added benefit of minimizing the chance of burns from the heating rack. p.s. I really like that your rig is obviously well used and no a brand new unit to look pretty in the video.
I see what you’re saying. It can be annoying at certain times but just comes with the territory. Appreciate you sharing your comments. Thank you for watching. - Sam
Hey Sam. Solid video. I just purchased an S-325. I chose the stainless steel over the E-325 enameled version as it seemed to be the better option. However if the double sided sear grate is enameled, did I make the wrong choice? Is this adapter really necessary for steaks? We’re a ribeye family.
@@MemphisDC no. If you were to compare the basic porcelain enamel grates to the sear grate, the coating is clearly different. Cast iron heats up better than stainless steel because it holds the heat in better. The stainless grates will clean up better and are much sturdier than the basic cast iron grates. This is probably a 10-year grill for you, if not longer. We find our clients want new cast iron grates in half that time whereas our clients with stainless rarely ever need to replace until it’s time for a new grill. I would use as is and if you feel you need more heat, then the accessory would be worth it in your case. The flat top accessory or full griddle is 100% worth it. It’s my favorite way to prep burgers. Thanks for watching and the kind words. - Sam
@@justgrillin Thanks for the prompt response and explanation. That makes more sense that the sear grate is a different finish that their regular enamel grates. I actually got the 335 grill with the side burner but you sold me on the flat top for the burgers and likely get the sear grill as well. Thanks again!
Someone said it's for baking trays to keep it raised above the base so it doesn't burn the pan. I will have to check. The hooks don't let you hang it on the back of the grill for the position. - Sam
Great video and thanks for the highlights. Would love to see a cooking comparison of the Weber griddle accessory vs something like a Lodge cast iron griddle that is left inside.
Appreciate the kind words. The Flat Top is carbon steel so it’s not as dense as a cast iron skillet would be. The trade off is the cast iron skillet will hold heat better and hotter but the carbon steel heats up relatively faster. The Flat Top gives you more space than a skillet would. Cooking results wise probably isn’t very much of a difference. - Sam
I just put together my Gensis S435 today, and was trying to figure out what the circle grate and extra small grate were for. This answered my question, thanks!
Which accessory? The griddle is self cleaning in a way. Immediately after cooking, pour a small amount of water or ice cubes while the griddle is hot and use a scraper to remove foods. Then just come back through with a lite oil application and it’s good to go. I leave it in the grill. The veggie basket could go in the dishwasher (top rack). It’s just big so you would probably run it by itself. Or just high heat burn off and brush as needed. Sear grate would just be high heat scrubbing. Or you could soap and water from the hose if needed. The baking stone you just heat to high and brush off remnants. That answer your question? - Sam
@2:44 would you need to remove the sear grates below the flat top, in case you want to put a wok or dutch oven there? If so, is that also to provide direct heat access to the cookware?
You wouldn’t have the sear grate in at the same time as another Crafted accessory. The Frame Kit needs to stay in the grill and that will support the wok or dutch oven. Yes, it would be direct flame underneath. - Sam
Would like to see a better demo of the wok please and thank. Exactly what the grate should look like without the wok and then putting the wok on. Where can you guide me to?
@@thoppy9508 It's pretty straight forward if you were standing in front of it. The Crafted Frame Kit has a hold in the center. That hole is the right size for the Wok and Dutch Oven to rest inside/be supported. If you're familiar with the Weber Gourmet BBQ System, it's basically the same concept. RUclips is supposed to start letting us do video replies soon but still don't see that capability enabled yet. I would do that otherwise to make it visually easier for you. - Sam
@@johnallen3340 you get the standard cooking grate with the grill but Crafted accessories like the Sear Grate or Flat Top Griddle are purchased separately. - Sam
@@jerryrubinek8905 you could. Just depends on the person. I personally like the flat top because the maintenance is easier than a cast iron pan. There’s also more real estate than the pan and you can cook things in separate sections without mixing juices of everything together. A cast iron pan is useful for many things. Great to have both really. - Sam
I just bought a Costco genesis ii. Looks like it’s a 2021 model. It’s the stainless steeler 4 burner. Do I really need to replace my grates with other grates so this thing will fit? Or can I just put this system and and only keep one side of the grill grates I have on now? Obviously created wasted space but I feel like buying $200 grates doesn’t make sense.
You don’t have to buy new grates but you’ll be limited to using the Crafted accessory only when cooking on the lower grates. If you want to cook at the same time with the cooking grates when using a Crafted accessory then you will want to replace the grates to get the right fit. - Sam
@@justgrillin Yes, I'm referring to the sear plus ELX 24 and the sear plus ELX 36. Also, Do you think the ELX 36 produces a cleaner smoke at lower temps since it's burning a hotter fire to maintain the temperature of a larger pit?
@@crowtoon size of the grill doesn’t really matter for the Crafted System. You’d still have space to grill at the same time with one of the Crafted Accessories on the ELX4. We just delivered that size to a client and I thought the sizing was fine. Similar scenario. He’s only cooking for two. I cooked on the EX4 for years until the new model and went to the bigger. I haven’t noticed a difference between one burning cleaner than the other. Flavor and smoke has been consistent taste from both sizes IMO. - Sam
What’s the point of the spacer that comes in the kit and is placed in the front? Why didn’t they just make the griddle & other options the same depth as the grates that come with the grill?
I get your point and sentiment. It might not seem like it makes sense but the reason is to streamline the accessories. Rather than offering the same accessory in multiple sizes based on the grill, it’s easier to make one accessory and a few different frame kit sizes instead. These accessories are designed for use on Spirit, Genesis and SmokeFire grills. All of those grills have different depths. The gap grate is much thinner on the SmokeFire than it is on the Genesis grills. - Sam
We just got a S-325 and my wife and I love baking pizzas and was wondering the exact same thing. Can we not just place our current pizza stone on top of the grills? Have you tried this yet? Did it work well for you?
@@MemphisDC I haven't but as far as I understand now, you can definitely place it on top of the grates. The frame kit simply gets the stone closer to the heat so it gets hotter. But I'm not sure how much this really matters.
I'm not sure if Weber would approve, but I have discovered the gap grate will fit just as nicely behind the flat top griddle if I pull the flat top all the way forward using the framekit in my SE-S-335. This saves some heat on my knuckles while cooking.
It does but for safety reasons they don’t recommend that way. They never elaborated or explained to me why in particular but I did ask that question as I realized that before making the video.
- Sam
The hooks are to place it on a baking tray before/after using it. Kind of like a drip tray or to protect the table/counter top from the residual heat. I saw it in another video.
Thanks for the tip! I will have to try it out and see.
- Sam
Just replaced my old genesis with an E-335, with the new system. I added the Wok/steamer last week and the 60% griddle this week. I can use the steamer tray for grilled veggies as well. Tonight will be pizza on a green egg stone. Interested in the cross hatched grate and maybe a rotisserie with skewers.
The Sear Grate is worth it. The Rotisserie Skewers is not something we get many requests for.
- Sam
Very informative video!
Thank you. Appreciate the kind words.
- Sam
Great video, loved the background Music as well, I think the hooks at the side of the basket are just there to lock the basket into the framekit so it can not move from side to side, which can happen if you mix the veggies from time to time with the grill tong for instance.
Thanks for watching. Appreciate the kind words. You would think but the hooks don’t actually grip anything including the frame. That’s what I figured too initially but nope.
- Sam
Great video , would it be possible to put the flat top and the sear grate side by side in a smokefire ex6
Yes. That is if you bought a second frame kit. Weber says to use the Flat Top between 400-500 degrees on the grill. Not saying you can’t go higher but I’m not sure why they don’t want the grill hotter than that. So you may have some limitations based on that if you follow directions.
- Sam
thanks a lot @@justgrillin
@@justgrillin can I use two frame kits for s315 genesis or that grill it's too small?
@ too small. Gotta go with the four burner Genesis to do that kind of setup.
Great video. I just received the Genesis E-315 and I wasn’t sure what to with the included frame kit. One question: What is the sear zone red colored burner knob for? It seemed to ignite a burner, but is it only for using the sear zone to make it hotter?
It’s called a sear zone in that section as it adds a burner between the middle and right side for extra heat. Not a true sear burner but creates a zone of more heat for better searing. The hotter the temp, the better the sear on foods and grill marks. You can use it if you feel like you need it. It’s not required to use for Crafted accessories but can help with the sear grate and wok for sure. Griddle doesn’t need it on.
- Sam
Thanks we just bought the s-335 grill and Lowes had the baking stone and frame kit on sale!
If you bought the S-335, your grill should already be equipped with the frame kit. Thanks for watching.
- Sam
@@justgrillin it's equipped but no additional accessories. All good can't wait!
@@Southern-Deplorable okay. Just checking to make sure you didn’t buy the frame Kit additionally.
@@justgrillin thanks so much, I checked and it wasn't there. Great job on that video sir!
The only issue I have with the flat top griddle with the griddle grate in place is the heat that comes up out of the space in front of the griddle. It is very uncomfortable even with heavy duty gloves, which are their own issue when griddling. I don't use the spacer grate and move the griddle forward in the frame so that excess heat can escape out the back. This has the added benefit of minimizing the chance of burns from the heating rack.
p.s. I really like that your rig is obviously well used and no a brand new unit to look pretty in the video.
I see what you’re saying. It can be annoying at certain times but just comes with the territory. Appreciate you sharing your comments. Thank you for watching.
- Sam
Hey Sam. Solid video.
I just purchased an S-325. I chose the stainless steel over the E-325 enameled version as it seemed to be the better option. However if the double sided sear grate is enameled, did I make the wrong choice? Is this adapter really necessary for steaks? We’re a ribeye family.
@@MemphisDC no. If you were to compare the basic porcelain enamel grates to the sear grate, the coating is clearly different. Cast iron heats up better than stainless steel because it holds the heat in better. The stainless grates will clean up better and are much sturdier than the basic cast iron grates. This is probably a 10-year grill for you, if not longer. We find our clients want new cast iron grates in half that time whereas our clients with stainless rarely ever need to replace until it’s time for a new grill.
I would use as is and if you feel you need more heat, then the accessory would be worth it in your case. The flat top accessory or full griddle is 100% worth it. It’s my favorite way to prep burgers.
Thanks for watching and the kind words.
- Sam
@@justgrillin Thanks for the prompt response and explanation. That makes more sense that the sear grate is a different finish that their regular enamel grates. I actually got the 335 grill with the side burner but you sold me on the flat top for the burgers and likely get the sear grill as well. Thanks again!
The Weber ecosystem, the Apple of grills.
Nicely done ! Very informative
Good review.
Appreciate that. Thank you.
- Sam
5:30 the hooks should allow you to hang the accessory on the back of your grill
Someone said it's for baking trays to keep it raised above the base so it doesn't burn the pan. I will have to check. The hooks don't let you hang it on the back of the grill for the position.
- Sam
Great video and thanks for the highlights. Would love to see a cooking comparison of the Weber griddle accessory vs something like a Lodge cast iron griddle that is left inside.
Appreciate the kind words.
The Flat Top is carbon steel so it’s not as dense as a cast iron skillet would be. The trade off is the cast iron skillet will hold heat better and hotter but the carbon steel heats up relatively faster. The Flat Top gives you more space than a skillet would.
Cooking results wise probably isn’t very much of a difference.
- Sam
I just put together my Gensis S435 today, and was trying to figure out what the circle grate and extra small grate were for. This answered my question, thanks!
Where do you clean your accessories? Kitchen sink or too large and heavy requiring outdoor hose/sink?
Which accessory? The griddle is self cleaning in a way. Immediately after cooking, pour a small amount of water or ice cubes while the griddle is hot and use a scraper to remove foods. Then just come back through with a lite oil application and it’s good to go. I leave it in the grill.
The veggie basket could go in the dishwasher (top rack). It’s just big so you would probably run it by itself. Or just high heat burn off and brush as needed.
Sear grate would just be high heat scrubbing. Or you could soap and water from the hose if needed.
The baking stone you just heat to high and brush off remnants.
That answer your question?
- Sam
@2:44 would you need to remove the sear grates below the flat top, in case you want to put a wok or dutch oven there? If so, is that also to provide direct heat access to the cookware?
You wouldn’t have the sear grate in at the same time as another Crafted accessory. The Frame Kit needs to stay in the grill and that will support the wok or dutch oven. Yes, it would be direct flame underneath.
- Sam
Would like to see a better demo of the wok please and thank. Exactly what the grate should look like without the wok and then putting the wok on. Where can you guide me to?
@@thoppy9508 It's pretty straight forward if you were standing in front of it. The Crafted Frame Kit has a hold in the center. That hole is the right size for the Wok and Dutch Oven to rest inside/be supported. If you're familiar with the Weber Gourmet BBQ System, it's basically the same concept.
RUclips is supposed to start letting us do video replies soon but still don't see that capability enabled yet. I would do that otherwise to make it visually easier for you.
- Sam
E-435... Does it come with anything to fill in the space on the right side, or do i need to buy one of the accessories. Thanks.
@@johnallen3340 you get the standard cooking grate with the grill but Crafted accessories like the Sear Grate or Flat Top Griddle are purchased separately.
- Sam
You can use a cast iron pan on top of the grill and will do the same
@@jerryrubinek8905 you could. Just depends on the person. I personally like the flat top because the maintenance is easier than a cast iron pan. There’s also more real estate than the pan and you can cook things in separate sections without mixing juices of everything together. A cast iron pan is useful for many things. Great to have both really.
- Sam
I just bought a Costco genesis ii. Looks like it’s a 2021 model. It’s the stainless steeler 4 burner. Do I really need to replace my grates with other grates so this thing will fit?
Or can I just put this system and and only keep one side of the grill grates I have on now? Obviously created wasted space but I feel like buying $200 grates doesn’t make sense.
You don’t have to buy new grates but you’ll be limited to using the Crafted accessory only when cooking on the lower grates. If you want to cook at the same time with the cooking grates when using a Crafted accessory then you will want to replace the grates to get the right fit.
- Sam
Would this crafted system work just as good with the 24" grill or is the 36" a must have? I only cook for 3 to 4 people.
Can you clarify which models you’re referring to?
- Sam
@@justgrillin Yes, I'm referring to the sear plus ELX 24 and the sear plus ELX 36. Also, Do you think the ELX 36 produces a cleaner smoke at lower temps since it's burning a hotter fire to maintain the temperature of a larger pit?
@@crowtoon size of the grill doesn’t really matter for the Crafted System. You’d still have space to grill at the same time with one of the Crafted Accessories on the ELX4. We just delivered that size to a client and I thought the sizing was fine. Similar scenario. He’s only cooking for two.
I cooked on the EX4 for years until the new model and went to the bigger. I haven’t noticed a difference between one burning cleaner than the other. Flavor and smoke has been consistent taste from both sizes IMO.
- Sam
@@justgrillin Thank you Sam.
What’s the point of the spacer that comes in the kit and is placed in the front? Why didn’t they just make the griddle & other options the same depth as the grates that come with the grill?
I get your point and sentiment. It might not seem like it makes sense but the reason is to streamline the accessories. Rather than offering the same accessory in multiple sizes based on the grill, it’s easier to make one accessory and a few different frame kit sizes instead. These accessories are designed for use on Spirit, Genesis and SmokeFire grills. All of those grills have different depths. The gap grate is much thinner on the SmokeFire than it is on the Genesis grills.
- Sam
@@justgrillin makes sense, thank you!
What's the benefit of the crafted frame kit versus just buying a griddle or pizza stone and putting it right on top of the grates?
Holds everything in place and will keep the accessories more level. The frame kit can support a wok too.
- Sam
@@justgrillin thanks!
We just got a S-325 and my wife and I love baking pizzas and was wondering the exact same thing. Can we not just place our current pizza stone on top of the grills?
Have you tried this yet? Did it work well for you?
@@MemphisDC I haven't but as far as I understand now, you can definitely place it on top of the grates. The frame kit simply gets the stone closer to the heat so it gets hotter. But I'm not sure how much this really matters.
@@MikeKayK Thanks for the response! Makes perfect sense. I’m sure my wife will try it soon. Letcha know how it goes!
Can griddle be dishwashed? 🤔🤔
@@st252297 negative. As long as you use high heat and a scraper, that’s all you need to clean it. Very simple and easy.
- Sam
nice legs bro
Thank you. I train them a few times a week so it’s always nice to see hard work paying off.
- Sam
This guy sounds like he sells propane and propane accessories
Might need one of those $8 beers after reading this comment.
I'll stick to some Alamo