Exactly. There will always be differences and division that are expressed in all sorts of ways. Even in places these days that are essentially ethnically homogeneous people find ways to hate each other for arbitrary reasons. The circle of life or whatever lol.
Woodard's American Nations book is a decent intro to this topic. Fischer's Albion's Seed is long, but especially a good analysis into the differences between these sub-cultures and the imprint they had on the land they settled. Another good book that touches a bit on the socio-political influence of these sub-cultures is Kevin Philips' The Emerging Republican Majority.
I love Fisher's book, but it concentrates too exclusively on the British. Two other MAJOR early influences were the Dutch, whose religiously-tolerant mercantilism in New Amsterdam is seen by some (the book Island at the Center of the World) as a more original source of secular capitalism, and an enormous German Protestant population, especially in Pennsylvania and up the Hudson-Mohawk valleys. In terms of political precedence, population numbers, and sophisticated culture, these settlers constitute significant fifth and sixth pre-Revolutionary influences. If you were raised in these areas you know how powerfully these cultures still influence American values.
None of that is true, as Germans were the minority even in Pennsylvania as shown by the 1790 Census (English were the vast majority of every colony then states), and into the MidWest. It was Anglos fighting the French/Indians and making Treaties with Indians, and doing the likes of the Lewis Clarke expedition and surveying the land and planning new infrastructure and towns/counties and expanding West. The MidWest is a distinctively Anglo and Anglo-French creation, and everything about it shows this. 3/4 of German Americans are post-Civil War economic migrants, after America had already overtaken Britain, i.e they moved into our country and it was already richer and more developed than Germany was. Albions Seed perfectly describes the make up of America but of course the other smaller demographics resent this as they think they shaped the culture, but they clearly didn't as even in "German" cities the character is English and French, as the cities were already being built up (Chicago has been built twice). Tocqueville wasn't writing about Germans was he; he was writing about Anglos, and even Supreme Court Justice Scalia conceded that our culture is English, and French sociologist Emmanuel Todd shows the social make up of America is English, and not, at all, the family structure of Germany. BTW NYC's Dutch population was absolutely tiny, and they never repopulated it. It was the English that turned NYC into a world city from a village, not the Dutch and the street names of Manhattan show this, as the South East coastline was the early Dutch settlement, and the rest English in character and names. The map used at 8:34, is clearly outdated as you can see on the Census website, and it was based on bs from the start. www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/detailed-race-ethnicities-2020-census.html You should try and learn to cope with the fact America isn't what you want it to be, it is what is is, and it is Anglo-Saxon and British culture, not any other European country, other than the influences France and Spain left across the South coast and into the SW (but both were demographically replaced early on). There is nothing German in America, other than this cringe, gimmick "culture" of claiming certain ancient food types are "German", as if bratwursts are equal to Common Law and the Constitution. That said, Germans did import communism, i.e an anti-American ideology, and they seem proud of this fact. But other that turning Anglo cities into black crime infested wastelands, there is no German culture in America.
I have heard some academic critiques of David Hackett Fischer's Albion's Seed. One I heard before was that Fischer's section on the Puritans was "based on a small selection of 19th century reminisces, rather than contemporary sources." How would you respond to this, and other critiques?
Thank you Bradley! That was a real help to get a picture on the multifacetted United States!
Great job! Your summary was very insightful!
Cavemen were no different than modern humans today as to being divided. We have always been in each other's faces since our ancestors.
Exactly. There will always be differences and division that are expressed in all sorts of ways. Even in places these days that are essentially ethnically homogeneous people find ways to hate each other for arbitrary reasons. The circle of life or whatever lol.
@@FindTheTruthBeforeTheEndDoesn't have to happen.
Woodard's American Nations book is a decent intro to this topic. Fischer's Albion's Seed is long, but especially a good analysis into the differences between these sub-cultures and the imprint they had on the land they settled. Another good book that touches a bit on the socio-political influence of these sub-cultures is Kevin Philips' The Emerging Republican Majority.
Amazing job! Keep up the good work!!
I love Fisher's book, but it concentrates too exclusively on the British. Two other MAJOR early influences were the Dutch, whose religiously-tolerant mercantilism in New Amsterdam is seen by some (the book Island at the Center of the World) as a more original source of secular capitalism, and an enormous German Protestant population, especially in Pennsylvania and up the Hudson-Mohawk valleys. In terms of political precedence, population numbers, and sophisticated culture, these settlers constitute significant fifth and sixth pre-Revolutionary influences. If you were raised in these areas you know how powerfully these cultures still influence American values.
Great points made!
None of that is true, as Germans were the minority even in Pennsylvania as shown by the 1790 Census (English were the vast majority of every colony then states), and into the MidWest. It was Anglos fighting the French/Indians and making Treaties with Indians, and doing the likes of the Lewis Clarke expedition and surveying the land and planning new infrastructure and towns/counties and expanding West. The MidWest is a distinctively Anglo and Anglo-French creation, and everything about it shows this.
3/4 of German Americans are post-Civil War economic migrants, after America had already overtaken Britain, i.e they moved into our country and it was already richer and more developed than Germany was.
Albions Seed perfectly describes the make up of America but of course the other smaller demographics resent this as they think they shaped the culture, but they clearly didn't as even in "German" cities the character is English and French, as the cities were already being built up (Chicago has been built twice). Tocqueville wasn't writing about Germans was he; he was writing about Anglos, and even Supreme Court Justice Scalia conceded that our culture is English, and French sociologist Emmanuel Todd shows the social make up of America is English, and not, at all, the family structure of Germany. BTW NYC's Dutch population was absolutely tiny, and they never repopulated it. It was the English that turned NYC into a world city from a village, not the Dutch and the street names of Manhattan show this, as the South East coastline was the early Dutch settlement, and the rest English in character and names.
The map used at 8:34, is clearly outdated as you can see on the Census website, and it was based on bs from the start. www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/detailed-race-ethnicities-2020-census.html
You should try and learn to cope with the fact America isn't what you want it to be, it is what is is, and it is Anglo-Saxon and British culture, not any other European country, other than the influences France and Spain left across the South coast and into the SW (but both were demographically replaced early on).
There is nothing German in America, other than this cringe, gimmick "culture" of claiming certain ancient food types are "German", as if bratwursts are equal to Common Law and the Constitution. That said, Germans did import communism, i.e an anti-American ideology, and they seem proud of this fact. But other that turning Anglo cities into black crime infested wastelands, there is no German culture in America.
I would tend to think that is more than 15 percent English closer to 25.
I have heard some academic critiques of David Hackett Fischer's Albion's Seed. One I heard before was that Fischer's section on the Puritans was "based on a small selection of 19th century reminisces, rather than contemporary sources." How would you respond to this, and other critiques?
Did Thomas Sowell actually use those polysyllabic, PC words “African American?”
"They?"
Did he say “Native American” as well?
what else what you say indian?🤣
Native American is the only term lol
@@FOGGYlama123Indigenous or aboriginal. I was born in America. My nativity is American.
@@thermionic1234567 I agree with that last part I've been saying that for awhile but the alternatives sound like shit
@@FOGGYlama123theres always injun lmao
All of eastern North Carolina is the deep south and not tidewater.