Love your work. I think this is an unusual avenue for you to explore a theme rather than a neighbourhood. I found it most engaging as most of your vids are. I enjoy the history of London (and other towns) as it relates to pubs. It is very important to preserve our history as best as we can rather than allow it to be brushed aside. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks Brian! It's an idea I had in August last year, when I was making a video on Mayfair pubs, in the early days of the channel. I'd already reached my usual number of five pubs and had some slight regret about missing out the (two) Coach and Horses there, so this seemed like a good way to cover them instead.
You deserved that extra pint for hitting 10K subs - what an achievement and thoroughly deserved - there should be a RUclips plaque! My favourite pub in this collection was the Coach and Horses. The Greek Street one! There’s something optimistic about those interwar designs - sort of modern, but retaining key traditional pub elements - the spittoon was incredible. Jeffrey Bernard would have known that interior when it was still relatively new, I guess. And he joined it in aging over many decades. Finding that guide to the coaching stops was a great piece of detective work and provides the answer for many of them, it seems . I suppose as London grew, the name was a good way to provide familiarity and reassurance too. Excellent work and great to see the increasing discovery of the channel.
Thank you for the kind words on the 10K milestone Mr WC21! There was definitely a jubilant air in the Tweedy household on Tuesday! Yes the Greek Street one is undoubtedly my favourite too, and perhaps it's a testament to the way some pubs have a kind of magical quality whereas others just don't. It's obviously not just down to the name! Nor the location - there are three Coaches and Horses(es?) in Soho alone! I think it must be at least in part due to the decor, but I suppose there's also a kind of snowball effect that interesting characters tend to attract other interesting characters, and they all end up congregating in one place, leaving the other nearby pubs looking a bit perfunctory. Yes I think finding Fielding's Hackney Coach Guide was the real breakthrough here in terms of the pub history research, which coupled with the old maps was very instructive. It must have been a huge undertaking at the time, walking round London measuring all those distances from each of those 90 coach stands to numerous different destinations. 20,000 fares in total! I found the whole thing quite fascinating, and could have talked for much longer about the topic, but the video was already a bit too long as it was - not least because it was six (well I suppose seven) rather than the usual five pubs, but also because I kept getting distracted by asides like that pickle manufactory. Once I had heard that pair of words I just couldn't bring myself to cut that bit from the final video.
Lucky future historians who'll be able to rely on such informative and brilliantly crafted material ! And lucky are we to enjoy it at the present time ! Cheers and long live to you Tweedy !
Hello Tweedy. Reaching 10k is well deserved and long overdue. Your dedication to the cause of researching and visiting each pub is to be commended, as is your love of “pubby pubs” and proper, non citrusy real ale. We salute you sir. Cheers 👏👏👍😀🍺 Now to go and research the origins of my local pubs, The Castle, The Green Man, The Elephant & Castle, The Jolly Farmer and the Wheelright Arms 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
More great content sure your channel will continue to go from strength to strength. Thanks for taking the time to research so thoroughly. Hope you enjoyed your 1/2 pints. Well deserved. All the best Pete 🍻
Another very enjoyable and interesting video, very nice clear commentary at a good speed, as always for those whose first language is not English, Many Thanks.
Superb content Tweedy. Your class upbringing lifts you way above the usual hoi polloi of the standard oiks that peddle their “content”. Touch of class old boy don’t you know 👍
Thanks Simon! I actually had a pretty humble upbringing but I do find architecture / pub interiors / history really interesting and I suppose that's a big part of what sets my videos apart from other people making "content" about pubs. I'm sure this isn't everyone's cup of tea but it's nice to hear some people are interested.
Wonderful and much deserved congratulations for reaching 10k subscribers! You're ploughing a lovely and enjoyable seam of interest for many and I'm sure your channel will grow from strength to strength!
A highly enjoyable and informative vid. I must admit I was one of those people who presumed all Coach and Horses pubs were at some point in time a coaching inn without ever stopping to wonder where they'd have stabled the horses.
Thanks Phil! I'm sure there are some examples of Coach and Horses pubs which actually were former coaching inns. However I'd assume that was often a name they took after the coaching era, otherwise it would have become very confusing, given that coaching routes were often defined in terms of which inn they left from and/or arrived at. "Where does the coach to Oxford go from?" "The Coach and Horses." "Errr... which one?"
Tweedy, thanks for another excellent and interesting review and congratulations on reaching 10,000 subscribers. I suppose one thing to take away from this review is to be very specific when arranging to meet someone at a West End pub, particularly The Coach and Horses.
Another gem tweedy I love the ones you do focused around a theme as much I love the pubs you cover in certain areas. Glad you covered the coach in Bruton st as have always wanted to go in but never did. I will visit it now!! Great research and production as always. I just love these videos mate!! Cheers 😎👍🍺
Enjoy this as I'v been been in many of them when I worked in the area in my youth back in the 80;s and hasn't changed much. Liked the historic context.
@@TweedyPubs Congratulations in passing 10K well deserved on you adventure. And encourage you to continue. As a suggestion a few close ups of pub / brewery signage would be good for historical interest Cheers for the pleasure in seeing these great places.
Thanks L&J! Yes the one on Hill Street is a very handsome pub - nice and quiet when I went, mid-afternoon, I guess it's busy at lunchtimes and after work.
Thanks Robert! Yes I think those two (Greek Street and Covent Garden) are the best of the bunch. Although if I'm honest I found the landlord at the Covent Garden one a bit surly! I imagine he's the sort of pub landlord who is great if you get on the right side of him, and I get the sense despite the location it's actually got a very regular crowd, which is great.
@@TweedyPubs Sounds like Kevin Moran at The Nag’s Head in Belgravia. He has a reputation for being short-tempered, but if you know that at heart he’s still a military man and likes people to maintain their bearing and act with a sense of urgency (and follow those unwritten rules), suddenly he becomes rather the opposite of his reputation. Still, surly with our man Tweedy? That won’t do…
@ the Bruton Lane coach and horses is one of the first pubs I went in when I started my London pub tours. Fantastic pub and looks stunning from the outside, must give another visit soon 👍
@@TweedyPubs Is he really a 'landlord'?. Nearly all the pubs in London that I come across have pub managers. Rarely will you see them in situ for more than a couple of years. When I first started frequenting pubs over 50 years ago in London, most pubs had landlords (and landladies) who lived above the pub, raising their kids and lived there for 15, 20 years or more.
Well done on 10k subscribers! I used to meet a friend in the Coach and Horses Mayfair for a pint now and again. We'fre both retired now. I very much enjoyed your video with John Rogers, you both have a nice laid back presenting style (do another one soon!) and hopefully you'll pick up a few of his viewers.
Interesting to hear those partitioned spaces in pubs continued in New Zealand, as I believe it's often referred to as a classless society. I've never been so I have no idea how true that is! I think essentially the divides here reflected the class system, the public bar was a working class space, and the saloon bar was a middle class space. Perhaps in New Zealand the different spaces were more about their intended function rather than the clientele they were trying to attract?
A very enjoyable "Coach and Horses" pub excursion. A couple of those pubs looked delightful and well worth a visit. Thank you for providing the excellent historical and architectural information; it definitely resonates with me. Congratulations on 10K, well earned and much deserved.
Great video as ever, and congrats on the 10,000!! A propos of nothing, I noticed that the first three pubs were directly next door to French restaurants/cafés. Strange.
Thanks John! I'm still a bit surprised the channel is as popular as it is to be honest. My slant on pubs is a bit niche and probably some people would think of it as a bit nerdy. I think the average pub goer just wants to know what the beer selection is and get a rough idea of what the atmosphere's like but they're probably not that concerned about all the history/architecture stuff. It still seems to me there aren't really enough channels on RUclips purely focused on pubs. There's a few big London channels where people do walking tours of an area, and occasionally throw in a pub or two, but it feels weird there aren't more people solely making pub videos. I suspect a lot of people watching my videos would probably rather the focus was a bit different but there just aren't many other alternatives out there at the moment!
@TweedyPubs I like it all the history the pub interior also which ales are on but above all a pub with atmosphere a pubby pub as you say London I don't visit often it's too expensive so you're vlogs are a great insight 🍻
Thank you for a VERY information-dense video. Keeps one on ones toes :-) (and congrats on the 10k; very well deserved). I think you deserve a LOT more followers. You cover SO much more than just the boozers: The maps, the newspaper clips, the anecdotes ... -ANYONE interested in general London history would enjoy your channel.
Thanks Roy! Yes I perhaps went a bit overboard on the research for this and ended up cutting out 10 minutes or so of me babbling on about old maps and coach fares and restoration theatre and so on. The video was already a bit too long as it was, but for me at least I often find the journey as interesting as the final destination when it comes to digging into these bits of history. There is a blog I often stumble across when researching these videos titled "Where London's history happened - in the pub" and I think that title sums it up very nicely! A surprising amount of historical events did happen in pubs, and I think they make a great lens through which to view the past, especially as you can still go and sit in them today!
Thank you - I really appreciate that as I was a bit worried this one ended up a bit too long, and perhaps got stuck in the weeds in a few places with the history bits. I definitely could have made the whole thing a lot more succinct but I personally love old maps, and found the sources like Fielding's Hackney Coach Rates Guide really interesting here too. I know this won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm glad some people appreciate the history!
Takes me back to the 1970s when I lived in London for a while. The only one I recall on your list is Norman's place on Greek Street (he really was that rude). My favourite Coach & Horses in London, though, was the Young's pub at Kew Bridge, where I spent many a Friday night. Congrats on the 10k.
Congrats Tweedy on 10K subs, no small feat that! Great video, tons of background information in this one. Have you ever done or considered doing a video on how you partake in your research? I for one would love a peek behind the curtain.
Thanks Kevin! Yes I have thought about that, not least because I feel like there should be more people out there making videos about pubs. There are surprisingly few channels which solely focus on pubs, and it's bizarre that this channel is actually the biggest, as far as I'm aware. There are obviously much bigger channels which do general London history, and occasionally feature a pub here or there; plus there are channels which do beer reviews, and again occasionally feature a pub... but in terms of channels purely about pubs, this is, strangely, the biggest one. It may sound weird to want more competition but I have quite a specific slant in the way I present pubs: I'm particularly interested in history and architecture/interiors, but the actual beer offering only gets a brief mention (partly because it's so changeable in many pubs from one day to the next, so anything I said on that front would quickly be out of date)... I occasionally get comments from people who are a bit frustrated/disappointed because they wanted to hear more on the other aspects. One guy once complained I didn't show the food menus...?! I'm not planning to make any big changes to my format - I just want to talk about what interests me, not what I think might have broad appeal. So it would take the pressure off a bit if there were a few more channels also covering the same pubs but putting their own slant on it.
Good evening, Tweedy. That was a nice, interesting video. I have passed the Coach and Horses on both Hill Street and Bruton Street many times when work took me to that part of London, but I never had a chance to visit either of them ☹️ I will rectify that when I am next around Mayfair (especially as I am now retired and can sit there for an hour or three 😁👍) I agree that The Red Lion in Crown Passage, St James's, is a great pub, a little oasis from the busy streets outside 😊 Great to see that you now have 10K subscribers. Well done Sir 😁🥳🎉🎆 A good excuse to crack open another bottle of "Gevrey Chambertin" and congratulate yourself !!
Thanks Lee! Yes I thought both of those Mayfair Coach and Horses pubs had a fair amount of charm, and neither had gone too far down the gastropub path as you might expect them to in that area. Yes getting to 10K subscribers was definitely a cause for celebration - beer seemed to be the order of the day when I was out filming this earlier this week, but today I have indeed opened a bottle of Gevrey Chambertin!
Love the videos tweedy, I think the coach and horses on Charing Cross road has only recently been called that, maybe from the around the pandemic time (guessing it was called this in the past). Was called the compton cross for a few years but before that was known as the Molly Moggs for quite some time.
Thanks Ross! Yes I forgot to mention it in the video, the name changed as part of that refit. However it was originally known as the Coach and Horses, and I think it's great that Shepherd Neame reverted to that name despite all the potential confusion!
Thanks RARP! I think at least half of these are actually decent pubs which are worth a visit in their own right, whatever they're called. The Great Marlborough Street one however I could have happily skipped!
Wonderful pubs, whose names still reflect the importance of coaches in this densely populated metropole back in the day, it seems. The 18th century guide of regulated Hackney coach fares including watermen could perhaps be regarded as an early example of consumer protection? Loved the maps/illustrations and the cute animations!
Thanks Kathi! Yes I found the guide to Hackney coach fares surprisingly fascinating. That's a good point, I suppose it is an early example of protecting consumer rights, and in a way this was the precursor of the taximeter.
Thank you! ...and in the 18th Century there were two on Compton Street alone! Although they had designated one section of Compton Street as "Old" and the other as "Little"... but still, it must have been very confusing.
Wonderful video. This is like revisting my twenties and thirties. Lovely memories. C&H Bruton St was pretty well every Friday lunchtime. A long lunch and back to the office for the younger surveyors. Most of the partners would have headed off for the weekend. Oft' after work too and take a later train. Thanks so much!
Just discovered this channel via John Rogers. Where have you been all my life (or at least for the past 30 years since I’ve been drinking in London pubs). Your taste in beer is very similar to my own. Love a pint of Seafarers, especially at that price! I’ve yet to work through your back catalogue, but have you ventured to the South East? I reside down Catford way and my favourite pub in the locale is the Blythe Hill Tavern. An Irish pub, which as well serving a fine pint of Guinness also serves Harvey’s Sussex Best Bitter (one of my personal favourites).
Thank you, and welcome to the channel! I'm still surprised there aren't more channels solely focused on pubs here on RUclips. There are channels which are more broadly about London and its history like John's, which often touch on pubs along the way, but it feels to me like a big enough subject that it should merit some dedicated attention! Yes Seafarer's is often what I go for when in Fuller's pubs, a big part of the appeal is the low ABV which helps to prolong the magic, and I think may also factor into its comparatively reasonable price...? There are still large swathes of South London I haven't covered, the closest I've been to your neck of the woods so far on video is Greenwich. Although it wasn't even a very thorough covering of that area, as I had a friend with me on that occasion and ended up spending a bit too much time just doing what people normally do in pubs, and not enough time filming! I have heard of the Blythe Hill Tavern, and it's on CAMRA's list of historic pub interiors, so that's a very promising start!
Thank you! I really appreciate you saying that as I was worried this video was a bit too long. I could have got the point across a lot more succinctly but I hoped sharing some of the research that went into those conclusions helped give it a richer understanding.
Thank you! Figuring out why a bunch of pubs all have a particular name probably isn't one of the most pressing questions facing humanity at present but I was quite pleased with the discovery about the Hackney coach stands in particular. I haven't seen that written about or discussed anywhere else, and I have read a lot of books about London pubs over the years!
I suggested the Crouch End pub crawl a while back, but years ago I lived in Clapton. May I suggest The Anchor & Hope, The Elderfield, The Princess of Wales, The Clapton Hart, The Crooked Billet and The Royal Sovereign?
Thank you! They're just foot rests, but I have seen rare examples where they're heated! One such is at the Bricklayer's Arms in Rotherhithe, the last pub I covered in this video: ruclips.net/video/U9Yj7o6AqIc/видео.html
Very nice! Yet another enjoyable video! To sum up: not all coaching inns are coaching inns, though some are; the news is in the mews! And a hackney cab stand is a dead giveaway, just pull out the guide! All very simple. And I think you are now dually qualified as an expert on the 17th - 19th century London transportation infrastructure. There are pubs near railway stations with railroad themed names (I think you reviewed the "Rocket" near Euston / St. Pancras) and so forth. Is there a "jet" pub or a "prop" pub near the airport? Or, would that be a "viaduct" too far. So many pubs, so little time.
We're on tenterhooks, what was the last beer? It'll be a pint of Harvey's I'm sure. Well done on reaching the 10k!! Great topic today and very well explained don't doubt your conclusions at all. None of them looked like a coaching Inn. My local used to be a coaching Inn, a great place to have a pint in the old courtyard sadly now converted to an Indian restaurant but one look at it tells you what it was. I liked the one with cast iron columns on the outside. I wonder if they were cast nearby, maybe the foundry name was cast into to it somewhere. I picked up on something similar down here and unearthed a whole area of the city supported by pillars cast in the city and other ironwork too. I've been musing on what might be a pair of mews, I think a miaow might do. Don't worry ...... I'll get my coat!! Liked the bubbles, this works very well, well done. All the best!!
Thanks David! I did put a caption on screen for the final beer - it was Otter Bitter - perhaps that was obscured by other clutter! I don't see Otter very often here in London but it brings back happy memories of Devon pubs so I was delighted to see it on the bar at the Red Lion. I noted on some of the older maps "mews" was written "mewſe" which would have been easier to pluralise!
@@TweedyPubsYes, so you did, I missed it!! I think mews is both singular and plural, Cambridge tells me that it means a building that was used in the past for keeping horses and is now used as a house
Hey, Tweedy, thanks for another interesting installment in your continuing series. Wondering whether you have come across any information about London pubs that had German names (e.g. "White Horse" (referring to the House of Hanover) or "King of Prussia") that changed their names during WWI? Cheers.
Thanks Martin! I think the Fitzroy Tavern may have been an instance of that? I think it was for a while called "The Hundred Marks" (presumably referring to the German currency...?) and was renamed around the time of WW1.
@@TweedyPubs Interesting. I am researching an article on the topic of wartime name changes and hadn't previously encountered your example -- thanks. It's interesting to learn how public houses and other drinking establishments have reflected the history of London. Keep up your good work. BTW I envy you your multiple halves of good brews at good prices which are wholly absent hereabouts (sadly). Cheers.
I can believe these pubs were used as pickup points for customers of coaching services. The roads around stable yards would have been churned up, very muddy, noisy and quite possibly smelly with horse manure. It would make sense to pick up your customers at more pleasant locations where they could wait for the coach with a meal and drink before a long trip. And provide overnight lodgings. And pickup mail.
I think the street mentioned here was renamed from Charles Street to Wellington Street in 1844 - a rebranding exercise because it was considered to be "of bad repute". I assume given that date it was named for Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington. A quick check on Wikipedia suggests that's the same reason as the naming of New Zealand's capital.
Another cracking video Tweedy. My ol' fella used to work for Ind Coope and he pronounced it like " Eind " Coope. I'm aware this doesn't matter at all but I thought some boring, pedantic swine was going to point it out it may as well be me...keep it up marra...
What's the history of Greek Street and the Greek Church? I thought I had seen all the categories of strangers, while studying Tudor and Puritan religious history, but this one is new to me.
I believe a relatively small group of Greek immigrants (about 100?) arrived in London around 1670, fleeing the Ottoman Empire, and established that church. I don't know what happened to that community but their use of the church was relatively short lived, and by the time of that Hogarth painting (1730s?) it had become a French chapel instead.
Thinking about the commonest pub names, I completely forgot the Coach and Horses. The King's Head, The Red Lion, The Crown, The George, The New Inn - and the C&H.
I have walked past the Coach and Horses in Covent garden so many times but never been in and to hear that it has 70 (!) Whiskies on offer I am now kicking myself! One for next time for sure!
The plural of mews is mews per the Cambridge Dictionary. I’ve heard “mewses” said to indicate the plural, and I’ve come across mewses in print but I’m guessing that mews is the most accepted plural form.
It's heraldic, and for some reason there are only a limited set of "tinctures" in heraldry (about 7?): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_(heraldry) I've of course seen a very large number of Red Lions, and that appears in the coat of arms of lots of aristocratic families, including the royal family, and most pubs called that probably have something to do with the Stuart dynasty. Quite a few Black Lions (one in Plaistow the other day), which again is relatively common in the coats of arms of various families, and is more popular in Wales as it's associated with Owain Glyndŵr. I can think of a few Gold Lions as well, and I think white/silver are considered the same colour in heraldry but the white seems more common than silver in pub names. There's a Blue Lion on Gray's Inn Road. I'm not sure there are any Green Lions now in London but there was one until recently in Rainham, Kent. I couldn't find any Purple Lions at all with a quick Google search just now. I think purple lions are quite rare in coats of arms in Britain, but apparently more common in Spain, e.g. the Kingdom of León.
Well done on achieving 10,000 subscribers! it makes my channel's 25 subscribers look quite humble. Maybe a 1000 of yours will subscribe haha. Great video and so interesting that some 'Coach and Horses' may have been named from 'taxi ranks'. Regarding the separation of drinking areas in pubs, I do know that this did continue on new build pubs up to the early 70s at least. I do not know of any after that date.
Thanks Liam! The "taxi rank" association is just a theory, but you heard it here first! I haven't read or heard any other pub commentators make that link before, and I've read a fair few books on London pubs! Very interesting to hear that separation of pub interiors continued that late - was it along the same quasi-class boundaries of "public" vs "saloon" bars or was there some other purpose for it? The 1960s seems to be typically the era when most older pubs had their partitions removed, at least here in London, and it was obviously an era of significant social change more broadly. Perhaps the timing was different elsewhere?
@@TweedyPubs Yes I think it is a regional thing. In the Wirral area, a lot of 'council estate' pubs with separate rooms were built in the 50s, 60s and even 70s, the last being on the Ford (now Beechwood) estate in the early 70s. Most were built by Whitbreads or Higson's. When Whitbreads brought back hand pulled beer in the 1980s with their Cask Special Bitter, they only placed hand pubs in the lounge areas of these pubs and not the bars, Cask being for gentlemen only! These were new builds on brownfield and greenfield sites where no pub had previously existed. One exception being The Railway pub in New Brighton where the original mid Victorian multi room corner site building was demolished in 1955 and rebuilt the following year on exactly the same footprint. The new building had three ground floor rooms public bar, lounge and strangely named 'Stag's Bar' which was richly upholstered like a gentleman's club and forbid entrance to women until the law changed in 1969. The customers being elderly business men and very un-stag like. It also had an upstairs cocktail bar where the hand pulled beer was assisted by electric pumps. Part of the Victorian cellars remained and in one small room, myself and the landlord found two rotten tea chests full of solidified straw which held a number of handle glasses marked GR V. They were not the dimple type in use at the time, but had instead a hexagon shape pattern. The Railway had its Stag Bar incorporated into the lounge in the 1980s, the time when most of the old pub interiors in the Wirral area got vandalised into huge rooms. It did retain its public bar until a few year s ago when it was bought and renamed The James Atherton although the owner did name it The Three Bellends for a short time during covid when the sign was repainted to display images of Boris Johnson, Mat Hancock and Dominic Cummings.
Not sure whether you actually watched the video (I admit it is a bit long) but there is a bit more nuance to it than that. There's a summary starting at 26:50 if you don't want to sit through the whole thing.
@TweedyPubs Oh, I'm glad you've done the piece. Yes Horses everywhere,so Mews etc. But equally coaching inns were everywhere. Especially around Fleet St and the old City. The Coaching era was fascinating. Just the headline begs an obvious answer. Most Pub enthusiasts already know about Coaching Inns. I was raised in one. The York Inn, on the Blackdown Hills in Devon. The outbuildings had all been stables and we had an Ostlers cottage. Ostlers were Horse Handlers. Stable lads. I do love the George in Southwark. There's a Coaching Inn (at least in layout,no longer a pub) off Carnaby Street. At Kingly Court. Also the site of the old Bell Inn on Friday St ,which was the terminus for the Exeter to London "Flying Waggons".
@TweedyPubs Dad ran it from 1965-1986. A proper village pub. No food. 6 skittles teams, darts, tug o' war, cricket, stock car racing. It is near the airfield from which Easy Company flew to DDay. The subject of Band of Brothers. Pub nearly closed in 2009. New owner does decent food and just won Somerset food pub of the year. (Boundary changes in 1974 moved us from Devon to Somerset). The original pub was built during the War of the Roses and took the name of the then winning side. It is equidistant from Honiton , Taunton, Wellington and Chard. 9 miles to each.
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Thanks Doug!
Doug, I Totally Agree !
Love your work. I think this is an unusual avenue for you to explore a theme rather than a neighbourhood. I found it most engaging as most of your vids are. I enjoy the history of London (and other towns) as it relates to pubs. It is very important to preserve our history as best as we can rather than allow it to be brushed aside. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks Brian! It's an idea I had in August last year, when I was making a video on Mayfair pubs, in the early days of the channel. I'd already reached my usual number of five pubs and had some slight regret about missing out the (two) Coach and Horses there, so this seemed like a good way to cover them instead.
You deserved that extra pint for hitting 10K subs - what an achievement and thoroughly deserved - there should be a RUclips plaque!
My favourite pub in this collection was the Coach and Horses. The Greek Street one! There’s something optimistic about those interwar designs - sort of modern, but retaining key traditional pub elements - the spittoon was incredible.
Jeffrey Bernard would have known that interior when it was still relatively new, I guess. And he joined it in aging over many decades.
Finding that guide to the coaching stops was a great piece of detective work and provides the answer for many of them, it seems .
I suppose as London grew, the name was a good way to provide familiarity and reassurance too.
Excellent work and great to see the increasing discovery of the channel.
Thank you for the kind words on the 10K milestone Mr WC21! There was definitely a jubilant air in the Tweedy household on Tuesday!
Yes the Greek Street one is undoubtedly my favourite too, and perhaps it's a testament to the way some pubs have a kind of magical quality whereas others just don't. It's obviously not just down to the name! Nor the location - there are three Coaches and Horses(es?) in Soho alone! I think it must be at least in part due to the decor, but I suppose there's also a kind of snowball effect that interesting characters tend to attract other interesting characters, and they all end up congregating in one place, leaving the other nearby pubs looking a bit perfunctory.
Yes I think finding Fielding's Hackney Coach Guide was the real breakthrough here in terms of the pub history research, which coupled with the old maps was very instructive. It must have been a huge undertaking at the time, walking round London measuring all those distances from each of those 90 coach stands to numerous different destinations. 20,000 fares in total! I found the whole thing quite fascinating, and could have talked for much longer about the topic, but the video was already a bit too long as it was - not least because it was six (well I suppose seven) rather than the usual five pubs, but also because I kept getting distracted by asides like that pickle manufactory. Once I had heard that pair of words I just couldn't bring myself to cut that bit from the final video.
Lucky future historians who'll be able to rely on such informative and brilliantly crafted material ! And lucky are we to enjoy it at the present time !
Cheers and long live to you Tweedy !
Hello Tweedy. Reaching 10k is well deserved and long overdue. Your dedication to the cause of researching and visiting each pub is to be commended, as is your love of “pubby pubs” and proper, non citrusy real ale. We salute you sir. Cheers 👏👏👍😀🍺
Now to go and research the origins of my local pubs, The Castle, The Green Man, The Elephant & Castle, The Jolly Farmer and the Wheelright Arms 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
More great content sure your channel will continue to go from strength to strength. Thanks for taking the time to research so thoroughly. Hope you enjoyed your 1/2 pints. Well deserved. All the best Pete 🍻
Love that you finish in the Red Lion! What an amazing video…lovely way to start the week-end!
Another very enjoyable and interesting video, very nice clear commentary at a good speed, as always for those whose first language is not English,
Many Thanks.
Superb content Tweedy. Your class upbringing lifts you way above the usual hoi polloi of the standard oiks that peddle their “content”. Touch of class old boy don’t you know 👍
Thanks Simon! I actually had a pretty humble upbringing but I do find architecture / pub interiors / history really interesting and I suppose that's a big part of what sets my videos apart from other people making "content" about pubs. I'm sure this isn't everyone's cup of tea but it's nice to hear some people are interested.
Wonderful and much deserved congratulations for reaching 10k subscribers! You're ploughing a lovely and enjoyable seam of interest for many and I'm sure your channel will grow from strength to strength!
Congratulations on great storytelling and a well-deserved 10000.
A highly enjoyable and informative vid. I must admit I was one of those people who presumed all Coach and Horses pubs were at some point in time a coaching inn without ever stopping to wonder where they'd have stabled the horses.
Thanks Phil! I'm sure there are some examples of Coach and Horses pubs which actually were former coaching inns. However I'd assume that was often a name they took after the coaching era, otherwise it would have become very confusing, given that coaching routes were often defined in terms of which inn they left from and/or arrived at.
"Where does the coach to Oxford go from?"
"The Coach and Horses."
"Errr... which one?"
@@TweedyPubs Also Coach and Horses near Brewery Yards.
Stabling for the Dray horses.
Tweedy, thanks for another excellent and interesting review and congratulations on reaching 10,000 subscribers. I suppose one thing to take away from this review is to be very specific when arranging to meet someone at a West End pub, particularly The Coach and Horses.
Another gem tweedy I love the ones you do focused around a theme as much I love the pubs you cover in certain areas. Glad you covered the coach in Bruton st as have always wanted to go in but never did. I will visit it now!! Great research and production as always. I just love these videos mate!! Cheers 😎👍🍺
Very informative. I also like the old maps and records in your video. Thank you very much❤
Thank you - really good to hear you like those old maps and records too! The research is my favourite part of making these videos.
Excellently presented and very interesting. Nice one Tweedy.
Enjoy this as I'v been been in many of them when I worked in the area in my youth back in the 80;s and hasn't changed much. Liked the historic context.
Thanks Russell, and glad to hear this one had some personal relevance!
@@TweedyPubs Congratulations in passing 10K well deserved on you adventure. And encourage you to continue. As a suggestion a few close ups of pub / brewery signage would be good for historical interest Cheers for the pleasure in seeing these great places.
Thank you for your work! Great research and material is well served. Coach and Horses Hill Street would likely be my favorite.
Thanks L&J! Yes the one on Hill Street is a very handsome pub - nice and quiet when I went, mid-afternoon, I guess it's busy at lunchtimes and after work.
Really enjoyed this video John.
I’m actually going in the Greek street one on Saturday 👍 the Guinness in the Covent Garden one is superb
Thanks Robert! Yes I think those two (Greek Street and Covent Garden) are the best of the bunch. Although if I'm honest I found the landlord at the Covent Garden one a bit surly! I imagine he's the sort of pub landlord who is great if you get on the right side of him, and I get the sense despite the location it's actually got a very regular crowd, which is great.
@@TweedyPubs Sounds like Kevin Moran at The Nag’s Head in Belgravia. He has a reputation for being short-tempered, but if you know that at heart he’s still a military man and likes people to maintain their bearing and act with a sense of urgency (and follow those unwritten rules), suddenly he becomes rather the opposite of his reputation.
Still, surly with our man Tweedy? That won’t do…
@ the Bruton Lane coach and horses is one of the first pubs I went in when I started my London pub tours. Fantastic pub and looks stunning from the outside, must give another visit soon 👍
@@TweedyPubs Is he really a 'landlord'?. Nearly all the pubs in London that I come across have pub managers. Rarely will you see them in situ for more than a couple of years.
When I first started frequenting pubs over 50 years ago in London, most pubs had landlords (and landladies) who lived above the pub, raising their kids and lived there for 15, 20 years or more.
Well done on 10k subscribers! I used to meet a friend in the Coach and Horses Mayfair for a pint now and again. We'fre both retired now. I very much enjoyed your video with John Rogers, you both have a nice laid back presenting style (do another one soon!) and hopefully you'll pick up a few of his viewers.
Thanks John - was there ever a confusion over which of the two Coach and Horses(es?) in Mayfair to meet in...?
@@TweedyPubs It was the one on Hill Street! Also the Footman and The Punch Bowl. And the other Coach and Horses now and again!
We had the Oxford Hotel in my home town in Levin New Zealand. All our pubs had a public bar a middle bar and a music bar or restaurant etc ❤
Interesting to hear those partitioned spaces in pubs continued in New Zealand, as I believe it's often referred to as a classless society. I've never been so I have no idea how true that is! I think essentially the divides here reflected the class system, the public bar was a working class space, and the saloon bar was a middle class space.
Perhaps in New Zealand the different spaces were more about their intended function rather than the clientele they were trying to attract?
@TweedyPubs yes It was a class thing years ago Public bars were considered dodgy! You always make interesting content ❤️
A very enjoyable "Coach and Horses" pub excursion. A couple of those pubs looked delightful and well worth a visit. Thank you for providing the excellent historical and architectural information; it definitely resonates with me. Congratulations on 10K, well earned and much deserved.
I had a drink at the ACTUAL oldest coachhouse pub (the George) when I was in London. It was a really cool experience.
Great video as ever, and congrats on the 10,000!! A propos of nothing, I noticed that the first three pubs were directly next door to French
restaurants/cafés. Strange.
Interesting little pub crawl well done on your 10k you deserve a lot more 🍻
Thanks John! I'm still a bit surprised the channel is as popular as it is to be honest. My slant on pubs is a bit niche and probably some people would think of it as a bit nerdy. I think the average pub goer just wants to know what the beer selection is and get a rough idea of what the atmosphere's like but they're probably not that concerned about all the history/architecture stuff.
It still seems to me there aren't really enough channels on RUclips purely focused on pubs. There's a few big London channels where people do walking tours of an area, and occasionally throw in a pub or two, but it feels weird there aren't more people solely making pub videos. I suspect a lot of people watching my videos would probably rather the focus was a bit different but there just aren't many other alternatives out there at the moment!
@TweedyPubs I like it all the history the pub interior also which ales are on but above all a pub with atmosphere a pubby pub as you say London I don't visit often it's too expensive so you're vlogs are a great insight 🍻
Thank you for a VERY information-dense video. Keeps one on ones toes :-) (and congrats on the 10k; very well deserved). I think you deserve a LOT more followers. You cover SO much more than just the boozers: The maps, the newspaper clips, the anecdotes ... -ANYONE interested in general London history would enjoy your channel.
Thanks Roy! Yes I perhaps went a bit overboard on the research for this and ended up cutting out 10 minutes or so of me babbling on about old maps and coach fares and restoration theatre and so on. The video was already a bit too long as it was, but for me at least I often find the journey as interesting as the final destination when it comes to digging into these bits of history.
There is a blog I often stumble across when researching these videos titled "Where London's history happened - in the pub" and I think that title sums it up very nicely! A surprising amount of historical events did happen in pubs, and I think they make a great lens through which to view the past, especially as you can still go and sit in them today!
Probably the best video so far though there's a lot of competition 🙂
Thank you - I really appreciate that as I was a bit worried this one ended up a bit too long, and perhaps got stuck in the weeds in a few places with the history bits. I definitely could have made the whole thing a lot more succinct but I personally love old maps, and found the sources like Fielding's Hackney Coach Rates Guide really interesting here too. I know this won't be everyone's cup of tea but I'm glad some people appreciate the history!
Takes me back to the 1970s when I lived in London for a while. The only one I recall on your list is Norman's place on Greek Street (he really was that rude).
My favourite Coach & Horses in London, though, was the Young's pub at Kew Bridge, where I spent many a Friday night.
Congrats on the 10k.
Simply Excellent!
Well done on the 10k followers 🥂👏excellent pub crawl today 😂cheers 🍺thanks
Thanks Mick!
Congrats Tweedy on 10K subs, no small feat that! Great video, tons of background information in this one. Have you ever done or considered doing a video on how you partake in your research? I for one would love a peek behind the curtain.
Thanks Kevin! Yes I have thought about that, not least because I feel like there should be more people out there making videos about pubs. There are surprisingly few channels which solely focus on pubs, and it's bizarre that this channel is actually the biggest, as far as I'm aware. There are obviously much bigger channels which do general London history, and occasionally feature a pub here or there; plus there are channels which do beer reviews, and again occasionally feature a pub... but in terms of channels purely about pubs, this is, strangely, the biggest one.
It may sound weird to want more competition but I have quite a specific slant in the way I present pubs: I'm particularly interested in history and architecture/interiors, but the actual beer offering only gets a brief mention (partly because it's so changeable in many pubs from one day to the next, so anything I said on that front would quickly be out of date)...
I occasionally get comments from people who are a bit frustrated/disappointed because they wanted to hear more on the other aspects. One guy once complained I didn't show the food menus...?! I'm not planning to make any big changes to my format - I just want to talk about what interests me, not what I think might have broad appeal.
So it would take the pressure off a bit if there were a few more channels also covering the same pubs but putting their own slant on it.
Good evening, Tweedy.
That was a nice, interesting video.
I have passed the Coach and Horses on both Hill Street and Bruton Street many times when work took me to that part of London, but I never had a chance to visit either of them ☹️
I will rectify that when I am next around Mayfair (especially as I am now retired and can sit there for an hour or three 😁👍)
I agree that The Red Lion in Crown Passage, St James's, is a great pub, a little oasis from the busy streets outside 😊
Great to see that you now have 10K subscribers.
Well done Sir 😁🥳🎉🎆
A good excuse to crack open another bottle of "Gevrey Chambertin" and congratulate yourself !!
Thanks Lee! Yes I thought both of those Mayfair Coach and Horses pubs had a fair amount of charm, and neither had gone too far down the gastropub path as you might expect them to in that area.
Yes getting to 10K subscribers was definitely a cause for celebration - beer seemed to be the order of the day when I was out filming this earlier this week, but today I have indeed opened a bottle of Gevrey Chambertin!
Love the videos tweedy, I think the coach and horses on Charing Cross road has only recently been called that, maybe from the around the pandemic time (guessing it was called this in the past). Was called the compton cross for a few years but before that was known as the Molly Moggs for quite some time.
Thanks Ross! Yes I forgot to mention it in the video, the name changed as part of that refit. However it was originally known as the Coach and Horses, and I think it's great that Shepherd Neame reverted to that name despite all the potential confusion!
Love your videos, always learn something! And good tips for future pub crawls
Thanks RARP! I think at least half of these are actually decent pubs which are worth a visit in their own right, whatever they're called. The Great Marlborough Street one however I could have happily skipped!
Good to see you hit 10K
Wonderful pubs, whose names still reflect the importance of coaches in this densely populated metropole back in the day, it seems. The 18th century guide of regulated Hackney coach fares including watermen could perhaps be regarded as an early example of consumer protection? Loved the maps/illustrations and the cute animations!
Thanks Kathi! Yes I found the guide to Hackney coach fares surprisingly fascinating. That's a good point, I suppose it is an early example of protecting consumer rights, and in a way this was the precursor of the taximeter.
Congrats on hitting 10k, Tweedy! Richly Deserved.
Thanks Ben!
Cheers from Ottawa
Fantastic work, always wanted to know about this. Even in Soho you have to specify the street.
Thank you! ...and in the 18th Century there were two on Compton Street alone! Although they had designated one section of Compton Street as "Old" and the other as "Little"... but still, it must have been very confusing.
Wonderful video. This is like revisting my twenties and thirties. Lovely memories.
C&H Bruton St was pretty well every Friday lunchtime. A long lunch and back to the office for the younger surveyors. Most of the partners would have headed off for the weekend.
Oft' after work too and take a later train.
Thanks so much!
Bugger. Spoke to soon. He's in Hill St now. Another regular.
Thank you, and really happy to hear this brought back fond memories!
Just discovered this channel via John Rogers. Where have you been all my life (or at least for the past 30 years since I’ve been drinking in London pubs). Your taste in beer is very similar to my own. Love a pint of Seafarers, especially at that price!
I’ve yet to work through your back catalogue, but have you ventured to the South East? I reside down Catford way and my favourite pub in the locale is the Blythe Hill Tavern. An Irish pub, which as well serving a fine pint of Guinness also serves Harvey’s Sussex Best Bitter (one of my personal favourites).
Thank you, and welcome to the channel! I'm still surprised there aren't more channels solely focused on pubs here on RUclips. There are channels which are more broadly about London and its history like John's, which often touch on pubs along the way, but it feels to me like a big enough subject that it should merit some dedicated attention!
Yes Seafarer's is often what I go for when in Fuller's pubs, a big part of the appeal is the low ABV which helps to prolong the magic, and I think may also factor into its comparatively reasonable price...?
There are still large swathes of South London I haven't covered, the closest I've been to your neck of the woods so far on video is Greenwich. Although it wasn't even a very thorough covering of that area, as I had a friend with me on that occasion and ended up spending a bit too much time just doing what people normally do in pubs, and not enough time filming!
I have heard of the Blythe Hill Tavern, and it's on CAMRA's list of historic pub interiors, so that's a very promising start!
Great video and information ❤
Thank you!
Very nice stuff sir as always!
Thank you!
Fantastic detail. Thank you
Thank you! I really appreciate you saying that as I was worried this video was a bit too long. I could have got the point across a lot more succinctly but I hoped sharing some of the research that went into those conclusions helped give it a richer understanding.
another excellent video ,as always,well done on your 10k
Thank you!
another great video tweedy as was the video on Crouch End
Excellent research!
Thank you! Figuring out why a bunch of pubs all have a particular name probably isn't one of the most pressing questions facing humanity at present but I was quite pleased with the discovery about the Hackney coach stands in particular. I haven't seen that written about or discussed anywhere else, and I have read a lot of books about London pubs over the years!
@@TweedyPubs It might not be a pressing problem but it is still interesting.
I suggested the Crouch End pub crawl a while back, but years ago I lived in Clapton. May I suggest The Anchor & Hope, The Elderfield, The Princess of Wales, The Clapton Hart, The Crooked Billet and The Royal Sovereign?
Thanks for the suggestion! Not an area I know well but I'll take a look.
enjoyed this video, many thanks to the author. What are those metal pipes at the bottom of a bar stand for ?
Thank you! They're just foot rests, but I have seen rare examples where they're heated! One such is at the Bricklayer's Arms in Rotherhithe, the last pub I covered in this video: ruclips.net/video/U9Yj7o6AqIc/видео.html
Very nice! Yet another enjoyable video! To sum up: not all coaching inns are coaching inns, though some are; the news is in the mews! And a hackney cab stand is a dead giveaway, just pull out the guide! All very simple. And I think you are now dually qualified as an expert on the 17th - 19th century London transportation infrastructure. There are pubs near railway stations with railroad themed names (I think you reviewed the "Rocket" near Euston / St. Pancras) and so forth. Is there a "jet" pub or a "prop" pub near the airport? Or, would that be a "viaduct" too far. So many pubs, so little time.
We're on tenterhooks, what was the last beer? It'll be a pint of Harvey's I'm sure. Well done on reaching the 10k!!
Great topic today and very well explained don't doubt your conclusions at all. None of them looked like a coaching Inn. My local used to be a coaching Inn, a great place to have a pint in the old courtyard sadly now converted to an Indian restaurant but one look at it tells you what it was.
I liked the one with cast iron columns on the outside. I wonder if they were cast nearby, maybe the foundry name was cast into to it somewhere. I picked up on something similar down here and unearthed a whole area of the city supported by pillars cast in the city and other ironwork too.
I've been musing on what might be a pair of mews, I think a miaow might do. Don't worry ...... I'll get my coat!!
Liked the bubbles, this works very well, well done.
All the best!!
Thanks David!
I did put a caption on screen for the final beer - it was Otter Bitter - perhaps that was obscured by other clutter! I don't see Otter very often here in London but it brings back happy memories of Devon pubs so I was delighted to see it on the bar at the Red Lion.
I noted on some of the older maps "mews" was written "mewſe" which would have been easier to pluralise!
@@TweedyPubsYes, so you did, I missed it!! I think mews is both singular and plural, Cambridge tells me that it means a building that was used in the past for keeping horses and is now used as a house
Well done on the 10,000 subscribers, and have you done pubs in putney? If you have, where is the link please
Hey, Tweedy, thanks for another interesting installment in your continuing series. Wondering whether you have come across any information about London pubs that had German names (e.g. "White Horse" (referring to the House of Hanover) or "King of Prussia") that changed their names during WWI? Cheers.
Thanks Martin! I think the Fitzroy Tavern may have been an instance of that? I think it was for a while called "The Hundred Marks" (presumably referring to the German currency...?) and was renamed around the time of WW1.
@@TweedyPubs Interesting. I am researching an article on the topic of wartime name changes and hadn't previously encountered your example -- thanks. It's interesting to learn how public houses and other drinking establishments have reflected the history of London. Keep up your good work. BTW I envy you your multiple halves of good brews at good prices which are wholly absent hereabouts (sadly). Cheers.
I can believe these pubs were used as pickup points for customers of coaching services. The roads around stable yards would have been churned up, very muddy, noisy and quite possibly smelly with horse manure. It would make sense to pick up your customers at more pleasant locations where they could wait for the coach with a meal and drink before a long trip. And provide overnight lodgings. And pickup mail.
I used to love Double Diamond, but it vanished from the U.S. in the early 00's or so. Is it still available in the U.K.?
Wellington is the capital of New Zealand!❤ My Dad emigrated from Leeds to Wellington!
I think the street mentioned here was renamed from Charles Street to Wellington Street in 1844 - a rebranding exercise because it was considered to be "of bad repute". I assume given that date it was named for Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington. A quick check on Wikipedia suggests that's the same reason as the naming of New Zealand's capital.
Tweedy how about an East Dulwich episode, it’s an area we have been meaning to explore and looks to be a few pubs
Have a great day ❤
Thanks, you too!
Another cracking video Tweedy. My ol' fella used to work for Ind Coope and he pronounced it like " Eind " Coope. I'm aware this doesn't matter at all but I thought some boring, pedantic swine was going to point it out it may as well be me...keep it up marra...
What's the history of Greek Street and the Greek Church? I thought I had seen all the categories of strangers, while studying Tudor and Puritan religious history, but this one is new to me.
I believe a relatively small group of Greek immigrants (about 100?) arrived in London around 1670, fleeing the Ottoman Empire, and established that church. I don't know what happened to that community but their use of the church was relatively short lived, and by the time of that Hogarth painting (1730s?) it had become a French chapel instead.
You got some decent weather the last few days
Yes this week definitely has been an improvement over the previous couple.
Robslondon visited your local recently, can I sense a collaboration coming up ?
Thinking about the commonest pub names, I completely forgot the Coach and Horses. The King's Head, The Red Lion, The Crown, The George, The New Inn - and the C&H.
I have walked past the Coach and Horses in Covent garden so many times but never been in and to hear that it has 70 (!) Whiskies on offer I am now kicking myself! One for next time for sure!
The plural of mews is mews per the Cambridge Dictionary. I’ve heard “mewses” said to indicate the plural, and I’ve come across mewses in print but I’m guessing that mews is the most accepted plural form.
My favourite pub in greenwich
I wonder what the origin of the name is there...?
I think that maybe your recent increase in subscribers has, like me, followed on from your appearance with John Rogers. Cheers!
Welcome to the channel!
13:19 Interesting that historically the 'posh' bits of the pub should be the ones with spittoons😅
Tweeds how about another visit to the coast? Hastings could make for a nice little video
w/d tweedy great stuff
Thank you!
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A good question. Another one is, why are there so many Red Lion pubs? Are there no green or purple lions?
It's heraldic, and for some reason there are only a limited set of "tinctures" in heraldry (about 7?): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_(heraldry)
I've of course seen a very large number of Red Lions, and that appears in the coat of arms of lots of aristocratic families, including the royal family, and most pubs called that probably have something to do with the Stuart dynasty.
Quite a few Black Lions (one in Plaistow the other day), which again is relatively common in the coats of arms of various families, and is more popular in Wales as it's associated with Owain Glyndŵr.
I can think of a few Gold Lions as well, and I think white/silver are considered the same colour in heraldry but the white seems more common than silver in pub names.
There's a Blue Lion on Gray's Inn Road. I'm not sure there are any Green Lions now in London but there was one until recently in Rainham, Kent. I couldn't find any Purple Lions at all with a quick Google search just now. I think purple lions are quite rare in coats of arms in Britain, but apparently more common in Spain, e.g. the Kingdom of León.
Enjoy your pint, mate!
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Well done on achieving 10,000 subscribers! it makes my channel's 25 subscribers look quite humble. Maybe a 1000 of yours will subscribe haha. Great video and so interesting that some 'Coach and Horses' may have been named from 'taxi ranks'. Regarding the separation of drinking areas in pubs, I do know that this did continue on new build pubs up to the early 70s at least. I do not know of any after that date.
Thanks Liam! The "taxi rank" association is just a theory, but you heard it here first! I haven't read or heard any other pub commentators make that link before, and I've read a fair few books on London pubs!
Very interesting to hear that separation of pub interiors continued that late - was it along the same quasi-class boundaries of "public" vs "saloon" bars or was there some other purpose for it? The 1960s seems to be typically the era when most older pubs had their partitions removed, at least here in London, and it was obviously an era of significant social change more broadly. Perhaps the timing was different elsewhere?
@@TweedyPubs Yes I think it is a regional thing. In the Wirral area, a lot of 'council estate' pubs with separate rooms were built in the 50s, 60s and even 70s, the last being on the Ford (now Beechwood) estate in the early 70s. Most were built by Whitbreads or Higson's. When Whitbreads brought back hand pulled beer in the 1980s with their Cask Special Bitter, they only placed hand pubs in the lounge areas of these pubs and not the bars, Cask being for gentlemen only! These were new builds on brownfield and greenfield sites where no pub had previously existed. One exception being The Railway pub in New Brighton where the original mid Victorian multi room corner site building was demolished in 1955 and rebuilt the following year on exactly the same footprint. The new building had three ground floor rooms public bar, lounge and strangely named 'Stag's Bar' which was richly upholstered like a gentleman's club and forbid entrance to women until the law changed in 1969. The customers being elderly business men and very un-stag like. It also had an upstairs cocktail bar where the hand pulled beer was assisted by electric pumps. Part of the Victorian cellars remained and in one small room, myself and the landlord found two rotten tea chests full of solidified straw which held a number of handle glasses marked GR V. They were not the dimple type in use at the time, but had instead a hexagon shape pattern. The Railway had its Stag Bar incorporated into the lounge in the 1980s, the time when most of the old pub interiors in the Wirral area got vandalised into huge rooms. It did retain its public bar until a few year s ago when it was bought and renamed The James Atherton although the owner did name it The Three Bellends for a short time during covid when the sign was repainted to display images of Boris Johnson, Mat Hancock and Dominic Cummings.
The plural of mews is mews. At least that's what Google AI says.
I suppose that makes sense - maybe it's plural to start with?
Nearly £20 for 6 half pints. So glad I live in £1.99 land. 'Makes you glad you live around here' as the advert said when Ruddles was Ruddles.
Jeffrey Bernard is unwell.
Indeed, and his situation is alas unlikely to improve.
Kudos for drinking 2 Spitfires.
They were half pints, so it was only one really...
Whato Tweedy,
Spitoons, eh? Are you sure they are not urinals so you could have a pee without leaving the bar?
Isn't it obvious?
The Coaching routes that dominated trade and passenger travel for 300 years until 1850.
Not sure whether you actually watched the video (I admit it is a bit long) but there is a bit more nuance to it than that. There's a summary starting at 26:50 if you don't want to sit through the whole thing.
@TweedyPubs Oh, I'm glad you've done the piece. Yes Horses everywhere,so Mews etc.
But equally coaching inns were everywhere. Especially around Fleet St and the old City.
The Coaching era was fascinating.
Just the headline begs an obvious answer. Most Pub enthusiasts already know about Coaching Inns.
I was raised in one. The York Inn, on the Blackdown Hills in Devon.
The outbuildings had all been stables and we had an Ostlers cottage. Ostlers were Horse Handlers. Stable lads.
I do love the George in Southwark.
There's a Coaching Inn (at least in layout,no longer a pub) off Carnaby Street. At Kingly Court.
Also the site of the old Bell Inn on Friday St ,which was the terminus for the Exeter to London "Flying Waggons".
@@stephfoxwell4620 The York Inn looks beautiful!
@TweedyPubs Dad ran it from 1965-1986. A proper village pub. No food. 6 skittles teams, darts, tug o' war, cricket, stock car racing.
It is near the airfield from which Easy Company flew to DDay. The subject of Band of Brothers.
Pub nearly closed in 2009. New owner does decent food and just won Somerset food pub of the year.
(Boundary changes in 1974 moved us from Devon to Somerset).
The original pub was built during the War of the Roses and took the name of the then winning side.
It is equidistant from Honiton , Taunton, Wellington and Chard.
9 miles to each.