You just changed my game. I’ve wanted to do this for so long but couldn’t find any info that was even close to being as informative as your video. Thank you. I’m off to my lair.
Very informative video. I’ve been mixing using vst’s and plugins for about two years and now deciding to incorporate some audio hardware into my workspace. Thanks for showing the basics in detail
It can further test the result of the recording. Example: In the track that placed the I / O create a Bus -Ex: bus1, insert this Bus in output of the same I / O track. Create a new Audio channel (mono or stereo) depends on the I / O you created. In this new audio track, in input, insert the same bus1 created. Arm the track to record / strike and see the result.
This is exactly what I needed thank you so much for making it all so clear and simple. Its now 5.29am, I can now try and sleep after finding how this is done. God Bless you my son!!!!
Bravo Zed Mart :Your video was superb.Every other video online did not explain and show what wires go where and if they did it was like wires everywhere.I have Logic Pro X and Cubase I have tried for years with Cubase all I got was feedback.Plus in Cubase you need 4 ins and outs besides your mains.I got my Ultrafex II Stereo Widener to finally work.It makes it sound like you have Surround Sound.
Thanks dude. Would not work at first, then played around and added an EQ to the track in Logic, then suddenly had signal coming through via the compressor! Maybe a small bug in Logic I don't know. Just thought I would mention in case others get no sound/signal coming through at first. Cheers
Hi. I might be stupid but, how do you record that in Logic ? how do you record the processed signal once the audio has been through the external effect ? It only records the dry signal in my case. Thanks !
DID YOU GET AN ANSWER FROM SOMEWHERE ON THIS PROBLEM. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS NOW (sorry - Caps Lock on). I want to record guitar DI so i can edit the results easier then send the signal to a rack fx such as Axe 2 and then record the wet signal back into Logic. Thanks
Interesting. One question: how do you level the procesing audio going back to Logic via line input 3-4 ? Do you turn up the volume on those line inputs of your Pre-Sonus? Where do you look to find out what the true signal level is?
Thank you for this vid cause I’m thinking of getting some hardware to combine with my software but I’m still confused but it’s not u but my hard head lol I will have to watch this a few times.
thank you for your very clear video. I do not understand how do you decide that your monitors plays the signal that is coming back from the compressor, and not the signal of the original tracks?
hi, great video. Would you suggest to use the Send/Return output of your Presonus AI? I am having problem in connecting my Behringer UMC 404 to the Compressor Behringer T1952 with a Y cable. Basically I have tried all possible combinations, I just don't get signal from the inserts of my UMC.
I know it's been a year but any updates as to what the problem was? I was thinking the same regarding using the send/return with a Y cable to a Fireface 800
I've been searching for a video like this for ages. Thanks so much. Could you explain how to add an Equaliser aswell please?.....I.e.....Eq to Compressor to interface. Thanks
I seem to have a feedback loop no matter what I do. Is this possible to do with an interface that only has two monitor outputs? I have focusrite 18i8 + clarett 8 ADAT expansion. So I am doing outputs 1-2, and then inputs 11-12 (first two on the ADAT). Also, maybe just as a video idea, any tips on how to have a faster workflow? If I print a track with outboard gear, now I have it going through the master bus and the outboard gear for a second time. So I could either turn off every plugin and outboard gear (time consuming), or I have to do a dry bounce and reopen the audio file in a different program/session. That's more of a workflow thing. Maybe there is a way to have two master bus? One with effects for printing, and a blank master bus just to hear playback of the printed track without another layer of effects. Hope that makes sense.
I got it eventually. I ended up using outputs 7-8 with a spdif cable because I noticed in another comment you said to not run it on the same outs as monitors. I also had to make sure that the track in logic was was set to 7-8 and and not "St Out". Thanks for the video!
Great vid brother! I have a ? And it might be a dumb ?, but if I buy a Manley stereo compressor , I can also use it for mono instruments/vocals correct ?
To clarify if using this I/O for hardware to print, do you create a new track and record it with the outboard effect engaged on the track? I'm assuming you can't bounce out until it's printed? How would you do that on the master buss?
Hi, thanks for this video. Can you please do a follow up using a fx unit. I understand how it would be connected from the info in this video. But how do you route it so it acts like plug in. Ie send and rerun. Thanks.
Thank you for all of your videos. Could you please detail what Mac and O/S you are able to use with your presonus interfaces? I have Firepods but I am unable to update any higher os hence unable to get Logic X due to no driver or support for the older Firepods. Thanks
I'm struggling with this because the ping does not work without first routing to a bus (the Logic Effects manual specifies that a bus routing is needed to use i/o). Using your method, the alignment will not be sample-accurate .
Did u find any solution, please help I noticed ur comments on some of the videos here in RUclips, or did u have some suggestions for me for connecting hardware to Logic without any headaches 😅🙏🏻
@@abdulrahmanaljubair7748 Yes, just send the audio track to an aux channel, and record to a new channel with the aux as the input source. The i/o plug goes on the aux channel.
Any idea why Im hearing a small latency when inserting my inputs ??? when output are inserted I start listening to the audio and compression ...but when I put the Inputs..a delay is happening ...even if I click the latency offset...
I tried this method with the same Presonus Fireproject and a DBX comp. , but I realized that my compressor diminished the signal from about 600 Hz and above, so more the hi low end was revealed and the resulted sound was a little bit boomy and thicky (muddy). Do you think at this price range the DBX 166XL model is a good option for using an ext. compressor?
There will always be an argument that analog gear sounds better cause it can add saturation and different colors to the recording that you don’t really get digitally. Is it worth the hassle? Well it depends on what skill level you’re on when it comes to mixing. It won’t be a night and day difference using analog over digital but it can help get your mix from 95% to 100. At the end of the day it all comes down to how well you know how to use compression so if you’re a beginner I’d just use the ones in your daw cause they’re a lot more friendly and will help you understand how to truly use it. But there’s a reason the pros use analog gear. They know exactly what they want before they start turning the knobs so they get the analog saturation and color perfectly in tune with what they heard in their heads.
How would you set it up if you was setting up your compressor to the desk I have just bought a art pro 2 and the vu meter shows the input is coming through but I get no compression on the out put? Do you know why?
Mine just feeds back, it sounds like a banshee...I've tried 2 computers, 2 sets of leads, 3 effects and 2 interfaces...no difference. Any ideas? Thanks
Great video! I'm an Analog synth noob, and would love to hear if you have any suggestions of a good synth to get that will easily work with Logic X like this (and take midi). I mainly produce future bass/dance, but I really want to get something that will be versatile enough for branching out to less commercial genres! Thanks!
hello Mr Zed am called lex logic audio producer from uganda am using octa capture roland with its pre -amps it has its compressor inbulit how can i use it for that outing process please help
I tried this and for some reason my mix became mono. Can’t figure it out. Logic out 3-4 into channel 1-2 of my stereo EQ then back in 1-2 into logic. And it’s mono 🤷♂️
Hi Marty, thanks for the great video! I have been using this method on single tracks for a while now with my Drawmer compressor. I have a question, if I to put the I/O plugin on the master bus to use a bus compressor or an EQ for the entire session for instance. I hear everything perfecty when playing back my session in Logic, but after exporting my session to MP3 or WAV I don't hear any sound. What is the proper way to print my Stereo Output to a track in Logic? I can't get that to work. Thank you
Create a stereo track with input monitoring engaged for printing the mix back and the input coming from the compressor output. That way you can also monitor the mix and hear exactly the final result.
Thanks man that seems to work. Only when I do that I hear some phasing issues, is there a way to get that fixed? Even when I record my Stereo Out the phasing is still audible
I have found the problem, the track recording Input 3 and 4 must be set to No Output! After recording in real time I enable the Stereo Out on that channel again and it works! Thank you :)
This is touching on a question I have. I use logic pro and have just one outboard compressor, but want to use it on multiple tracks. By "print" do you mean dial in the comp. for the first track, then bounce that track with the I/O engaged, then move on?
Great video - question - i have a extra old Sound interface with 2 input/2 main out. If i make a combination of those to interfaces in osx - could i use the 2 inputs and outputs for a outboard compressor? Since the main outs are the ones from my scarlet 2i2...... i asume the mainouts from my old interface could function as a “normal” Channel out
Thanks for the video, a question. How can I export my work, with the "compressor"? Already integrated, I do not know if I explain the question well ... That is, once I finish mixing my work, I want to import the work, but the track where the I / O is inserted stops playing, please help ...
You have to do a "Realtime" or "Print I/O" bounce of the region/track where the compressor is inserted. www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140032
HI , iv got 2 different compressors and would like to use one of them on my drum mix buss and other on a stereo buzz , so im just comeing out of my audio interface in to the compressors then in to a mixing desk for summing ,should put the I/o on a mix buss in logic /?? thanks
How do you have your Universal Control set up for this? I'm trying to get this to work in Pro Tools and am having all kinds of trouble, and I think it has to do with how Universal Control is routing.
Hi!! Thank you for the video! I did the physical connections just like you described them and I get a squeaky, nasty noise coming out of the speakers. I go from the interface OUT to compressor IN, and from compressor OUT to the interface IN. In the I/O I select the appropriate IN and OUT. I hear my drums, but overlapped with that annoying noise. Any ideas? Thank you! The interface is a Steinberg UR44, the compressor is a KT-2A from Klark Teknik.
Assuming that I’ve the same setting as you, in order to print the Mix I would create a new audio track coming from outputs 3/4 then hit record, I am right?
Olá sou do Brasil .... tenho a mesma Dúvida que a sua , exemplo : se eu tivesse na cadeia de efeitos um EQ > COMP > I/O , e se por acaso eu quisesse adicionar outro plugin depois do I/O ? Teria que imprimir primeiro o sinal do I/O pra depois usar o restante dos Insert in the box na cadeia ?
You dont need to record the processed signal into a new track? When I use the I/O plugin to mix withe the Antelope AFX if I bounce the project without recording a new processed signal the I/O plugin does'nt work..
Hey marty im trying to do a hybrid mixing using three firestudio projects but i cannot get the outputs to work correctly i keep getting stereo outputs from 1/2 and 7/8. Could you tell me how you fixed this problem in your setup?
I actually never had that problem. Do they sync when connected to each other - all blue lights? I basically only installed Universal Control from Presonus and the Firestudios synced automatically. One advice though- if you bought them second hand they may have different firmware versions, so probably check that too. You can do that in the Universal control program but you have to do it separately for each Firestudio!
Zed Marty Production Yeah they synced fine, in logic i am getting all my inputs, what i dont get is the multi outputs. I keep getting stereo on outputs 1/2. You mentioned something about that in this video actually.
hi , on my sound card I have only left and right out [1 and 2 ] ,I was thinking of buying a analog compressor for mastering , how could I do that ,thanks
you can totally use it, but you'll have to monitor from your laptop. If you only have 2 outputs (L/R), you'll need them as an output for the compressor so you won't be able to use them to monitor.
I was thinking the same thing. He just had to used the INSERT from the sound card. Out from *INSERT (send 1 and 2)* IN to compressor 1 and 2 input and OUT of compressor 1 and 2 to *INSERT (return 1 and 2)*..
+Juan Pablo Mangas Alonso Not quite familiar with Pro Tools but it should be configured in "Setup-> I/O". Have a look here: www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/10/19/free-tutorial-how-to-use-hardware-inserts-in-pro-tools-to-use-outboard-gear
Hi, thx for the video, I'v got a problem with the Ping! If I press the Ping button I/O plugin doesn't detect latency. It stays at 0 sam. When I hear the signal after external effect there is no phase shift, but If I want record the signal (throw the bus) there is latency problem. What I'm doing wrong? Thx for the answer.
How would use this scenario with an external Hardware REVERB?- how would you get a "send" over the a channel ? I tried but got confused because in Logic when you create a send it automatically creates a return channel, can I put the I/O plug on a "return" channel?
LOL- I actually just figured it out right after I typed that comment- so I have another question-- Im a Pro Tools Engineer for 15+ years- I want to commit to LPX now and so is there a way to MUTE the Aux Sends on and off? I know there is a little dial send wheel- but is there a shortcut or tip to throw an reverb or delay quickly on a sound?
So when using i/o on master bus, how do you print the song?! it’s not going to work if you just bounce the track! I know how to do it but I think this video is incomplete!
It's good if you use this hardware only for one channel. But what you can do, if you need safe compression for vocals, than use this compressor for another tracks?
You could print the vocal track (record the output with compression to another track), then set up a new I/O for your master bus or whatever else. You can't have really multiple "instances" of the compressor unless you literally owned multiple ones routed into multiple channels. However, one advantage to just having one and printing in real-time is that it removes decision paralysis and forces you to write things in stone, which I like, although I often keep the unprocessed files around just in case.
Vostorg You should do a straight record of the track (not Bounce) as it's an external signal coming in. The one thing that I/O does is work out the sample offset. BUT I would advise you to record the new track then ZOOM IN and make sure the track is offset / matched correctly.
Hello..nice video..btw..i have a Alesis midiverb 4 and i want to hook it to my Presonus audiobox vsl 1818 interface and im going to run it to Garageband..is this possible?thank’s and more power..
Just wondering would the iMac 21.5in with an intel i7 3.6-4.2 ghz quad core be good enough for intense music production I also configured 16gb of ram and 1tb of ssd
I have a set up of 6 hardware(s) and am starting to realize I cannot use them as a vocal chain into a Scarlett 2i2 interface correct? I need a bigger interface to be able to use latency compensation?
You can use them if you hook them up in a row, so one unit is connected to the other. First and last is then connected to the interface. But if you want to use them independently you‘ll need a bigger interface!
thank u for the reply dude i appreciate it, i actually was doing exactly that but i ask u this because of course there is latency issues which is why i decided to use them as aux tracks like plugins, i got a new interface a bigger on its not the best but itll do, tascam 16x08 and i also finally bought me the dbx 286 i been dying to get to record thru those 2 and edit with the rest, now i do not understand my interface like i thought i would it has 16 i/o's yet 8 knobs, im having trouble dedicating all my different hardware to the individual inputs, im confused because some the inputs are 1-8 outputs seem to be 9-16 but i only have control knobs for 1-8 :( idk man could u make a vid one day teaching us how to use bigger interfaces in the manner im refering too?
Is there a software for the Tascam? It is probably just a setting issue. I don‘t have any experience with the Tascam interfaces so it is a little difficult to give some advices. For example I have the Presonus Firestudio Project, 3 of them, and they sync automatically once the drivers are installed. You just have to tell the Presonus Mixer software that the DAW takes care of the routing.
i was actually able to get it working like i had the 2i2 working as the end of my vocal chain which is fine i can always compansate for latency but i would ideally like to just record through the dbx286 into the tascam and then create aux tracks with the rest of the hardware to use them as plugins like in ur video but i feel i am missing something, do i need a mixer or a/d d/a converter to be able to do this? i have 5 other effect processors id like to run the track out of the interface and into them but idk what im missing. i appreciate the help
hi buddy, i have a single channel compressor and i tried to do almost the same but i only sounds on 1 side, i have a motu ultralite mk3 trying to hook it up with a samsun X.comp compressor, but i cannot get it right.
LoudBox Music hey brother !! Thank you for ur help!! yes! It is a mono comp and i tryied to use it on vocal and ac/guitar but it does no sound when i put in mono tracks, but when i try i stereo tracks it does sound on 1 side! I l know that to be a mono comp should work well on mono tracks but what really confuse me is that why it works on stereo tracks ( on 1 side) when it should work on mono!. Again, Thanks for ur help!!
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You just changed my game. I’ve wanted to do this for so long but couldn’t find any info that was even close to being as informative as your video. Thank you. I’m off to my lair.
Great, have fun!
Very informative video. I’ve been mixing using vst’s and plugins for about two years and now deciding to incorporate some audio hardware into my workspace. Thanks for showing the basics in detail
Same!
It can further test the result of the recording. Example: In the track that placed the I / O create a Bus -Ex: bus1, insert this Bus in output of the same I / O track. Create a new Audio channel (mono or stereo) depends on the I / O you created. In this new audio track, in input, insert the same bus1 created. Arm the track to record / strike and see the result.
You save my life bro. I have to record and mixing lively choir and small strings ensemble tomorow. And I find your video. Thanks alot.
This is exactly what I needed thank you so much for making it all so clear and simple. Its now 5.29am, I can now try and sleep after finding how this is done. God Bless you my son!!!!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS THANK YOU for the simple straightforward explanation I have been so damn confused about and now am not!!!
Bravo Zed Mart :Your video was superb.Every other video online did not explain and show what wires go where and if they did it was like wires everywhere.I have Logic Pro X and Cubase I have tried for years with Cubase all I got was feedback.Plus in Cubase you need 4 ins and outs besides your mains.I got my Ultrafex II Stereo Widener to finally work.It makes it sound like you have Surround Sound.
Thank you, great that it works now!
You are a life saver. I have always wondered about this for years. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks dude. Would not work at first, then played around and added an EQ to the track in Logic, then suddenly had signal coming through via the compressor! Maybe a small bug in Logic I don't know. Just thought I would mention in case others get no sound/signal coming through at first. Cheers
Soooo old but still the best info out here... thank you.. I owe you a cold one....
Hi. I might be stupid but, how do you record that in Logic ? how do you record the processed signal once the audio has been through the external effect ? It only records the dry signal in my case. Thanks !
DID YOU GET AN ANSWER FROM SOMEWHERE ON THIS PROBLEM. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS NOW (sorry - Caps Lock on). I want to record guitar DI so i can edit the results easier then send the signal to a rack fx such as Axe 2 and then record the wet signal back into Logic. Thanks
Send the track to another track that is recording. Called printing.
Interesting. One question:
how do you level the procesing audio going back to Logic via line input 3-4 ? Do you turn up the volume on those line inputs of your Pre-Sonus? Where do you look to find out what the true signal level is?
Thank you for this vid cause I’m thinking of getting some hardware to combine with my software but I’m still confused but it’s not u but my hard head lol I will have to watch this a few times.
Great video. One question do you need to push record at this point for it to make the changes? Noob question
Yes, you have to do a real time bounce to print the track/mix.
thank you for your very clear video. I do not understand how do you decide that your monitors plays the signal that is coming back from the compressor, and not the signal of the original tracks?
Very nice - Thanks for the simplicity of sharing knowledge.
Thanks for the info, I got a 3630 and will definitely use it. Not gonna lie, didnt really hear a difference on the compression lol
hi, great video. Would you suggest to use the Send/Return output of your Presonus AI? I am having problem in connecting my Behringer UMC 404 to the Compressor Behringer T1952 with a Y cable. Basically I have tried all possible combinations, I just don't get signal from the inserts of my UMC.
I know it's been a year but any updates as to what the problem was? I was thinking the same regarding using the send/return with a Y cable to a Fireface 800
I've been searching for a video like this for ages. Thanks so much. Could you explain how to add an Equaliser aswell please?.....I.e.....Eq to Compressor to interface. Thanks
Hi mate, I'm also wondering. Did you get this going? I have a hunch you could daisy chain the fx units, adjusting each unit's wet/dry setting?
I seem to have a feedback loop no matter what I do. Is this possible to do with an interface that only has two monitor outputs? I have focusrite 18i8 + clarett 8 ADAT expansion. So I am doing outputs 1-2, and then inputs 11-12 (first two on the ADAT).
Also, maybe just as a video idea, any tips on how to have a faster workflow? If I print a track with outboard gear, now I have it going through the master bus and the outboard gear for a second time. So I could either turn off every plugin and outboard gear (time consuming), or I have to do a dry bounce and reopen the audio file in a different program/session. That's more of a workflow thing. Maybe there is a way to have two master bus? One with effects for printing, and a blank master bus just to hear playback of the printed track without another layer of effects. Hope that makes sense.
I got it eventually. I ended up using outputs 7-8 with a spdif cable because I noticed in another comment you said to not run it on the same outs as monitors. I also had to make sure that the track in logic was was set to 7-8 and and not "St Out". Thanks for the video!
Great vid brother! I have a ? And it might be a dumb ?, but if I buy a Manley stereo compressor , I can also use it for mono instruments/vocals correct ?
Nice. For some reason I was always lead to believe analog mixing wasn't an option in Logic. Coolios.
Great explanation my friend. So after you finish with it you just export it as mixdown ?
Yes, or do a real-time bounce for that track.
Thanks you save my life with this video !!!!!
Hey Zed , do you have a video in setting a template for a console in logic ?
To clarify if using this I/O for hardware to print, do you create a new track and record it with the outboard effect engaged on the track? I'm assuming you can't bounce out until it's printed? How would you do that on the master buss?
Right, you can‘t bounce out until it‘s printed. I recommend to do a real-time bounce.
Hi, thanks for this video. Can you please do a follow up using a fx unit. I understand how it would be connected from the info in this video. But how do you route it so it acts like plug in. Ie send and rerun. Thanks.
Thank you. Very informative! Changed my game.
Thank you for all of your videos.
Could you please detail what Mac and O/S you are able to use with your presonus interfaces? I have Firepods but I am unable to update any higher os hence unable to get Logic X due to no driver or support for the older Firepods.
Thanks
Mac Pro (2010) with OS Mojave
I'm struggling with this because the ping does not work without first routing to a bus (the
Logic Effects manual specifies that a bus routing is needed to use i/o). Using your method, the alignment will not be sample-accurate .
Did u find any solution, please help I noticed ur comments on some of the videos here in RUclips, or did u have some suggestions for me for connecting hardware to Logic without any headaches 😅🙏🏻
@@abdulrahmanaljubair7748 Yes, just send the audio track to an aux channel, and record to a new channel with the aux as the input source. The i/o plug goes on the aux channel.
Hi bud thanks for this, one question how do i use this kind of setup to create a mix bus?
Any idea why Im hearing a small latency when inserting my inputs ??? when output are inserted I start listening to the audio and compression ...but when I put the Inputs..a delay is happening ...even if I click the latency offset...
Great video. But how do you bounce/print regions using the i/o plug in?
This I also want to know
I tried this method with the same Presonus Fireproject and a DBX comp. , but I realized that my compressor diminished the signal from about 600 Hz and above, so more the hi low end was revealed and the resulted sound was a little bit boomy and thicky (muddy). Do you think at this price range the DBX 166XL model is a good option for using an ext. compressor?
first of it's kind, great video,
Thank you for this video tutorial, great explanation...
You‘re welcome!
With this quality of analog compressor, (I own the same model) would it be worth the trouble over just using a plug-in?
There will always be an argument that analog gear sounds better cause it can add saturation and different colors to the recording that you don’t really get digitally. Is it worth the hassle? Well it depends on what skill level you’re on when it comes to mixing. It won’t be a night and day difference using analog over digital but it can help get your mix from 95% to 100. At the end of the day it all comes down to how well you know how to use compression so if you’re a beginner I’d just use the ones in your daw cause they’re a lot more friendly and will help you understand how to truly use it. But there’s a reason the pros use analog gear. They know exactly what they want before they start turning the knobs so they get the analog saturation and color perfectly in tune with what they heard in their heads.
If it is worth buying an analog compressor
Are you having to print in realtime or can you bounce offline and still get the compression from he outboard gear.
Realtime bounce, the audio has to go physically through the compressor
Thank's Man. Heped me a lot. God bless you.
How would you set it up if you was setting up your compressor to the desk I have just bought a art pro 2 and the vu meter shows the input is coming through but I get no compression on the out put? Do you know why?
Really good video!!
cool thing that compensation ping! :D
Thanks a lot, great tuto man!!!
Glad I can help!
Mine just feeds back, it sounds like a banshee...I've tried 2 computers, 2 sets of leads, 3 effects and 2 interfaces...no difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
muito bom amigo!! só uma pergunta , o monitor referência é ligado na mesa ou na interface ?
Oi, kkkk, eu sou do Brasil, Desculpa pelo Inglês Muito Ruim kkkk, tenho a mesmo dúvida Que você !
Thank you so much for this video.
What if I wanted to use the I/O plugin on another vocal track ?
as long as you have the AD/DA Ins and out you can use as many I/O plugins as you need.
Elliot Killian Music But can you use the I/O plugin simultaneously at the same time with other tracks??
Thank you so much for this video 🤙🏽
very helpful! thanks!
Great video!
I'm an Analog synth noob, and would love to hear if you have any suggestions of a good synth to get that will easily work with Logic X like this (and take midi).
I mainly produce future bass/dance, but I really want to get something that will be versatile enough for branching out to less commercial genres!
Thanks!
Thanks! I'm not that familiar with synths actually, but have a look at the Behringer Deepmind - got some great reviews.
hello Mr Zed am called lex logic audio producer from uganda am using octa capture roland with its pre -amps it has its compressor inbulit how can i use it for that outing process please help
I tried this and for some reason my mix became mono. Can’t figure it out. Logic out 3-4 into channel 1-2 of my stereo EQ then back in 1-2 into logic. And it’s mono 🤷♂️
Awesome video!! - Great Help!! :D
thanks mate!
Outstanding!!!!!
I have my outboard effects in the 1/2 inserts outs and return, is this wrong?
Help I’m doing everything like this but I don’t get signal on my compressor , what should I do , what am I doing wrong ?
why aren't you using the sends and returns? then it can be used on any track...
Can I use the iO plug on the master bus to use let’s say an analog compressor or eq?
Hi Marty, thanks for the great video! I have been using this method on single tracks for a while now with my Drawmer compressor.
I have a question, if I to put the I/O plugin on the master bus to use a bus compressor or an EQ for the entire session for instance. I hear everything perfecty when playing back my session in Logic, but after exporting my session to MP3 or WAV I don't hear any sound. What is the proper way to print my Stereo Output to a track in Logic? I can't get that to work. Thank you
Create a stereo track with input monitoring engaged for printing the mix back and the input coming from the compressor output. That way you can also monitor the mix and hear exactly the final result.
Thanks man that seems to work. Only when I do that I hear some phasing issues, is there a way to get that fixed? Even when I record my Stereo Out the phasing is still audible
I have found the problem, the track recording Input 3 and 4 must be set to No Output! After recording in real time I enable the Stereo Out on that channel again and it works! Thank you :)
Yes, right! No problem!
good video but you forgot to mention that you might want to print before moving on to processing other tracks or the master.
+sebastian manuel right! Or you have enough outboard equipment :)
Enough is not a word we will fully understand lol
+sebastian manuel :-)
This is touching on a question I have. I use logic pro and have just one outboard compressor, but want to use it on multiple tracks. By "print" do you mean dial in the comp. for the first track, then bounce that track with the I/O engaged, then move on?
Great video - question - i have a extra old Sound interface with 2 input/2 main out.
If i make a combination of those to interfaces in osx - could i use the 2 inputs and outputs for a outboard compressor?
Since the main outs are the ones from my scarlet 2i2...... i asume the mainouts from my old interface could function as a “normal” Channel out
If you create an aggregate device in the Audio Midi Setup under OSX with those 2 it might work yes.
@@ZedMartyProduction thanx for quick reply mate - must tryout today
Thank you a million times
How do I connect the mixer audio interface and compressor?
Thanks for the video, a question.
How can I export my work, with the "compressor"? Already integrated, I do not know if I explain the question well ... That is, once I finish mixing my work, I want to import the work, but the track where the I / O is inserted stops playing, please help ...
You have to do a "Realtime" or "Print I/O" bounce of the region/track where the compressor is inserted. www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140032
HI , iv got 2 different compressors and would like to use one of them on my drum mix buss and other on a stereo buzz , so im just comeing out of my audio interface in to the compressors then in to a mixing desk for summing ,should put the I/o on a mix buss in logic /?? thanks
How do you have your Universal Control set up for this? I'm trying to get this to work in Pro Tools and am having all kinds of trouble, and I think it has to do with how Universal Control is routing.
I have all outputs disengaged in the Mixer window - so it reads: "Mix is currently bypassed" and the channels are greyed out.
Hi!! Thank you for the video! I did the physical connections just like you described them and I get a squeaky, nasty noise coming out of the speakers. I go from the interface OUT to compressor IN, and from compressor OUT to the interface IN. In the I/O I select the appropriate IN and OUT. I hear my drums, but overlapped with that annoying noise. Any ideas? Thank you! The interface is a Steinberg UR44, the compressor is a KT-2A from Klark Teknik.
That sounds like a feedback loop. Are there any monitoring outputs coming out on the same outputs as your comp is connected to?
Assuming that I’ve the same setting as you, in order to print the Mix I would create a new audio track coming from outputs 3/4 then hit record, I am right?
Olá sou do Brasil .... tenho a mesma Dúvida que a sua , exemplo : se eu tivesse na cadeia de efeitos um EQ > COMP > I/O , e se por acaso eu quisesse adicionar outro plugin depois do I/O ? Teria que imprimir primeiro o sinal do I/O pra depois usar o restante dos Insert in the box na cadeia ?
great explanation on this video.
+Benjamin Ruiz thanks mate!
How would I connect a Manley Variable Mu Mastering Version to Logic where I can run anything I want through it and also use it as a pre-amp?
i want to be able to set my compression from the external compressor while i play back my video ?
You dont need to record the processed signal into a new track?
When I use the I/O plugin to mix withe the Antelope AFX if I bounce the project without recording a new processed signal the I/O plugin does'nt work..
It should work with a real-time bounce.
Ok Now how do I record with my outboard Efx on Master bus ?The Mp3 is silent?
hey donald did you ever figure out this master bus/ mp3 silent thing?... I'm having the same trouble. I'm guessing it's a routing issue.
Hey marty im trying to do a hybrid mixing using three firestudio projects but i cannot get the outputs to work correctly i keep getting stereo outputs from 1/2 and 7/8. Could you tell me how you fixed this problem in your setup?
I actually never had that problem. Do they sync when connected to each other - all blue lights? I basically only installed Universal Control from Presonus and the Firestudios synced automatically. One advice though- if you bought them second hand they may have different firmware versions, so probably check that too. You can do that in the Universal control program but you have to do it separately for each Firestudio!
Zed Marty Production
Yeah they synced fine, in logic i am getting all my inputs, what i dont get is the multi outputs. I keep getting stereo on outputs 1/2. You mentioned something about that in this video actually.
hi , on my sound card I have only left and right out [1 and 2 ] ,I was thinking of buying a analog compressor for mastering , how could I do that ,thanks
you can totally use it, but you'll have to monitor from your laptop. If you only have 2 outputs (L/R), you'll need them as an output for the compressor so you won't be able to use them to monitor.
So why not use the inputs and outputs on the back of the audio interface?
I was thinking the same thing. He just had to used the INSERT from the sound card. Out from *INSERT (send 1 and 2)* IN to compressor 1 and 2 input and OUT of compressor 1 and 2 to *INSERT (return 1 and 2)*..
Probably because most interfaces don't have send and return connections, and the method he used will be universal for any interface.
Does thunderbolt get rid of the latency?
Nice tutorial. How can I do the same operation but doing Pro Tools?
+Juan Pablo Mangas Alonso Not quite familiar with Pro Tools but it should be configured in "Setup-> I/O". Have a look here: www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2015/10/19/free-tutorial-how-to-use-hardware-inserts-in-pro-tools-to-use-outboard-gear
LoudBox Music Great!! Thank you!!
how do you print once you've set your settings?
I also want to know this
Hi, thx for the video, I'v got a problem with the Ping! If I press the Ping button I/O plugin doesn't detect latency. It stays at 0 sam. When I hear the signal after external effect there is no phase shift, but If I want record the signal (throw the bus) there is latency problem. What I'm doing wrong? Thx for the answer.
Well that‘s strange. What is your buffer size in the overall settings?
How would use this scenario with an external Hardware REVERB?- how would you get a "send" over the a channel ? I tried but got confused because in Logic when you create a send it automatically creates a return channel, can I put the I/O plug on a "return" channel?
If you create an Aux/send track just put the I/O plugin on the Aux track itself.
LOL- I actually just figured it out right after I typed that comment- so I have another question-- Im a Pro Tools Engineer for 15+ years- I want to commit to LPX now and so is there a way to MUTE the Aux Sends on and off? I know there is a little dial send wheel- but is there a shortcut or tip to throw an reverb or delay quickly on a sound?
Awesome, thank you!!!!!!
No problem, you‘re welcome!
So when using i/o on master bus, how do you print the song?! it’s not going to work if you just bounce the track! I know how to do it but I think this video is incomplete!
You have to do a real-time bounce
To save this compression you need bounce in place this track? Or you need add new track and record?
+Vostorg Bounce in place won‘t work, but a realtime bounce through the standard Bounce „Project or Section“ should do the job.
It's good if you use this hardware only for one channel. But what you can do, if you need safe compression for vocals, than use this compressor for another tracks?
You could print the vocal track (record the output with compression to another track), then set up a new I/O for your master bus or whatever else. You can't have really multiple "instances" of the compressor unless you literally owned multiple ones routed into multiple channels. However, one advantage to just having one and printing in real-time is that it removes decision paralysis and forces you to write things in stone, which I like, although I often keep the unprocessed files around just in case.
Vostorg You should do a straight record of the track (not Bounce) as it's an external signal coming in. The one thing that I/O does is work out the sample offset. BUT I would advise you to record the new track then ZOOM IN and make sure the track is offset / matched correctly.
Do you then have to print the mix to a stereo track in real time?
Yes
Hi can you please maybe do a short video on the recording stage of using hardware out and back into logic to record
I also would like to know this stage
Hello..nice video..btw..i have a Alesis midiverb 4 and i want to hook it to my Presonus audiobox vsl 1818 interface and im going to run it to Garageband..is this possible?thank’s and more power..
good question - is there a I/O plugin in garageband like in Logic?
@@ZedMartyProduction hello,im afraid there´s no I/O on Garageband..
Then I‘m afraid it is not easy or even possible to do.
Good video, but how do I print this onto the recording?
Did you find out?
Just wondering would the iMac 21.5in with an intel i7 3.6-4.2 ghz quad core be good enough for intense music production I also configured 16gb of ram and 1tb of ssd
Yes, you should be safe with that configuration!
Thank you!
Song's name in 8:03?
Thank you
I have a set up of 6 hardware(s) and am starting to realize I cannot use them as a vocal chain into a Scarlett 2i2 interface correct? I need a bigger interface to be able to use latency compensation?
You can use them if you hook them up in a row, so one unit is connected to the other. First and last is then connected to the interface. But if you want to use them independently you‘ll need a bigger interface!
thank u for the reply dude i appreciate it, i actually was doing exactly that but i ask u this because of course there is latency issues which is why i decided to use them as aux tracks like plugins, i got a new interface a bigger on its not the best but itll do, tascam 16x08 and i also finally bought me the dbx 286 i been dying to get to record thru those 2 and edit with the rest, now i do not understand my interface like i thought i would it has 16 i/o's yet 8 knobs, im having trouble dedicating all my different hardware to the individual inputs, im confused because some the inputs are 1-8 outputs seem to be 9-16 but i only have control knobs for 1-8 :( idk man could u make a vid one day teaching us how to use bigger interfaces in the manner im refering too?
Is there a software for the Tascam? It is probably just a setting issue. I don‘t have any experience with the Tascam interfaces so it is a little difficult to give some advices.
For example I have the Presonus Firestudio Project, 3 of them, and they sync automatically once the drivers are installed. You just have to tell the Presonus Mixer software that the DAW takes care of the routing.
i was actually able to get it working like i had the 2i2 working as the end of my vocal chain which is fine i can always compansate for latency but i would ideally like to just record through the dbx286 into the tascam and then create aux tracks with the rest of the hardware to use them as plugins like in ur video but i feel i am missing something, do i need a mixer or a/d d/a converter to be able to do this? i have 5 other effect processors id like to run the track out of the interface and into them but idk what im missing. i appreciate the help
Does anyone know what kind of kind of cables those Colored TRS Patch cables are? I've been looking for some quality ones.
those are not trs in fact this guy´s wiring is awfully low in gauge imo
those are regular TS patch cables
... souuu... thank you 😉
I have an Avalon 747. The operation did not work
But How do you Print the effected outboard signal to a new track.
Bounce in place in realtime of the track with I/O on
hi buddy, i have a single channel compressor and i tried to do almost the same but i only sounds on 1 side, i have a motu ultralite mk3 trying to hook it up with a samsun X.comp compressor, but i cannot get it right.
+Danny Vallarosa hi! So it's a mono compressor right? Do you use it on a mono track?
LoudBox Music hey brother !! Thank you for ur help!! yes! It is a mono comp and i tryied to use it on vocal and ac/guitar but it does no sound when i put in mono tracks, but when i try i stereo tracks it does sound on 1 side! I l know that to be a mono comp should work well on mono tracks but what really confuse me is that why it works on stereo tracks ( on 1 side) when it should work on mono!. Again, Thanks for ur help!!
+Danny Vallarosa well that's strange. The routing and I/O plugin inputs/outputs are correct?
solved it bro, thanks.
Hey Danny I'm currently struggling with the almost same problem as you had. I wonder what your solution was?
when i route my ua apollo twin to the 3-4 line outs no sound comes from logic pro??
Go to your UA Console software and under Cue Outputs, make sure Mix is highlighted instead of Line 3/4.
Can I do this if I have only one Chanel in my compressor?
Sure! Works with stereo and mono equipment.
How is it with mono?