In the skate justice system, NBD based offenses are considered especially heinous. The dedicated detectives who investigate these incidents are members of an elite squad known as the Special Haters Unit.
This is a based ass comment but it does make all the GH fanboys kinda look like journos. Try saying something even slightly negative against him in the comments and you'll be hounded for weeks.
Front truck doesn't cast a shadow, back truck does, so he would've clipped his back wheels had he gone straight-on. If I were him I would go back and get it clean to put the controversy to rest
We do need more tricks called out! This shit is funny, but so true. I love tyshawns skating, but he for sure didn't clear the table top. He absolutely went off to the side and they seemingly tried to hide that fact with a shitty camera angle. Maybe he'll go back and try it again and land it for real for real. its one thing to do that to some regular filler trick, but not on an NBD ender...
Imagine bei g old enough and not too jaded by the skateboard world to think "wow a sw ollie over a bench length ways" and think nothing more of it, maby enjoy the part? Skateboarding if full of fake shit end of the day, unless there's footy to go with a picture I'd say a good 60% of pictures aren't makes.. Sure we have video proof he did it but now we have a scientific break down about how he didn't do it straight on? 😂
People also have to realize that those school tables are small af to begin with. If your from the east coast or Midwest you gotta know those are about 1/3rd the size of a park picnic table. They’re for toddlers basically.
That’s what I would be massively impressed with. Someone setting up an adult sized picnic table next to one of those preschool sized ones (to make it a badass vid) and simply ollieing over it the “easy” way.
Super random but in high school one day this homeless (living by himself) hippy kid with dreads shows up and enrolls. He'd kick it with the skaters and wear high ankle work boots and a canvas like green jacket, anyways one day kids were jumping the traditional size picnic bench not long ways but sideways and this hippy kid with his heavy boots fully clears the bench and then some and does like a pure out of the movies ninja kick in the air. Everyone was pretty hyped up after that and we ended up stacking 2 skate decks on the table as a challenge and watched as he perfectly cleared it, kid made a group of friends that day and was quite a bit less homeless. Some people just have the jump and even heavy ass work boots aren't gonna stop them.
love this so much. really appreciate you stepping to one of the "unassailable" cool guys. TJ is undeniably an amazing skater; that said, to me many of his can tricks are dubious as only one set of trucks goes over the can, yet i still enjoy seeing them :P
Just look at his shadow, It's clearly over the top of the table when in still frame, even given the angle of the sun, that is definite proof he didn't clear the back of the top, but over the seat. Basic high school science, Angle of Incidence(The Sun) equals angle of reflection(Tyshawn) equals no NBD.
It seems even simpler to me. If you look at the front of the table before tyshawn ollies over or around it, you can see the destinct corner edges of where the front corners are established, and from there you can see where they start to run the length down the side of the table the long way. @4:19 you can clearly see where his back wheels are lower and on the side of the table top too because you can see where the front corner of the table starts, and to me looks like hes behind and to the side of it. However i do think his initial ollie was over the front highest point of the start of the table, but like you said, was not done in a straight on point A. To point B. He did drifft off a bit in his landing from the starting point.
yeah 100%. I think his diagram based on shadows was misleading because the sun wasn't at a perfect 90º from the bench (probs more about 60º), based on lines and shadows alone it can still be argued that he cleared full length just did a diagonal path across the table. but that frame is proof he didn't clear, not by that much but still.
@@clockworkcrimson i agree, im glad he did all that though cuz it was honestly hilarious. I thought he was gunna put the nail in the coffin at the end by pointing out what I stated in my comment, but he never did. People can say its petty and splitting hairs, but hes right in my opinion.
In the UK our steps are 18" tall each - making El Toro an eight set over here... Our rubbish bins (trash cans) are also 18 times bigger... And the ground here is like a misformed cheese grater and it's always raining...
Sorry for all the hate you got from this. But, what you are saying makes Sense. I watched the nine club podcast and they mentioned it as well. But then they brushed it off because of how high he ollied. But it was suspect 110%
It was actually shot on a film set. The shadow on the side of table was caused by an abysmal overhead lighting job by one of the techs. Couldn't even clean it up in post. Definitely gonna need some reshoots for this one.
That doesn't even make sense. For one he's not being shown from the top of the clip. Its being shot caddy cornered and not from the top were not looking down on him.
I love the striking contrast betwixt this in depth analysis,- danke btw, -and the seemingly inobjective and blind acceptance by the 9club lads in their breakdown vid of this.
First thing I noticed when I saw the clip, lol. I do feel that an ollie over something huge but with a slight clip can add to the sickness - the street gap with the rail on the other end someone did recently comes to mind. But that's something else than ollieing a bit to the side of what you're trying to get over, especially if your whole thing is superhuman athlete's pop. I like Tyshawn's skating a lot and feel he brings something unique to skateboarding, but this is the kind of thing that can smudge an otherwise pristine career. Not in the order of Sheck's fantasy backside flip down El Torro, but 'all eyes on me' isn't an excuse for not using your own, either.
This channel is amazing in every aspect! I myself am a washed up skater serving tables/bartend and enjoy what i do. I know who i am. I enjoy conversation with strangers weather they hate me or i disagree with everything they stand for. It keeps perspective of what we aren't use to and discomfort. Everyone should have there own opinion and how life is perceived (that is style in my opinion). If you're willing to share your thoughts with passion and also willing to listen DAT SHIT IS GLORIOUS! This is ramble but i stand by what you're saying and shit sometimes needs to be called out. Thank you for the channel. Keep it up and most importantly keep being you. Genuine shit form day one. Love it
If you look at his shadow on takeoff, you can see that the shadow his board casts is perfectly in line with the shadow cast by the bench on the camera side. This means that the initial takeoff you diagramed was more than generous. In actuality he seems to have started his Ollie and landed his Ollie over the bench only. If you investigate further and see the height of the tabletop in comparison to the height of his knee upon landing, you will see that when he lands, on the skateboard, the tabletop is slightly below his knee height. If he were standing, this would be approximately knee height or slightly above. Furthermore, if you look at the height of the bench, relative to the height of the tabletop and adjust for angle, you can see the bench is approximately half the height of the tabletop. This means, Tyshawn effectively Ollie an object half of his knee height. In summation, Tyshawn switch Ollied an object shin high, for a distance of approximately 4 1/2 to 5 feet. I call whack ass shenanigans.
shit like this has been going on for ever in skateboarding. if you have watched enough skating you knew he didn't clear it. sketchy editing is a part of skateboarding. I appreciate the in depth look, good work. (edit - it doesn't take away from how insane the ollie was. he has set the bar very high and is one of my favorites. but its a deceptive angle.
It definitely takes away from how insane the ollie was if you go from clearing the tabletop to clearing the bench. Those are completely different obstacles. What on Earth are you smoking in order to equate those and say nothing is taken away between the two? Dude... 😂 I'm embarrassed for you that you would equate those. Do you even skate?
At 2:03 there's a frame where his back truck is the same height as the table top and it looks like half the board is already further out than the table. The angle probably makes it look like he's further out, but it's clear he's at the corner of the table, not the middle. The shadow of the truck is also right next to the shadow of the corner.
love the unhinged geometry lesson s/o Pythagoras. so the first argument relies on the red line *actually* being completely straight and fully parallel to the table right, a slight angle or bend throws off the optical evidence of where youre saying tyshawn ollie's from
Thank you, you went several notches beyond what I'd have to justify this - and that's what I love about this channel. Zeroing in on the right and wrong of it, whatever it is. This trick irked me from the instant I saw it. Far more than enough reason to be impressed by his ability on a board, but if the footage (in your soty season part at that) is claiming that you switch ollied a picnic table (probably the most consistent and replicable obstacle across all of professional skateboarding video parts in the U.S. - therefore arguably the best measuring stick of ability and general greatness across professional skateboarders)... and the footage doesn't convey that you did it with certainty, if it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, I mean, you might have done the biggest switch ollie ever, but what are you claiming, did you do what the footage is claiming you did? I think your take is right, no disrespect to Tyshawn, but I too feel it's got to be more definite than this clip.
It's true. I mean in this case it's also hard because you will get all the people hyping it up because it still looks epic (and is epic) but at the end of the day it's not proper enough to be a made NBD, this trick is still NBD for sure and I think most people who watched the part first time probably felt the same way they just didn't say it. People are also tripping saying "it doesn't matter", because this type of thing is basically the only thing that matters and is part of the job if you are a Pro skater. You could compare it to something like being a Pro football/soccer player and saying you scored a goal because the ball ended up in the back of the net, yet it failed to enter through the confines of the front of the goal.
For you not being a physics teacher this is absolutely incredible. I hope you win Louie SOTY. Pairing skateboarding with brain gymnastics... Who would have thought. I must say I love it a lot. Very gutsy, very convincing.
i work in film as a boom operator. the shadow thing is something i work around every single day of work. the shadow cast on the near side of picnic table indicates to me that tyshawn's skateboard is closer to camera than the near side of the picnic table. thus not 100% clearing the full deal. i still wear his shoes tho.
yeah he did the go off to the side thing...I realized that when I seen it but didn't go back and slow it down or anything like you've done here, I didn't really care...I'm not really big on doing straight flat ground tricks over things, I don't really understand the appeal, I think its cool to be able to pop a high and far flat ground trick over something, but its not my favorite kind of skating. Like a lot of people have done on trash cans etc in the past...idk why he took this one like this...but yeah, he didn't go completely over it...he went off to the side for the last couple feet and they used some angle trickery to make it look a little better. As I said, kindof like what numerous people were doing especially in the 90's and early 2k's going off to the side over things like trashcans and poles.
Cmon man you know this was the true ender, picnic tables are one of the most historical skate obstacles and I think most people watching wanted to see this the most
Dylans kicky was better in many ways, a gap is easier to clear with a bs rotation and dylan was pretty short so hucking up that would've been tougher imo.
i agree. little ater give food for thought you saw with your own eyes from askew'd angle. when TJ switch flips it spot on in the to be continued he better give props to keenan in SOTY. i do hope he stays true to the game and don't go real estate tycoon. mark gonzales has forever been on brand never forget the greatest.
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the picnic table diagram is looking like a bomb ass IC graphic
Yeah someone call up Mikey Alfred and tell him to make some of those graphics on the used midler boards
😂
13:45 if that was on a graphic I'd probs buy it haha
this one
700k nft
This is the petty-ass bullshit I subscribe to this channel for
9/10
Hahahaha
The shadow was pretty damning
Lol the petty came from people butthurt by people saying he didn't clear it, this is a petty response lol
😂😂
Same😅😅😅
In the skate justice system, NBD based offenses are considered especially heinous. The dedicated detectives who investigate these incidents are members of an elite squad known as the Special Haters Unit.
Bum bumm
These are their stories *DUN DUN*
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😂🤣 bro I just fell in my ass reading this
ah yes, the SHUs
Once joa started talking about how the shadows were being cast I knew this was a certified banger
I ran to the comments as soon as he said sun bout a shadow 💀 we don’t deserve this man.
“Let’s talk about shadows”
"journalism is when you tell people what they don't want to hear. everything else is PR"
Yep, can't be mad at someone just because their honesty is hard to hear!
So the comment section is full of journalists?
This is a based ass comment but it does make all the GH fanboys kinda look like journos. Try saying something even slightly negative against him in the comments and you'll be hounded for weeks.
PR? Let me finish that word for you: PROPAGANDA
Front truck doesn't cast a shadow, back truck does, so he would've clipped his back wheels had he gone straight-on. If I were him I would go back and get it clean to put the controversy to rest
The problem is I dunno if he's actually that close...
I am him
@@fjordan2345 wdym by that
He'll probably switch flip it eventually
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this video is completely psychotic and it's hands down my favorite that you've done
Hey 👋 I’m you from the future can you tell me are credit card numbers cuz I forgot 😂
We do need more tricks called out! This shit is funny, but so true. I love tyshawns skating, but he for sure didn't clear the table top. He absolutely went off to the side and they seemingly tried to hide that fact with a shitty camera angle. Maybe he'll go back and try it again and land it for real for real. its one thing to do that to some regular filler trick, but not on an NBD ender...
@@rickyjames1659 What's even more fucking stupid is that he's wearing different clothes on the cover. Also clearly not a photo of a make.
@@rickyjames1659 But does it really matter
Its not psychotic, its logical🤗
holy shit feels like i just watched a Khan Academy video
Hahahahaha real, comment still good 2 years later.
This is a certified joa classic
You know it’s serious when ms paint diagrams come out
is it that serious if theres all those straight lines drawn and he can't spare one for the picnic table representation?
Joa, you should be a county judge. Always fair and unbiased
*district
@@Seangalusha hey bro, there’s an edit comment button if u didn’t know
everyone on youtube says joa is mean but i think he’s just being real and fair
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Gay.
I am a ballistics expert and I back this theory 100%.
I went to MIT and I also back this theory
Ima dumb nigga and it don’t take a genius to understand 🤣
Bobby De Keyzer's tasteful manual game so strong that we got gamers out here conducting science experiments trying to find the secret ingredient.
I think John Dilo unlocked the cheat code for manual tricks
Bobby is highly underrated, top tier skater
Nah daewon unlocked those cheats 20+ years ago
@@recession81 he 360 flip over your mom, which is practically the size of a picnic table 😂🤭so fair enough.
@@brocksamson9737 Lol Mom jokes what are you 12 🤣
I love that he’s providing irrefutable proof and staying calm so people can’t pass it off as bullshit
Imagine bei g old enough and not too jaded by the skateboard world to think "wow a sw ollie over a bench length ways" and think nothing more of it, maby enjoy the part? Skateboarding if full of fake shit end of the day, unless there's footy to go with a picture I'd say a good 60% of pictures aren't makes.. Sure we have video proof he did it but now we have a scientific break down about how he didn't do it straight on? 😂
Irrefutable - no, clam - yes, unhinged, definitley
We got a redo so alls well
Frog could put these drawings on a shirt and yall would buy them
hahahhahahahaha well played
absolutely 🗣
Fax lmaooo
He prolly celebrated and the filmer and homeys were to.scared to check him or say anything. Lol, love this video
W E M A K E I T L O O K E A S Y Y Y Y Y Y
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Proof that skaters are smarter than our teachers
*proof that joa is smarter than our teachers
what if ur teacher skates tho?
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol then he’s the goat
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol then he’s the goat
Joa talking about corners, shadows and drawing picnic benches made me feel schizophrenic
Normal pills aren’t half as tasty as joa pills
Not the dynamic shadows moving again 😩
People also have to realize that those school tables are small af to begin with. If your from the east coast or Midwest you gotta know those are about 1/3rd the size of a park picnic table. They’re for toddlers basically.
moved from midwest to cali, once i saw the tables here it all made sense hahaha
Yeah even just watching this video the picnic table looks tiny
Ppl soon be doing NBD's on techdeck tables
That’s what I would be massively impressed with. Someone setting up an adult sized picnic table next to one of those preschool sized ones (to make it a badass vid) and simply ollieing over it the “easy” way.
Super random but in high school one day this homeless (living by himself) hippy kid with dreads shows up and enrolls. He'd kick it with the skaters and wear high ankle work boots and a canvas like green jacket, anyways one day kids were jumping the traditional size picnic bench not long ways but sideways and this hippy kid with his heavy boots fully clears the bench and then some and does like a pure out of the movies ninja kick in the air. Everyone was pretty hyped up after that and we ended up stacking 2 skate decks on the table as a challenge and watched as he perfectly cleared it, kid made a group of friends that day and was quite a bit less homeless. Some people just have the jump and even heavy ass work boots aren't gonna stop them.
what’s worst than this is, the new logo for his new board company king
😹😹 facts, be looking like hop king
kang
They sell it at ross
shit looks like a walmart brand lmao
That shit is sooo bad! Makes disorder look well thought out lol
Can you do the JFK assassination next?
Was trying to tell my friends this but no one wanted to hear it
Your friends are gay lmao
get new friends. or just get rid of friends entirely.
love this so much. really appreciate you stepping to one of the "unassailable" cool guys. TJ is undeniably an amazing skater; that said, to me many of his can tricks are dubious as only one set of trucks goes over the can, yet i still enjoy seeing them :P
The video that no one but 50 twitch viewers wanted that we didn't know we needed
I spit out my mountain dew when you presented the shadow line argument
Tyshawn definitely didn't clear that table
This truly is top tier journalism
Just look at his shadow, It's clearly over the top of the table when in still frame, even given the angle of the sun, that is definite proof he didn't clear the back of the top, but over the seat. Basic high school science, Angle of Incidence(The Sun) equals angle of reflection(Tyshawn) equals no NBD.
Really enjoyed the casting a shadow grade 2 lesson refresher within your case file
Nice I’m sitting on the toilet rn so your video isn’t the only thing that just dropped.
your balls finally dropped?
would be the most hilarious thing if backlash/drama transpires from this video and indirectly causes tyshawn to lose at getting SOTY hahaha
I think nyjahs back tail did that hehe
@@jerrydiamond7219 no
tfunk deserves it more either way
@@bakersfieldwhat3068 t funk deserves it
@@bakersfieldwhat3068 not after the little incident with lennie kirk
It seems even simpler to me. If you look at the front of the table before tyshawn ollies over or around it, you can see the destinct corner edges of where the front corners are established, and from there you can see where they start to run the length down the side of the table the long way. @4:19 you can clearly see where his back wheels are lower and on the side of the table top too because you can see where the front corner of the table starts, and to me looks like hes behind and to the side of it. However i do think his initial ollie was over the front highest point of the start of the table, but like you said, was not done in a straight on point A. To point B. He did drifft off a bit in his landing from the starting point.
full didnt see that, great observation
Its switch though not nollie
@@oliewray8357 switch ollie**
yeah 100%. I think his diagram based on shadows was misleading because the sun wasn't at a perfect 90º from the bench (probs more about 60º), based on lines and shadows alone it can still be argued that he cleared full length just did a diagonal path across the table. but that frame is proof he didn't clear, not by that much but still.
@@clockworkcrimson i agree, im glad he did all that though cuz it was honestly hilarious. I thought he was gunna put the nail in the coffin at the end by pointing out what I stated in my comment, but he never did. People can say its petty and splitting hairs, but hes right in my opinion.
This angle is key for beginner skaters filming their first Ollie over a traffic cone, looks like they went over it, in reality was next to it.
bed time stories :)
Don’t do an apology video, the apology should be towards you.
science never lie bruh, the shadow gave it away, missed the table top by at least 6 inches
In the UK our steps are 18" tall each - making El Toro an eight set over here...
Our rubbish bins (trash cans) are also 18 times bigger...
And the ground here is like a misformed cheese grater and it's always raining...
No wonder penny was good he had to endure more than any pro will ever do nowadays
Sorry for all the hate you got from this. But, what you are saying makes Sense. I watched the nine club podcast and they mentioned it as well. But then they brushed it off because of how high he ollied. But it was suspect 110%
The Tater dropping BIG FACTS.
Just saw his reply pop up on Instagram.
Watching this back and forth is better than any World Cup
Same lol
The conspiracy theory arc of GH, the one arc we as the fans deserve.
It was actually shot on a film set. The shadow on the side of table was caused by an abysmal overhead lighting job by one of the techs. Couldn't even clean it up in post. Definitely gonna need some reshoots for this one.
it is not possible to cast a shadow on the outer side of the table if the objekt that casts the shadow is above that table. Not in this reality
That doesn't even make sense. For one he's not being shown from the top of the clip. Its being shot caddy cornered and not from the top were not looking down on him.
Gifted Teacher
the tyshawners aren't going to like this
Its definitely gonna be a racism to some of the simpler people in our society.
Im a fan of his skating but nobody gets a pass with soty on the line
I feel like you explained that so much more than needed
How could tyshawn anticipate there would be a forensic analysis of his shadow to prove he didn’t do the trick properly 😂 was not expecting that
I love the striking contrast betwixt this in depth analysis,- danke btw, -and the seemingly inobjective and blind acceptance by the 9club lads in their breakdown vid of this.
Damn Tyshon tried to pass off that low ollie haha
You are absolutely right. Its still cool, but yeah, he absolutely did not go over the table longways. He went off the the side.
First thing I noticed when I saw the clip, lol. I do feel that an ollie over something huge but with a slight clip can add to the sickness - the street gap with the rail on the other end someone did recently comes to mind. But that's something else than ollieing a bit to the side of what you're trying to get over, especially if your whole thing is superhuman athlete's pop. I like Tyshawn's skating a lot and feel he brings something unique to skateboarding, but this is the kind of thing that can smudge an otherwise pristine career. Not in the order of Sheck's fantasy backside flip down El Torro, but 'all eyes on me' isn't an excuse for not using your own, either.
I think you should do the moon landing, next.
Absolutely living up to the namesake. Very entertaining thank you Joa
so so blessed to be alive for this 🤲
my favorite journalist to never win a pulitzer
I just judge his clothing choices. Those jeans like what are those!?
This is one of the funniest videos, "this could potentially affect the outcome of SOTY". I kind of love the way of the diagram breakdown.
Love your videos, keep exposing the weird bullshit that's a part of skateboarding culture.
a part
@@elinanilsson1327 happy now?
@@DaytonJoey lol I definitely am
Here's something else to ruin you're view of the skateboard world. 60% of photos aren't makes.
He touched a nerve because tyshwan just went on Instagram live saying people need to stop speaking on him lol
Didn’t Tyshawn re do the switch Ollie over the picnic table twice just for you ?
Make a video linking w Tyshawn so he can get a redemption sw Ollie over the whole thing
This channel is amazing in every aspect! I myself am a washed up skater serving tables/bartend and enjoy what i do. I know who i am. I enjoy conversation with strangers weather they hate me or i disagree with everything they stand for. It keeps perspective of what we aren't use to and discomfort. Everyone should have there own opinion and how life is perceived (that is style in my opinion). If you're willing to share your thoughts with passion and also willing to listen DAT SHIT IS GLORIOUS! This is ramble but i stand by what you're saying and shit sometimes needs to be called out. Thank you for the channel. Keep it up and most importantly keep being you. Genuine shit form day one. Love it
Could we address how creepy Jason Dill was on the Osborne show? Season 1 episode 8
i appreciate the convo we had on twitter about this! much love to u and ur channel ❤️
If you look at his shadow on takeoff, you can see that the shadow his board casts is perfectly in line with the shadow cast by the bench on the camera side. This means that the initial takeoff you diagramed was more than generous. In actuality he seems to have started his Ollie and landed his Ollie over the bench only.
If you investigate further and see the height of the tabletop in comparison to the height of his knee upon landing, you will see that when he lands, on the skateboard, the tabletop is slightly below his knee height. If he were standing, this would be approximately knee height or slightly above. Furthermore, if you look at the height of the bench, relative to the height of the tabletop and adjust for angle, you can see the bench is approximately half the height of the tabletop. This means, Tyshawn effectively Ollie an object half of his knee height.
In summation, Tyshawn switch Ollied an object shin high, for a distance of approximately 4 1/2 to 5 feet.
I call whack ass shenanigans.
Agreed
Are these dudes like 7’5” or are these west coast picnic tables tiny?
shit like this has been going on for ever in skateboarding. if you have watched enough skating you knew he didn't clear it. sketchy editing is a part of skateboarding. I appreciate the in depth look, good work.
(edit - it doesn't take away from how insane the ollie was. he has set the bar very high and is one of my favorites. but its a deceptive angle.
Absolute truth.
It definitely takes away from how insane the ollie was if you go from clearing the tabletop to clearing the bench. Those are completely different obstacles. What on Earth are you smoking in order to equate those and say nothing is taken away between the two? Dude... 😂 I'm embarrassed for you that you would equate those. Do you even skate?
thank you for being embarrassed for me. now I can go smoke my meth in peace and not be embarrassed. bless ! @@AnneALias
At 2:03 there's a frame where his back truck is the same height as the table top and it looks like half the board is already further out than the table.
The angle probably makes it look like he's further out, but it's clear he's at the corner of the table, not the middle. The shadow of the truck is also right next to the shadow of the corner.
This is the best video I’ve ever seen on RUclips
Where tf is the Nyjah Shine On review?!
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Thank you. Nobody can say that Tyshawn isn't an amazing skater but he's still human, too.
😂
@@communitycodes300 fanboy detected
I think Ty's tricks over garbage cans are sus AF as well
whos here after tyshawn did it again
You mean did it for the first time after getting busted?
we all knew this was coming
This is the Zapruder Film of Skateboarding 😂😂😂
you could be a physics teacher this was like Kahn Academy
Watching joa drawing examples of the table is shocking
joa?
@@furleysbrain joa deez nuts
love the unhinged geometry lesson s/o Pythagoras. so the first argument relies on the red line *actually* being completely straight and fully parallel to the table right, a slight angle or bend throws off the optical evidence of where youre saying tyshawn ollie's from
Thank you, you went several notches beyond what I'd have to justify this - and that's what I love about this channel. Zeroing in on the right and wrong of it, whatever it is. This trick irked me from the instant I saw it. Far more than enough reason to be impressed by his ability on a board, but if the footage (in your soty season part at that) is claiming that you switch ollied a picnic table (probably the most consistent and replicable obstacle across all of professional skateboarding video parts in the U.S. - therefore arguably the best measuring stick of ability and general greatness across professional skateboarders)... and the footage doesn't convey that you did it with certainty, if it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, I mean, you might have done the biggest switch ollie ever, but what are you claiming, did you do what the footage is claiming you did? I think your take is right, no disrespect to Tyshawn, but I too feel it's got to be more definite than this clip.
Nice thesis bro
It's true. I mean in this case it's also hard because you will get all the people hyping it up because it still looks epic (and is epic) but at the end of the day it's not proper enough to be a made NBD, this trick is still NBD for sure and I think most people who watched the part first time probably felt the same way they just didn't say it. People are also tripping saying "it doesn't matter", because this type of thing is basically the only thing that matters and is part of the job if you are a Pro skater. You could compare it to something like being a Pro football/soccer player and saying you scored a goal because the ball ended up in the back of the net, yet it failed to enter through the confines of the front of the goal.
I gasped when you pulled the shadow out of your briefcase
For you not being a physics teacher this is absolutely incredible. I hope you win Louie SOTY. Pairing skateboarding with brain gymnastics... Who would have thought. I must say I love it a lot. Very gutsy, very convincing.
i work in film as a boom operator. the shadow thing is something i work around every single day of work.
the shadow cast on the near side of picnic table indicates to me that tyshawn's skateboard is closer to camera than the near side of the picnic table. thus not 100% clearing the full deal. i still wear his shoes tho.
This a master class in shit talking
felt like i just watched a lecture for school
Joa is a genius for this reaction to Zach Dowdy. Cant wait for the skatepark review next vid 🤣
Dowdy is a really nice dude so I hope it doesn’t end up in a big beef
What’s perfect is that Joa hadn’t really stopped making the videos that Zack was mentioning, he just posted them on Patreon
Who’s joa
My man out here basically doing the skate version of a soccer offside check
yeah he did the go off to the side thing...I realized that when I seen it but didn't go back and slow it down or anything like you've done here, I didn't really care...I'm not really big on doing straight flat ground tricks over things, I don't really understand the appeal, I think its cool to be able to pop a high and far flat ground trick over something, but its not my favorite kind of skating. Like a lot of people have done on trash cans etc in the past...idk why he took this one like this...but yeah, he didn't go completely over it...he went off to the side for the last couple feet and they used some angle trickery to make it look a little better. As I said, kindof like what numerous people were doing especially in the 90's and early 2k's going off to the side over things like trashcans and poles.
no one asked 💀
Your name doesn’t lie lmfao. You got that right for sure. This is a gifted level
It's beautiful to imagine your camera being totally dead and you still making this video by yourself
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When I saw the clip in his part for the first time I thought “damn he didn’t even really clear it” without any thought lol
The switch ollie wasn’t even his ender, it was a backside flip over the gap that was Dylan’s ender in cherry
your mom’s ending in cherry
Didn’t Dylan kickflip it?
Cmon man you know this was the true ender, picnic tables are one of the most historical skate obstacles and I think most people watching wanted to see this the most
Dylans kicky was better in many ways, a gap is easier to clear with a bs rotation and dylan was pretty short so hucking up that would've been tougher imo.
@@horrorskateboards i agree it was better but dylan seemed pretty tall to me
This is up there with analyzing the Zapruder JFK video. Well done.
Khan academy trick tutorial
So he fronted on the table & ollied the bench area that is lower on the landing side?
He just went live and dropped another attempt with a different angle, hating so gifted we got the actual trick.
You reminded me of my 3rd grade math teacher while drawing that table.
How much dill pay you to make this
i gained brain cells watching this
Maybe not a total make but I think it’s rad still also anything that gets mister Lopez soty he really deserves it
Mikey alfred really needs to snatch some of those diagrams, would make for a great graphic to put on those resanded decks.
TJ did this on purpose. He is holding out on the switch dolphin over the table
i agree. little ater give food for thought you saw with your own eyes from askew'd angle. when TJ switch flips it spot on in the to be continued he better give props to keenan in SOTY. i do hope he stays true to the game and don't go real estate tycoon. mark gonzales has forever been on brand never forget the greatest.