Ep 3 - Turning £10K of Wood into SHAVINGS! | Building a 42,000 Year Old Guitar!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
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In this episode, Ben is working on the body of this guitar build, using the first chunk of 42-year-old Swamp Kauri. This is going to be a hollow body guitar, which means that Ben has to turn this £10K piece of timber into Shavings!
This guitar is a commission and the client has requested that Ben use these shavings, embed them in resin, and build a guitar for charity. Comment below with suggestions - what should Ben build with these Shavings & Resin?
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction & slight recap
1:29 This template set is available at crimsonguitars.com
3:29 Making a router base for the new Triton Tools TRA002
7:30 Stop procrastinating Ben - get routing
9:48 Saving the Shavings to ask the Client what to do with them
10:44 Success & and routing the lip for the top
12:20 Perfect fit
14:05 Braces and a bridge plate for the top, cut from the neck blank
16:00 Adding a piece to the headstock
17:35 Cutting the braces to size and positioning them
18:00 Wny is Ben Bevelling the inner edge of the sound hole?
20:10 Gluing in the braces
21:25 Back to shaping the body on the bandsaw and spindle sander
24:54 Conclusion
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Waiting for the 20,000 hour build as Ben individually sets the router shavings into resin to recreate the original grain pattern
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Honestly I am not sure I would ever be capable of taking responsibility for something so valuable. Ben has always walked the tightrope of confidence and lunacy which is why I admire him so much.
I would probably be to nervous handling that piece of wood. Even more to put a saw or router in it.
22 is a bit of
End of the day it's just a piece of wood. What can you do with it. He's very capable
I watch a lot of guitar channels. Hes the only one who ever responded
Buyer certainly has more money than they can deal with, don't think they mind the cost.
I could never have routed that out. I would have cut it out and glued a bottom on the same as the top and kept all the wood from the middle for something else.
Cut out the body shape, slice two thin layers off the top and bottom, cut out the middle and carefully glue it back together.
@@naphackDT Resaw the front off. CNC the outline of the sides with a ¼" bit. not quite all the way through. resaw the back off. take the leftover inside and resaw it up and make guitars that don't cost quite as much with kauri just for the top.
Use a pin-bit on the CNC to remove any backplates, then use the cutout piece as the cover so that the grain matches everywhere.
Great idea!
Amazing. I love the idea of building a fundraiser guitar for charity from the valuable shavings! You have nerves of steel and a heart of gold.
i'm guessing the charity isn't save the trees XD
@@hyperlovesyou normal trees arent 42,000 years old. So theres that
@@donniebrookins6215 well not anymore i suppose
@@hyperlovesyou I personally think that'd be brilliant! Plant some trees. Or better yet, grassland restoration, since we're gettin' rid of trees here. 🤔
@@donniebrookins6215 Well the tree itself was never 42k years old, the log is. The tree was 1700 or so years old before it fell and was preserved in the swamp.
I remember my first guitar 42, 231 years ago. It was so much different back then. Wood was plentiful and made otherworldly sounds. 😎
You should have used a plug cutter first. You could have created a ton of beautiful plugs and dowels and then routed what was left!
Once the guitar is painted black and the Floyd Rose is installed, this is going to be a Metal shredder! I'm worried about the feedback, though. Maybe you could take the sawdust, mix it with some of that saw dust, and then fill it back in the cavity.
Hi Ben I’m not a guitar builder I’m a retired goldsmith with 50 plus years under my belt. Don’t forget you also have off cuts of Kauri you can use as well. You could thinly slice it to make lattice work filling with the dust or cut blocks. The options are endless and exciting!! I love your channel by the way.
Thank you, adn what great ideas!
That's actually a great idea! Love it!
I have never seen anything like this way of building a guitar Ben and love the concept of matching the grain all the way around , the grain and figuring on that wood is amazing cant wait for the finished product
Really looking forward to seeing the final version - and the charity sawdust guitar.
Loving the RUclips content from Crimson guitars. Nice to see a builder making something different and doing it with passion. Keep up the good work.
Heart stopping. I want to cry. I am building my first electric guitar from a slab of ancient Huon pine. It was a given to me after being left outside in a heap mixed with old greasy car parts so a lot of it was destroyed. I have been sitting on it for two years but finally decided that I had better do something with it.I have made the best use of what was salvageable but the amount of necessary waste has hurt me to the soul. Ian am using as much of the off cuts as I can, it will have a tailpiece and I’m going to make use it for the machine heads buttons as well. This is great Ben. I am on the edge of my seat.
"This is the definition of overkill." Ben, overkill is STANDARD PROCEDURE! Go big or go home! Loving the look so far.
Love New Zealand Kauri.
When I started my pattern making apprenticeship in New Zealand (1970's) we would make our master patterns from it, very stable knot free timber lovely to work.
Our timber rack had a section of secondhand Kauri, old boat masts, bits of keel, table tops etc, even then you could not cut the tree's down anymore.
I still have and play the LH Strat style guitar I made using a single piece of Kauri for the body, it has front loading pickups (no pick guard), a carved in input socket and a few ergonomic tweaks round the neck joint and a home made from brass Tele inspired bridge.
Finish on the body is shellac, really brings out the golden colour of the wood, and it wears nicely.
I haven't seen the swamp variety before , very nice.
I can tell my bit of timber was from an enormous old tree, growth rings are about 1.5mm apart on average with a barely perceptible curve in the end grain.
Its my prize possession.
It looks very nice as it always do when Ben does things. And I think the idea of using the shavings and dust to make a guitar for fund raising is great. Putting value back into something that lost it.
And of course, the f-hole. The back carving was so nice and as you said made all the difference in appearance. A very nice detail.
A joy to watch. I have to admit to have been bricking it when Ben was cutting the guitar shape on that bandsaw - so much equity at stake. I am loving this build.
Yeah that part was insane.
I would advise a lining strip along the inside of the "sides", not for the top, but to reinforce the short grain.
cheers from Texas!
i always like when a builder makes something similar to a classic brand, but updates and customization make it better! Rock on Ben!
peace
Ben this is going to be fantastic! Just keep looking at the vision of the finished guitar
Absolutely brilliant! To use such a rare stock would initially come off as decadent, but then to use what many would just call waste, and create yet another work of art for which the proceeds are to go to an important and deserving charity... an inspired challenge for you, the master artist, and a tribute to the vision of your client. Again, well done, Ben!
Beautiful even in early stage of the build Can't wait to see the result after the finish applied !
This build is driving me crazy, I know it's what the Customer wants but OMG I think they'll come to regret it!
13:48 "First I just need to find a quiet space just to breathe." Totally with you there Ben!
Is there actually a better Sunday morning than watching this with a strong real coffee in hand 👍🏻😁. One question I have is balance on the finished guitar so it’s not neck heavy given the softness of the wood. 🤔
This is a wonderful build! I can wait to see that wood finished... hopefully with a oil varnish 🙂
I have as well an advice:
Considering the wood is quite soft... I will say it is a good idea to protect the interior of the guitar with minerals like we do on violins.
You can use Rubio mineral ground (not sponsored but I find it a quite good mixt) with potassium silicat. Or even Casein, same with potassium silicat.
It will "crisp" the wood little bit, given (I believe) a better sound... and protected against humidity exchanges and why not ...wood worms.
I'm glad the most expensive shavings in the world will be used for a good cause. I've been racking my brain to come up with another way of achieving a hollow body, but short of the back & sides having a glue joint between them I got nowhere.
I love the attention to detail in the bevelled edge to the f-hole!
I’m most excited about this build I have been in a long time!
True art work right here. Keep up the great work. It's very entertaining to watch and I pick up some good woodworking ideas along the way (not instrument related).
Awesome, thank you!
Ben, I wait for your videos as when I was a kid did for my favorite TV show (The A Team, in my case), you are an inspiration, thanks from Argentina!
B.A. Baracus "I ain't getting in no bench plane, fool"
You should turn the off cuts into 2 wooden ball bracelets. 1 for yourself and one for me for coming up with the idea. All hand crafted by yourself of course and documented on a video.
It’s tempting to consider using this template system, although I would need it in my own custom body shape. But I’m fairly certain CNC makes more sense for me. You made the routing look very easy but if I’ve learned anything this year it’s that routing large cavities is a step I’d rather avoid.
I've been waiting all week for this video and I get to watch it while rebuilding bikes in the bike shop...today is a good day 👌🤘
I agree with the client's idea of resin and wood shavings for an interesting guitar. Maybe add some copper leaf or glitter to create dimension to it.
I make coasters with the left over cuts and shavings. Pretty simple and can look great.
Dayum, I can't begin to imagine what our ancestors were doing 42 thousand years ago when that tree was still in it's youth. Amazing stuff!
Ben, I'm not a guitar builder but find your YT channel both creative and entertaining. I do play a bit of guitar so have great admiration of fine players but also in the craftsmanship of a luthier. Anyway just thought I would mention it. Keep up the builds and humour. S
Thank you so much!
Can' t wait to see the final result....!
There had to be a way to do this using a separate top and back that would have preserved a fair chunk of the middle. Kind of distressed that you didn't insist on it.
Beginners have so much choice these days. 42,000 years ago, all we had were Hondo II Les Pauls and Marlin Strats.
Looking great. Maybe for the rear access panels. Cut them out (carefully) and use the same black binding around the edges?
Amazing, so looking forward to the next video!😊
Thank you.
Just WOW! As always, impressive!!
Loving this build! The Kouri looks surprisingly soft, you must have nerves of steel to finesse that f-hole. Looking forward to the next instalment…
Thank you very much! This episode had many 'cry in the corner' moments...
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars dont know why. You are awesome. Love your videos
Can't wait to see the final product! I also love the idea of using the dust in a resin guitar. I think that is a must sir.
BTW, I've sent several emails over the last week to Crimson regarding an order I had placed with no response. Would appreciate it if you could have them get back to me.
I'm putting an Yngwie and Brian May poster in
Something very special in the making !
If I didn’t know he made guitars and I heard him say “I make axes” I’d assume actual axes 😂😂 your videos are so satisfying to watch
Looking forward to this build.
Ben that’s just given me an idea! Hog out the central section like you did here, then take all the shavings, with resin and put back in to make the top. Granted maybe not on expensive wood, but that’s gotta be a cool look right? I’m sure it’s been done before, everything usually has.
Lol, just noticed the thumbnail of the vid, just like that !
dye the shavings and use them that way and it will look even cooler. Good idea.
Crickettbat guitarrrrrrrr
Impressive most would have done that in a different manner ,, Quality is what I see from you Sir,,, Thanks Scotty in Alabama 😎.
The continuous ripple of figuring all the way round is going to look exquisite
(unless you have a squirrel moment and paint the whole thing in graphite lol)
The owner of the wood is a smart guy. Cast the shavings and auction it off to help children.
Sawdust and resin sounds amazing. Maybe in a superstrat style?
Fair play that takes some balls - both from yourself and the guy who commissioned it haha.
You could have routed the material in strips and broke them out sideways, and then routed away the waste. The strips you removed from the middle could have been cut down into gorgeous binding !
Very excited about this one
Looking good. I suppose you could have used bent sides to save some of the wood.
The idea to create a resin guitar is brilliant.
Ben as someone who teaches us to be better wood workers you should be setting an example with proper PPE. A dust mask during the routing.. Who knows whats in that ancient wood.
Good point.. but I was hoping some ice age super powers.. didn't happen 😕
Love the concept and the look of the wood, but I hesitate about the hollow Jazzmaster shape, for me the body type really need heavy contours to work, and the "original" fender semi look very slabby, will have to see if any of the local Guitarshops have one on display to see if it looks better IRL.... 🤔
Sir Ben. Maybe you should have made Twins 🎸🎸Guitars because you need One for the Vintage Guitar Store. My hat goes off to You Sir Ben. What a Master Guitar Builder you ARE. 👍🏻
That would be cool, thank you!
Stunning peice in the making. You did ask what we would like to see next, I have a unique challenge that I call the eastwing challenge.
I would drop dead from the nerves of using such rare and expensive wood.
I have slowly got used to the stress, no days I know that pretty much any mistake can be recovered with a bit of thought and luck
Anyone else try and blow the dust off when Ben was bevelling the F hole??🤣😂
Man surely you could cut the access panels out and use put a black bead you're gonna use on the front to go around the panels either on the panel or the body. Then you keep more of that beautiful grain
Enjoyed seeing it come together, as for the shavings, you could always take a mold from one of your necks and make an epoxy impregnated / shavings, neck from it for the next build.
That's a great idea!
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars also, wondering how it would have looked if you had finessed the f hole the other way around with the bevel on top.
@@lotuselanplus2s25:38
Next, before gluing the top on, fine sand and apply a finish on the inside where it will be seen through the F hole. No doubt that's already part of your plan.
The idea of the top with a veneered edge is so cool. Couldn’t the back been made the same way? Then the bulk of the block could have been sawed out and been put to use. That is if there isn’t going to be any comfort carves made at the back of the body…
Absolutely killer Ben. Wondering about the client's opinion of the wormholes...
they are part of the history of the wood, I'll fill them all in the next few videos but it is what it is..
Could have left some strategically placed extra material to accommodate the screws for the strap buttons. Or do you have other plans for them?
Ben, saw some one trying 'hacks' used a drinking straw cut at about 45 to clean up glue in corners .. the waste glue goes int o the straw.
Hope this sounds as pretty as it looks! Now let’s see if you can sell one of these £10k bodies to a non tone wood believer!😊 that would make an interesting video to see if they’d be willing to pay the extra and change their mind set!
Rep from New Zealand! Surprised to see Kauri so far from NZ
So how utterly nerve wracking was routing out that body, Ben? What were you listening to to steel your resolve on that first plunge of the router? This looks to be an absolutely amazing build and instrument and I'm going to try and enjoy every second of it!! Cheers from Canada - Dave
Ben, I have another question, since the neck wood is so soft also; Are you going to put carbon fiber strengthening bars in the neck ??
Id love nothing more than to build myself a guitar like you do but my near blind self doesnt stand a chance haha, love watching you work man, keep it up!
Try it with a crickettbat, good luck
Blind guy built my hexagonal picnic table. Anything's possible.
Is there a way to press those shavings into a particleboard/OSB kind of thing? Use that as a top
P.S. Would you ever consider making a video to show how to make a template of any guitar? I would love to know how to make a template of several (all the same kind) of my guitars.
Looking good
I wonder, if you cut a veneer off the back instead of hogging out the center, routed around the template and were left with another smaller blank, could you make progressively smaller guitars until they are so small you couldn't play them anymore?
Given the sound hole and port arrangement is intrinsic to the effective workings of a acoustasonic, how do you intend to replicate that aspect of the original design using f hole instead?
Hi Ben why dident you take a slice of the back and then jigsaw the senter of the thick slab.then you could of used the centre for a difrent project.
Are you binding the F hole to match the top's outline? . I can see many future videos featuring tools with handles made from the offcuts 😁
I haven't yet but am seriously tempted to do do matching the black veneer strip around the top
its going to be beautiful!
i am doing a build from scratch out of what ever wood i have lying around yeah this was meant to be and up yours to the person that cut a bit of pallet and got 3rd in the flower show i thought i know better omg its a headache and i am glad it is fretless as i think i would be very violent !
I did the same thing, but I made mine out of 1/2" thick plexi so I could see what I was cutting....
i wish i had access to a shop like this!
Dam nice work, thanks for that.
You should be snortin' them wood chips! Old ass wood chips in your blood stream? Nice. Love it
Looks like a big parts tray, not to mention an expensive one!😁
With just some of the shavings you could make clear keyrings and sell them for charity and still have enough for anything else. Similarly with any offcuts, you could cut them really thin and add a Crimson logo to them and sell them.
Then if you have spare spare sawdust and resin after the guitar you could make a few keyrings. With Crimson logo obvs. Or Ben's laughing face laser etched on one side. Or both. More money for the charidee.
Sawdust resin body sounds great
I agree
See here, Crowe. Why not build it like an ES-335? Less chips, more solid planks. Some steam required.
GDay Ben, I'm in Tasmania, Australia and would be happy to help you source some Huon Pine Birdseye if you're interested. As a side note, would be one of the nicest smelling guitars.
This guitar is going to look so amazing. Cannot wait to see the finished instrument!
Such craftsmanship!
Why did you not make a separate back, similar to the top, cut out the middle, leaving the narrow sides and saving a sizable chunk of wood for another project?
How wide is the outline going to be? I ask because the top currently fits inside the template for the lip that it is supposed to sit on.
I retract my question, it was a hangover from the last video but it is answered in this one at 11:19.
The top is designed to sit inside that lip with the grain matching nicely
I have an old hollow body teisco ep-8t it's thin like an electric guitar shaped like an es 335 but completely hollow like an acoustic with just a small piece of bracing under the saddles of the bigsby style vibrato I've always liked the construction method but of course being a teisco it has some natural flaws in its design like for instance the body wood is actually so thin and lacks bracing to the point that the body actually bends forward allowing the neck to tilt forward giving the guitar horrible action I've been wanting to either repair it or make a clone of it with slightly thicker and more dense wood and convert all the parts over seeing you doing this really makes me think making a copy thicker and better would probably be the way to go
I hope I am not too late here, but you mention having to rout out rear access , and I implore you to not hog out a massive hole in that back. Drill a pin hole with the weeniest drill bit you have and cut the cover with a jeweller's saw so you have seemless covers.
Also, at 15:30 - Excuse me but that is a goddamn TIE Fighter noise!
Would it be possible to change the order of the videos in the playlist? Currently they play from most recent to the oldest.