Really well edited review and I appreciate you tried to give as much credit to the mini pc as you could. The pros and cons section was very useful to recap and I like you showed a decent teardown and a variety of games. You spared no effort on your video! A 2018 CPU in 2024 that cannot do 4k 60hz is in a really difficult spot asking for $350 in the USA. I agree there is a lot of competition around $200-400 that are arguably better.
Thanks for your positive feedback 😊 Yes, we're trying to bring up our level... Wonder if we'll ever get to the same level as ETA prime? 🤔 I guess if this was say 250-300, you didn't need 4k, and needed a pc for an arcade cab with a crt monitor in it- then it would be ideal.
I was not expecting to see such a CPU in a new system. This CPU is faster than my i7-4710HQ by about 30% based on the Geekbench CPU score and about 4+ times in the OpenCL score, but I still wouldn't buy one in 2024. At least not for this price. Funnily enough the OpenCL score is about 45% of my GTX860M. Cinebench too is much higher of this one, but 330+ dollars (and who knows how much Euros) is just asking too much for such an old CPU based system. Perhaps 1/4 of the price yes. The second NVME slot is very good, as is the SATA connection and room for a 2.5 inch drive. I do wonder how well this would perform in video editing with VEGAS in particular. It might be worth getting, for the right price. But over 300 euros..no.
It needs to be under £$€250 for it to have any real competitive value. I like that it can support both additional SATA and M.2 drives. The DDR3 RAM would be a real killer, especially as the manufacturer states something different, so trust may be an issue.
Bang on re: trust issues. Will definitely be checking USB ports more thoroughly like we did here in the future. TBH I think it's more difficult to see this as a good deal at the moment, as the RRP price starts off FAR too high. If it started at $400 and was on sale at say $300- it might be perfectly priced. At $250, then YES! Great deal! (depending on use case, obviously) Some things shouldn't really be overlooked, like the NVME, quiet, cool, has a VGA port, and (as you mentioned) the drive options.
Ironically, if they'd used an even older chip, like a z80a, it might have had a market for retro nerds. This is double the price of an N100 but can't really do much more. There must be a mountain of these processors somewhere in China. Lots of manufacturers are selling them still, and all at high prices. Intel must have really screwed the OEMs 6 years ago for them to still have them on the market.
Or there might be a stack of mini pcs that didn't sell? Unsure but all this could have been a possibility due to the slowdown with shipping and sales due to the whole COVID thing.
@@TeamPandory So it's not actually the Great Wall of China you can see from space but the stack of unsold, outdated mini PCs that were too old even to be sold during the great Amazon shop of 20/21?
Excellent vid as always Tim, neat little PC but as all have said, overpriced, plus not actually displaying the true content of the internals is a tad unforgivable. An unrelated question tho, have you ever bench marked or just noticed if Batocera / Retroarch out performs over the PC version in FPS stakes.I've just stuck it on an SSD but not added any high usage stuff like PS3 as yet..Anyway, have fun, Paul..
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Really well edited review and I appreciate you tried to give as much credit to the mini pc as you could. The pros and cons section was very useful to recap and I like you showed a decent teardown and a variety of games. You spared no effort on your video!
A 2018 CPU in 2024 that cannot do 4k 60hz is in a really difficult spot asking for $350 in the USA. I agree there is a lot of competition around $200-400 that are arguably better.
Thanks for your positive feedback 😊 Yes, we're trying to bring up our level... Wonder if we'll ever get to the same level as ETA prime? 🤔
I guess if this was say 250-300, you didn't need 4k, and needed a pc for an arcade cab with a crt monitor in it- then it would be ideal.
To expensive, 330 EUR for this, no way
I was not expecting to see such a CPU in a new system.
This CPU is faster than my i7-4710HQ by about 30% based on the Geekbench CPU score and about 4+ times in the OpenCL score, but I still wouldn't buy one in 2024. At least not for this price.
Funnily enough the OpenCL score is about 45% of my GTX860M.
Cinebench too is much higher of this one, but 330+ dollars (and who knows how much Euros) is just asking too much for such an old CPU based system. Perhaps 1/4 of the price yes.
The second NVME slot is very good, as is the SATA connection and room for a 2.5 inch drive.
I do wonder how well this would perform in video editing with VEGAS in particular. It might be worth getting, for the right price. But over 300 euros..no.
Video editing would work, but you'd be making 1080p, and waiting around a while for it to render.
Euros... The mighty boosh. 😂
What was that "Hello" during the Halo footage? :D
Not a clue. Are you hearing things? 😂
Seriously... Nice catch. Didn't think anyone would hear it tbh.
VGA? What year is it? (I know it has some use but really isn't there adapters? and most mini's don't have that)
You’re hotter than expected boss
67 degrees isn't that bad 😂
It needs to be under £$€250 for it to have any real competitive value. I like that it can support both additional SATA and M.2 drives. The DDR3 RAM would be a real killer, especially as the manufacturer states something different, so trust may be an issue.
Bang on re: trust issues. Will definitely be checking USB ports more thoroughly like we did here in the future.
TBH I think it's more difficult to see this as a good deal at the moment, as the RRP price starts off FAR too high.
If it started at $400 and was on sale at say $300- it might be perfectly priced. At $250, then YES! Great deal! (depending on use case, obviously)
Some things shouldn't really be overlooked, like the NVME, quiet, cool, has a VGA port, and (as you mentioned) the drive options.
Ironically, if they'd used an even older chip, like a z80a, it might have had a market for retro nerds. This is double the price of an N100 but can't really do much more.
There must be a mountain of these processors somewhere in China. Lots of manufacturers are selling them still, and all at high prices. Intel must have really screwed the OEMs 6 years ago for them to still have them on the market.
Or there might be a stack of mini pcs that didn't sell? Unsure but all this could have been a possibility due to the slowdown with shipping and sales due to the whole COVID thing.
@@TeamPandory So it's not actually the Great Wall of China you can see from space but the stack of unsold, outdated mini PCs that were too old even to be sold during the great Amazon shop of 20/21?
@@jabonorte so THAT'S what it was 😂
Excellent vid as always Tim, neat little PC but as all have said, overpriced, plus not actually displaying the true content of the internals is a tad unforgivable. An unrelated question tho, have you ever bench marked or just noticed if Batocera / Retroarch out performs over the PC version in FPS stakes.I've just stuck it on an SSD but not added any high usage stuff like PS3 as yet..Anyway, have fun, Paul..