Bill Nye on Abortion and Sex (REBUTTED)
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Trent's back and this time he takes on "Bill Nye the Science Guy's" rather unscientific views on human life and sexuality.
Original videos:
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I'm a black male who is now pro life. Nye's ad hominem is ridiculous.
Nothing to do with race, every human is against abortion.
@@lordofhostsappreciator3075 Not every human is against abortion sadly in the black community is pretty high statistically compared to other races.
@@rooforlife I was gonna point that out too.
I'd also like to point out how certain groups will cry out how XYZ lives matter, but by the numbers, the same group will commit the most abortions.
You'd have to be a transgender lesbian for them to care about your opinion.
Why does race matter ?
Trent sounds more like a scientist than Bill.
Because he is. Masters degree in bioethics is more impressive than Bill
I thought bill had an mechanical engineering degree - I guess its still is consider a bachelors of science degree - his scientist role was actually something he made up for a bit as he was perusing standup comedy
@@frankharet8865 Exactly. And if a Bachelors of Science degree makes him a scientist, then I would like the present my Bachelor of Science degree in History. ... And you're right, he's an entertainer. The scientist thing is just a bit. A bit that apparently he's started to believe. Awkward for him.
He is more of a scientist than Bill for simply being alive
A praying mantis sounds more like a scientist than Bill.
A brown skinned pro-lifer from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳. You can be sure pro-lifers come in all colours, shapes and sizes. Missed your videos Mr Trent Horn... Keep them coming 👍
I'm of mostly European and American Indian Heritage, but I have some distant ancestry from India, so yeah there's that. People always want to tie it to racist white people. White people are not the only people that are pro-life, in fact I know more than one African-born Catholic priest, that has spoken out against abortion.
yeah, tons of pro-lifers in the "non-white" world. people assume because most african AMERICANS vote democrat that being non-white must mean you're pro-choice. most democrats are white, just like most republicans are white. it boggles the mind that someone could try to turn it into a racial issue. then again there is the argument that poor people "need" abortion the most and the unpleasant history of the eugenics movement which seemed to place a special emphasis on poor "people of color" (as ones who "needed" their populations reduced). that doesn't mean you're automatically a racist if you're "pro-choice" but there's that. the idea that "old white men can't tell me what to do" is silly. the democrats in government who pass pro-abortion laws are largely "old white men" too, by simple matter of statistics. a law is either just or it isn't, regardless of the race, color, gender, or whatever of the person who proposed, supported or passed it. we don't want to live in a society where we have a different set of laws for each group of people, do we? and now we have a society where we can't even agree on where those categories begin and end! so no more laws? and really it's the genetic fallacy, because a pro-choice democrat wouldn't suddenly become pro-life if the law was proposed by a woman of color, or even by another democrat, they would simply imply that person was a traitor or crazy.
Honestly the abortion video from Bill Nye is one of the cringiest things I’ve ever seen. It’s mind boggling.
@roasted pancakes this is what we call a "self-referentially incoherent argument". It proves itself wrong.
That's saying a lot because Nye is often a cringe-master.
Staycie Kirkendall ditto
@@jonathanfairchild I dont think the argument that men shouldn't give an opinion on abortion is incoherent if he were to make a 10sec video and just say that and perhaps that he dosn't have an opinion on abortion. It remains a terrible and dumb argument one could say civilians shouldnt tell soldier what to do in combat. If he wanted to go on that argument he would have said it then said here's Julia to do the rest of the video. But every other argument he makes after that statement, and every argument he made before would be rendered incoherent by that statement.
Nye is a mechanical engineer turned comedian, so he's as much an expert on biology as Neil Degrasse Tyson is an expert on history or Richard Dawkins is an expert on theology.
Aaah...a mechanical engineer pretending to be a scientist pretending to be a philosopher.
But he has also claimed Philosophy is useless but uses bad philosophy as a substitute for science.
@@BenjaminWirtzAll sciences come from philosophy
Ooh! This is a good one! Bill Nye vs. science.
Bill Nye the brain dead guy.
Bill "I want to imprison climate deniers'" Nye
😂😂😂😂😂
As an Eastern Orthodox, Trent Horn is my favorite Catholic. You da man, Trent!
u r uh...can you point me towards catholic dogma or doctrine that supports that claim?
@@mayorofbasedville7680 I'm catholic mate no need to take note of that previous comment.
Just keep on educating yourself.
Liam Blumeris thanks brother!
Patrick Mosher May God, in His great Wisdom, bring us into full communion with each other again one day!
John Obeid amen brother!!!
I just finished your book “Why We’re Catholic!” You the man Trent!
16:05
"...especially if she doesn't like the guy...."
-- who she just had sex with. . . .[?]
THIS is why mechanical engineers like our Billy here should stick to inventing, building, and maintaining doo-dads and ghizmos, the values and needs for which are often questionable, for start.
Thanks Trent. This one was almost too easy for you. He falls hard for the most basic fallacies and falsehoods.
How on earth can somebody be such a cool guy like Trent??? You're great.
I’m wondering if Bill prepared some sort of script for this video. Did they just tell him to talk about abortion for 4 minutes, whatever comes to his mind? There is no logical train of thought to speak of. Can’t believe they published this video and thought it was somehow good.
they're literally stupid and know that society is saturated with brainwashed people who will eat their propaganda right up
I can't believe my elementary school teachers used to make me watch this hack.
LOL
He wasn't always a hack. He used to do some good, once.
26:00 "I am very uncomfortable right now." Haha, same here. I'm not Catholic, but I like Trent Horn. He's a very competent apologist. Also, Bill Nye brought up the Bible in his defence of abortion. We've got to get beyond this idea that abortion is bad because "the Bible says so." No pro life apologist that I'm aware of makes this claim. I wonder if it's just something pro-choicers say so that they won't have to answer real pro life arguments.
Wouldn't surprise me, honestly.
He’s the best. He makes great arguments.
When we "unscientific" religious people are fully logical and scientific, and "Science guys" are entirely illogical and just slap the label of "science" onto political propaganda.
Bill Nye is a textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger effect
What's crazy to me is that the chromosome part from the old Bill Nye show was actually removed years later! YIKES!!
I believe that Peter Singer also approves of infanticide, which does make him more consistent than most "pro-choice" people. Many arguments for abortion also apply to infanticide.
I have more respect for consistent Pro-Choicers or Atheists.
Doesn't infanticide happen only *AFTER* birth? How do abortion arguments apply to infanticide when it involves both the woman and her womb? Damn, pro-lifers are morons.
@@Arena1999 It's the logic used to kill the unborn can be consistent with killing infants. The only morons are the indoctrinated pro-choicers who don't realize this.
@Randy A No one is *pro-abortion*. The fact _you people_ equate allowing women to choose which act is responsible to being in favor of abortion disqualifies you from adult conversation regarding this debate.
We don't just based human value on functional properties. And the debate is much deeper than rather or not the fetus has as much value as any human in any stage. We already know it varies, which is why some argue that it needs limits and oppose late-term abortion.
I don't agree with Peter Singer. Many people also disagree with his justification of infanticide because the argument from the Pro-choice is always what the woman thinks is the best course, not to validate the termination of a baby.
@@tripkings547 Maybe because the logic doesn't even make sense to begin with. I argued with one who applied that to their rationale and they failed to convince me. Let's see you do better.
Glad you’re “back in the saddle” 😊. Great call outs here. It makes me sad that people are actually, as Bill said he is, “frustrated by” people defending life. May God have mercy...
I know you mainly make Catholic videos but I’m a non-denom who really enjoys videos like these, bill nye is ridiculous, thanks for debunking him.
I used to love Bill Nye as a kid. And I am so disappointed that he, as someone who used to entertain kids, has now taken such a pernicious political stance and voice. Maybe he always did but was more subtle. But it is very polarizing and unfair to his original purpose. I especially hate seeing him swearing and making crude jokes. Those who entertain children should be upstanding citizens who refrain from radical politics, vulgarity, and other such things.
"you can't tell someone what to do"
What the hell do you think A LAW is Bill?
Seriously, this is about the weakest collection of pro abortion arguments I've heard
so sad it's coming from a childhood icon of mine
This is such a great video, Mr. Horn! I never fail to learn something new from you haha!
I had no idea Facebook had these options and I had no idea that it was this non-sensical. What on earth is two-spirit?
That's what I want to know...
The real kicker is that one has to accept that Nye prepared these statements. He put thought, and presumably research, into what he's saying here, not speaking off the cuff like many who speak similarly as he does in his video.
Great video as always!!! thank you so much Trent. I'll be waiting for that video on Sam Harris book tho... :)
I’m a mechanical engineer. Bill Nye has a mechanical engineering degree, but that does not make him an engineer. He is really an entertainer (I honestly though he was kind of lame even when I was ten).
Isn’t Bill Nye pro contraception? I think if he keeps telling people that it takes a woman an average of two hundred ovulation (a little over fifteen years) cycles to get a verifiable pregnancy, that may not bode well for his alternate agenda.
If any pro-life advocates here would like an in-depth scientific explanation of the fertilization process and when a cell becomes a human, Dr. Maureen Condic’s free white paper (online) When Does Human Life Begin? is unbeatable.
You, sir, are a treasure. I’ve listened to you for years on CA Live and your clear, calm explanations always expose the truth in a way that is truly refreshing. You’re making points that others have for decades before you, but you do it in a sentence rather than an academic treatise. You are exactly what today’s Twitter-formed minds need. Thank you for your work.
I really hate to do this Trent, but I just can't watch the rest of this video. Bill Nye's argument is just so cringe, I just can't bear the hear the rest of the video.
Took me a couple of water breaks to get through it too. Nye's arguments are so so bad.
even if he was a scientist, why would I care about what a scientist has to say about morality, it's not their domain. The sooner we understand the realm of the physical cannot give us anything but shadows of the moral realm. It's the study of the physical, not the study of what the physical "means".
Thank you Trent for fighting for the unborn. Great to have you on the side of our Catholic faith.
Excellent! Just discovered you here. Thanks for the hint about the podcasts, too. I’m feasting on good, solid Catholic instruction right now. Thanks for your work!
So glad to see your videos back!
Can you please do a video/podcast on Eastern Orthodoxy; specifically pertaining to the arguments made by Jay Dyer etc. Thanks. Keep up the great work!
I miss Bill Nye silent appearances on Back To The Future cartoons. Because were silent. 😅 Great video, as always
Wow, great arguments. Glad I saw this video in my list of suggested videos on RUclips tonight. Looking forward to you taking on other topics.
Love your rebuttals. Keep it up trent👌🏻
Please respond to more anti-Catholic videos!
Trent, you're the man! Keep it up.
Finally! Thank You for your work Mr Horn!
Bill Nye DESTROYED with science and logic
Fantastic Trent! What a phenomenal slam dunk.
Hi Trent. Thanks for a great rebuttal - although the opposition was laughable :) I think I may a few points to improve on your arguments - you'll be the judge!
First I noticed Nye's argument about the "mortality rate". I don't think that was really Nye's argument - I think Nye tried to say "look - don't you intuitively agree with me that those fertilized eggs aren't really human - we don't usually think about them like that, do we?". So he was arguing more along the lines of "emotion/intuition". I think the whole of Nye's argument revolved around "it just seems right", "it just seems wrong". I say this because I know you want to represent the other parties as accurate as possible.
The other point is about how to explain there are only two sexes. I think if you introduce the idea (which you almost did) of a *third* ingredient necessary to make a zygote - then it will be abundantly clear that no matter how many combinations of XXY and YYXX, it doesn't constitute a new sex. The idea of two sexes rests upon the biological fact that a zygote needs only *two* things to come into existence. Therefore, we can be more than willing to admit some people have an indeterminate sex, but that is of course not a new sex - it's simply an abnormality.
Wish you the very best!
Great video as always. I would love your take/review/critique of the Bible TV series, The Chosen.
wow I didn't know that some of the first feminists were against abortion.
I believe Bill Nye's first argument wasn't "If you have a high mortality rate, you aren't human". I believe it was something closer to "If you can't hold someone accountable for the many 'natural abortions' that occur regularly, how can you hold someone accountable for the intentional abortion". I still feel it is a poor argument but I wanted to share non the less.
Same argument. For example, just because ebola naturally occurs and kills many people, we don't permit people to deliberately spread ebola to others by saying, "Well it happens naturally anyway!"
That's the problem. Miscarriage (idk if what Nye says counts as miscarriage) is "natural," or at least unintentional. Abortion is both unnatural and intentional. It's like comparing cutting off life support to a patient who won't ever recover (with the family's permission) to a doctor stabbing the same patient in the neck. Same result, different motivations.
Fetus in Latin means child or baby. This whole, "It's just a fetus, not a person! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" Hey, idiots, Fetus means baby, therefore, it's a person. If you wanna say it isn't a person, at least use another term like clump of cells or something like that, but y'know, is it ok to kill anything in a defenseless state, whether it be a clump of cells or a baby animal. No, it isn't, we can't kill baby animals, then we can't kill babies. I like liberal logic sometimes but, if I can't kill a cow, they can't kill Fetuses.
It’s funny when the kind of people who say that they stand up for the vulnerable and marginalized end up being the same people who support the ability to kill the vulnerable and marginalized.
@@killianmiller6107 - Yes the people who say Black Lives Matter think that black lives don't matter when they are in the womb. The people who want more gun control are concerned about violent deaths, but they don't care about most terrible violent death there is: tearing a baby apart.
@@Klee99zeno They also support Euthanasia too , then in the same breath they lament youth suicide.
Maybe one of u can give me advice my sister was telling me my 27 yr old niece who already has 3 girls is 9 weeks pregnant and she is going to have a abortion I am thinking of messaging her something like congratulating her on the baby, what should I do, without being mean ( I don't think that would help her see what she is about to do) or should I just sit back and ignore it, don't get involved. What should I do.
I’m not experienced, but I imagine it would be best to try and talk to her face to face. Remind her of all her 3 beautiful children and tell her to imagine that she never had one of them, instead that she allowed him or her to be killed in the womb. How might her children feel when they learn that their mommy took away a fourth sibling, didn’t allow him/her to even be born; they might wonder, what if it was them? I don’t know her reasoning for considering an abortion, but I imagine it is because a fourth child might be too hard to handle. Remind her that if she is really not able to support another child, she can put it up for adoption; that killing him or her is not the only way, nor is it the right way of going about it. There are probably thousands of willing partners who would adopt the baby in an instant.
“Nonsense remains nonsense, even when talked by world-famous scientists.” In this case an engineer
Hi Trent, nice to see you back.
Nice video, even if i prefer when you tackle protestants.
I would like to ask you if you could at least look at some videos about a "14 may 2020 prophecy" made by, i think, 7th day adventists and maybe do a rebuttal/talk about the topic. Or maybe i should ask Jimmy Akin?
Thank you in advance and God bless!
Great rebuttal! It's really a shame, because I really want to like people who popularize science and STEM fields for what they do, but when they decide to step out of that and start making philosophical claims and calling them scientific they can lead so many people astray.
Trent, please keep this channel going, this channel will be gold if you keep it going God bless you!
I can't find that poll, could you link it to me?
The polls I have found seem to disagree.
I think arguments regarding human biology surrounding the binarys and biological lack of evidence for transgender people miss the point.
Regardless that circumstance, people have the liberty to seek being whatever gender they see themselves as, regardless of their biology.
And on the topic of naturality of sexual interaction, I also see it to be irrelevant, at least for legislation.
The focus should instead be by the lack of harm to others. Which means consent with full awareness of consequences for living beings (no children, no animals) and for nonliving things (people often have attractions to such things) they must be your own property (not someone elses things)
The ten minute Bible hr made a video on the Protestant reform, rebute that.
Yes yes that one
Pro-lifer right here! Much support from Detroit ✊🏻👍🏻
I'm comfortable calling these logical fallacies rather than simply irrelevant observations because Nye is trying to refute pro-life people here, and rather than respond to the actual arguments pro-life people makes, Nye relies on irrelevant statements to try and prove his stance on abortion.
lol I'm *still* looking for the 5,000 year old passage where it says "every time a man and woman have sexual intercourse, a baby is formed". Can anyone show me that passage?
Hopefully seeing this situation will convince you to move back to Phoenix. We miss your talks
The fact that so many of the genders are spell checked should tell you something
Greetings! Saw your debate with Cosmic and loved it. Would like to know if there is a way to get a copy of your apresentation (power point, pdf or something like that?) So that I may study your arguments. This debate really made me want to consider that there actually may be good arguments for God. Thanks for your time.
God bless you Trent.
Came here from Matt Fradd, love the video, keep up the good work!
Are your DMs open? I need help with Apologetic stuff
Exelente Trabajo Trent, sigue defendiendo la verdad, que Dios Bendiga tu familia y a ti
18:37 - fantastic point!
You go Trent!
Your takedown of the first video was much better then the second.
Bill Nye - The Four Year Mechanical Engineering Degree Guy - which by the year 2000 basically qualified him to build really cool bridges and transformers for model railroad layouts.
Oh, no, wait - he took a few classes from Carl Sagan.
Silly me, INSTANT EXPERT on EVERYTHING.
Trent, I hope you and your family are staying well. If you see this, would you consider doing a rebuttal to the last half of Allie Beth Stuckey’s Wednesday, May 20th video? She was speaking to followers of hers who believe a “false gospel” that works are involved at all in salvation. Her takeaway was to actually say Sacraments (she singled out Confession) are “wasting your time.” And you “missed Christianity. 😕 Thanks for considering, if you’re able! God bless.
You are my hero
Great job Trent!
You the man, Trent!
Finish the Pastor Mike rebuttal!! :D
Trent, you crushed him! Well done.
THESE ARE THE BEST
When it comes to the stereotypical "what of the girl and the guy had a fling one night and the girl got pregnant?" Well, how about pro-choice people actually encourage chastity and warn against the dangers of reckless sex instead of immediately jumping to defending the death of the unborn?
You are incredibly naieve
Thank you.
Great job!
"You can't tell people what to do," is telling people what to do.
You should post links to your research. I would like to check out the articles you referenced and it would make it easier.
Someone linked it in the comments. I can't remember the name but it's in here somewhere.
just listen to the article's title and author and then google it. I just did that for the Steve Jacobs' "why does life begin" article. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mkmarak I still think he should. On one of his videos about abortion he puts up a graph that planned parenthood apparently puts up on there website. I believe that they have the graph but I can't find it. So when were trying to refute things it's better if it's accessible rather than him just saying who it's by. Giving a site means there's likely a backup somewhere on the internet.
9:35 evidently he's talking to his reflection here in the camera glass. /:)
Yeeeeaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!
20:38 - One has to wonder if Dawkins was one of the biologists polled.
Trent I never saw you pausing the video, so many times 😂😂
I wish I found this channel sooner
I think he took the Monty Python song "Every Sperm is Sacred" as fact
He kept saying it was unscientific and was due to a lack of understanding of science, and then proceeded to give an opinion not based on science. What.
In the wise words of Jimmy Akin, "fashion matters."
You weren't very clear on why we shouldn't tell women what to do. (Which is obversely sexist towards men) What do you say about that arguement?
How are you Trent?
A little tired from all of this, but blessed!
Brother .. regarding Luke 11:50-51 did Jesus really refer to the closed canon of hebrew scripture!!??
Like other Christians stated?
But does not sound convincing to me.
What about you.
Nye's remarks at 13:00 are baffling.
The "Science Guy."
I interviewed an attorney on my channel over the rape exception
Yes good observation. Thank you Trent. Now I would consider Bill Nyyy. . . Bill naive. That should sound right.
I've been pregnant twice bro! That's every single time! Bill Nye strikes again!
Bill Nye the nutty guy....
I feel like Bill Nye was paid to say this...
Bill Nye used to be so cool😁. Now look at him🙄😬.
Bill Nye the pseudo science guy
This was too easy for Trent.
Bill Nye has seemed to have become so angry, mean(?), over the years.