ASROCK Z790 NOVA Motherboard
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- 14th gen intel cpus are here. So that means, so are the new motherboards. What features does this board have? Is it good? Join Wendell for this review!
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These AsRock boards have made massive strides. I want one of them!!
They came a long way, now they are on par with the big boys, but even better, they offer the same quality / Features for less $.
@@MarkusZulo exactly, or from another pov - they are on par but offering the prices you USED to pay a few years back.
Father, i crave lanes. Id love to have a consumer motherboard that offered more flexibility in how I use my lanes. Im so close to affording Sapphire Rapids due to employee discount but those damn mobos are still $800+
@4:15 the top slot you put a red line around is the 5.0 slot from the cpu (not chipset), the cpu-sourced 4.0 is below the x16 gpu slot, the other four are the chipsets.
also, I thought you tech reviewers were better as, you know, knowing what you are talking about - just what mobo is going to do the pcie 5.0 better than this? I say that, not because I own this, but because there are mobos as much as $600 that do exactly the same thing (unless AMD). How does one get almost half a mil subs and be this out of reality? Oh never mind, Linus had way more and he wouldn't know the truth if it was f@cking him in his a$$hole.
You're The Man, Wendell. I'm grateful that you take the time to look at ASRock motherboards, because most others seem to pass them over in favor of the 'flashier' brands (ASUS et al), and it can be difficult to find a decent overview/review for ASRock boards here on RUclips. Thank you. 👍🏼
Hi Wendel, Team,
While I do watch the presentations of these gamer motherboards what I would really like to see is more Sapphire Rapids or TR boards for HEDT. something especially targeted for users that need a lot of connectivity. I currently run 6x SATA and 3x NVMe because I can't connect more. I would also like dedicated GPU's for some of my VM's which is currently not possible. You really got me on the TR7000 press release but I'm still considering Sapphire Rapids just because it's the lowest entry price with so many PCIe & DDR5.
New TR won't come before november, so nothing for now.
for the intel side, nothing new since launch >it seems
🤔 @ 5:50
"If you're looking to run a Gen-5 m2, and not sacrifice any of your GPU lanes, you might want to upgrade to a more expensive motherboard"
Zero z790 motherboards, z690 motherboards, or any LGA-1700 Motherboards run Gen-5 m.2s without eating into the Gen-5 PCIe lanes for the GPU: from the cheapest to the +1,000, they all cut your PCIeX16_1 slot down to 8 to work if any m.2 is installed in the Gen-5 slot, no exceptions
More correctly for this:
If you want to run Gen-5 m.2s, and you don't want to eat into your GPU PCIe lanes, buy AM5
@@Justifier sorry, but just how long before 5.0 x8 is a limit on a gpu? The 4090 is not limited by 4.0 x16, and until what times does a gpu that costs a normal price equal the 4090 and then later exceed it? Be gone amd fanboy, we need comparisons that matter, like the best cous for gaming by those newwer 3d ones (well not that one chip, but the other two) - that matters, not stupid bs you are pushing, because you're a fanboy. Ew, pathetic and gross. begone with you and your kind!
yes, but the nova gives you a second through cpu slot that is gen-4. So if you don't care about gen 5 ssd, you can still go through cpu without sacrificing gpu bandwidth.
@@psyber84 my friend, that's not the point.
It's an anti-feature being marketed as a selling point
Look, here's how bad it is for perspective
If you look at the z790 Asus Apex Encore. If you use the Gen-5 m.2 slot *at all*, it just outright disables the PCIe_2 (x16 physical, x8 2nd slot under the traditional GPU slot)
That means you get to choose to either lose 4x lanes, or be forced to buy an aftermarket solution for Gen-5 storage with an AIC (if it fits)
That's the most refined answer for the issue on the final version of motherboards intended to be the best functional board on the market for these CPUs:
Disable it.
That's how egregious a position Intel is in right now with their PCIe allocation and design and quantity
It's an embarrassment. And if it's not fixed on the 15th generation I'll personally have a difficult time recommending Intel over AMD for those who actually need those lanes, which if you're a long term viewer of Level1 you're more likely than most to be in those shoes
I'd be interested in seeing leaks on the advancement/development of future motherboard technology.
Yes the layout is good, yes the layout works. Doesn't mean it can't be better. It's been the same format for 20 odd years.
Are the ...engineers in that specific field absolutely certain that the CPU, RAM, PCIe, and VRMs are in the most optimal positions? Why have they not updated the format to have the 24-pin, CPU pins, and GPU pins in/on the back of the board? Was air cooling factored into the parts' positioning? Especially with modern air cooling.
afaik standardization makes things to drag looong time before companies can feasible change any positions. like cpu closer to the IO shield area so it could get in fresh air straight and exit it from the top. kinda like what PSU does but in reverse.
Run multiple drives in a RAID-1 configuration. This way you get the read speed you need along with improved redundancy.
doubles the cost of storage.
adds latency
Disappointed that you don't get PCIe gen5 and an x16 at the same time, given that this motherboard is already well over $200
intel limitation, the 12-14th gen have 16 5.0 lanes and 4 4.0 lanes - so actually, the mobo makes permitted a gen 5 drive with the gpu getting 5.0 x8 is fine by me - keep in mind 4.0 x16 is the same or less bandwidth and a 4090 is fine with it, blowing everything else out of the water by far for its stupid pricing.
Hey, somebody made the GPU support I went on about. Only took like *checks watch* ... 5 years.
I would really appreciate if manufacturers would include covers for unused PCI slots.
My next build is going to be used for a lot of music so all I wanna know is about the audio, can it compare to the Godlike series from MSI?
Save the money and buy a discrete sound card. Speaking from experience the on board audio is adequate for gaming but audiophiles tend to lean towards discrete sound cards. Less buggy in my opinion.
@@TheAdam2877 I think you need to check the audio on the Godlike. Saves thousands in other devices.
What's up with the inconsistent volume levels between videos? I just went a few days back. Had to increase volume. Next video, my ears exploded. Next video, too quiet again. Repeating. Idk, but do you do volume normalization or "QC"? Feels kinda weird that a channel with good knowledge doesn't know how to make all videos have the same volume levels.. :/
Hi, which videos are you referring to? Inconsistent volume isn't something we want. ~ Editor Autumn
@@Level1Techsgetting the urls while testing on my home media system is hard, a concrete example is this video and the other z790, return of hedt, vs the "what is Intel doing for security", "14900k = .." videos. Just a small example. But I don't usually care or notice small differences, but the differences video to video here seem to vary a lot between videos and so much so that I had to say something. Audio quality is always good, just the levels that seem off somehow. If it matters, it's on a home cinema system. Didn't test them on headphones. So it might be my setup, but I just tested those I said, and it's very noticeable difference between them. Amazed by the fast reply and that you guys care! Glad to see!
Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, we don't have the ability to change the videos that have already been uploaded, but I'll be sure to communicate with the other editor so we can make sure we're exporting at similar levels. Cheers! ~Editor Autumn
@@Level1Techsthank you! Thats totally fine. But please test it first, so it's not only me! You guys are great! Keep up the great work!
problem for me too, but its crosses over many channels, and its been an issue for me for years at this point.
4x 1TB tcreate for under $200... why? You can get single 4TB for well under $200 now (e.g. lexar nm790).
RAID
Will these run the I9 14900k out of the box without a bios update? Any other boards ready out of the box?
At 3:09 you say 2 type C, I'm pretty sure there's only one on this board ;)
There are 1 USB C port on the I/0 in the back off the motherboard.
And 1 USB C Front connections via pc case cabel.
If your pc case have it, then 2 ports. 20 speed.
Was set on a Tachi Lite until I realised it was EATX, bummer.
I've found Z690 Taichi for a slightly lower price compared to Nova in my country. I know it's an older board but to my understanding unlike Nova, Taichi is in Asrock's high end line of products. Does that count for anything or should I just go for the newer model? If it's any help the hardware I intend to put in it is i5 14600K and RX 7900 XT.
Nova has been test and I think it does 7400 even better then the dark hero
is asRock the new assus ?
If I like this mobo for aesthetics and I want to throw say a 14600k in it but do not want to overclock... do I need to worry about too much power consumption or degradation of components out of the box or does the increased power availability with this mobo require you to tweak settings? I like the idea of low watt usage for a mid to high range pc using a 4070 gpu and i5. Sorry I'm new'ish to building a pc. Thank you.
I just purchased this board and I am excited to get the build started this weekend. After doing some research it seems like most people are suggesting undervolting. In the bios apparently the default settings on all of the boards is set to auto which can allow the board to pull a lot more power than it actually needs. If you like the boards aesthetics and it's features I would say go with it. However the Riptide is a more affordable version of this board. Tom's hardware selected this and the riptide as their choice for best features/bang for buck/ and performance.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO EXPANSION? Add a video card and a 10G NIC, and you have NO X16 PCIE slots left! Totally WEAK! What If I want to add a SAS array? Or a specialized sound card? Or SSD RAID card.. Or.. or.. I could never invest in this.
your gonna run into the same issue with competing boards that cost $120-200 more.
trying to be interested in Z790, but knowing its basically EoL and how 14th gen isn't really a 14th gen.
Intel 13gen+
ah yes, the "eol" talking point only fanboys mention. Like, hello, welcome to the world as it has been for decades - two, maybe three cpu arch/"arch" per socket with intel, most of the time - acting like THIS kills your interest is a BS talking point from AMD fanboys. Apparently having the best two gaming cpu's is not enough for the fanboys.
It appears that the Z790 Nova uses the 1920 buck VRM. Does and manufacturer use the 2011 Ćuk-buck2 VRM? It's cheaper, more efficient, and smaller.
lol wut
Is there a board that actually runs gen 5 m.2 without sacrificing GPU lanes
Apparently there is not.
AM5 boards do. Z790 boards are limited by intel's cpu lanes.
Can someone please tell me if those colors are permanent? Can't tell if they're lights, stickers, or paint.
It is @ 1:40 SO Helpful to see it in the plastic.... no.. no it isnt. It is not a new platform. I watched a guy build a system and use a year old motherboard not updated for the 14th gen and the chip went in just fine. 14th gen is more of the same ++++++ crap we always see from Intel. Same stuff - higher power - its old at this point.
Isn't USB3 front 19pin connector, not 30 pin?
did he say 400 amps? that don't sound right
Just got one of these. Seems to cap out around 6800 CL34 on my H16A Dual Rank kit. 7000 posts, but is unstable.
It says right on their website forbthat board…6800 1 dimm per channel / dual rank. So its doing what they say its suppose to. Thats a first
@@killerrf Every z790 board is rated for 6800 DR at max since the imc bin starts becoming an issue. Even the Apex is only rated for 6800 DR, but it can do 7200-7400 DR just fine.
This board isnt a 2 dimm only apex either. Dont expect as such.
@@killerrf in theory it should be able to clock higher with H24M (needs less voltage for 6800+) since this board seems to like having vddqtx and vdd2 within 20mv of vdimm. I could go above 1.4 and test, but I'd rather not cook my near golden vid sample.
Can you change the RGB on the LED-strip to the left of the processor socket or is it fixed?
Ok, first, I'm a tech idiot. So bear with me. But I am planning to build my first PC with rather high end parts. I was attracted to this mobo for its build quality to price ratio. But the 16 to 8 lane gpu sacrifice one must make in order to run substantially faster Gen 5 NVMe is frustrating. So here's the question: Do you spend the doe on, say, an RTX 4080 super, sacrifice 5% performance in an 8 lane PCIe slot to run the Gen 5 NVMe, or do you run slower Gen 4 NVMe to preserve the 16 lanes for the RTX 4080 super? I'm not a gamer (although I'd like to preserve my ability to run any game with great graphics, and I love ARGB and the 1950s-esq Sci Fi possible visuals available with software like Signal RGB. So I plan on major bling in my build.) I have a large 4 screen setup that mostly runs a sophisticated trading platform from Interactive Brokers where there is a ton a data crunching, lots of graphing charts, option chains, and lots of real time data. What would you do if you were 1) an old equity option market maker like me 2) a young enthusiastic gamer 3) a well rounded combination of the two? Would you just find a mobo that doesn't present this dilemma? Is there one you would recommend at a reasonable price? Thanks one and all! And don't forget to VOTE this November! (For Harris/Walz of course.)
BTW...When I have querried AI ChatGBT4 about this dilemma and asked the better course of action I got a mealy mouthed two-pronged fork-tongue answer that was of absolutely no use to me. It just goes to show that AI does not have the benefit of human EXPERIENCE to answer anything. And this is why AI (at least in its current iteration) is a big pile of overrated turds. In my old industry, as an options market maker floor trader at a stock exchange, the beginnings of AI have been around a very long time, going back to the 1990s. And today AI and algorithms govern all aspects of securities pricing, with humans like me having been long ago replaced. But option trading is highly mathematical, an easy reach for AI, where humans only have to oversee the process and occasionally intercede with EXPERIENCE when things go south.
Except there no WIFI-7 Routers or any other devices out?>maybe?. Wonder how much more it costs than 6E. I'd rather save that on these all ready 'Nvidia Style Priced' MB's
Wrong. WiFi 7 router hardware emerged last Fall. Lots of choices out there..
no bios button.... great.....
I'm waiting for the Ryzen 8000 release and hope to get some new AM5 motherboards with WI-FI 7 and I hope 10G Ethernet ports.
I just received z790 taichi, how much better is the nova?
Unless you need Thunderbolt built into the rear IO this is better. More M.2's and Wifi 7. The Taichi can only use 4 of the M.2's at the same time. The Nova can use all 6. Also the Nova can fit in more cases as it's ATX and the Taichi is E-ATX. I own a Taichi BTW.
@@v3zMediaThanks!
3:09 2?
bro what camera you use ?
and lens ?
9:00 He is too lazy to mount all the stand off and screws.
*cries in WiFi 5*
WiFi 7(802.11be) 46Gbps excite much?
cries in Wifi 6e
You need to power an motherboard to really show something useful, showcases like that is just a waste of time.
I PURCHASE THIS MOBO BUT FOR SOM EREASON IT WONT READ THE RAM STICKS LOCATED A1/A2 IT ONLY READS B1/B2 RAM SLOTS IM USING DDR5 5600MHZ.. NEED HELP
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really hate that chipset from intel where if you use a pcie5 ssd your video card goes to x8. i know its a small loss in gaming... but still its borderline false advertising from intel. especially with those crazy high motherboard prices
It's not an Intel chipset thing. It depends on the motherboard make/model. Learn the facts.
@@markdeckard7651 Can you link a motherboard that does not have this restriction? Every single z790 mb that I've seen does.
@@markdeckard7651 pcie lane on chipset diagram is "1x16pcie5 + 1x4 pcie 4 lane" or "2x8 pcie5 + 1x4 pcie4" for cpu. this is the intel diagram. tell me what motherboard bypasswed this?
@@markdeckard7651 its a chip limitation
there is no small loss - if a 4090 is not heald back in 4.0 x16, then its not held back by 5.0 x8.
The Spanish translation is "does not go" or "no go"... they could've named it a bit better.
Hey, you think this is bad? Chevrolet tried to sell a car in the 70s called the Nova and wondered why it didn't move many models in Spanish-speaking regions.
Nobody cares
It's from Latin novus, like neuva
@@markdeckard76517.5% of the world’s population speaks Spanish.
@@Kvantum Duuuh I are very smart and parrot things without confirming and my name is Kvatum:
"The story is an urban legend. In Spanish, nova means the same as it does in English. You need to insert a space to get to no va, and evidently people didn't. The Nova sold very well in both Mexico and Venezuela."