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5 Things I HATE about my 2022 Hyundai Kona N! (And How I fixed 1 of them).
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- The Hyundai Kona N is a terrific machine. Tons of a fun, pretty efficient, and packed with features.
PSA: THE 2023 KONA N IN NA DOES NOT HAVE RADAR CRUISE! THANKS CHAT!
But it is not perfect.
And if you are going to spending over 34,000 of your hard earned dollars on one of these, you better know ALL the details. Take it from me, someone who has owned this car for 3 months, and put well over 5,000 miles on it, I know the bad.
While I still love this machine, I think it is important to highlight all the details so that you, the potential buyer, can make the best decision.
Thanks for watching!
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Who cares what other brand owners think about it? I don't understand that point at all. Of course, the other brand owners don't like it because it's a Hyundai. I guess the Type R owner that I smoked the other day hated that he got owned by a Hyundai, but that's part of the fun. I've spent the last 6 months making GTI, Type R, and a bunch of Audi owners wish they had made a different choice, hehehe. I love my Kona N.
W response! Long as you long your run nothing else matters 💯
Thank You! I’m so sick of that, “oh it’s not a ____!”, or, “It’s just a ____!”, petty bullshit! Can I just like cars like Hyundai’s or Kia’s! Yeah, sure Hyundai and Kia have had some reliability issues in the past, but if they’re making cool cars like this, then I don’t give a shit what happened in the past! As far as I know, I don’t think any N car has had any problems other than dealership problems like putting the wrong oil in the cars. And don’t get me wrong, I like the Type-R. And what’s wrong with liking both? These N cars deserve to be on the road as much as a Type-R. It makes the car industry more interesting and fun.
Great video! Thanks! What is the correct name of the suspension item, you put into the Kona N to make it softer? I could only see the springs for a second, but I did not understand what is that!
It's really weird how muddled globally the options are on car that was available in practically all markets, from North America to all of Europe and Asia and Australia.
It makes no sense. You had the whole things with the sunroofs, then you had that exclusive satin color in Australia. the NA Wheels vs the forged ones. Some markets just had the electric comfort seats, some could pick between cloth and the comfort electric ones. Very odd.
Mine is a '23 In Sonic Blue with manual seats, but the assist package (Blind Spot Warning and some Emergency Breaking System. BCA and RCCA ) and sun roof. It's also supposed to have Adaptive Cruise Control, not sure if that's with Radar or not. I agree with most of your points. Standard N is pretty hardcore, kind of cool when the roads are perfect otherwise...not so much, in N-Custom on Normal it's totally fine here in Germany. The backseats isn't an issue, only use them sparingly, I do wish they had just added a bit more soft touch material, not even anything like Audi level leather or alcantara, just some more soft to the touch places similar to the arm rests, would have been nice and (cost effectively) elevated the interior I think. Or maybe even some red piping/stripes to give the center console/dash area a bit more color. I'm quite glad I have no blank buttons.
Do I miss ventilated seats? No, electric seats? No. But that's a me thing, since I only adjust my seat once and leave it, and they feel fine so far. Then again I went from a '06 Ford Focus to a 2023 Kona N...so..everything is like "Holy Shit this is awesome." still. Since I only got the car a month ago.
My biggest gripe with my Kona N is the tiny gas tank. The small 13 gallon tank is annoying. The removal of those features is also a issue for me and i love the Wheels the rest of the world got vs the ones we got.
Fair critique Draven! I would say the rest of the segment, aside from WRX (with over 16 gallons), sadly...
Here in Canada the N have the heads up display and heated steering wheel. Only the N-Line with ultimate package have ventilated front seats.
I had an Ultimate N-line which I traded for my '23 Kona N. Loved the ventilated seats. Really wish I had that in my Black KN... I would GLADLY trade the useless HUD for it.
@@Rich944inSK honest question, how did you like your N-Line one? did you have any problems at all and overall after purchase was the performance still nice or did it feel slow after a while, I'm really considering one as, as much as i love the Kona N it's a bit outside of my realistic budget and the N line is more around what i can afford comfortably, but i still want something fun but practical since i still need to shove some tool boxes in the back
Were are you from? In europe kona N comes with solar roof, ventilated seats, and it does stay in the center of the road, head up display and more... all stock
USA! Here we get screwed for all the cool features.........
my only thing about this car is the fuel tank size but now you can find them for 23-26k with low miles i think it maybe worth that price
Have you noticed with the transmission patch that the exhaust note is more mellow no pops and crackle like before even a guy on the Kona forum was talking about it also.
Great question Cindy! I have not. Still can be a crackly pop machine
I really like your wheel, what is the size and brand?
Check the description!
I have a standard Kona and it totally love it. However I hate the blue LED lights in the interior. Wish I could change them with something warm. Yellow or orange.
I hear you there Barney, would love a nice orange.
My thoughts/questions:
- Great video! Glad I found another content creator with the KonaN.
- With your coilovers, how do they interact with the drive mode system? While the factory suspension is inarguably stiff, I do appreciate that the drive modes do actually make a noticeable difference. Do you lose those adaptive, integrated features with the aftermarket coilovers?
- I have a 2022 Kona N and my lane keep works beautifully! It’s far better than the systems I’ve had in other cars. The only issue I encounter is if I’m in a lane that borders an exit lane, offramp, etc. It will sometimes freak out and try to pull me into the new exit lane. Otherwise, it’s perfect in my vehicle. In fact, it’s so good that sometimes the vehicle will tell me to keep my hands on the wheel when they already are… I just rarely have to move the wheel on my own! Sorry yours is problematic. I would be annoyed too if I had that experience.
- I think it’s unfair to criticize the materials of the car, as well as some of the missing features such as vent. seats, while still considering it a value for the money. You reference multiple times that when you’re paying for a car that costs 35-36k you should expect more quality. In 2022, the avg price paid for a new car in the USA was approx 46k. This car was 10k below average, so I think you have to keep that in mind when considering material quality. After all, it was built upon an economy, compact SUV. In my opinion, they chose the perfect places to skimp and the perfect places to splurge. When I’m flooring it, or leaning into a sharp turn, I’m just smiling. Smiling is all I can do when I’m driving this car. I’m not thinking about the materials for even a single second.
- I didn’t know the 2023 KonaN got radar cruise… wonder if it’s possible to swap the unit for a 2022?
Hey BarrettBritt, happy to answer!
-Thanks for the kind words!
-If you have the opportunity to drive an N product with aftermarket coilovers (specifically a quality unit like the Fortune Auto 500), they are fantastic. The compliance over bumps, which N cars do not have, while maintaining the sporty characteristic is incredible. That said, due to the fact that you are replacing the stock suspension, fully, you lose the ability to change it's characteristic in different mods (barring you spend the big bucks and get an adaptive suspension like EDFC from Tein or something else). While I do agree, that the stock suspension does change greatly from mode to mode, the Fortune 500 setup is more comfortable, and still sporty.
-That is great! Some users do not see issues with the lane keep, but a lot of them do as well. this is a common problem in the forums, and I certainly am not an isolated case here. That said, glad you do not have that issue.
-That is your opinion, but sir I do disagree. Cars are certainly getting more expensive, with the average price to your point being in the 46,000 class. However, the competition to the Hyundai N products showcase something interesting. It shows that Hyundai clearly put their investment towards developing a line of vehicles that was fun, great to drive, and would give you smiles for all the miles. What they did not do, however, was put the money into places that you wouldn't touch/see/feel, because that money went into the driveline that gives you endless levels of happiness. A car like the Civic Si, or GTI, which you can buy for the same price as the N, is not as fun to drive. However, what they do possess is a level of quality, fit and finish, and materials, that are a league above the N products. THAT my friend, is the beauty of the segment. You pick what you value more. For you? The driving dynamics are all you need to ensure that the vehicle in your driveway is one for the long haul. For others? They value comfort slightly more than driving dynamics and stats, so a GTI would be better...etc etc etc, the fact both exist is magical
-Edit on this one. While I thought this was the case, turns out only international markets got access to the radar cruise. I am sure you could fit the gear, and get the car programmed for it, but I doubt the time/investment needed to do so would be worth it.
@@MoneyShift sorry for the late response! I’ve been in the process of moving and also just trying to use my phone less. But thanks so much for the thorough reply!
I’d miss having the OEM adjustability, however, if the fortune auto are really that great, it seems you wouldn’t need it anyways! Good to know.
As far as the features and quality, to each their own. I certainly would want both performance and interior quality, but if I had to choose, I’d go performance. At least I would at this stage in my life. Maybe in five years I’ll feel differently. There’s something for everyone, as you said, which is great for the community. Amongst the category leaders in the economical (relatively lol) and fun to drive area, it’s very hard to make a bad choice. Civic SI, GTI, type R, Golf R, Kona N, GRC, etc. all have their strengths and weaknesses but are a great collection as a whole.
Nice talking with you! I’m 100% going to be watching your content regularly.
Unfortunately he got rid of his Kona N and replaced it with a Integra Type-S. Sucks, but can’t blame him.
@@oraclemiata845 I’d do the exact same thing if I could afford one. Kona was my first car I bought myself so I’m trying to stay comfortably within my means rn
@@barrettbritt I can’t justify the cost of the ITS or the CTR. Both fantastic cars, but I feel that I get 80% of what they offer for 60% of the price. Those #’s work better for me. Also, it’s cool to have a sleeper of sorts.
Just got one and love it. I think I am going to purchase those coilovers. How dramatic is the ride improvement?
Night and day! I have another video detailing it, check it out!
Look into the SXTH element lower mount, or just bushing upgrades👍
My lane keep doesn't bounce around like that. Might be because youve lowered it without any calibration for the sensors
Not the case Matthew, it did it before I lowered it and still does it after.
Plenty of other owners are reporting the same issue. Be lucky you got a good one!
Is there soft suspension option? Good enough for new born child in child seat? Does it have hooks for car seat in back seats? Thanks
Yes totally, and hooks do exist for a car seat.
So true about the badge. Car looks dope though.
Agreed!
I hate drivong assists in general so those as a small gripe are something i dont mind as i would not use them to begin with other than cruise. My civic has adaptive and i honestly dont like it. I prefer regular cruise. I do not like the ride height either i think it would have been better lowered from factory and maroeted as a hot hatch as dimensinoally it is body wise
I have Kona N 2022 and I am from Europe and I have all those missing features, kinda weird
If not a Kona N what would you replace it with in the same category?
Elantra N 😂
But in all seriousness I’d likely go GTI. While not as fun, the materials inside are more premium, it’s engaging, and quick.
Besides the stiff ride, those high performance tires are LOUD too.
That they are! That said, this is a common thing in the space when it comes to tires so I did not highlight. That said, you are 100% right.
And those tires smoke in the first 3 gears I N-mode.
LOL
I keep hearing that the Kona n is in the same category as a civic SI, but the civic SI only makes 200 when the Kona N-line makes 195 and the Kona N makes 276
I do actually agree that it is in the same category. That category? Sub $35,000 fun daily drivers.
That said what they prioritize is different. The Kona N prioritizes outright speed, handling, and fun to drive (with comfort second), where the Si focuses on being a more balanced daily driver that is fun to drive.
The beauty is both exist!
I’m looking at buying a 2023 kona N tomorrow. I’ll be posting a video on the buying/ after the buying process if anyone is interested. Should I go through with the purchase? I’ve been getting a million signs as to yes
Did you enjoy the car? Does it fit your needs financially?
If yes and yes, do it! You’ll love it
Have question my Kona N radiator fan never turns off is this normal
It should certainly turn off at some point, but it is common for them to stay on a bit after you turn off the car
@@MoneyShift stay on all the time my AC off
I let the N idle for a short time before shutting off. Especially during the warm months.
Thats a very good looking car for a hyundai!
Right? Sits EXCELLENT.
The 23 KN does NOT have adaptive cruise in the USA.
This has been pointed out, but thank you!
I was reading reports globally and got it confused, thanks for the clarification
I just got a Kona N. Love it so much in every way possible.
Who the fuk cares about what other people think? Because it's a hyundai? If that's what they think, then I would consider them prejudices and/or racists depending on your perspective. Definitely, not the type of people you need in your life at all. They need to grow up. It is now 2024.
You have potential
Thanks CommonDuck! I’m trying 😅
2023 doesnt have adaptive cruise control either.
Aside from suspension it’s almost the perfect drivers car for 35K and that’s where your money went. You have the second best DCT gearbox on the market behind Porsche PDK and lots of money went into the ELSD and chassis reinforcements.
For 35K you can get a mazda 3 turbo w a more comfy experience, nicer interior, but not as exciting and it doesnt have a multi link rear end. Also has a cramped back seat. VW does it all well but they are boring and terrible reliability (consistently outside top 10). My wife has a civic si and it’s a great car for 35K but it also has trade offs.
At 35K no car will have it all. Some will be average at everything while others chose to be great at a few things and terrible at others. You have to choose what’s important to you. The Acura Integra is 38K new off the lot and amazing to drive and amazing suspension and wonderful interior (but its also only 205 hp).
All of these are great cars but its about what you want!
If you want it all move up to the 50K+ dollar range or buy a 4 year old luxury car with miles that’s not 40% off MSRP.
The plus side of the simple interior with plastics in the Kona N is it is easy to clean. It will look way better than a sophisticated leather and Alcantara interior that looks good today but like shit when a few years go by and its been used and abused. However, I hardly know any cars at the 30-35k price range in the US w/ ventilated seats.
Thanks for the video and your efforts. Sincerely. I mean that. You are making good and informative videos for the masses.
However, and I don't mean this rudely, but, you sound spoiled. You had a choice and made your choice.
It's not the badge in the front, it's the history of unreliability the badge carries
Probably should have got the elantra n then
Styling of the Kona N alone gets the nod for me. Love the Elantra N, but the Kona just looks so freakin rad.
When you start talking about materials, its just basic durable plastic, used in All cars, not bad!!
Fair point Frederck!
Your wrong about the cruise control in the 2023 Kona N. Just an FYI.
Thanks for the feedback Oracle Miata, per Hyundai’s website and other major publications it looked as though it was standard now.
Thanks for the callout, and I’ll be sure to add a PSA note on the video if I can through RUclips if not I’ll add in the description
Yeah, I own a SB 23 and the missing features compared to the rest of the world are my biggest gripe. Especially the black forged wheels Europe gets.
FCA and RCCA systems are the most frustrating retarded upgrade I've ever experienced they got me so close to accidents many times.
personally the first two things on this list make me want to stop watching this video, but for entertainment purposes ill continue.....
Appreciate the support!
The EU version is amazing lol You guys got screwed hard.
Right? 😭 totally agree
If you hate it then why did you get it
Thanks for the comment Berniearenburg, I don't hate this car. As I stated in the video multiple times I like it a lot, and would actively recommend it.
But it isn't perfect, and if you are going to spend nearly 36,000 on it, you need to know all the good and the bad!
@@MoneyShiftSome people don't understand enjoying something while being able to criticize things about it as well. I personally clicked your video as I'm interested in the Kona N and I wanted to know what some drawbacks were.
My brother's girlfriend recently bought a new Sonata and it was the same for the interior. Hard cheap plastics all around so I'm disappointed to hear they are the same in the KN but at the price point I'm not entirely surprised. I think it is something I could easily get passed and adjust to even though I had a loaded Ram Sport and now have a Civic touring which interior wise were both quite nice and a lot more premium. But the pure driving fun I have heard about this thing plus it's wild look especially lowered. It's a contender I'm considering.
It always cracks me up when I hear people complaining about the gas mileage of a performance vehicle..one said I keep it in economy mode..wtf..I have a 2023 Kona N Line and Always run it in sport mode and still get 30-32 mpg..Sport mode is a night and day difference in this car..But if your worried about a gas mileage Don't get a kona N..note..the N and N line is only 1.6 sec difference from 0 -60
Go to other cars~!
Coming soon!
This little girl crying go with mommy please
You good?