I got the 20" barrel version, & its shorter than my vz2008 & my mini 14, only a few hundred rounds of 193 ball through it & no faults , very accurate, this is my new groundhog slayer.😉😁
"Clip" comment aside (doesn't bother me), what does concern me is that you did not talk at all about the shooting experience. I appreciate you mentioning the walking bolt/screw issues and the light primer strike issue, but I would have preferred to also hear about how it compares to an AR15 with a similar barrel length or one with similar length and shorter barrel. What's the recoil impulse like between the two? Which platform is more balanced? Are there any accuracy issues? etc.
reignick1133 Yeah, this vid is living proof that anyone can review anything with almost no knowledge base. This video is why I refuse to review any firearm. No way I want to be put into the same catagory as 99% of these so called professionals.
Mine has had the screws walk out which was an easy fix. Mine will not use gi mags as they drop out. Pmags work great. 2 big issues I have is mine continually breaks firing pins around 1k rounds. The other is my top rail expands with heat and I get vertical stringing as it shifts my red dots point of aim. I've tried leaving the rear most screw loose as keltec suggests, and I've used rock set to tighten the screws and they haven't moved. I've used the dot on other AR's with no issues, but perhaps it's malfunctioned. I'll have to test that next.
American eagle ammo is actually pretty crappy. I've used it in different guns and calibers and light strikes happen. The primers get seated a little too far. Also not cleaning out the firing pin and bolt properly can cause light strikes over time. As most people don't think about or ever deep clean. Gunked up parts can cause malfunctioning to occur. I see extraction and light strike issues on guns especially AR'S and old shotguns, hunting rifles because they are never cleaned/ oiled in the bolt or extractors. Great video though!
I just think you had bad ammunition. My first time out if I fired 200 rounds of Winchester white box xm193 55 grn I have absolutely no issues whatsoever not one light primer strike. In addition I shot an additional hundred rounds of wolf Steelcase polycoat again no light primer strikes at all. If you take the cartridge out after it failed to fire and there is a dimple on the primer it just means that you had a defective primer on that round.
I don't think these guys know anything about firearms at all. In 4 min 44 sec, they demonstrated multiple full retard moments. Imagine how dangerous they are during a whole day of shooting. They had shit ammo, and an unlubricated rifle. Your comment was more informal than their review. Can't wait to get mine!
Might as well just re-upload a version without the gentleman calling the magazine a clip. It's silly. He probably knows what he's talking about, but most in the community learn pretty early on to use the right terminology so it does hit the review's credibility pretty hard.
Clip? Not trying to be a snob. It's pretty obvious what is meant, but I know more people than not, who would seriously question the credibility of a review that refers to a magazine as a clip. Not a problem for me. I wouldn't say it, but I don't get spun out about it.
Pretty sure you have the 20" there. I'm not aware of Kel-Tec ever manufacturing barrel lengths other than 17.3" and 20". They didn't make a 18.5" specifically for us in Canada. I also have the exact same mount for my LPVO, and since I'm a lefty it stays out of my way with the charging handle. You might as well just flip the mount around, it's cantilevered for use on an AR and rail space is not an issue for the RDB.
You mention using Blue Loctite. Have you considered using Purple Loctite? Purple Loctite threadlocker is considered to have low adhesion strength. It can be disassembled with low torque with the same hand tool used to install it. It is available in a liquid form, and once applied to the threads it will cure in 24 hours. The most common version is Loctite 222.
Flip your rifle upside down and shine a light in the ejection port. Now pull the charging handle and tell me what happens when you hit your "second stroke".
Mine runs flawless with m855 from federal and Winchester. with a truglo red and green dot I was making one hole at 25 yards. I loved it. Then I tried it at 100 yards. What a disaster. I tried making adjustments to my sight, and now I hit absurdly high left. can't figure out if "UP" means point of impact up, or if it means the reticle moves up (poi down). I have the same issue with "LEFT". During the same range trip I had no problem sighting in with an AR (Smith and Wesson) with a vortex 1x8 and another AR (BCM upper palmetto lower) with a Burris. On the magnified scopes "UP" means point of impact moves up.
I'd swap for a better optic. Truglo is slightly better that a toy by most standards. Primary Arms makes some good quality stuff for around $200-300 that would go well on an RDB
@@luckyomen in the last 10 months something came loose on the truglo. I kept re zeroing, wasting ammo, and having accuracy problems at 100. I removed it, and "accidentally" left it on the bench. I put a holosun 507 green on it. Now I get 2.5 moa at 100 yards. It's nothing to be proud of, but I still like the gun. If I was going to do it again, I'd just get the Magpul flip up sights. They are dirt cheap, very sturdy, and very accurate. Alternatively, get a sub 2000. They are more accurate, much lighter, it's cheaper to shoot 9mm, the gun itself is cheaper, it comes with built in sights, and I actually like the trigger. Id pick the version that takes Glock 19 mags because they also accept the 33 rounders.
I have only don’t limited testing with 30 round steel mags. But have shot lots with the lar-15 pistol mags here in Canada they are steel and have not had a problem with them in the keltec. I do have some steel 30. I’m going use more to see the out come.
I bought mine 4 months ago. Right off the bat, light primer strikes. ( out of 200 rds, had around 40 light primer strikes with various types of ammo) ... sent it back to keltec and just got it back last week. Keltec explained they replaced firing mechanism with upgraded parts. Haven’t shot it yet,..,we’ll see. Good review.
[ENG] The problem is the Springs from Bolt Stop, change and the problem it's fixet. a steel nib of a ballpoint pen is sufficient as a replacement. [DE] Wenn man die Federn beim Bolt Stop ersetzt gibt es keine Ladehemmungen mehr, eine Rostfreie Feder eines Kugelschreiber genügt um 2 genug starke Federn zu bekommen. Die Triger Feder kann auch ersetzt werden wenn 2.2 zu viel ist. Zusätzliche Anpassungen bekommt man auch hier: lifeindustries.net/dir Wer beim Hülsenauswurf mit einer Breitflachzange am unteren Ende des Hülsenauswurfblech ein innengerichtetes Bördchen (20° bis 45°) macht, hat einen besseren Auswurf. Wenn die RDB im Schlamm war, vor dem ersten Schuss hinten beim Hülsenauswurf kurz ausspülen oder Ausklopfen dann gibt es kein verklemen. Da die RDB wie das AR-15 funktioniert aber keinen Manuell Vorstoss hat (was es auch nicht Braucht) genügt es beim nicht ganz verschliessen einen leichten Schlag auf die Unterseite des gesteckte Magazin zu geben (war nach 1670 Schuss am Stück passiert) aber wenn man die Verschlussfede anstatt Fett nur mit Brunox TOP-KETT High-Tech Schmiermittel behandelt hat dieses Problem nicht, war selbst erstaunt, hatte danach selbst bei 2000 Schuss kein Problem. Ach ja, die Hinterschaftschrauben solltet ihr mit LockTide oder Mutterstopkleber behandeln. Klar die Schrauben bekommt man locker aber es nervt wenn man sie verliert.
RDB-20 5.56 NATO/.223 REM Short stroke gas, rotary bolt has 1:7” Rifling. 1-in-7 Inches Twist Rate barrels will stabilize bullets of up to 90 grains, and can handle the 70- to 77-grain bullets at just about any velocity, which makes it well suited for carbines with very short barrels. but won't shoot 55- or 62-grain FMJs worth a damn. using a bullet that's too heavy for your barrel's twist is a virtual promise of poor accuracy and ineffective terminal performance.
RDB is preferably for home defense situations (close confined quarters and sterile). In all honesty in any other scenario you will want a decent AR15 in your hands. I know I would.
I agree. I love mine but I’ve had to replace my firing pin already. It’s super fun and I’d trust it with my life but for sheer availability of parts my AR would be my SHTF choice. I wish keltec used a standard ar-15 bolt and firing pin as well as ar15 barrel. Would’ve been way more customization and probably had no firing pin issues
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I got the 20" barrel version, & its shorter than my vz2008 & my mini 14, only a few hundred rounds of 193 ball through it & no faults , very accurate, this is my new groundhog slayer.😉😁
Like nobody's had a light primer strike with an ar15 .
Its like 1911s having Feed/ Extract/ Fire issues. Never. lol
"Clip" comment aside (doesn't bother me), what does concern me is that you did not talk at all about the shooting experience. I appreciate you mentioning the walking bolt/screw issues and the light primer strike issue, but I would have preferred to also hear about how it compares to an AR15 with a similar barrel length or one with similar length and shorter barrel. What's the recoil impulse like between the two? Which platform is more balanced? Are there any accuracy issues? etc.
Light primer strikes couldve very well have been from primers being recessed into the casing a little too much
2:31 "Think it might be the clip?" Geez, how can I take this review seriously?
and then the presenter goes on to call DD M 18 the "EMM Kay eight teen" Mk is phonetically pronounced MARK...this guy makes me want to punch babies.
I thought the same
reignick1133 Yeah, this vid is living proof that anyone can review anything with almost no knowledge base. This video is why I refuse to review any firearm. No way I want to be put into the same catagory as 99% of these so called professionals.
I couldn't hear him over the sound of my own screams, "Get your finger off the trigger!"
Maybe he just clipped on the magazine :)
I love my Kel-Tech RDB Survival!!! AWESOME rifle.
Mine has had the screws walk out which was an easy fix. Mine will not use gi mags as they drop out. Pmags work great. 2 big issues I have is mine continually breaks firing pins around 1k rounds. The other is my top rail expands with heat and I get vertical stringing as it shifts my red dots point of aim. I've tried leaving the rear most screw loose as keltec suggests, and I've used rock set to tighten the screws and they haven't moved. I've used the dot on other AR's with no issues, but perhaps it's malfunctioned. I'll have to test that next.
If you send it in to Keltec they will fix the issues. A lot of the early lowers had problems with steel and aluminum mags
i used the loctite too ...have only had 1 failure to feed out of around 9000 rounds
Its definitely not the clip....
Might be the magazine however...
And why not just flip the scope mount around?
I've watch alot of ARs have malfunctions using American Eagle....chalk that up as cheap ammo
"Clip" what's that?
Clip was for the chip bag. 👍
American eagle ammo is actually pretty crappy. I've used it in different guns and calibers and light strikes happen. The primers get seated a little too far.
Also not cleaning out the firing pin and bolt properly can cause light strikes over time. As most people don't think about or ever deep clean. Gunked up parts can cause malfunctioning to occur. I see extraction and light strike issues on guns especially AR'S and old shotguns, hunting rifles because they are never cleaned/ oiled in the bolt or extractors. Great video though!
Think it might be the clip?
The Midwest scope mount so the QD is on the other side, IMO the MI is a better mount, Mrgunsngear, MAC, and several others run them for reference
I just think you had bad ammunition. My first time out if I fired 200 rounds of Winchester white box xm193 55 grn I have absolutely no issues whatsoever not one light primer strike. In addition I shot an additional hundred rounds of wolf Steelcase polycoat again no light primer strikes at all. If you take the cartridge out after it failed to fire and there is a dimple on the primer it just means that you had a defective primer on that round.
I don't think these guys know anything about firearms at all. In 4 min 44 sec, they demonstrated multiple full retard moments. Imagine how dangerous they are during a whole day of shooting. They had shit ammo, and an unlubricated rifle. Your comment was more informal than their review. Can't wait to get mine!
Winchester white box is known to be quite shitty too.
Have you tried steel cased ammo?
Mine eats it up
thanks really big help,
Send it back to Keltec to fix the light primer strike caused by hammer getting caught in side guide leaf.
More likely the dog crap ammo that's the problem
Careful with the light strike clearing... Those drop by your feet with this model, a hangfire would make for a bad day.
Thanks for the review
Might as well just re-upload a version without the gentleman calling the magazine a clip. It's silly. He probably knows what he's talking about, but most in the community learn pretty early on to use the right terminology so it does hit the review's credibility pretty hard.
What is the Scope Mount you are using?
Clip? Not trying to be a snob. It's pretty obvious what is meant, but I know more people than not, who would seriously question the credibility of a review that refers to a magazine as a clip. Not a problem for me. I wouldn't say it, but I don't get spun out about it.
Pretty sure you have the 20" there. I'm not aware of Kel-Tec ever manufacturing barrel lengths other than 17.3" and 20". They didn't make a 18.5" specifically for us in Canada.
I also have the exact same mount for my LPVO, and since I'm a lefty it stays out of my way with the charging handle. You might as well just flip the mount around, it's cantilevered for use on an AR and rail space is not an issue for the RDB.
Killed a lot of helgast with that rifle
😂😂😂
Helghast***
Try lubing the complete action before use...
Michael Ferrari whenever someone has an issue with their gun. I’ve found that 9/10 times it’s now lubed adequately.
If you lube the bolt face the oil can Neutralize the primer which won’t make it go bang. So not the whole action
You mention using Blue Loctite. Have you considered using Purple Loctite? Purple Loctite threadlocker is considered to have low adhesion strength. It can be disassembled with low torque with the same hand tool used to install it. It is available in a liquid form, and once applied to the threads it will cure in 24 hours. The most common version is Loctite 222.
Is your charging handle smooth or is the second half of the stroke more difficult than the first?
I just bought one and it is the same. Almost like the action spring has two stages
I just bought one and it is the same. Almost like the action spring has two stages
Flip your rifle upside down and shine a light in the ejection port. Now pull the charging handle and tell me what happens when you hit your "second stroke".
Hey man, did you shoot .223 or 5.56 with your keltec? i noticed the canadian version is .223 rem but will it shoot standard 5.56 nato as well?
Canadian RDBs are marked as .223 for import purposes. But they are actually chambered in 5.56. I called Kel Tec and asked.
I don't know how I feel about having to tighten the screws from time to time...
@@MtnPeakEnduro if I have to put loctite on a gun then the gun isn't worth the ammo I'm shooting out of it
@@MtnPeakEnduro I do not, but I have not used a scope yet, just red dots. I should have thought about that before making my previous comment.
Then don't ever buy a long range, magnum calibre rifle
Nice video. Been looking at these.
I lost a few cheek rest screws on mine found the same screws at ACE hardware
Thanks for that. Same some time looking if I ever do lose some.
“ the clip”
What sling you are running ?
2damaxmr2 Ferro Concepts, The Slingster
@@Jamiebob9771 For the pricing i think i will stick with tavor sling. Thanks anyway
Mine runs flawless with m855 from federal and Winchester. with a truglo red and green dot I was making one hole at 25 yards. I loved it.
Then I tried it at 100 yards. What a disaster. I tried making adjustments to my sight, and now I hit absurdly high left. can't figure out if "UP" means point of impact up, or if it means the reticle moves up (poi down). I have the same issue with "LEFT".
During the same range trip I had no problem sighting in with an AR (Smith and Wesson) with a vortex 1x8 and another AR (BCM upper palmetto lower) with a Burris. On the magnified scopes "UP" means point of impact moves up.
I'd swap for a better optic. Truglo is slightly better that a toy by most standards. Primary Arms makes some good quality stuff for around $200-300 that would go well on an RDB
@@luckyomen in the last 10 months something came loose on the truglo. I kept re zeroing, wasting ammo, and having accuracy problems at 100.
I removed it, and "accidentally" left it on the bench.
I put a holosun 507 green on it. Now I get 2.5 moa at 100 yards. It's nothing to be proud of, but I still like the gun. If I was going to do it again, I'd just get the Magpul flip up sights. They are dirt cheap, very sturdy, and very accurate.
Alternatively, get a sub 2000. They are more accurate, much lighter, it's cheaper to shoot 9mm, the gun itself is cheaper, it comes with built in sights, and I actually like the trigger. Id pick the version that takes Glock 19 mags because they also accept the 33 rounders.
Do you have any issues with steel mags falling out after shooting one round?
I have only don’t limited testing with 30 round steel mags. But have shot lots with the lar-15 pistol mags here in Canada they are steel and have not had a problem with them in the keltec. I do have some steel 30. I’m going use more to see the out come.
Rocky Mountain House?
1 ua yes.
The light primer strikes are probably due to it being under gassed. You just need to increase the gas one or two clicks.
Can't see that unless it was so under gassed it didn't reset the hammer but then it wouldn't have fed or attempted to fire
Under gassing would create a failure to eject or failure to feed, not a light primer strike
I bought mine 4 months ago. Right off the bat, light primer strikes. ( out of 200 rds, had around 40 light primer strikes with various types of ammo) ... sent it back to keltec and just got it back last week. Keltec explained they replaced firing mechanism with upgraded parts. Haven’t shot it yet,..,we’ll see. Good review.
Would like to hear how the upgraded parts work out for you. If my gets any Worth I’ll be sending it back for some updated parts.
You could try using ammo that isn't shit.
Did the parts work out?
@@Jamiebob9771 do you still have the RDB? Did you get it sorted out? Any updates?
@@Steven-gv1ke still own the rdb. Once I stopped shooting AE ammo this problem went a way.
[ENG]
The problem is the Springs from Bolt Stop, change and the problem it's fixet.
a steel nib of a ballpoint pen is sufficient as a replacement.
[DE]
Wenn man die Federn beim Bolt Stop ersetzt gibt es keine Ladehemmungen mehr, eine Rostfreie Feder eines Kugelschreiber genügt um 2 genug starke Federn zu bekommen.
Die Triger Feder kann auch ersetzt werden wenn 2.2 zu viel ist.
Zusätzliche Anpassungen bekommt man auch hier:
lifeindustries.net/dir
Wer beim Hülsenauswurf mit einer Breitflachzange am unteren Ende des Hülsenauswurfblech ein innengerichtetes Bördchen (20° bis 45°) macht, hat einen besseren Auswurf.
Wenn die RDB im Schlamm war, vor dem ersten Schuss hinten beim Hülsenauswurf kurz ausspülen oder Ausklopfen dann gibt es kein verklemen.
Da die RDB wie das AR-15 funktioniert aber keinen Manuell Vorstoss hat (was es auch nicht Braucht) genügt es beim nicht ganz verschliessen einen leichten Schlag auf die Unterseite des gesteckte Magazin zu geben (war nach 1670 Schuss am Stück passiert) aber wenn man die Verschlussfede anstatt Fett nur mit
Brunox TOP-KETT High-Tech Schmiermittel behandelt hat dieses Problem nicht, war selbst erstaunt, hatte danach selbst bei 2000 Schuss kein Problem.
Ach ja, die Hinterschaftschrauben solltet ihr mit LockTide oder Mutterstopkleber behandeln. Klar die Schrauben bekommt man locker aber es nervt wenn man sie verliert.
This guys review is void because of nomenclature?
Looks like the battle rifle from halo 2.
Slightly less effective at penetrating a covenant elites energy shields
Swap your scope mount around. I did that on mine, no issues.
Ya that not a bad idea. I did end up putting on a eotech. Seem to be a better optic for what i want to use the RDB for.
Slight mag disrespect but I'm not disappointed otherwise.
RDB-20 5.56 NATO/.223 REM
Short stroke gas, rotary bolt has 1:7” Rifling.
1-in-7 Inches Twist Rate barrels will stabilize bullets of up to 90 grains, and can handle the 70- to 77-grain bullets at just about any velocity, which makes it well suited for carbines with very short barrels. but won't shoot 55- or 62-grain FMJs worth a damn. using a bullet that's too heavy for your barrel's twist is a virtual promise of poor accuracy and ineffective terminal performance.
Reaches down to pick up rifle and puts finger in front of barrel. 3:17
It's better than sticking it in your eye, but not much.
Thanks for the review.
"You think it might be the clip?" 😣
RDB is preferably for home defense situations (close confined quarters and sterile). In all honesty in any other scenario you will want a decent AR15 in your hands. I know I would.
I agree. I love mine but I’ve had to replace my firing pin already. It’s super fun and I’d trust it with my life but for sheer availability of parts my AR would be my SHTF choice. I wish keltec used a standard ar-15 bolt and firing pin as well as ar15 barrel. Would’ve been way more customization and probably had no firing pin issues
Clip? Yeah hes ignorant.
"Clip"? Really?
what a joke
Thanks big wheel. Glad you enjoyed it.
The joke is I don't have an RDB yet, thanks for the video you helped me pull the trigger on buying one today
I have an RDB now
@@Jamiebob9771 The RDB makes a good cheap alternative to an AR here in Massachusetts
@@bigwheel3742 same as in Canada we can’t even use a Ar style rifle right now.
He called it a clip... 🤣😂🤣😂. It's a magazine,..... Bozo. Stopped watching after that. Never Again!