Sonos Sub Gen 3 Review - I Didn't KNOW What I Was Missing
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- I needed to review the Sonos sub gen 3 because I've become addicted to buying speakers and this is supposedly the piece that ties it all together. The problem though is the exceptionably high price point. Is it worth the cost?
Watch my Sonos sub gen 3 review and find out now.
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Just a note to say, thanks for the review. I've just ordered and look forward to receiving it.
My pleasure 👊 And how exciting!! If you remember please let me know what you think once you've had a chance to play around with it. Don't forget to set it up on your phone and make some adjustments because it starts at 0... I usually bump mine up between +5-+9 for music and movies.
I started with the Beam Gen 1 and later added IKEA Symfonisk rear speakers to my office LG OLED 55C1. It took over a year before I added the Gen 3 sub and WOW! I didn't realize what I was missing until the sub was added. A noticeable improvement in sound quality with just 5.1 audio format. The wife and I ended up watching more movies in the office compared in the our main TV room LG OLED 77C1 with the Atmos capable Nakamichi 7.2.4 system (our great room shaped exactly like yours). I did upgrade the Office Symfonisk rears to One SLs and didn't notice much of change with sound quality. The One SLs look better and easier to place with the smaller footprint. I don't think most folks could tell the differences between the Symfonisk vs One SLs in a blind test in home theater mode?
Just went for broke and replaced the Nakamichi with the Arc, dual Gen 3 subs, and Fives as surrounds just after X-mas. Fantastic sounding system and it doesn't dominate the room with components/speakers/wires like my wired Nakamichi. The only thing extra I did was hard wire the Arc into my router because I was getting some slowdown on my wi-fi network when streaming/surfing.
Side Note: make sure it says Dolby Digital 5.1 in the smartphone app for best sound quality. I had to set my TV to HDMI bitstream (not PCM or auto) to get the 5.1 Dolby.
Really interesting comment, thanks for sharing.
That's interesting you went with the 5's. Now that the 300's are out would you have bought those instead? Or do you like the quality of the 5's because from my research, they seem like the superior speaker. If I bought more speakers now I would want the 5's as I have music on all the time and those just seem incredible. For movies though the 300's seem great for Atmos content...but how much of that is really available/optimized?
Also, do you find the office is more enjoyable perhaps because it's a closed off, smaller room? I've realize the sound gets lost in the big space... I mean it still sounds great in our big space, but perhaps a closed off theatre room is just more enjoyable because the sound/bass doesn't have to travel as far?
And I know you said you replaced it (perhaps mostly due to the nice aesthetics of the wireless), but how does the Sonos compare to the Nakamichi soundwise overall?
@@TheSAHDLife I purchased the Nakamichi new from Amazon and instantly had to replace the soundbar part because of it wasn't working correctly. Nakamichi replaced it ASAP; but, I started getting a slight muffling sound cutting in/out over time that was getting worse. We couldn't listen to Nakamichi towards the end because the sound quality was getting so bad.
My office is really a 14 feet X 21 feet with 9 foot ceilings formal living room with a 6 foot wide X 8 foot high archway opening into an open floor plan. I also have a Beam Gen 1, Gen 3 sub, and Symfonisk rears in our 18 foot X 21 foot master bedroom with wall mounted LG OLED 55C9. Both Sonos systems sound very similar and just as outstanding in both rooms. Decided to go with the Arc, dual subs, and Fives because my great room is around 20 feet by 42 feet size. I have my rear surround Fives in the middle along opposite walls pointed towards the TV area. I just guessed and figured the One SLs would be too small and the Era 300 didn't have a release date yet during X-mas sale.
The Arc set-up can really fill that great room space without any issues. I don't know if I would have picked the Era 300s over the Fives? Seems like a lot content I watch over streaming services or cable TV isn't in Atmos format (not into spatial audio just yet).
I’ve just jumped on the Sonos bandwagon. Currently still sat in boxes in my bedroom are.. 2x Era 300’s. Sonos Arc and the sub gen 3. Just waiting for the new oled tv to turn up, before I hook it all up… can’t wait!!!
Dang you dropped some serious cash all at once! I'm waiting on my Era 300 delivery, but I'll have the same setup, Arc, SubG3, 2x Era 300 & LG CX. The last 2 years I have loved my Arc and Sub, I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I had to set my LG OLED 77C1 to HDMI bitstream (not PCM or Auto) to get Atmos.
Hahaha you have some serious patience my friend! And man, that setup is going to be OFF the chain! Very excited for you. Let us know how it sounds once you do get it set up. When does the TV arrive?
Oh baby those Era 300's look juicy. They should arrive shortly yeah? You'll have to let me know what you think about the,/
Sick setup though! Do you game on it at all? I'm curious what that is like. Movies sure are a treat now. Now I'm trying to download exciting movies to watch lol, got any suggestions?!
Appreciate this tip. Might help some... thanks!
Have arc, 2 ones for rears and sub gen3 in living room and love it . I sold my wired Klipsch towers and bookshelves total of 11.2 home theater. I know it’s very different type of sound, but I love the clarity of Sonos NO REGRETS
Can you explain the "different" type of sound? I'm just curious since my existing setup wasn't as good as yours. I had a decent receiver and old Polk speakers but... man I just love being able to easily bump up the surrounds or bass of the Sonos on my phone.
Nice setup though! How's gaming on it?
@@TheSAHDLife By difference, I want to say wire system sounds louder in bass of course it’s over powering the living room. But Sonos gives me the clarity on the dialogue for example center channel I can hear the voices much clear and crisp. Atmos effects do sound like more realistic and sounds I couldn’t hear on older setup. my Yamaha receiver is atmos which I only use it for the hdmi ports since my tv has 4 hdmi ports. Other things is no messy wires are gone . 👍🏽 in my bedroom I have arc, 2 one SL I only need sub , which I’m thinking to get the sub mini for this location. Will be upgrading the ones in living room for the Era 300 but later since it’s a Costly system but sound quality is good specially if you know how to play with the Sonos eq etc. My wife was not to happy when I started buying Sonos products because of price , And now she enjoys movies with fam because of sound. Welcome to the Sonos fam Sahd Life.
@@TheSAHDLife oh I forgot to mention about gaming . I do play COD ON PS5 and sounds are amazing . I turned on 3D audio on ps5 sounds incredible. Even at volume 4/6 on Sonos is decent 🔊
I have the Arc, Sub gen 3 and two Era's 300s for surround. The first time I heard them I cried! It was a beautiful feeling 😅
Nice! That’s the setup I’m aiming for, over the next couple months. Just ordered the 300s., kinda torn between either going with Sub or Arc next.
I started with the Apple Homepods this month , which only wet my appetite for good audio, but decided to return em and go for broke with Sonos.
Sick! How do you stream your content? And has there been any Atmos content specifically that really shined?
Sonos is kind of in a league of their own aren't they? I really didn't even consider much competition (Bose? Harmon Kardon?) since they were just so good.
Enjoy those 300's! I'm jelly :)
I was on fence about sub mini & gen 3. Going straight for the gen 3 after this video. Thanks!
Haha amazing! Yeah it sure fills the room with sound. If you remember please let me know what you think when you get it! FYI they set the bass at 0 when you first use it... so be sure to bump it up a bit. I remember turning it on and thinking, is this it!? But then I tweaked the levels in the app and was like OHHH YEAH!
FOR ALL OF YOUR VIEWERS!! Until July, 6th 2024 you can get an official referbished Sub Gen 3, for less than Sub Mini's listed price in this video!
Yeah?! Sick share 👊
That’s where I picked up my Gen 3 sub and Beam Gen 2. Delivered with tax for $870 USD. The units looked brand new. Not a mark anywhere. Best bang for the buck!
Love your enthusiasm!! Now to go for Arc.
Mine setup Arc + sub mini + 2 one sls.
I live in townhome and very happy with it.
That sounds like a great setup. It would be very easy in that situation to have a couple beers and accidentally crank it up a little too loud for the neighbors.
Are you done with buying more speakers for now or are you drawn to any others??! Hehe. If I find a great deal on the five I would love to sit in front of one or two of those and listen to music on that
Same here! I had the regular sub and had to downgrade to the mini lol
My man! You just closed me on getting the amp and the sub.
Haha sick! So, what do you need the amp for? You have some quality non-Sonos speakers I'm guessing you want to connect to your setup? I wonder how well it works, you'll have to let me know if you do it! The sub still thumps!
I understand the Sonos itch. My cousin talked about how good the Beam 2, Sub mini and 2 Ones as rears were for his parents…so after doing my own research I bought the Arc, Sub mini and 2 ones as rears in my living room…really enjoyed that, so I put a Beam 2 and Sub mini in my family room…then I bought a Move to take to work/move around the house (it’s also how I found your channel)…then the Era 300s came out 🤯
Moved my Ones to be rears in my family room and set the Era 300s as rears with my Arc and Sub mini for a full 7.1.4 setup that I’ve been craving since Dolby Atmos became commercially available
Fellow Move brother 👊 alright!
So.... how are the 300's?!?!? How's the new setup!?!? That sounds like an awesome setup, I'm jealous!
And let me ask you, has the itch subsided or is it still strong? Are you content or is the need to keep expanding the collection still there?
@@TheSAHDLife the 300s sound great, but I haven’t been able to test them as much as I’d like yet because of work and family.
The itch has not gone away, plan on getting my dad a Move when he retires this summer and looking for ways to fit more Sonos speakers into my life 😬
@@justinsobojinski Haha ok, it's nice to know I'm not alone. I mean I am content with my setup but still... one can wish!
I want to do more testing as well... my setup I think will rock in a smaller space but still sounds great in this large room. There is a reason why theatre rooms are more contained.
Got the arc for Father’s Day now just sub mini. It’s amazing. Now Im already thinking about the era 300 for next Father’s Day. But my wife is ok with watching with the basic tv speaker and 720p content.
I would love the Era's 300 as well. Would you just use them as surrounds or have them setup for music also? My wife isn't as picky about sound either but she does appreciate it when it's good.
@@TheSAHDLife yes I would use it for rear speakers to enhanced atmos music and movies.
As a audio-newb, your descriptions in this video were poetic and convincing
Thanks for saying, I appreciate it. I hope I wasn't too convincing as it's a ridiculously expensive speaker lol. Sorry 🤣
p.s if you get one let me know what you think!
Awesome review! I enjoyed all of your attention to detail, and you got right to the point. I was on the fence about buying this sub and couldn't justify the cost of purchasing one. But, after watching your review, you closed me on the sub. I just ordered my Sonos Gen 3 from Best Buy and I'll be picking it up in the next hour
Haha awesome! So ...how is it?!!? I know, it costs a lot. But it just adds that weight to the air... that extra vibration that makes life just a little more enjoyable. Let me know when you've had some time to test it out what YOU think.
@@TheSAHDLife I wanted to give you an update on my experience with the sub so far. For starters it’s no light weight. When I picked it off the counter I had to chuck it over my shoulder. Walked out of Best Buy with a big smile, like a kid walking out of a video game store wondering what I’m going to play to test this new toy. The finish and build quality is top notch. They even include a soft wipe towel to wipe off smudges and dust off it. Set up, pairing and tuning was a breeze. I slapped on some Dr. Dre’s Dre day. This thing filled my entire home with deep tight bass. Much so the sound extended to a dining area across my den where all the other Sonos are residing with the sub. Another couple ones and the sub will still be able to fill that area with bass. You were 100% right that over time you begin to notice the crispness the speakers broadcast. The highs are crisper mid and vocals are cleaner. The sub is perfect, it’s the missing piece every system needs. You don’t know you need it until you have it. Watched a couple movies and shows and it fills the room with that extra bass needed to complete experience. I apologize if my grammar isn’t the best as English is not my first language. Thanks again for a great review and keep up the great content.
Mando from West Texas.
@@elguero89 That was awesome to read! Thanks for sharing. I'm so glad it was a great experience... haha just reading it I was smiling along. Isn't it tempting to get another? Hahah juuust kidding.
Next month you have a arc…. 😂
I know right? We are literally moving in 3 weeks and won't get into our new home until 5 weeks after that.... so I'm going to be without my precious Sonos speakers for quite some time. I'm tempted to bring all my speakers with me since we'll be staying with the 'folks and their sound system... well, it sucks. lol.
It's that good eh? I'll definitely look into getting one once we settle in June.
I had to replace my Bose ultra soundbar for the Sonos arc and thank god I did this is another level and just a-few weeks ago I add the gen3 and o my goodness for me is like you said I like to enjoy music and movies the best way possible, everybody has their own taste for different things I know some one who paid more than 3000 on a pair of nike shoes and they are not even new and that for me is really hard to justify something like that but at the end is whatever makes you happy and the Sonos does that for me 😊
Great video. I had the same experience. The look on my kids'' face when the bass hits watching Dune was worth the cost... almost.
Haha, it's so fun. I love it. And yeah, Dune! Good call. It's so fun it's making me want to revisit a bunch of movies / music. Any other favs? I had to test Mad Max of course and that was wild but not quite family friendly!
@@TheSAHDLife I'm with you. Maverick is a good one. The sound editing is phenomenal and really shines with a good Sonos set up.
Bladerunner is great. Try Gravity as well.
0:52 ah the Costco Puma socks! Rock on brother!
Haha nice catch man! You can't beat that value right? 👊
I got the Sonos itch 😅 setup in living room Arc, 2x sun gen 3, 2x era 300 for rears upgraded from the fives. Bedroom beam gen 2, sub mini, 2x fives.
Could Five's by your heads in the bedroom? Oh that sounds juicy! Sick setup.
Are you happy with the 300's? How would you compare them to the Five's? I know they are a much more open soundstage... like I would probably choose Five's at the moment for my next speakers as I listen to music all the time as opposed to watching content which I dont' do as much.
I definitely have the sonos itch. One room is Beam, 2 Ones, and Sub Gen 3, One room is just a One, My Office is two IKEA bookshelf speakers, and recently added another Beam Gen2, Two Ones, and a Sub Mini. The Sub Mini is a really solid performer a well. Think a move is in the future for outside. I also have helped folks install Sonos in their houses and have a house we utilized multiple Sonos amps for in ceiling speakers and paired them to Beams with TVs. Yes its addicting but getting rid of the old setup with wires and ability to play in every room seamlessly with an easy to use app with the sound quality they produce makes this a worth while addiction.
Haha sounds familiar! I really hummed and hawwed about the sub mini so am glad to hear it sounds good. I'd love to get one in the future. I want the Five's real bad as I listen to a lot of music but they aren't cheap! And that's cool about the sonos in the ceiling. What a setup!
I m debating myself between sub gen 3 and sub mini with my beam, which one you like more
It's a very addictive habit!
Replace the Beam with an ARC. You won’t be sorry. In my TV room, I have the ARC, SubGen3, with One surrounds, complementing a 75” QLED 4K TV. Outstanding sound and visuals. Love watching Dolby ATMOS test videos on this system, incredible. I have the Beam in a smaller room, with smaller TV, and in process of adding Sub Mini there. The Beam sounds great, but nowhere near what you get out of the ARC.
Yes, you are right... I have since purchased the Arc and it's awesome. To be honest I don't watch as much at most content as I'd like to because it's always such a treat whenever I do. I think thanks to your comment I might have to search for an Atmos movie to watch tonight 👊
Had bad experiences setting up the systems on the app but got it all working in the end. Saw the Sub at Costco and I want it!
I had a slow start getting them set up also... I had to end up resetting them but once I've done that it's worked great ever since. And yeah the sub is great. Expensive! But great lol
Just ordered the new set of era 300 as my first Sonos speakers, and in the next couple months I’ll be adding a sub gen 3 and an Arc to finish it off .. Probably overkill in my smallish 13x13 living room , but its definitely going to be a thrill. I haven’t had a sound system since the 90s , so I’ve been doing the TV audio thing like your buddy since then. Cheap wine makes you appreciate the good stuff even more! ;)
Haha, yes you will get lost in the content in that room for SURE. Hopefully there is no one sharing walls with you.
And what a sick setup. That's going to be incredible. How will you use the 300's until you get the arc? Just as music speakers, or do you have a soundbar to pair up with the TV? Unless you can somehow use line-in... but I don't think you can use them as TV stereos, correct?
It's a treat being in the ecosystem but then you just want more!
It's not overkill, it's going to be fantastic!
@@TheSAHDLife I was originally planning to use the 300s as a stereo pair for music and TV via airplay from my Apple TV - but I ended up splurging on an Arc the very day I got em, so they’ve been setup as rear surround for the few days I’ve had em. You’re absolutely right though, They’re all incredible for music and everything. I’d say music would sound even better with 300s as fronts, but I don’t feel like I’m missing much with my current config.
That said, I’m very impatiently awaiting the moment I can afford a Gen 3 sub in the next 2 or 3 weeks. Taking that low energy load off the 300s and Arc and allowing them room to breath is really going to open up the whole system to its full potential.
It’s definitely a big investment but you get what you pay for with Sonos. The only small nagging concern I’ve is with their longevity. I like to take care of my gear and enjoy it for decades, especially since I don’t make these big ticket purchases very often. I just hope these won’t become obsolete or unusable. So part of me wonders if I should have gone the analog speaker route, knowing they’d still work great 15-20+ years from now. But every time I play a movie or an Atmos track on Apple Music, that wow factor brushes the doubts away. And it’s always a relief not to deal with spools of speaker wire! :)
@@AdamsBrew78 I'm excited for you to get the sub. You'll have to let me know how you like it once it arrives! It's a big investment but any regret goes out the window when it hits.
And I know.. it's hard to say what the future will be like. I feel like the app offers enough flexibility that I should be happy for years. As long as I can fling to every speaker individually and combine groups I can't see any reason I wouldn't be happy.
The only thing I haven't figured out yet is how to control ALL the speakers when using the voice control from one of them. But maybe I just need to take the time to figure that out. We're a little busy with a move at the moment!
Love it and am super jealous about your setup 👊you just need the sub and it'll be the dream!
@@TheSAHDLife Hey, thanks for the feedback!
The excitement you have for your setup is infectious! This video was actually among the very few that convinced me to go with Sonos in the first place. They weren’t even on my radar before a couple weeks ago.
I think I’m even more excited for the sub than I was for the rest.. Arc and 300s have beautiful bass tones, but you really can’t beat the low frequency that you can feel in your chest. It’s one of my favorite parts of a theatre experience and the only thing thats missing of an otherwise perfect system.
I’m anxiously waiting till first of the month when I can afford to place that order. :)
I love mine, I got one year after I purchased the Arc… buying one Era 300 tomorrow and one in December
The arc and the sub... nice! Do you have any surrounds at the moment? And are you buying the Era for surrounds or just as a standalone speaker?
Awesome vid.. thinking of going Sonos for main living area and leave the SVS and Martin Logan subs for the theater. Was skeptical about the Sub Gen 3 but long as it hits around 45hz with a decent SPL , I think that’s ok enough for streaming shows and an occasional rom com downstairs.. great review! Thanks 👏🏾
Thanks for watching! I think you'd be happy with it, and the Sonos ecosystem is just so handy. Being able to share whatever content is being played on one speaker to any of the others is just the best. Do let me know if you get it what you think!
I think the sub gen 3 hits 20+ Hz no issues, though how that works in a complete system is a different story.
Hi, I just watched a lot of review videos about the Sub Gen 3 because I wasn't sure if it would be worth it (not because of the value and quality, but for the price), but with your video, I felt that you were talking to me the whole time, especially at the end! XD
In the holidays I saw that Costco is going to put it on a deal discount, so I will try to take it XD
Very awesome video, also very funny to watch, thanks for your review! 😀
Hi! I'm glad you found the video. Yeah when the Sub comes in it just makes you smile. Make sure that you tweak it in the settings though because when I first heard it after factory resetting it I thought... Is that it?? But no, it was capable of MUCH more! Love it. Let me know what you think once you eventually get it!
@@TheSAHDLife Hi, hey thanks for the tip! 😀
I surely would let the settings in the default values haha... 😅
Of course, if I'm able to get it, I'll gladly share my thoughts on it! 😃
I use to work at Microcenter and when we started carrying Sonos I was hooked when we had the training. That sub was to die for. I just could never afford it. I just pulled the trigger on a sub mini and Era 300. If one Era 300 isn't enough I'll likely get a second. I really wanted the normal sub but I really just want atmos music so no need for the normal sub just yet.
Well that's an exciting purchase!! So, I only recently discovered (I mean actually got into) Sonos and I fell hard and fast for the sub. The sub-mini in my brain seemed like it just couldn't be good enough, but I have since experienced it and it surprised me! What's your experience like with it? I am obviously still very happy with the sub.
Then for your other speaker, it's funny, my first experience was listening to the 5 and I thought it was SO good. Even after getting these speakers (beam, ikea ones, play 3's) I secretly kind of wanted to buy some 5's for my music listening experience, and I thought the 300's were a bit gimmicky? However! Since then I have gone back to Bestbuy where I was able to test the 300's and the 5 side-by-side and my take-away was that you made the right choice. Sure maybe if you sit directly in front of the 5's, they sound better, but I realized I NEVER do. I'm always moving around, and the fact the 300's sound SO good wherever you are in the room, well I have changed my tune and really want some lol!
They are out of my price range for now but hopefully one day!
Would love to hear your thoughts on that speaker also!
Great review! Fun too. Thanks.
Thanks for saying, I really appreciate it 👊
Still loving and am always impressed with the sub.
I about to pull the trigger on a second sub. I have the playbar and 2 ones. Sounds freaking Crazy good Right now, i have to get the 2nd sub.
Oh baby TWO of those subs? That would be gnarly indeed. Movie night at your place would be bonkers. Your neighbors must love you lol 👊
Nice video. I currently have the arc, gen3 sub and just added a single era 100 to tie in my turntable. Next will either be a pair of 100’s or 300’s for rear surrounds - probably the 100’s for price and aesthetics. Also going to replace a few Amazon echo speakers around the house with 100’s.
Nice setup! So you're happy with the 100's then I take it? I haven't really had a chance to spend much time with them. These dam n speakers sure are addicting eh?
I used to love my little Google speakers around the house... and while I don't have the Assistant as available wherever I am, I don't really mind or miss it. I'd rather have nicer sound from even older Sonos speakers.
@@TheSAHDLife Yes, right now it’s just the single era 100 (with arc and sub) to send the turntable to those speakers and future Sonos speakers. I’ve been pleasantly surprised how nice the 100 sounds with the soundbar. I bump the volume of the soundbar a little higher than the 100 to drive the sub but I wasn’t expecting the fuller stereo sound compared to just the arc and sub alone. I like the 100 well enough that I may just get another pair for rear surrounds.
Hey man nice video!! Enjoyed it a lot, let me ask you what’s your EQ settings for this SONOS setup
Thanks for watching and the support 👊 appreciate it!
Right now I have my surrounds bumped up on the TV (not music) about +3 but I adjust that constantly depending on what I'm watching. So far my beam & 3's are about +2 bass +2 treble, and I have the sub on average around +8. Now I'm in a very big room... we are moving soon so those settings will change.
Keep in mind I have no clue what I'm doing lol. I am still playing with all that stuff and love being able to adjust it on the fly on my phone.
What speakers are you rocking?
I have the beam Gen2, 2 ones and Sub Gen 3, after running truplay, I do feel sound is kinda more crystal, but I think they ( Sonos and truplay pals) don’t like bass at all man lol so I was wondering if it was only me who is always wanting more punchy bass on this setup.
I do have to say, whatever you throw at this SubG3, this thing handles it like a master
@@salimsebas I have had the same experience where it's handling everything I can throw at it so far. I have it in a big room but I've yet to put it somewhere more contained. I'm excited to try that and really feel the rumble.
And I think it's normal to want a little more bass. I remember one time I bought headphones that were recommended from an audiophile on RUclips, then when I got them I was like... uhh, where's the bass. These suck! hehe. I think it's different when you are in a studio recording and when you are at home just listening.
I appreciate the responses, I just bought a Gen3 Sub woofer and had to turn the level up to +8 to +10 to feel that deep bass sound. I thought it was defective at first lol.
@@DansChessLounge I know right? But once you get it in the range it sounds pretty nice eh? You turn it off and you miss it instantly. I do at least.
Careful. A few months ago I had a Beam G2 and Symfonisk surrounds. And a hacked cheap sub. But EOFY sales, gift cards etc. I now have an Arc, Era300 surrounds and a proper Sonos Sub.
Next will be an Era300 for my bedroom 😮. Then a pair 🤔?
Also, try Chainsmokers: Setting Fires, to test bass. I use this track to test everything including earbuds.
Love the recommendation, thanks! And I know right? During that sale we MIGHT have picked up the Arc also 😝. We didn't have enough left over to pick up the 300's which I would just love to test out but... one day. Happy with the setup. My wife and I got the kids out of the house for the night and watched John Wick 4 cranked up on our setup and it was awesome. I was smiling the whole time! The 300's worth it as surrounds vs the Symfonisks?
@@TheSAHDLife night and day. The 300s are on another level.
Away from movies, 50th Anniversary Ed of Dark Side Of The Moon, give that a spin. “Time” is amazing in Dolby Atmos.
@@thieveslikeus1985 Sweet. Will check it! Do you have any movies or scenes in particular you showcase for atmos or just your theatre in general? I've been doing 6 Underground... the flight scene from Top Gun... then just some other random action movies (Mad Max) kind of thing.
@@TheSAHDLife the A Quiet Place movies. The first scared the hell out of me as it’s so quiet at the start but then there’s the scene with the rats… The second one is wall to wall rumble. The scene in the baseball field is chalk and cheese between the Beam and Arc, then Arc + Eras. (There’s an inescapable truth that most people will be drawn to the Era300s as surrounds 😆…)
I really like ur enthusiasm man😅
Thanks man 👊 I really appreciate it!
The Sonos bug definitely bit me. I have two full ARC systems and a beam with gen 3 sub. I still want to purchase another sub gen 3 and two era 300's for my back patio. lol
I've definitely spent over 5k in Sonos audio.
Haha well I'm glad I'm not alone! It just makes consuming media such a treat... I think it's worth every dollar personally. I understand others don't value quality entertainment, but I sure do. I'm jealous, that sounds amazing!!
@The SAHD Life I have a problem of wanting to buy the best when it comes to tech I'm really interested in. My whole family loves the Sonos adio when they come over. Now I have my brother in law wanting to get a full ARC system for his theater Room so the bug is biting him to.
@@theunkownmr.562 I know right? I love showing off the system and then you can see people thinking *I didn't know it could sound like this?*... then the seed is planted, hehe.
You watched anything that really sounds awesome lately? I've kind of been bouncing around... I mean everything sounds good but I haven't found the main action sequence to show yet.
If u wan beyond average good, then you should be getting ARC instead... The current ultimate is ARC + 2 x Gen3 Subs + 2 x ERA 300...
Oh man I know... that setup you listed would be BANANAS. Sadly I'm not making the big RUclips bucks or sponsorships yet lol. Working on it!!
Yes, I just purchase the arc, gen 3 sub and x2 era 100. Not sure if that setup is correct.
Ohhh that's a SICK setup. Nice!! The only real change I would make would be to buy Era 300's instead of the 100's because they have upward firing speakers which will make the Atmos on movies shine just a little brighter. But the 100's will still sound amazing as surrounds, it just won't have the same height effects.
Have you set it up yet? What do you think!?
Love your videos, but you pair your sub Gen 3 and 2 five with a beam2? No
Haha I wish I had the fives! They are the Play 3s.
Yeah I think the sub might be a little overkill in the group.... For now!!!
Wow!! I thought I was late to the game. Setup: arc, 2 one sl's, and sub gen 3 and now saving my pennies and sale pitch to the bo$$ wife for the era300's to replace the one sl's 🙏🏼
Juicy setup! Did you get the arc and the sub at the same time? Do you notice the atmos sound from the arc much? The beam apparently has it even though it doesn't have the upward firing speakers but I don't really notice anything special besides just sounding good in 5.1
Great summary on who's actually 'need' this Subs, all only you care about the nice bottle of wine.
Thanks for watching. Yeah I guess need is a funny word... I guess when you are this far into the ecosystem it feels like a need! Do you have Sonos speakers?
Im thinking about putting together a 2nd arc system too. In my bedroom
Haha oh baby that would be sweet. I have a Beam gen 2 in our bedroom but since our kid sleeps on the otherwise of the wall I have it on night mode pretty much all the time so I can't blast it!
For now lol.
You thinking maybe some Boxing Day deals?
I am running the Arc with the Ones as surrounds. I’m not sure if I’m willing to spend the money for 300’s for the rears. I recently got a 2nd sub gen 3. It’s completely unnecessary but absolutely legit!
YES! Those subs put out some serious oomph eh? And I know... I'm in the same boat. Do I want the 300's, yup! Do I want to shell out THAT kind of money for them? Nope! I've got some old Play 3's and the Ikea Symphonisks so, they are good enough for now. What speaker would you get next?
@@TheSAHDLife I’m pretty content with my setup. I have another pair of ones for other areas in the house. I have a move also that’s nice to take around the house. Like you said I don’t think I can justify the 300s for surrounds considering we don’t watch a ton of movies. I’m going to be getting a new tv soon with eArc and I’m curious if there will be any noticeable sound difference from the regular arc my tv supports now.
@@wallie004 that will be interesting. If you ever remember to let me know the results please do.
you seem lucky with buying used stuff. which is your favorite site for that? thanks
Craigslist used to be my main but now it's all Facebook Marketplace. It takes awhile to learn the economy for certain items depending on where you live but totally worth it so you can snipe some deals! They happen eventually lol.
Yes, u are correct, the soundbar sound suck if without sub. I bought ARC and don’t feel any special even listen to music only. I do know that without sub will sound like cheapo equipment. 😅
Do you have any other speakers? I would love to have the Five's myself as I mostly listen to music... I think the soundbars are fine but that's not there main purpose. The Five's aren't cheap though! A couple of those paired up with the sub, ohh baby.
@@TheSAHDLife yes, I’ve both one and Five, that why I didn’t buy woofer, abit disappointed that Arc have so many speakers and can’t win Sonos Five. My next budget is Sub then next is Era 300 , then Sub again. Currently I am comparing music not movie. But my next project is my ARC to be Dolby Atmos surround…
@@letdoit I think you said it... the Arc and 300's are not really built for music, so they will fall short when compared to the Five's. But for atmos content / watching movies they will give an experience that's way more immersive. Sounds like you've 'got a great setup!
@@TheSAHDLife I just bought sub 3 pair with Arc. It is so wonderful. I like to watch MTV. The music/songs is a lot better. But my wife watching series show and said nothing ( no improvement sound) lol.
@@letdoit Nice!! It sounds like you are happy.
I just had some friends over this weekend and he complimented the Playbar more than the Arc/Sub combo. I think he was expecting the sub combo to be awesome but wasn't expecting the old soundbar to sound so good for music.
I'm still happy with everything. Going to be reviewing the arc soon!
I can't understand the price tag though, why so high?! I'm sure it's got big bass but I doubt it can compete with SVS subwoofer? Does it hit your chest, like heart pounding or you just feel a little bit of bass on the floor? Can't see how it's justified for that little tiny looking subwoofer.
It is SO expensive but honestly it does hit harder and deeper than I ever would have expected. The only SVS speaker I've heard was a mini-sub... and yes the Sonos one is on another level.
I'm sure it depends on room size and where it's located etc... but I think the added cost is because of how seamlessly it works in the ecosystem. You can pair and use it how you'd like which is great because sometimes I group it together with other speakers in the house and I love that.
I just watched John Wick 4 (again!) last night and the sub never fails to make me smile, especially when it hits those really low notes. It's awesome.
I mean the “the full sonos experience” requires the Arc not the Beam(gen2). Also the rears would have to be upgraded to the era300’s.
Yeah that's definitely the best Sonos has to offer for sure. I have since got the Arc and it's been great. Haven't had a chance to try out the Era speakers yet though. Luckily all the old Sonos stuff still works pretty dang good. I use ALL of my Sonos speakers every day. All 8 of em.
Looks like a real nice sub but for the price I feel like I can get something around the same ish price that has a bit more oomph so I don't think I'd default to this.
You are not wrong. It's just the convenience of the ecosystem that makes it so good. We just moved in to our new space and yesterday I was moving it around experimenting with different places and pairing it with different speakers... Being Wireless is just so handy. I'm glad I bought it used because the full price tag would sting a little too much.
@@TheSAHDLife it's always a good idea to look around, check for used prices vs new and if it's really worth it. Most people with nice quality subs will probably treat them well and good audio and sound products will last for as long as the weakest link, which could be a few years or a few decades so you can usually find good deals with things like this. True the wireless function is very practical and if you go full on Sonos it's even better but I am not sure on this and you can correct me if I'm wrong but are there any physical/analog inputs or is it only wireless, because that is a big deal breaker for people who wouldn't want to go full Sonos setup and only want the sub, if it does or doesn't pair with anything else of course, I'm also not sure about that. In the end, if you're happy with your purchase and you get the most out of it then that's what counts in my mind.
@@ĪĪMizumiĪĪ There are NO other ports. This is an all-in Sonos purchase and I would not recommend it unless you are invested in the ecosystem. The app and the other speakers is what makes this truly stand out. I love the Sonos because the more you buy the better it gets. My house is set up in multiple rooms and it's just the best. If I was buying for just one speaker or so I don't think I would recommend it.
Does the sub move at all on the hardwood floor??
No it doesn't move at ALL, it's crazy. You can put a glass of water on top and you won't even see ripples in the water yet it thumps like gangbusters. So impressed.
@@TheSAHDLife Sweet!
Cant have the full Sonos experience using a beam…you need the arc and 300s as rears
Maaann I know you're right... But Dam is it expensive! I just can't afford it at the moment. But I will say, the half-assed Sonos experience is pretty good!
@@TheSAHDLife I purchased my Sonos set up BEFORE …key word…BEFORE I got married. And now I want to add the 300s as rears to replace my One SL’s. As Single man no problem…as married man..well… no idea how I’m going to pull that off. Im workin on it. wives love the surroundsound theater set up with the huge TV (and if you’re really fancy)Philips hue lighting….they just dont like paying for it.
Hahaha yes you nailed it my friend. Add a couple kids in that mix and my need for total immersion of sound falls pretty low on the priority list... Especially when I'm not making the money 🤣
I have two era 300 and I just got the big one 😮💨
Ohh yeah, I'm jelly. I haven't spent much time with the 300's yet. I'd really love some. They awesome?!
@@TheSAHDLifethey are great but the gen3 was the one I wanted to actually feel it I mean don’t get me wrong you can feel it with the era 300 but I heard from most people that the sub would be what I was looking for
@@optpacheco3372 Yeah I hear you. A nice setup!
What do you have your sub level set at? Recently got a sub that's paired to an Era 100 & I'm a bit underwhelmed at level 0.
Wondering if it's faulty 😢.
Oh yeah, at 0 it's nothing. Usually around 7-9 for movies. Have you cranked it up? Still underwhelmed at 10+?!
@@TheSAHDLife I'm so silly I didn't think to crank it up at all! I'll have to do that when I'm home & report back.
Well what's the verdict? Still underwhelmed?! @@MichaelPalmerShadyRumbler
@@TheSAHDLife it was the settings! Turned up to 6 the sub audio is fantastic 😍 So glad I've figured it out & can now fully appreciate it's power. Thanks for your help.
Glad you took the leap haha!!
Me too! This thing makes me smile every time I enter the room and hear the boom We've had people living under us for years... now that we don't, I'm lovin' da bass! 👊
This is why i have dual subs
That must thump! I haven't heard that set up before.
@@TheSAHDLife if youre into movies - era 300s and dual subs slap hard. The first 30mins of Dune on 4k disc is outstanding on this system.
@garretts431 I don't quite have that set up but that's a good reminder to rewatch that movie. I don't think I even saw it on my setup. Good call👊
@@TheSAHDLife yeah check it out! Definitely a reminder for me that money was well spent. Cant wait for the sonos arc 2 to release this year!
It would be great to hear your views on the Sonos Era 300 vs Play:3 as rears. Thanks!
I would LOVE to review them but sadly I've used up my SAHD budget on the sub! lol. The downside of being a small creator is I don't get access to this stuff ahead of time and have to buy it with my own money. From what I can tell, the 300's do make fantastic surrounds if you are interested in atmos content... but for me, I listen to music way more than I watch movies/shows/play games, so if I had the opportunity to buy more speakers I'd probably get the Fives instead.
Are you thinking about picking some up?
Have a Sonos beam gen 2. Would you recommend the sub mini or one of the new era products to compliment it?
This is a good question. I would say the sub-mini.
The bass just adds a layer you won't get from anything else. In the meantime, get some cheap used 3's or Ikea bookshelf speakers from Marketplace to give you the surround.
Here's my logic... the Beam does have atmos but it doesn't have upward firing speakers, so if you're looking to add it to that system, it won't really compliment it.
IF you're looking to put that speaker in a different room though as a standalone speaker, I mean you'll get a lot more flexibility which is very cool if you get the 300.
If you're pairing them together in 1 room, get the sub-mini. If you want music in another room also, then get the 300.
The sub mini or Gen 3 sub is a perfect addition to add first. The sub will take the low bass and mid range bass away from the Beam. The Beam can then concentrate on mids, highs, and dialogue for a even crisper sound and improved clarity. I like surrounds; but, not everything uses surround sound compared to low/mid bass. I sometimes don't hear my rears; except, in background music for dialogue heavy shows, news, or reality TV. I have 4 IKEA Symfonisk bookshelf speakers and 2 One SLs as my rear surrounds for my 3 Beams and they work perfectly for me (2 Beams with Gen 3 Sub+surrounds and 1 Beam with surrounds only).
Has anyone tested Sonos Subs vs conventional for how much the bass transmits through walls-like to neighbors? They certainly rattle and vibrate less, and I feel like it’s just the air moving without all the usual “solid matter” vibration, so… I guess I’ll wait and see if the neighbor ever complains. lol
Good question! I've had both but never ran that test. Although yesterday we just setup the theater room and cranked up the sub/speakers then ran outside to see how loud it was. It surprisingly wasn't that bad! I don't think the neighbors will complain over here. The house seems to be built pretty well though, but when the windows are closed it was pretty quiet out there. I doubt you'd be able to hear it through another wall.
@@TheSAHDLife I think “neighbor friendly” is a selling point sonos should market, but would love to see some testing. Subjectively, I agree. Much less rattle/vibration = less transmission through walls.
It's funny you spent a sizable amount of airtime to justify buying a $900 piece of equipment that can only output lower frequencies. Trust me, I've been there too haha. I totally get you. And with that thinking, I can already see your Beam being replaced by the Arc soon. :P
When I had the Beam, I spent weeks watching RUclips reviews of the Arc until one day I decided, enough is enough. I can't watch these videos any longer and I eventually succumbed to the temptation. Welcome to the Sonos ecosystem!
Right? I was bitten by the bug hard. Trying to make up for lost time as quick as possible...
So we are moving in 3 weeks and won't get into our new home for another 5 weeks after that... I want the Arc, for sure... but I'll wait to see exactly what I need in terms of size in our new space. Jeez, I want another sub, the arc, some 5's... lol. What did I get myself into??
You think the 5's are still the way to go for music?
great emotions, man)
👊 really appreciate the comment!
You have to get the Arc now..and you have the space under your TV lol
I know you're right.
This room is huge. But we're moving in 3 weeks and won't be in our next house until 5 weeks AFTER that. So it'll be 2 months until we're settled. But then... Bwahahaha!
What other speakers do you have? Any favs? I'm just so curious about the 5's even though they seem old. I imagine that will be the next speaker getting an upgrade eh?
When are you going to order your 2nd Sub Gen. 3?
Haha you read my mind. My first thought *and I can't believe it was my actual FIRST thought* when I was testing this out was "it sounds so cool, I bet 2 would sound even better".
Do you have the arc / sub / 300's combo? No regrets?
@@TheSAHDLife No, I have the Beam Gen. 2, One SL's and Sub Gen. 3. I don't think I'll update for now as I'm happy with the sound.
@@jasperverkroost yeah that's a nice setup. I'm sure it would be amazing to have the latest and greatest but that's just so much money. I buy all of my stuff used so I'll wait and scope the deals!
@@TheSAHDLife The thing for me is that I have an older television that does not support Atmos, so currently I'm saving up for a new tv first.
Ok, I'm definitely buying Sonos stuff
Ohhh yeah! If you need any tips on what to buy or what to put where let me know! I love chatting this stuff 👊
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Great video. Subbed :)
Thanks! I really appreciate it 👊
Are you team Sonos or still just thinking about it? lol
@@TheSAHDLife I've already got the Arc but I'm looking to get the whole immersion set eventually but the Gen 3 is just as much as an Arc :(
Well at least the Arc can rock pretty much everything and do it well. It seems like a good buy.
I can't complain about the Beam, for its size it puts out a lot of sound. I guess I like that it is pretty compact. The arc is quite big isn't it?
But yeah one day hopefully we can get full systems decked right out 👊
Also have you found any particular shows or movies that really sound good on it yet?
@@TheSAHDLife I went ahead and bought the Gen 3 right after I finished watching your review on it lol.
I have my Arc hooked up to my LG C1 & my gaming pc and some games sound crazy good. Such as when I played God of War 2018 and I heard the world serpent speak gave me chills. It's a very great product.
@@huicho50able Haha wow, that's a sick setup. Do those OLED monitors work well with a PC hooked up? No noticeable delay??
And AMAZING... you gotta let me know what you think once you set it all up, I can't wait to hear. I am super jelly!
Hi i have sonos gen 3 sub. along with ark and play Sl rears . my brother in law came around to listen , he says he didn't realise on how crap is system sounds now .
Haha you planted an expensive seed in him that will grow and grow.
But seriously it's hard to go into other people's spaces and listen on their TV speakers or crappy sound bar.... I get that it's not a priority for other people. But boy is it sure nice to have
My setup is 2 sonos era 300 one sub gen 3 and one beam 2 it works amesing.
Beauty!! Oh I am jealous! How do the 300's sound, are they cool? I know they are very spatial, does music sound decent on them?
@@TheSAHDLife Yeay before i had 2 sonos one s and a beam as set up but now with the era 300 is way beter because the high parts birds or space ships veel more real and it feels like it is going over your head. Also is the bass way better more punchie also is there more sound stage.
@@cloudspecs3864 Can't 'wait to try it for myself. The beam apparently has Atmos but I can't really notice it since it doesn't have actual upwards firing speakers.
One day!
@@TheSAHDLife Haha first i can not hear the diverens but ones i add the era 300 i hear it way better and it gives real armos sound. way better than before sorry for my bad english.
Hello just subscribe to your channel,owned 6 different subs in 25 years and the sonos subs for my taste and my needs is the best.I said SUBS bec i have a dual subs with the Arc and two sonos one sl as surrounds.i saw if first las 2010 but its damn expensive!untill last dec 2000 i bought two of it and boom!i will never go back to a wired system,dont get me wrong wired system are really good but i love my sonos..
Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel! And yeah I agree with you. If you have the space for the receiver and are able to hide the wires, sure... but if you can afford it and appreciate having a great soundstage there's nothing quite like the Sonos. I'm happy I finally got some. Dual subs... haha that's awesome. Jealous!
You happy with the arc? I bet it's great.
Your welcome,you deserve more subscrber than you have.Thanks to you also.Im really happy with the Arc,specially now That i use the HD FURY ARCANA to get TRUE HD ATMOS,usIng the APPLE TV.If before im really happy with my ARC,now im even more than happy.Lets be honest WIRED atmos cinema is better?yes,but what we get with sonos wirelessly?its awsome,but here is the most important for me,clarity,my ear doesnt hurt in hours and hours of loud movies haha compared to my previous wires DENON atmos system.SUB GEN 3?what else can i ask for?no distorsion at all,no rattle sound of the box of the subwoofers,the sonos sub?put the volume to max and you cant here a single undesired noise.LASTLY THE ARC IF WE ALL HAVE ATMOS LOSELESS CONTENT WHERE IT REALLY SHINES..
@@juanvalera7272 You said it friend! It's the wireless that just makes it so good and easy to recommend. Plus like you mentioned you can crank it and it doesn't rattle everything, it just sounds good.
Appreciate the support! You have any favorite movies / shows / music to blast on your system??
@@TheSAHDLifesorry to just answering you now really busy lately,for me BLADE RUNNER is the best,Also Maverick,End game,Ant man 😂😂😂 with music now i dont have atmos music but with the sonos app i love jazz and blues where there are those bass and guitars hehe.Planning to buy the era 300s for surrounds maybe next month or in August.Anyways because o love watching movies,been my hobby since we have those vhs 😂😂then came dvds with those ac3 prologic 😂😂😂and now with atmos?imagine how am i now enjoying it like never before😂😂hava a good day
@@juanvalera7272 Haha no problem. That's awesome! Appreciate the suggestions. I bet those 300's will sound so good. I'm jealous! Enjoy!
Hi sir do we need an apple device to setup
Na, you don't. I'm Android user and I set mine up and it sounds good. My wife does have an apple so I ended up using the true play on hers but to be honest it didn't sound any better and I ended up switching it to manual control anyway. So no you don't need Apple in my opinion
@@TheSAHDLife thanks 👍
I.O.S. Trueplay helps adjust the Sonos home theater system (with or without subs and/or surrounds) to your room environment and optimal sitting position. Every room is completely different along with Sonos speaker types, placement, furniture, ceiling height, sound absorbing/reflecting materials, and listening preferences. The I.O.S. Trueplay helps even out those factors for a neutral sounding system you can adjust from there. I.O.S. Trueplay isn't necessary; but, doesn't hurt either.
Sonos stand alone devices with built-in mics with Trueplay that works with Android only adjust the speaker(s) at their location; not, at your optimal listing position or entire room environment. That works great for portable Sonos speakers you move around.
i have the itch to buy 2 era 300s
Oh me too, but that is no small bill.
Would you just use in a theatre setup or have them for music around the house?
@@TheSAHDLife Theater
Yeah I think if you have the arc then it might be worth doing. I only have the beam so I think I would probably want to upgrade the arc first...
ARC ARC ARC Let’s Go 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha right?!!!
Here's the thing, I have music on more than I watch movies for now.
Would you still recommend the arc or maybe some fives? Just curious!
For music…without question, two fives would sound superior to one Arc when each is paired with a gen 3.
@@arniesilverberg764 Right? And I have music on all the time... I guess you COULD use two 5's with a tv but then you might need the amp or something.
I will always have a soundbar which I could pair up but I'm just thinking of the next speakers hehe. It'll be awhile before I save up for either the Arc or something else.... though I imagine they will replace the 5's within the next year or so?
I can relate! #speakeritch
👊 you'd think the itch would go away after you buy a speaker or two!!! Haha, nope! I'm not going to lie, a pair of the 300's would be so insane... but jeez they're expensive.
Then ERA 300 (2) 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh baby I would love that so much. Sadly I'm not quite there yet with my channel where I'm getting access or successful enough to buy those new lol.. I'm still buying things used to save a few bucks. Have you had a chance to listen to them? Do they sound pretty sweet? To be honest I'm more drawn to the fives as I listen to music more and not necessarily atmos content
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Right?! LOVE the speakers. HATE the new app.
Sonos superrr, app 💩💩💩💩😡