As a 42 year old , lifetime music lover , guitar player , classic rock nerd etc …. I’m just finally getting into Roy’s music and he’s definitely in the top 5 of all time …. Not because of his technical skill either … I think we can all agree that it’s the feel of the phrasing and style it’s played that makes guys like Roy absolute legends !!
Roy Buchanan is my favorite Guitar player and the Master of the Telecaster. I first saw Roy at Alex Cooley's electric ballroom in Atlanta Georgia,in 1973?, it was filmed and recorded and you can still find it on RUclips. He could make his Telecaster talk.He invented more technical harmonics accidentally than anyone did on purpose. And the best guitar players copied him. I'm a retired guitar teacher in Nashville,Tn. I owned the largest Guitar School in Nashville for many years. When my students reached the highest level it's Roy Buchanan style that I teach. Natural Harmonics.
I still remember Roy playing The Messiah Will Come Again at the Keystone in Palo Alto at 1:00 AM for about 50 people. It was a transcendent almost religious experience..
Roy stands alone at the top of the mountain. He's beyond anything I've ever heard ...been listening to Rock / Blues / Jazz since the early 60 s and thought I had seen some of the greatest. Roy Buchanan is just astounding. Skill unmatched by ANYONE in the business. So sad to see his life cut short. Didn't start checking him out until about 15 months ago on You Tube. I can't even listen to anyone else .save Jeff Beck . He will be rediscovered and praised now through this medium for many many years to come. Your still with us Big Roy. I rate him head and shoulders over EVERYONE ELSE
The tone, the taste, the uniqueness of his phrasing mark him out as a superb musician. No one wrung more out of a Telecaster than Roy. Where others prance and preen around the stage, Roy just stood there and played. Another point is, look where he wore his guitar, up high where he could see everything, a brilliant object lesson for any guitarist.
The way he played Misty is one of the most unique and memorable versions I've ever heard on guitar. His blending of notes and highly nuanced bends were all in very special places as only Buchanan could do it. I can see where Danny Gatton got a lot of his stuff.
Tambourine man wants to break free and send his wrists and neck spinning up and out into space. He's one animated automaton. And his tambourine is just limiting him so, so very much, poor prodigy that he is! He is so very much more talented than the instrument they relegated him to, could possibly indicate, by itself, no matter how much rhythm he nonverbally screams that we notice!!! Therefore, he simply must, must, MUST show us with THE TANTRUMESQUE flopping of his wrists and head. Even if that means he must bear the burden of having to use almost epileptic body language "show up" and grab audience attiontion away from all the other musicians on the stage. He just can't allow himself to be denied!!!! King 👶 baby tambourine man! Let's all be the mommy and daddy he never had and focus on him, rather than Roy or the other musicians, ok? OK! Quick! Someone change king baby's diaper!
I saw him 3 times- once in a small club- everyone just stopped froze and let those piecing notes go right through us- he prowled the stage just a few feet back and forth but his gaze was like a panther. I can still feel it. When he played messiah and those mournful wail notes hit- people wept and cried out loud.
Reportedly the MOST requested program in PBS history. For whatever reason, it has never been legitimately released nor properly restored. Buchanan at this point[November ,1971] is not that far removed from his residency at Bladensburg ,Maryland's Crossroads Club. The band seen here is the same one as heard on his self released "Burlap Bag" album which was then virtually rerecorded when he signed with Polydor in the wake of this special, first aired in November "71. For people in The Metro WDC area and particularly PG County at that time, the airing of this show was a localized version of the Beatles 2/9/64 Sullivan Show. Anyone in the area who was into music or had seen Roy was glued to the TV that night. Over forty years on, this broadcast was an important event for many people in the WDC area and is fondly remembered as a defining moment for the area's musicians.
Great to see this video. I was only introduced to Roy later on by an older family member and managed to get a lot of his records. His version of Down be the River is astonishing. No doubt, one of the best. RIP.
Roy will always rank very high for originality and mostly for pouring out his soul to an audience that had never heard that kind of tonality playing before. The lead he did on Them Changes was one of the best I've ever heard him do but then most of what he did was stellar. I loved the live show he did at the end of the video, which I had never seen. The home videos were an added bonus. He should have been a household name but still he will always be remembered by those who knew him as one of the best of that time period, a true innovator and inspiration to all.
Thank you so much for putting this on U Tube. I have been preaching for years Roy as one of the iconic guitarist, not well known. I am going to have to dig some vinyl of his to play for my 30 year old son in law. Also knowing more of his history is amazing. Thank you again ❤️🙏
Such a great guy! Such a wonderful guitarist. Definitely underrated. So sad he's gone. There can never be another Roy Buchanan. Everyone that is interested in guitar should see this! Totally made my day!Thanks for posting!
I have a bootleg VHS of this show in B/W and poor quality so thanks for uploading.😊An older musician friend asked me the other day if I had heard of Roy Buchanan ?Without saying a word I pulled out a guitar case next to me and out came my well played but not as old and worn Fender Telecaster same as Roy’s.His jaw dropped😂
Mr. Buchanan had some real patience! Love ya Nils. Saw this tele of his at Norms Rare guitars - for sale. He said he got it from a guy who got it from a family member. Cool stories about him seeing a guy walk past RB's barber shop - when he was giving a haircut - with a tele that RB suddenly intuited he had to have. Story that RB wired Danny Gatton's tele. Just trivia, but one interesting, driven, cat.
5:00 (if I'm not mistaken) you will get a look at Bill Graham, one of the most important forces in the entire history of rock music in the United States. Kids, do yourself a service and read a little about him. And look at a list of concerts at the Fillmore East and Fillmore West. You will rightfully be stunned.
A man’s journey of leaving his fathers house and going out into the world to make something of himself. Hopefully I can do the same thing for myself and make a name for myself like Roy did.
cool that roy and shuggie otis shared a stage at one point. shuggie did one of my favorite guitar solos ever recorded and roy has a couple of my favorites
Nice seeing this...I remember when this first came out on pbs ch.13 in NY....I was mesmerized at the harmonics squealing unreal playing and tone of Roy....became a fan after seeing this .saw him live a few times but he was using a 70's stratocaster still got pinch harmonics but nothing to his telecaster named "Nancy".
Imagine letting your boy go out into the world at 15 to chase his dream, his mission in life, & being that boy. Amazing & a different time. Incredible story & an.
I think it’s Fred McDowell tune with Johnny and Shuggie Otis. Watching how much fun both of them are having listening and playing off of Roy is all I need to see.
A dream concert for me would be Roy , Danny Gatton , James Burton , Albert Lee, Clarence White and Vince Gill for starters. If they were all alive and in their prime. I love the sound of the Telecaster . And I'm sure there are many more I can't think remember sorry about that.
@@raidrfrk Good suggestion, Rory always played his beat up Strat. But I am sure he played a Tele too. I loved his early albums,Taste and his early solo music. He was really at his best live.
the song By The Time I Get To Phoenix ( arrangement ) version is fantastic , is somebody knows the name of the singer guitar player on that, i made a search in the Buchanan career and nothing found, maybe he been there for a short time and not recorded with them ?
The number one thing about Roy was he played to impress himself. You can picture him sitting on his couch playing and he's trying a myriad of different techniques just to amuse himself. The personae you see on stage was there to show you what he found out that impressed himself and should also impress you, or not. I don't think he cared. He played to beat himself to the finish line.
What an embarrassing moment for Nils Lofgren. Suddenly got the idea that it was all about him and couldn't let it go. When Roy starts detuning, well that says it all. Good grief.
Many guitar players these days won't be able to hold a candle to him. Roy may had demons he couldn't escape but he simply was a machine on that ax. A true guitarist we'll never see the likes again.
unfortunately, or fortunately if you admire Nils Lofgren/Grin, Nils sort of steals the limelight from Roy when they play together - Nils at that time was a guitarist's guitarist, and had a thousand times more charisma - glad it was made, but afraid some kid might walk away under-appreciating Roy - who was "just" a musician - not a 'star' - if you want to see him in his own element, see the Live at Austin, Texas TV performance from 1976
Nils tries to steal the limelight, but fails. He hogged the stage trying to look better than Buchanan, but he didn't do it for me. He tried to drown Roy out, but it didn't work. Lofgren didn't better Buchanan during that gig, no way!
Nils ,dosnt steal the limelight he says himself he was so nervous,and is embarrassed by the way he played to this day,I love nils playing and more importantly his music ,but this is not his finest moment,but.Roy Buchanan was his hero ,and it's great to have this record of the playing together.
Nils was so young & already in one of the top rock bands in Grin & in this Roy let him do his thing & Nils didn't try to steal the show as he knew Roy was the best & any guitarist given the chance to cut loose while Roy lets him, well who the hell wouldn't take that gift. What Nils took from this stayed with him to this day & he's learned to be as humble as Roy was & he is one hell of a player after all these years. I grew up not far form where his folks lived in Garret Park & met him & Tommy many times. He never tried to out shine Roy no one could do that & as much as Nils was a showman he pretty much just stands there & he's young so he overplays but all the while he;s learning & when he looks at Roy you see the admiration shine in those eyes. The boy was a star then & he still is.
When Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones died....Roy would have been Brians replacement...had he (Roy) had not passed out in a studio's recording board on heroin.
I don't see why Bill Graham felt a need to lay out a pound of blow for every musician that came down the pike. Roy is so high he is hardly connected to the guitar. Same with The Last Waltz. Pure Bump, Blow and Bull.
Dear white. I'm the foul mouthed loser? Have someone read what I wrote, incapable as you are of reading, much less constructing a coherent thought, sentence, fragment or even an effective argument. Roy was a great artist who, along with an entire generation, wasted themselves and their talents, ( put aside his hungry children), on kicking the gong around and swilling booze. Sound familiar? Hung himself out of self pity in a county jail. Sound familiar? Courage white, there will be more like him for you "to know', and your meaningless drool down your chin will show the way forward.
If only Roy could have understood how much religion has hurt this world over the ages and will continue to do so until folk wise up and understand there is no great god in the sky.
Why he never became famous? Wrong beard, wrong haircut, wrong clothes…it‘s sad, but even in those times of hippie nonconformity these were three „good“ reasons to fail.
he never became famous because he couldn’t sing or write songs worth a damn. It also didnt help that he had his own personal problems and demons he dealt with.
Culturally significant. The future generations will thank you for putting this on RUclips
Neil's was good but the rest was kind of dry
As a 42 year old , lifetime music lover , guitar player , classic rock nerd etc …. I’m just finally getting into Roy’s music and he’s definitely in the top 5 of all time …. Not because of his technical skill either … I think we can all agree that it’s the feel of the phrasing and style it’s played that makes guys like Roy absolute legends !!
Roy Buchanan is my favorite Guitar player and the Master of the Telecaster. I first saw Roy at Alex Cooley's electric ballroom in Atlanta Georgia,in 1973?, it was filmed and recorded and you can still find it on RUclips. He could make his Telecaster talk.He invented more technical harmonics accidentally than anyone did on purpose. And the best guitar players copied him. I'm a retired guitar teacher in Nashville,Tn. I owned the largest Guitar School in Nashville for many years. When my students reached the highest level it's Roy Buchanan style that I teach. Natural Harmonics.
Neil's was good but the rest was kind of dry
I still remember Roy playing The Messiah Will Come Again at the Keystone in Palo Alto at 1:00 AM for about 50 people. It was a transcendent almost religious experience..
Imagine going to church and Roy Buchanan is in the band on guitar.
That introduction is not hyperbole. This is one of the greatest.
Neil's was good but the rest was kind of dry
That comb-over is legendary as well.
and he was a barber!
@@garcdonald I thought he was a hairdresser, lol.
Just one of the best,on a short list,sure miss him,and his Telecasting soul
Roy stands alone at the top of the mountain. He's beyond anything I've ever heard ...been listening to Rock / Blues / Jazz since the early 60 s and thought I had seen some of the greatest. Roy Buchanan is just astounding. Skill unmatched by ANYONE in the business. So sad to see his life cut short. Didn't start checking him out until about 15 months ago on You Tube. I can't even listen to anyone else .save Jeff Beck . He will be rediscovered and praised now through this medium for many many years to come. Your still with us Big Roy. I rate him head and shoulders over EVERYONE ELSE
The tone, the taste, the uniqueness of his phrasing mark him out as a superb musician. No one wrung more out of a Telecaster than Roy. Where others prance and preen around the stage, Roy just stood there and played. Another point is, look where he wore his guitar, up high where he could see everything, a brilliant object lesson for any guitarist.
"wrung" is right. The best.
La verdad es un monstruo de lo mejor que he escuchado como guitarrista..porque nadie lo valora? Ahora bien después de Hendrix hay muchos
Better than Eric Clapton
The way he played Misty is one of the most unique and memorable versions I've ever heard on guitar. His blending of notes and highly nuanced bends were all in very special places as only Buchanan could do it. I can see where Danny Gatton got a lot of his stuff.
Tambourine man wants to break free and send his wrists and neck spinning up and out into space.
He's one animated automaton. And his tambourine is just limiting him so, so very much, poor prodigy that he is! He is so very much more talented than the instrument they relegated him to, could possibly indicate, by itself, no matter how much rhythm he nonverbally screams that we notice!!! Therefore, he simply must, must, MUST show us with THE TANTRUMESQUE flopping of his wrists and head. Even if that means he must bear the burden of having to use almost epileptic body language "show up" and grab audience attiontion away from all the other musicians on the stage. He just can't allow himself to be denied!!!! King 👶 baby tambourine man! Let's all be the mommy and daddy he never had and focus on him, rather than Roy or the other musicians, ok? OK! Quick! Someone change king baby's diaper!
Honestly I keep coming back to this because it’s just so incredible. What a masterclass in perfect guitar playing.
I saw him 3 times- once in a small club- everyone just stopped froze and let those piecing notes go right through us- he prowled the stage just a few feet back and forth but his gaze was like a panther. I can still feel it. When he played messiah and those mournful wail notes hit- people wept and cried out loud.
Great history coverage of Roy Buchanan. Haunting coverage ~ so good!!!!
Very much so.
Reportedly the MOST requested program in PBS history.
For whatever reason, it has never been legitimately released nor properly restored.
Buchanan at this point[November ,1971] is not that far removed from his residency at Bladensburg ,Maryland's Crossroads Club.
The band seen here is the same one as heard on his self released "Burlap Bag" album which was then virtually rerecorded when he signed with Polydor in the wake of this special, first aired in November "71.
For people in The Metro WDC area and particularly PG County at that time, the airing of this show was a localized version of the Beatles 2/9/64 Sullivan Show. Anyone in the area who was into music or had seen Roy was glued to the TV that night.
Over forty years on, this broadcast was an important event for many people in the WDC area and is fondly remembered as a defining moment for the area's musicians.
Great to see this video. I was only introduced to Roy later on by an older family member and managed to get a lot of his records. His version of Down be the River is astonishing. No doubt, one of the best. RIP.
One of a kind, a genius. He sounds like no one else, still fresh today
Roy will always rank very high for originality and mostly for pouring out his soul to an audience that had never heard that kind of tonality playing before. The lead he did on Them Changes was one of the best I've ever heard him do but then most of what he did was stellar. I loved the live show he did at the end of the video, which I had never seen. The home videos were an added bonus. He should have been a household name but still he will always be remembered by those who knew him as one of the best of that time period, a true innovator and inspiration to all.
Roy Playing Misty For Me’ with Mundel Lowe’ is best version I’ve heard’!!!! Truly like Lenny Breau’ Roy was Heaven sent. RIP Roy Buchannon ❤️🇺🇸
Thank you so much for putting this on U Tube. I have been preaching for years Roy as one of the iconic guitarist, not well known. I am going to have to dig some vinyl of his to play for my 30 year old son in law. Also knowing more of his history is amazing. Thank you again ❤️🙏
One of the best if not the Best, I listened to him Then and Now I know why. Thanks for posting!!! RIP
R.I.P roy you were awesome.🎸🎸
Nobody even compare he was a real man humble guitarist. even the past main stream players hold Mr.Roy Buchanan as the most amazing guitar players💔🎩🇺🇸🎸
Such a great guy! Such a wonderful guitarist. Definitely underrated. So sad he's gone. There can never be another Roy Buchanan. Everyone that is interested in guitar should see this! Totally made my day!Thanks for posting!
I know there is no “best” guitarist. But Roy was the best.
BRAVO. HE HAD TALENT ON LOAN FROM THE BIG G
I have a bootleg VHS of this show in B/W and poor quality so thanks for uploading.😊An older musician friend asked me the other day if I had heard of Roy Buchanan ?Without saying a word I pulled out a guitar case next to me and out came my well played but not as old and worn Fender Telecaster same as Roy’s.His jaw dropped😂
Watching him with Merle Haggard, explains why Roy, does such a killer job of lonesome fugitive........🎵❤️❤️❤️🎶
Mr. Buchanan had some real patience! Love ya Nils. Saw this tele of his at Norms Rare guitars - for sale. He said he got it from a guy who got it from a family member. Cool stories about him seeing a guy walk past RB's barber shop - when he was giving a haircut - with a tele that RB suddenly intuited he had to have. Story that RB wired Danny Gatton's tele. Just trivia, but one interesting, driven, cat.
my friend I grew up with was Patsy's Cline son, turned me on to Roy's music around 2005, I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
5:00 (if I'm not mistaken) you will get a look at Bill Graham, one of the most important forces in the entire history of rock music in the United States. Kids, do yourself a service and read a little about him. And look at a list of concerts at the Fillmore East and Fillmore West. You will rightfully be stunned.
A man’s journey of leaving his fathers house and going out into the world to make something of himself. Hopefully I can do the same thing for myself and make a name for myself like Roy did.
cool that roy and shuggie otis shared a stage at one point. shuggie did one of my favorite guitar solos ever recorded and roy has a couple of my favorites
Still have the “We Are Not Alone” hand mirror they gave to everyone at his show.
Thanks, man!! Thank you very much for making this available!!
It's like he decided he'd have all of his worthwhile conversations through his guitar.
Pure Genius of a guitar
Good Lord my jaws hurt so bad.
Damn
He’s geeked on that coke.
I know the feeling and it's horrible.
Only way to crank out the blues 🤣
Nice seeing this...I remember when this first came out on pbs ch.13 in NY....I was mesmerized at the harmonics squealing unreal playing and tone of Roy....became a fan after seeing this .saw him live a few times but he was using a 70's stratocaster still got pinch harmonics but nothing to his telecaster named "Nancy".
Listening to the man talking about his life and art, I can't help but hear echoes of Townes Van Zandt--I wonder if they ever met and played together?
Imagine letting your boy go out into the world at 15 to chase his dream, his mission in life, & being that boy. Amazing & a different time. Incredible story & an.
Nothing like uncle roy, sharp and clear
I think it’s Fred McDowell tune with Johnny and Shuggie Otis. Watching how much fun both of them are having listening and playing off of Roy is all I need to see.
I remember this from my teenage years.
He was God’s gift to this world.
He made the walls cry teaes when he played with his emotions
He was sooo great
Ozark AR - That's his home town.
amazing amazing amazing guitarist. better than most if not all the heroes from that time.
really beautiful guitar playin"
Saw Roy Buchanan twice in the seventies simply great
A dream concert for me would be Roy , Danny Gatton , James Burton , Albert Lee, Clarence White and Vince Gill for starters. If they were all alive and in their prime. I love the sound of the Telecaster . And I'm sure there are many more I can't think remember sorry about that.
Rory Gallagher plus Mike Bloomfield
@@raidrfrk Good suggestion, Rory always played his beat up Strat. But I am sure he played a Tele too. I loved his early albums,Taste and his early solo music. He was really at his best live.
Scotty Anderson.
You're welcome😉
roy would phone the bar where gatton was playing and listen in. Got a lot of stuff there.
thx so much.
the song By The Time I Get To Phoenix ( arrangement ) version is fantastic , is somebody knows the name of the singer guitar player on that, i made a search in the Buchanan career and nothing found, maybe he been there for a short time and not recorded with them ?
The number one thing about Roy was he played to impress himself. You can picture him sitting on his couch playing and he's trying a myriad of different techniques just to amuse himself. The personae you see on stage was there to show you what he found out that impressed himself and should also impress you, or not. I don't think he cared. He played to beat himself to the finish line.
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he bends those strings like no one else
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What an embarrassing moment for Nils Lofgren. Suddenly got the idea that it was all about him and couldn't let it go. When Roy starts detuning, well that says it all. Good grief.
I wonder if any of his kids became musicians.
Stevie Ray must have gotten a little of this too.
Best ever. No question... I just creamed myself.
Join the club brother. Listen to him each morning and every night .. calms this savage beast like no one else God he was Something Else!!!
I would have kept going to church if Roy would have been playing the hymms.
The best guitarist ever.
FIRTS SONG IT´S "AFTER HOURS"
Best hired gun on the planet
s~earching for musician's musicians.
Many guitar players these days won't be able to hold a candle to him. Roy may had demons he couldn't escape but he simply was a machine on that ax. A true guitarist we'll never see the likes again.
It's still beautiful, though.
ROY
Roy didn't invent the blues. He just played em' like nobody else can...🫡
Sometimes his bends go right over the other side of the neck! crazy
jeff beck was here.
29:57 music name ? before misty.
11:38 goodness me... 😎🤠
Is that Bill Graham introducing Roy?
unfortunately, or fortunately if you admire Nils Lofgren/Grin, Nils sort of steals the limelight from Roy when they play together - Nils at that time was a guitarist's guitarist, and had a thousand times more charisma - glad it was made, but afraid some kid might walk away under-appreciating Roy - who was "just" a musician - not a 'star' - if you want to see him in his own element, see the Live at Austin, Texas TV performance from 1976
Nils tries to steal the limelight, but fails. He hogged the stage trying to look better than Buchanan, but he didn't do it for me. He tried to drown Roy out, but it didn't work. Lofgren didn't better Buchanan during that gig, no way!
Nils ,dosnt steal the limelight he says himself he was so nervous,and is embarrassed by the way he played to this day,I love nils playing and more importantly his music ,but this is not his finest moment,but.Roy Buchanan was his hero ,and it's great to have this record of the playing together.
Nils was so young & already in one of the top rock bands in Grin & in this Roy let him do his thing & Nils didn't try to steal the show as he knew Roy was the best & any guitarist given the chance to cut loose while Roy lets him, well who the hell wouldn't take that gift. What Nils took from this stayed with him to this day & he's learned to be as humble as Roy was & he is one hell of a player after all these years. I grew up not far form where his folks lived in Garret Park & met him & Tommy many times. He never tried to out shine Roy no one could do that & as much as Nils was a showman he pretty much just stands there & he's young so he overplays but all the while he;s learning & when he looks at Roy you see the admiration shine in those eyes. The boy was a star then & he still is.
If only the other greats could ha was cooked out with Roy.
When Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones died....Roy would have been Brians replacement...had he (Roy) had not passed out in a studio's recording board on heroin.
Gary Moore took a lot from him.
I don't see why Bill Graham felt a need to lay out a pound of blow for every musician that came down the pike. Roy is so high he is hardly connected to the guitar. Same with The Last Waltz. Pure Bump, Blow and Bull.
Lol true,it’s a tad embarrassing I’d say.
Charles peterson Oh yeah, much greater guitarists around these days. Roy was one with his guitar. Phenomenal. FUCKING IDIOT ! YOU KNOW SHIT.
Lay off the bump chump.
Dear white. I'm the foul mouthed loser? Have someone read what I wrote, incapable as you are of reading, much less constructing a coherent thought, sentence, fragment or even an effective argument. Roy was a great artist who, along with an entire generation, wasted themselves and their talents, ( put aside his hungry children), on kicking the gong around and swilling booze. Sound familiar? Hung himself out of self pity in a county jail. Sound familiar? Courage white, there will be more like him for you "to know', and your meaningless drool down your chin will show the way forward.
Charles peterson
You are a delusional sociopath and don't have the vaguest notion of what you are talking about. I hope you rot in hell for your sins.
Roy was a great guitar player and one weird dude.
He could bend three strings with vareing amount
Roy hadda take it to the absurd to get Niels to STFU.
If only Roy could have understood how much religion has hurt this world over the ages and will continue to do so until folk wise up and understand there is no great god in the sky.
It's the Amish dude from kingpin!
Go to 49:00, and settle in for a long cry.
And if you know how the story ends, you will understand.
Why he never became famous? Wrong beard, wrong haircut, wrong clothes…it‘s sad, but even in those times of hippie nonconformity these were three „good“ reasons to fail.
He was very popular in Japan. He didn't like the main stream and turned Mick Jagger down to replace Brian Jones.
he never became famous because he couldn’t sing or write songs worth a damn. It also didnt help that he had his own personal problems and demons he dealt with.
Danny Gatton wanna be.
Just unreal,,much missed Roy.
Neil's was good but the rest was kind of dry