My favourite The Doctor: I don't know what happened to you; but there can be any number of explanations: hallucination, telepathic communication from another race, repressed memory, momentary contact with a parallel reality - take your pick. The universe is such a strange place. The resigned way he says it, the Doctor almost seems to break the fourth wall.
Something I didn't appreciate at the time I first started watching Voyager was that Janeway was unusually well suited to her ship. Every command meeting is a demonstration that she's a Science Officer's captain, and knowing that she was nearly a pefect fit for her particular vessel makes the show hang together more. Relates more to SGA that way.
One thing I rarely see mentioned is just how good the Bio-Neural gel packs were at allowing the ship to act almost autonomously. In the episode 'Workforce' we see the ECH giving orders to the ships computer to engage in combat sans the entire crew. Remember that this is functionally the ship giving orders to itself, with no organic mind present to oversee.
I've always loved the Intrepid class's design. It and the sovereign are probably my favorite ship types for the federation. Sleek but keeping the same style the series is known for
I agree. I grew up with VOY and the post-First Contact works like the Activision continuity so the Sovereign is one of my favorites. I was personally never a fan of the old Starfleet designs, especially since the neck between the saucer and drive section looks vulnerable.
@@chrissonofpear1384 Luna class just looks like a Miranda and Akira got smooshed together. The Achilles just looks like it was meant for BSG but got turned into a star trek ship last minute And the Prometheus class feels way to much like a marry sue ship with it being super fantastic and can turn into multiple ships without losing any power and it can fight off multiple opponents at once. Kind of goes against the feel of space submarines if you ask me
Might be due to watching it in german not english but i never got the hate Voyager cought. I allways liked it, then again i also will always think that original Star Trek is to marry sue and everything is good natured.
When i was 9 or 10, when i returned from school, voyager episode started. And, i loved it. I didnt see the whole series, but i loved every episode of it. Many dont like it, but for me, it will always have a place in my heart as an introduction to the sci-fi genre.
I saw the Next Generation growing up and enjoyed it, but I wasn't enthralled by it. I randomly came across Voyager one day and was immediately sucked in. It began my love of Sci Fi.
I think part of it was that voyager was more "fun"... don't get me wrong, TNG was plenty of fun, but unlike TNG the crew of voyager were quirkier, particularly with The Doctor, Neelix, and perpetual deer-in-the-headlights Harry Kim... where TNG had Sherlock Holmes, Voyager had Captain Proton. It's kind of all over the place and inconsistent, easier to watch if you don't try to build a continuity out of it... but I can totally understand why a younger audience would dig it more than the other star treks.
Nice breakdown of a ship that was put to the ultimate long range test. Any chance of seeing a part two for voyager as it underwent multiple alterations through its seven year trip from Borg alcoves to enlarged holodecks for Hirogen dressed as nazis to hunt in, to astrometrics, alternative propulsion drives, temporal shields and extensive bulkheads during the year of hell that then didn't happen. An historical document displayed it as having been covered in weaponry, Borg installed weapon launchers on it in fluidic space and a time traveling admiral covered it in deployable armour plating and this is just from what I can remember. As you say in your video, the intrepid class was a test bed for new ideas, and voyager proved more than capable of undergoing any alteration necessary to get the job done.
the wormhole in DS9 was also went about 70k. They just chose that because it’s about the furthest away they could get without being outside the galaxy.
@@PkmnMstr10 Not really. Voyager's starting point in the Delta quadrant was about equal to Federation space compared to the Bajorian wormhole's Gamma quadrant location. Plus the Bajorian wormhole's Gamma quadrant location is in the heart of Dominion space, a known enemy.
@AngemonRulez I hear what you are saying, I think there is a misunderstanding hear, my comment was in reference to a skit that Spacedock did about how Star Trek as a franchise has a habit to lean into technobabble to get out of situations, go check it out it's fun. As for Voyager itself and their supply problems, I assume that they do spend a lot of their time looking for raw resources to keep them going and don't need to be shown and told about that for 7 seasons, though it would have been nice if the show made better narrative use of their unique situation of being lost in deep space with no help or supplies. And I would agree about the photon torpedoes if it wasn't for the exchange between Janeway and Chakotay, where Chakotay states "We have a complement of thirty eight photon torpedoes at our disposal, Captain." and she replies "And no way to replace them after they're gone." making it sound like they can not be replaced with resources they have aboard ship, of course I'm sure the fabled Starfleet engineers could find a way but with that set up it would have been nice to address how it was solved as the show sets this up as a problem to be overcome, but that's just me :)
@@artembentsionov Haha well crew members dying is nothing new to trek, though it would have been nice in a small crew of 140 ish all marooned in space there would be more of an impact of gold shirts getting killed. The shuttles things is a bit of a joke, im sure over time they could convert part of the hanger or cargo bay into a shuttle and ship parts factory, though I'm still waiting for a technobabble answer (other than the magic of special effects...) to how the Delta Flyer can get out of the hanger as its too big to fit through.
Possibly my favorite Trek ship. I never really thought about how sparsely it is crewed however. Fifteen decks with only 150 crew members. That's only ten per deck. You could work all day and not see anyone else.
I'm not so sure. That might be 10 people per deck, but the ship isn't *that* massive either, only 344 meters, and a large portion of it is taken up by the shuttle bay and other large equipment
I remember the episodes from Star Trek Voyager where we saw the Intrepid Class land on an alien planet: 'The 37's' 'Basics Part 1' 'Basics Part 2' The Q and the Grey' 'Demon' 'Dragon's Teeth' As far as I can remember these episodes were the only ones where we saw Voyager land on a planet.
It would be interesting to see the future versions based upon that space frame, after all Voyager was a first generation design (yes I know STO has some). The Variable Geometry nacelles was one of two concepts they were testing out (the other being the Sovereign's design) to enable starships to travel at warp in unstable regions where subspace is vunerable to damage - Note warp does *not damage regular subspace,* if it did then after millions of years of warp capable civilisations there would be no subspace. It was to allow travel in the Hekaras corridor and similar regions (with tetryon radiation) without triggering any effects, a strategically useful ability, especially if encountering similar instabilities during exploration where no rescue ship would know to look if you got in trouble. But future designs could use fixed nacelles and a warp core modeled on the Sovereign's design (it was supposed to be the better of the two, they were trialing both). As well, the Sovereign had isolinear back ups for the bio neural gel packs, the ship was designed later than the Intrepid class so it had a few design concept improvements that could be applied to the Intrepid. A Intrepid Mark 2 would be a cool looking ship, and even more effective and robust. As for the ship itself, it fulfilled a vital new role in Starfleet, a versatile practical compact version of the Galaxy class. The Galaxy class could be considered bloated while the Intrepid was _lean and mean._ It allowed long range missions with a much smaller crew, which had several major advantages: First of all posts Dominion war, Starfleet had manpower issues so smaller crew requirement ships were a logistical advantage (and more able to be risked … ). Secondly many more Intrepid ships could be constructed and crewed for the same amount of resources used in a Galaxy class ship (by over a factor of 6 for size, either 5 or 6 for crew), and thus more exploration in different regions could occur. Finally the Intrepid could do double duty as a _very effective_ fast long range combat ship and with it's extensive facilities as a support vessel for pure combat ships such as the Defiant class. Imagine a Wolfpack with a bunch of Defiants and a Intrepid to cover the slack for the facilities the minimalist Defiants lack (full medical, extremely powerful long range sensors, *large replicators* and repair and resupply facilities, Holodeck training simulators ect). It would be a nasty combat group that didn't cost as much resources as a Akira class (3,000,000 metric tons versus only 700,000 for a Intrepid class, a Defiant was 355,000). So you get one Intrepid and Six Defiants for the material cost of one Akira. That's a scary Hunter/Killer raiding group that can stay out for a long time without resupply. The Intrepid thus fits in perfectly with the new philosophy and requirements of post Dominion Starfleet.
the Galaxy Class was meant to be a heavy cruiser and a flag ship. meant to slug it out with a Klingon or Romulan flag ship not jump in and just start kicking. the intrepid was a ship of the line. she was meant to jump in strike jump away though i always thought the intrepid class needed a cloak like the defiant class had. imagine how much crap Janeway could have avoided if she could have ran cloaked.
And now Admiral Janeway monitors the timeline, making sure nothing harms her crew and silencing uppity critic who would dare question the temporal queen.
I guess similar to the explorers in the age of sail, all of the 1400s - 1700s galleons & brigs that went out to chart the unknown had plenty strong cannon.
It's the norm for Federation ships, they're meant as multiple role exploration ships but generally have more firepower than other powers dedicated warships due to the highly advanced nature of Federation technology.
Whenever I see a blended saucer and secondary hull Starfleet ship head on (Nova, Sovereign, ect) I want to attach the nacelles to the primary hull as well. Yes I know the Intrepid's move, but the Intrepid Mark 2 might use the Sovereign's nacelle and warp core design instead (it was judged better of the two systems). Just anchor them there and suddenly the ship looks more robust and sleek as well. I keep imagining how serious an issue cracks in a pylon would be. Although I would also like to extend the height of the saucer far further back, rather than have the sudden drop off at the middle, it looks a little off, side on, like a sloped back of a head. And it would give a lot more usable space in engineering and shuttle bays. It's how I would upgrade the Nova class specifically, but the Intrepid could use it as well. And imagine a Intrepid built with the aesthetics of the Sovereigns grey rounded sleek metallic design.
Been watching your posts for a while. Very informative with fine detail. Keep it up. Have been a sify junkie since seeing The Day the Earth Stood Still as a child in the 60's. Even have Klatoos last scene monologue stored on the handset.
You missed out on the fact the Intrepid Class has the most powerful armor ever created in starfleet. It was know as poltainum. If threatened, the captain could just engage plot armor and easily defeat borg cubes.
Out of all the hero ships we see this is my second favourite ship (the first been the defiant) I’m actually not a fan of the standard federation design of the saucer section up front bit that all starfleet ships tend to do, ied be quite happy to be assigned as captain to an intrepid class yes it’s not the Cruise liner of the galaxy class but it’s a nice mid point between Comfort and power.
Could you do a video on all the upgrades the Voayger got through its journey? Including Warp 10, the Slipstream Drive, and maybe even the unending search for coffee?
I think the Intrepid Class Cruiser is my favorite Star Trek ship design, and I'd probably use it if I was forced to pick a ship from Star Trek as my personal star ship.
So does Janeway's mission in the Delta Quadrant beat Kirk's five year mission in space. I think it definitely beats him even though the whole thing was by accident.
if you think about it, Voyager was pretty much the galactic version of the Oregon trail lolz but Janeway had no mission from Starfleet, Voyager was to report to DS9 and receive their mission from Sisko, in fact Voyager was supposed to be the defense vessel for the station and the real mission likely would have been study the wormhole & defend the station had they not got sucked into the delta quadrant
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Probably for the best, Federation ships were dropping like flies in the final years of the war. Had Voyager remained at DS9, she likely would have been blown out of space.
Least favourite Star Trek series but favourite ship. The Galaxy class was just ludicrously big. We never saw more than 1% of the ship or the crew in 7 years.
If you pay attention to the way they talk about the ship in early seasons, its clear its supposed to be a fast response combat ship. Like a destroyer. But it was later retconned into a science vessel. A long rang science vessel to boot.
A dedicated combat variant of the Intrepid class would be a force to be reckoned with largely due to its hull geometry and nacelle placement. The Intrepid is configured in such a way as to facilitate totally unobstructed firing arcs.
Great analysis! I see the Intrepid as a response to the perceived failures of the Galaxy-class design. while not as adaptable or capable or able to do longer duration missions as the Galaxy class, it likely took half the resources to build and equip and a sixth of the crew. Starfleet could have two Intrepids zipping about with their higher speeds and picking up what specialized personnel and equipment to do the multitude of missions a single Galaxy class would have done in the TNG era, without putting all the eggs in one basket (the loss of the Odyssey and Enterprise-D just prior to the launch of the Intrepids likely contributed to that). while maybe not as good in a fight as a Galaxy class, an Intrepid likely could get out of a fight and run for safety more effectively than a Galaxy class (again, the loss of the Odyssey and Enterprise-D to what on paper should have been tactically inferior forces). all that said, i was never a big fan of the overall shape, which i felt was unbalanced. The nacelles were too small in proportion.
0:29 fun fact: This Galaxy class ship ist the USS Enterprise D. After the finale of TNG, the ship was ordered back to Earth to be overhauled in spacedock. It was here last upgrade.. Shortly thereafter she left for her last mission (Star Trek Generations) as a result of which the ship was lost.
It's too bad that they never utilized the Aeroshuttle design for voyager. All they had to do was build it, launch it underneath the saucer section like it was planned, and call it the Delta Flyer with all the same mechanics/abilities that the Delta Flyer had. Also I wonder if they intend to bring the starship Voyager in the new Picard series since Janeway is an Admiral at that point? It would be pretty cool to have the enterprise and voyager in the same scene.
Have to say, you really don't understand the intrepids versatility until it's all explained at once. Plus, I love the utopia planetia scene. Wish they would have more like that!
I was introduced to this ship at the borg 4d thing in Vegas as a kid she was beautiful voyager would end up becoming my favorite trek and I think the ship had a lot to do with it. Just seemed like the ship to be on it was fast high tech and looked cooler than the galaxy
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love the intrepid class my second fav after the galaxy class.
You forgot one of its most fascinating aspects, it can regroup with itself! As Janeway ordered in one fight, “Pull back! We need to regroup!” Voyager was ALONE in that battle.
Ya'know, as I recall, before STO, this ship was actually described as a tactical ship, not a science one. Something that makes a lot more sense based on the fact it carries a Galaxy class's level of firepower in an ship less than half the size.
@ Spacedock a video to consider would be how many good angles can you capture a Trek ships flyby. Voyagers lack of neck and flat plane may be good tactical design, but building a ship on a flat plane means the camera can only be above, on or below that plane. Contrast to the original Enterprise whose primary and secondary hulls yielded two planes allowing more engaging shots of the ships two hulls from drastically different perspectives due to the inclusion of a long neck and pylons and you start to see that flatter Trek ships yield fewer interesting camera angles to film the ship due to the ships ‘sweet’ spots having fewer degrees of separation along its planes. Putting more pressure on intricate model work. Meanwhile, the TOS and TMP ships still possess a certain visual appeal that the Enterprise E made a move to recapture when they put the nacelle’s out on long pylons. Personally, I hope for the day when Trek designers stop building warships, and start building ships that capture the imagination, since the demands of a warship push the design in a direction that is expected, but limits the overall visual presence and presentation of the ideas behind the franchise.
The intrepid class is a very good ship type. Fast and maneuverable. If it was given ablative hull armor and quantum torpedoes it would be even more formidable.
I can't take that image of the 'landed' Voyager seriously. That much ship, on just four of those teeny little legs (with most of the weight over the front pair)--nope.
Daniel also mentioned anti-gravity generators that help the landing struts. I suspect some of those generators are on the bottom of the saucer section.
@@peterwright5358 Fair enough, but a power interruption of only a few seconds would lead to some real issues in that case, and we've certainly seen lots of instances of that sort of problem over the years. And hey, if it can only 'land' via an anti-gravity-assisted hover, why not skip the legs altogether? Or use those incredibly versatile phasers to carve out a landing pit shaped to provide a stable and supporting cradle for the thing. That, or carry the variable-geometry thing a bit further, and have the saucer section pivot forward and down till it's in-line with the lower hull, and bring the saucer low enough for another pair of legs to extend from there--that might look pretty great for warp transitions too.
You forgot the most amazing feature of the Intrepid class. It's Tardis technology based shuttle bay which is capable of storing an unlimited number of red shirt composite hulled shuttlecraft.
A retrofit Intrepid-class with all the (mechanically balanced) bells and whistles Voyager got over the course of the series is the ship in the Star Trek Adventures tabletop RPG game I'm a part of (as the Romulan Captain, it takes place 30 years after Nemesis). So far we've fought Romulan Tal Shiar warbirds, traveled in time, fought the Iconians and are currently dealing with temporal shenanigans and a lying Temporal Agent from a timeline where the Borg conquered the Alpha Quadrant. If you haven't played it yet, do so if you're jonesing for a Star Trek RPG and Online just doesn't cut it.
A special ship request; Warship Voyager. Although not an actual real ship, rather just a simulation. I'd still love to hear about it on Spacedock. I've admired this beast of a ship the second I laid eyes on it. So much in fact, I even have its model figure from Eaglemoss. Sorry, I'm rambling here. But anyway, do let me know if such a request is possible. Good day to you.
All this time I thought the USS Voyager would be absolutely incredibly huge (it certainly has that impression; especially when I saw it for the first time when I watched Star Trek as a kid) when it's actually only 343 meters long and 116 meters wide! And what makes it even funnier is that it's even *shorter* than the currently world's biggest cruise ship (for, like, 19 meters!).
Is the crew complement really supposed to be 150? I always had the impression that Voyager's complement was sort of a skeleton crew thrown together for the mission and that the ship would have usually had a much larger crew.
You forgot to mention that the ship also has highly advanced replicator technologies that can construct new shuttles and torpedoes or fix damaged areas of the ship between episodes.
Well... Half a Yeager is better than nothing I guess. :P
#Yeagerforno
The good old "Warship Voyager".^^
I don't get it. Can someone please explain it to me?
@@LeonardoFSI I don't get it either.
@@LeonardoFSI Spacedock is a fan of the Yeager class, which uses the primary hull of the Intrepid class. It is a mixed ship.
"There's coffee in that nebula" Capt Janeway
There's nesquick in that black hole...
"Just like Jonah and the Whale. You're going in."
There's Coca Cola in that abandoned spacecraft.
"One more cup and I'll jump to warp" by no doubt the best lines in star trek ever
@@quinn3109 That'll always be my favorite Janeway quote, seriously.
Also the source of the best phrase in Startrek ever, "TAKE THAT CHEESE TO SICKBAY"
Or "There's coffee in that nebula!"
My favourite
The Doctor:
I don't know what happened to you; but there can be any number of explanations: hallucination, telepathic communication from another race, repressed memory, momentary contact with a parallel reality - take your pick. The universe is such a strange place.
The resigned way he says it, the Doctor almost seems to break the fourth wall.
@Darth Revan i would make a great ST writer then😂
"Can you offer any other evidence of mental instability on the part of my client?"
"What more do I need? He wants to kill himself?"
Something I didn't appreciate at the time I first started watching Voyager was that Janeway was unusually well suited to her ship. Every command meeting is a demonstration that she's a Science Officer's captain, and knowing that she was nearly a pefect fit for her particular vessel makes the show hang together more. Relates more to SGA that way.
One thing I rarely see mentioned is just how good the Bio-Neural gel packs were at allowing the ship to act almost autonomously. In the episode 'Workforce' we see the ECH giving orders to the ships computer to engage in combat sans the entire crew. Remember that this is functionally the ship giving orders to itself, with no organic mind present to oversee.
I've always loved the Intrepid class's design. It and the sovereign are probably my favorite ship types for the federation. Sleek but keeping the same style the series is known for
I agree. I grew up with VOY and the post-First Contact works like the Activision continuity so the Sovereign is one of my favorites.
I was personally never a fan of the old Starfleet designs, especially since the neck between the saucer and drive section looks vulnerable.
Am I weird for loving the Intrepid but hating the Sovereign?
The refit Constitution Class is anyone needs for exploring...
The Defiant class is mine.
@@chrissonofpear1384 Luna class just looks like a Miranda and Akira got smooshed together.
The Achilles just looks like it was meant for BSG but got turned into a star trek ship last minute
And the Prometheus class feels way to much like a marry sue ship with it being super fantastic and can turn into multiple ships without losing any power and it can fight off multiple opponents at once. Kind of goes against the feel of space submarines if you ask me
"Half a Yeager"
I love you Spacedock
Yes! I love the Intrepid class so much, and I unashamedly love Voyager as a show for giving us this beautiful ship. Thanks for covering her!
Voyager was / is a great ship.
I also love how the Captain's ready room is about the size of a Fifth Avenue penthouse lounge. 😀
Wonky writers being what they are, Voyager was my ship, too.
Might be due to watching it in german not english but i never got the hate Voyager cought. I allways liked it, then again i also will always think that original Star Trek is to marry sue and everything is good natured.
Yesssss, same here, I love voyager. They kinda rushed it at the end, but it was the Star trek series of my childhood, so it'll always be #1 for that.
You will get no arguments from me. 🖖
When i was 9 or 10, when i returned from school, voyager episode started. And, i loved it. I didnt see the whole series, but i loved every episode of it. Many dont like it, but for me, it will always have a place in my heart as an introduction to the sci-fi genre.
I saw the Next Generation growing up and enjoyed it, but I wasn't enthralled by it. I randomly came across Voyager one day and was immediately sucked in. It began my love of Sci Fi.
I think part of it was that voyager was more "fun"... don't get me wrong, TNG was plenty of fun, but unlike TNG the crew of voyager were quirkier, particularly with The Doctor, Neelix, and perpetual deer-in-the-headlights Harry Kim... where TNG had Sherlock Holmes, Voyager had Captain Proton. It's kind of all over the place and inconsistent, easier to watch if you don't try to build a continuity out of it... but I can totally understand why a younger audience would dig it more than the other star treks.
Same , i was about 13 and been a sci fi fan ever since
At about 1:33 the Doctor's ego takes a critical hit from which it may never recover.
Nice breakdown of a ship that was put to the ultimate long range test. Any chance of seeing a part two for voyager as it underwent multiple alterations through its seven year trip from Borg alcoves to enlarged holodecks for Hirogen dressed as nazis to hunt in, to astrometrics, alternative propulsion drives, temporal shields and extensive bulkheads during the year of hell that then didn't happen. An historical document displayed it as having been covered in weaponry, Borg installed weapon launchers on it in fluidic space and a time traveling admiral covered it in deployable armour plating and this is just from what I can remember.
As you say in your video, the intrepid class was a test bed for new ideas, and voyager proved more than capable of undergoing any alteration necessary to get the job done.
Nice overview.
70,000 light years was a convenient 10,000 light years per season. 😉
the wormhole in DS9 was also went about 70k. They just chose that because it’s about the furthest away they could get without being outside the galaxy.
As an average, yes. However, they took 3 seasons before they got their first big jump of 10k, and the last episode went about 30-40k in one go.
@@EstrellaViajeViajero and there was The Voyager Conspiracy episode with the light catapult. That helped them quite a bit.
@@Tuskin38 Something I always thought about. Wouldn't it have been quicker for Voyager to use the Bajoran Wormhole to get home?
@@PkmnMstr10 Not really. Voyager's starting point in the Delta quadrant was about equal to Federation space compared to the Bajorian wormhole's Gamma quadrant location. Plus the Bajorian wormhole's Gamma quadrant location is in the heart of Dominion space, a known enemy.
I continue to hope that they release a Voyager technical manual to pus along side my TNG and DS9 manuals
It took Janeway 3 months to read hers.
But you forgot about the ships ample stores of emergency potassium!
@tylerx2f01 ,
I'm sure Voyageur's Crew was able to craft more torpedoes... just like it was able to repair the ship umpteen times...
@AngemonRulez I hear what you are saying, I think there is a misunderstanding hear, my comment was in reference to a skit that Spacedock did about how Star Trek as a franchise has a habit to lean into technobabble to get out of situations, go check it out it's fun.
As for Voyager itself and their supply problems, I assume that they do spend a lot of their time looking for raw resources to keep them going and don't need to be shown and told about that for 7 seasons, though it would have been nice if the show made better narrative use of their unique situation of being lost in deep space with no help or supplies. And I would agree about the photon torpedoes if it wasn't for the exchange between Janeway and Chakotay, where Chakotay states "We have a complement of thirty eight photon torpedoes at our disposal, Captain." and she replies "And no way to replace them after they're gone." making it sound like they can not be replaced with resources they have aboard ship, of course I'm sure the fabled Starfleet engineers could find a way but with that set up it would have been nice to address how it was solved as the show sets this up as a problem to be overcome, but that's just me :)
What about all the shuttles and crew members they lost?
@@artembentsionov Haha well crew members dying is nothing new to trek, though it would have been nice in a small crew of 140 ish all marooned in space there would be more of an impact of gold shirts getting killed. The shuttles things is a bit of a joke, im sure over time they could convert part of the hanger or cargo bay into a shuttle and ship parts factory, though I'm still waiting for a technobabble answer (other than the magic of special effects...) to how the Delta Flyer can get out of the hanger as its too big to fit through.
@@azean84 The point is that they lost countless crew members but always had about 148 people on board.
The Intrepid Class, specifically Voyager, has always been one of my favorite Star Fleet ships.
I have to say, possibly my favorite ship design from Star Trek. The Defiant being a close second.
Yup my 2 favorite ships
Possibly my favorite Trek ship. I never really thought about how sparsely it is crewed however. Fifteen decks with only 150 crew members. That's only ten per deck. You could work all day and not see anyone else.
I'm not so sure. That might be 10 people per deck, but the ship isn't *that* massive either, only 344 meters, and a large portion of it is taken up by the shuttle bay and other large equipment
I remember the episodes from Star Trek Voyager where we saw the Intrepid Class land on an alien planet:
'The 37's'
'Basics Part 1'
'Basics Part 2'
The Q and the Grey'
'Demon'
'Dragon's Teeth'
As far as I can remember these episodes were the only ones where we saw Voyager land on a planet.
It would be interesting to see the future versions based upon that space frame, after all Voyager was a first generation design (yes I know STO has some).
The Variable Geometry nacelles was one of two concepts they were testing out (the other being the Sovereign's design) to enable starships to travel at warp in unstable regions where subspace is vunerable to damage - Note warp does *not damage regular subspace,* if it did then after millions of years of warp capable civilisations there would be no subspace.
It was to allow travel in the Hekaras corridor and similar regions (with tetryon radiation) without triggering any effects, a strategically useful ability, especially if encountering similar instabilities during exploration where no rescue ship would know to look if you got in trouble.
But future designs could use fixed nacelles and a warp core modeled on the Sovereign's design (it was supposed to be the better of the two, they were trialing both).
As well, the Sovereign had isolinear back ups for the bio neural gel packs, the ship was designed later than the Intrepid class so it had a few design concept improvements that could be applied to the Intrepid. A Intrepid Mark 2 would be a cool looking ship, and even more effective and robust.
As for the ship itself, it fulfilled a vital new role in Starfleet, a versatile practical compact version of the Galaxy class.
The Galaxy class could be considered bloated while the Intrepid was _lean and mean._
It allowed long range missions with a much smaller crew, which had several major advantages: First of all posts Dominion war, Starfleet had manpower issues so smaller crew requirement ships were a logistical advantage (and more able to be risked … ).
Secondly many more Intrepid ships could be constructed and crewed for the same amount of resources used in a Galaxy class ship (by over a factor of 6 for size, either 5 or 6 for crew), and thus more exploration in different regions could occur.
Finally the Intrepid could do double duty as a _very effective_ fast long range combat ship and with it's extensive facilities as a support vessel for pure combat ships such as the Defiant class.
Imagine a Wolfpack with a bunch of Defiants and a Intrepid to cover the slack for the facilities the minimalist Defiants lack (full medical, extremely powerful long range sensors, *large replicators* and repair and resupply facilities, Holodeck training simulators ect). It would be a nasty combat group that didn't cost as much resources as a Akira class (3,000,000 metric tons versus only 700,000 for a Intrepid class, a Defiant was 355,000). So you get one Intrepid and Six Defiants for the material cost of one Akira. That's a scary Hunter/Killer raiding group that can stay out for a long time without resupply.
The Intrepid thus fits in perfectly with the new philosophy and requirements of post Dominion Starfleet.
the Galaxy Class was meant to be a heavy cruiser and a flag ship. meant to slug it out with a Klingon or Romulan flag ship not jump in and just start kicking. the intrepid was a ship of the line. she was meant to jump in strike jump away though i always thought the intrepid class needed a cloak like the defiant class had. imagine how much crap Janeway could have avoided if she could have ran cloaked.
And now Admiral Janeway monitors the timeline, making sure nothing harms her crew and silencing uppity critic who would dare question the temporal queen.
I like how every exploratory ship in the trek universe double effectively as war ships because aliens periodically attacking is so common
The best diplomat, after all, is a fully-charged phaser bank.
well you know Capt Archer wouldn't have it any other way.
I guess similar to the explorers in the age of sail, all of the 1400s - 1700s galleons & brigs that went out to chart the unknown had plenty strong cannon.
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 no peace on the open seas
It's the norm for Federation ships, they're meant as multiple role exploration ships but generally have more firepower than other powers dedicated warships due to the highly advanced nature of Federation technology.
"Delete the wife."
- Captain Kathryn Janeway
Cold, but justified, since the wife didn't really exist.
Let it go, now.
"It appears we have lost our sex appeal, Captain."
Thanks for the enjoyable review of the Intrepid class vessel and the most famous USS Voyager, Great ship with interesting crew.
Great timing. I just so happened to have started watching Voyager again. Just watched the first episode yesterday.
Whenever I see a blended saucer and secondary hull Starfleet ship head on (Nova, Sovereign, ect) I want to attach the nacelles to the primary hull as well.
Yes I know the Intrepid's move, but the Intrepid Mark 2 might use the Sovereign's nacelle and warp core design instead (it was judged better of the two systems).
Just anchor them there and suddenly the ship looks more robust and sleek as well. I keep imagining how serious an issue cracks in a pylon would be.
Although I would also like to extend the height of the saucer far further back, rather than have the sudden drop off at the middle, it looks a little off, side on, like a sloped back of a head. And it would give a lot more usable space in engineering and shuttle bays.
It's how I would upgrade the Nova class specifically, but the Intrepid could use it as well.
And imagine a Intrepid built with the aesthetics of the Sovereigns grey rounded sleek metallic design.
Ive had the idea that after Starfleet got word on Voyager survivin in the delta quadrant they put production of intrepid class ships into overdrive.
Are you thinking of doing a video on Voyager as it is at the end of the show, with all it's upgrades etc.
Been watching your posts for a while. Very informative with fine detail. Keep it up. Have been a sify junkie since seeing The Day the Earth Stood Still as a child in the 60's. Even have Klatoos last scene monologue stored on the handset.
You missed out on the fact the Intrepid Class has the most powerful armor ever created in starfleet. It was know as poltainum. If threatened, the captain could just engage plot armor and easily defeat borg cubes.
Awesome you included the Aeroshuttle, thanks!
Out of all the hero ships we see this is my second favourite ship (the first been the defiant) I’m actually not a fan of the standard federation design of the saucer section up front bit that all starfleet ships tend to do, ied be quite happy to be assigned as captain to an intrepid class yes it’s not the Cruise liner of the galaxy class but it’s a nice mid point between Comfort and power.
Could you do a video on all the upgrades the Voayger got through its journey? Including Warp 10, the Slipstream Drive, and maybe even the unending search for coffee?
now this is my favourite ship of startrek
I think the Intrepid Class Cruiser is my favorite Star Trek ship design, and I'd probably use it if I was forced to pick a ship from Star Trek as my personal star ship.
I always loved the Intrepid's design. It was my favorite Starfleet design before the Sovereign came out. I'm a sucker for sleek lines and curves
So does Janeway's mission in the Delta Quadrant beat Kirk's five year mission in space. I think it definitely beats him even though the whole thing was by accident.
Ironically voyager is about the size of the TOS enterprise (hell, the defiant was about the same size as the NX enterprise
if you think about it, Voyager was pretty much the galactic version of the Oregon trail lolz
but Janeway had no mission from Starfleet, Voyager was to report to DS9 and receive their mission from Sisko, in fact Voyager was supposed to be the defense vessel for the station and the real mission likely would have been study the wormhole & defend the station had they not got sucked into the delta quadrant
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage Probably for the best, Federation ships were dropping like flies in the final years of the war. Had Voyager remained at DS9, she likely would have been blown out of space.
@@VegetaLF7 agreed better off fighting the Kazon with their inferior tech then the Dominion.
Least favourite Star Trek series but favourite ship. The Galaxy class was just ludicrously big. We never saw more than 1% of the ship or the crew in 7 years.
If you pay attention to the way they talk about the ship in early seasons, its clear its supposed to be a fast response combat ship. Like a destroyer. But it was later retconned into a science vessel. A long rang science vessel to boot.
One of my favorite starships!
One problem I always had with the Intrepid class was that the nacelles looked too short.
The bladed armor version in the finale is my favorite.
Ablative not bladed
I never understood how that stuff just materialized all over the ship
Cant believe that i havent seen the video until just now. More please and thank you
I love it's shuttle replication technology...
A dedicated combat variant of the Intrepid class would be a force to be reckoned with largely due to its hull geometry and nacelle placement. The Intrepid is configured in such a way as to facilitate totally unobstructed firing arcs.
The Intrepid class Starship is my favourite Starfleet Vessel it's a great looking sleek design & quite a beautiful looking Starship
In addition to the standard shields, Intrepid class vessels are equipped with inpenetrible plot armor.
Don't forget a limitless supply of photon torpedoes.
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Cry nerds, a ship equipped with replicators and interstellar travel will have problem finding/making more torpedoes lol
I like how short and sweet your videos are!
Man. Imagine a TNG era show after Voyager got back with all that sweet anti borg tech
Has to be my favorite Star Trek ship design ever
It's a shame that we only ever seen the standard shuttles in the series. Could have done with more types of craft
Voyager was the first Trek series I watched and I still love that ship.
my favourite ship of all time because of Voyager of course ..great video mate
Great analysis! I see the Intrepid as a response to the perceived failures of the Galaxy-class design. while not as adaptable or capable or able to do longer duration missions as the Galaxy class, it likely took half the resources to build and equip and a sixth of the crew. Starfleet could have two Intrepids zipping about with their higher speeds and picking up what specialized personnel and equipment to do the multitude of missions a single Galaxy class would have done in the TNG era, without putting all the eggs in one basket (the loss of the Odyssey and Enterprise-D just prior to the launch of the Intrepids likely contributed to that). while maybe not as good in a fight as a Galaxy class, an Intrepid likely could get out of a fight and run for safety more effectively than a Galaxy class (again, the loss of the Odyssey and Enterprise-D to what on paper should have been tactically inferior forces). all that said, i was never a big fan of the overall shape, which i felt was unbalanced. The nacelles were too small in proportion.
I consider the Intrepid class to be a light cruiser. Very nice design.
One of my favourite SpaceShip
0:29 fun fact: This Galaxy class ship ist the USS Enterprise D. After the finale of TNG, the ship was ordered back to Earth to be overhauled in spacedock. It was here last upgrade.. Shortly thereafter she left for her last mission (Star Trek Generations) as a result of which the ship was lost.
Ahh the Sample Spoon looking Ship 😆
"A great number" meaning infinite shuttle storage.
They may store extra photon torpedoes there too.
Or their shuttlebay is a large replicator.
0:42 Role: Long-Range Science Vessel, Exploration Cruiser, Experimental Testbed, Half a Yeager
Oh, Spacedock you rascal. #yeagerforsto
Very nicely done!!!👏👏👏
It's too bad that they never utilized the Aeroshuttle design for voyager. All they had to do was build it, launch it underneath the saucer section like it was planned, and call it the Delta Flyer with all the same mechanics/abilities that the Delta Flyer had. Also I wonder if they intend to bring the starship Voyager in the new Picard series since Janeway is an Admiral at that point? It would be pretty cool to have the enterprise and voyager in the same scene.
I like that the background music is from the video game Star Trek: Encounters.
Possibly my favorite Star Trek ship design.
Have to say, you really don't understand the intrepids versatility until it's all explained at once. Plus, I love the utopia planetia scene. Wish they would have more like that!
Breadown? Vienna or wholemeal? Didn't know the ship was DOUGH powered!
By far my favourite star trek ship.
I was introduced to this ship at the borg 4d thing in Vegas as a kid she was beautiful voyager would end up becoming my favorite trek and I think the ship had a lot to do with it. Just seemed like the ship to be on it was fast high tech and looked cooler than the galaxy
love the intrepid class my second fav after the galaxy class.
You forgot one of its most fascinating aspects, it can regroup with itself! As Janeway ordered in one fight, “Pull back! We need to regroup!” Voyager was ALONE in that battle.
Ya'know, as I recall, before STO, this ship was actually described as a tactical ship, not a science one. Something that makes a lot more sense based on the fact it carries a Galaxy class's level of firepower in an ship less than half the size.
Your Star Trek videos are the best.
Hated the show but loved the ship. Thanks for the usual excellent video!
I loved the show.
Hello there somebody; I hope you’re having a good day!😊
Or night
Do the defiant next
@ Spacedock a video to consider would be how many good angles can you capture a Trek ships flyby. Voyagers lack of neck and flat plane may be good tactical design, but building a ship on a flat plane means the camera can only be above, on or below that plane. Contrast to the original Enterprise whose primary and secondary hulls yielded two planes allowing more engaging shots of the ships two hulls from drastically different perspectives due to the inclusion of a long neck and pylons and you start to see that flatter Trek ships yield fewer interesting camera angles to film the ship due to the ships ‘sweet’ spots having fewer degrees of separation along its planes. Putting more pressure on intricate model work.
Meanwhile, the TOS and TMP ships still possess a certain visual appeal that the Enterprise E made a move to recapture when they put the nacelle’s out on long pylons. Personally, I hope for the day when Trek designers stop building warships, and start building ships that capture the imagination, since the demands of a warship push the design in a direction that is expected, but limits the overall visual presence and presentation of the ideas behind the franchise.
The intrepid class is a very good ship type. Fast and maneuverable. If it was given ablative hull armor and quantum torpedoes it would be even more formidable.
You should do the delta flyer
All RIGHT! All caught up. Finally. It took me long enough.
Now, when's the Sojourn starting?
I can't take that image of the 'landed' Voyager seriously.
That much ship, on just four of those teeny little legs (with most of the weight over the front pair)--nope.
Daniel also mentioned anti-gravity generators that help the landing struts. I suspect some of those generators are on the bottom of the saucer section.
@@peterwright5358 Fair enough, but a power interruption of only a few seconds would lead to some real issues in that case, and we've certainly seen lots of instances of that sort of problem over the years. And hey, if it can only 'land' via an anti-gravity-assisted hover, why not skip the legs altogether? Or use those incredibly versatile phasers to carve out a landing pit shaped to provide a stable and supporting cradle for the thing.
That, or carry the variable-geometry thing a bit further, and have the saucer section pivot forward and down till it's in-line with the lower hull, and bring the saucer low enough for another pair of legs to extend from there--that might look pretty great for warp transitions too.
@@Etaukan a good throwing knife design would look cool
You forgot the most amazing feature of the Intrepid class. It's Tardis technology based shuttle bay which is capable of storing an unlimited number of red shirt composite hulled shuttlecraft.
Wish they'd used the aeroshuttle during the run on the show.
i don't think it was installed yet when voyager launched
Mu favorite ride from the Federation’s garage.
Voyager is my fav series from older Star Treks.
you know its good when the legacy music plays
Have you done the SAAB Hammerhead yet? Space Above and Beyond was awesome.
Space:AAB is awesome. The Hammerheads, The Saratoga, The Carriers, The Chig ships.... The show was superior and way ahead of its time.
A retrofit Intrepid-class with all the (mechanically balanced) bells and whistles Voyager got over the course of the series is the ship in the Star Trek Adventures tabletop RPG game I'm a part of (as the Romulan Captain, it takes place 30 years after Nemesis). So far we've fought Romulan Tal Shiar warbirds, traveled in time, fought the Iconians and are currently dealing with temporal shenanigans and a lying Temporal Agent from a timeline where the Borg conquered the Alpha Quadrant. If you haven't played it yet, do so if you're jonesing for a Star Trek RPG and Online just doesn't cut it.
Would like to see a video on the 32C Intrepid/Janeway class
I like the Star Trek Legacy music & that was an amazing video
A special ship request; Warship Voyager. Although not an actual real ship, rather just a simulation. I'd still love to hear about it on Spacedock. I've admired this beast of a ship the second I laid eyes on it. So much in fact, I even have its model figure from Eaglemoss. Sorry, I'm rambling here. But anyway, do let me know if such a request is possible. Good day to you.
I never quite agreed with Janeway becoming an Admiral while Picard was still a Captain. She was probably a Lieutenant when we Captained the Stargazer.
Picard was probably ducking the promotion, the way Kirk did for years, in order to remain at the helm of a starship.
The Intrepid class is my favorite.
"Numerous" secondary vessels. Reminds me of some of the things Steve Shives has said on the subject lol.
All this time I thought the USS Voyager would be absolutely incredibly huge (it certainly has that impression; especially when I saw it for the first time when I watched Star Trek as a kid) when it's actually only 343 meters long and 116 meters wide! And what makes it even funnier is that it's even *shorter* than the currently world's biggest cruise ship (for, like, 19 meters!).
My favourite ship and show in trek
Is the crew complement really supposed to be 150? I always had the impression that Voyager's complement was sort of a skeleton crew thrown together for the mission and that the ship would have usually had a much larger crew.
great job
You forgot to mention that the ship also has highly advanced replicator technologies that can construct new shuttles and torpedoes or fix damaged areas of the ship between episodes.
2nd favorite ship only to the galaxy class. Very cool ship
The Intrepid-class also utilised shuttle vending machines to carry ridiculous amounts of disposable shuttles.