How to CLIMB till DIVINE as a CARRY
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- In this video, I will reveal what is required to get to divine as a carry based on my coaching experience & data acquired from OpenDota,Dotabuff.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Importance of Farming
01:20 How MMR Works
01:55 CS Goals & Importance
05:15 10 min Goal (Last-Hitting, Aggro, Lane Farming)
09:38 15 and 20 Minute Goal (Farming Patterns)
11:42 Time-Wasting
12:55 Mentality (Very Important)
14:37 Coaching & Outro
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I am here to comment once again after playing a significant number of carry games I saved up role queue tokens for and this video has helped me immensely in keeping my focus to always hit that 180/200 in 20 minutes benchmark and I always hit it when I win the lane. Helped me finally hit 5k for the first time and am now 2 medals away from hitting Immortal. Many thanks PainDota for your wonderful content! Much love from a PMA player from SEA. ❤
Some feedback for 12:30: you can know where and when the enemy creeps will be by looking at your own creeps in the respective lane. for example: u can guess where enemy offlane creeps have reached at xx:14-xx:20 by looking at your own offlane creeps. if your wave spawn is near the tower then enemy creeps will also be around their tower somewhere.
Yeah that's one way to do it but I didn't want my audience to find an easier way that isn't reliable. It takes a decent time to look at your own lane and look at another lane and in a fast paced game, you might fuck up trying to do that
U come from league? I think thats what they usually do
@@lukestclairmaitland3003no
1 more thing to add is keeping in mind who might kill your hero and pushing the lane immediately if you see them show elsewhere. That makes you a bit less useless before timings.
its impossible to farm, without considering your matchups in atleast 2/3 of games.
+1 here
Good luck doing this in lower ranks where almost every support or offlaner griefs the carry farming patterns. Like the random Axe that already has blink dagger and is now farming the triangle for no particular reason. They literally see you walking toward a three or four waves of creeps and they TP in front of you.
I was a carry in this game and we were farming in a hurry because were really behind and my fucking snapfire saw me pinging and walking towards 3 waves, they went and nuked it.
I agree especially in sea
that's no excuses in lower brackets you have free farm almost everywhere
In lower brackets, there is so much un utilized resources available on the map. tbh anyone who thinks "their teammates" bla bla bla belongs to the bracket they are in.
I can attest to this. If you live your life playing SEA dota, you know this to be true. Even if they see you farming in their direction, they will farm the nearby camp in your farming rotation. I've always played carry before and there were 5 man farming the whole time, almost all the games! I switched to support that can carry the game without the need for too much farm and I went from Herald to Legend
This guy deserves more subscribers ,he its in my top 4 after speed, bsj , and topson....hope you the best buddy, keep the good content
Bro this is legendary grade quality guide, usually i play offlane or mid heroes, right now im still learning to play carry. This guide might help me to play carry.
Dude thank for this content, it is super valuable and it helps me a lot. It was very straightforward and concise, this is very difficult to find in the dota community.
Would love to see one of these for all the roles. Specifically offlane would be wonderful.
I agree I love this series for all roles
Yeah we would like to see offlane roles too !
Thanks for making these videos, i learn a lot and your voice is very enjoyable, would love to see a detailed lane guide as a melee carry without innate farming abilities like AM.
love the video, straight to the bone and super informative, keep it up! can you do how to play hard support next?
my favorite dota channel guide. keep it up mate!
I can confirm that this farming mentality works, I've been spamming naga after watching his other video on how to carry and get immortal and am just focusing on average 200-250 cs by 20 minutes, I have a 75% winrate, and went from calibrating at crusader 4 when 7.33 came out to legend 2 right now
Curious if you can get out of legend like this. let me know how it goes!
Man thank you so much for this guide it worked so well for me! Just amazing!
Thank you for the video. Great comparisons and points of focus.
Exactly the type of video I was looking for, thanks.
Great video, wish you luck!
best video on youtube about playing pos 1, got my sub!
I've been following this guide for a while. From Herald 5 now to Archon 1, spamming naga siren and tb then farm and farm until 25-30mins idgaf to everything, I bought my own wards when I don't have much space in the map. ill join the fight later, naga/tb with manta, heart/skadi, butterfly really makes the game easier no matter what the situation is from the past 25mins xD Thanks, Pain!
This is quality information! thanks for the video
Thank you for this tip will implement this on my nxt games players since dota 1 stuck in archon and legend more of this ty
Thanks man a lot i saw this video around 3 weeks and i was at 2450ish mmr and now i am at 3100 legend 1 by just getting proper lh at 20 min and watching this video again to get some more insights
thank you for the quality video my dude
excelllent video!! thank you
Thanks man, i just climbed 300 mmr after watching this video. Hope you make more quality content
This is super insightful! Really like the part where you compare every bracket's last hits in 20 minutes.
Would love to see an offlane version
As offlane u cant afk farm like pos1 and win while turning your brain off, to rank up from offlane your only option is to abuse one type of playstyle to its limits, for example brood/beast/lycan zoo playstyle with helm dom, magnus/legion/axe initiator playstyle, or underlord/tide/ds auras playstyle, each of these playstyles need immense gamesense, laning, awereness, cs and micro to carry, so you have to literally spam these to be able to carry games
Your job as offlane is same as mid. Giving space for ur carry to seal the win. Every match has timing so u need to know ur friends hero and when to do some farming, and ganking. The key for offlane is when u make 1 or 2 item u can go war with the enemy so after 1 tower got destroyed u need to do some ganking or farming a bit to seal the win of some war.
I just think the comparison is not real by one simple fact. In lower ranks, supports and offlaner don’t play their roles properly, they steal every single creep and jungle camp on the map from the HC. To get near 200 lh in 20min is a joke in these brackets, because even your support wants to buy aghanims early game.
Idiotic also. Your impact on the game is insignificant if the team sucks. All this is nonsense. No matter how good you play, you can't win if the players are greeffing or play solo etc.
I improved a lot and I want to play on Divine level, in fact my stats are mostly in that range. But it's impossible to win. People are idiotic and feed or ignore the team, push without vision, etc. It's just random and that reflects in the 50% of the games won by everyone in fact.
It's impossible to climb without having a good team and win l70-80% of the games. Also these players have to be at your level, but Herald or Guardian, right???
I've seen idiotic Archon noobs who don't use the Phantom Rush on PL to farm faster, for example. Anything under Divine is low level.
These videos on youtube would aim for that kind of rank, but it's also hard to apply all these strategies if the teams are constantly fighting.
With dazzle I saved entire teams for example, but in the end, I can't save them all, and there is nothing to save if they are dying like flies one by one and never focus on team! And that's just an example.
I won 9 games in a row with WR as mid. But! If I go for role, I have to check the supports and the game puts me as hard support. I can impact the game as much as I can, but I can't win it by myself.
SO!!! BOTTOM LINE.
I will never go out of Herald even with high skills. I need a team on my level! And that's hard to find.
Awesome guide bro
Waiting for something like this for mid role. Nice vid
Your videos are awesome. Thanks!
Subscribed. Hopefully you’ll make a guide for offlaners, since offlane is a bit more interesting(in my opinion) since you’ll need to balance last hits with ruining the enemy carry’s game, while also trying to survive the lane when your 4 rotates, taking T1, knowing when to group up with your team and etc.
thank you for very useful tips 🤩🤩
Thanks you very much for these amazing guides. It feels so easy to play carry after two of your videos.
until will you have a griefer afk pos5 :) im on 3 and between 4k and i have always a griefer.. always. In the last two weeks, I lost 450mmr, because of griefer toxic players. Ohh.. with 10k behavior score ofc. And these games was not one me. I know the common god players will say: if u are good enough, u can climb up. But no. It is really hard if you are playing carry and pos4-5. If you play mid, climbing up is really easy. But i do not like to play mid. I love to play support or carry. And if you have a feeder mid, or a feeder pos1, u can not do anything. U can get the stars from the sky, nothing will help your game. U can try so hard, it will be impossible to win the game with 1 griefer.
@@solymosi4 It's not like these griefers are in your every game and who's to say the enemy team don't get them too in some of your games. I personally believe in the 40/40/20 rule that Jenkins made a video about. 40% are guaranteed wins, 40% are guaranteed losses usually because of things out of your control like griefers, smurfs, account buyers, etc. And 20% are impact games. These are relatively close games in which both sides are on equal skill level and almost every bit of mistake or outplay can decide the outcome of the match. The best way to get better is to focus on winning these tough games are they not only help you get better at the game being put in a difficult but manageable and winnable game but you also get some much needed experience from such high intensity games not to mention winning these games will give you a huge rush that every dota player craves for. Regardless though play like you're always trying to win, always trying to prove that you're better than the enemy team, always wanting to take the enemy ancient no matter what.
insane video it would be huge to make a one for midlane plz!
great channel
Great video, Paindota
Glad you enjoyed it
Quality content 👌🏼❣️🔥
like your content bro I really forgot how to play dota after pandemic really wanna try this technic on my pubs go make some more like this
a tip with the waves. both dire and radiant spawns creeps the same time, meaning wherever the creeps are on your side, they will be on the otherside.
Ty for video my friend
I've been doing this since the calibration. I got arhcon 2 and now I'm Ancient 2, I have around 70-80% winrate as safelane.
You have my yt support friend. Ty
Implement arteezy mentality from the legendary anti-mage game
What game is this please? I never heard of it
@@MegaPouletFrites EG vs OG at the TI9 I think. OG ran them over with juggernaut and Magnus and taking their racks and tower while arteezy farmed his bkb to be able to do something which he didn't xD he just died in an instant he blinked in and pressed bkb
@@MegaPouletFrites TI 9 EG vs OG game 3 probably
😂
Shhh... He's still farming
I would like to see hero specific guides where you elaborate on crucial item timings and when to/ when not to fight
thats nice content
Love ur channel buddy :>
great video, bro.
i just watched this vidoe today and that help me alot
did everygame that 200Last hits in time and ez win crusader 1v9 :D thanks alot
Lovely video bro I won 19 games out of my last 20 games. Thank you i think i can go pro now
Great vid on farming patterns! Can you do offlane as well? Thanks.
Great video
Agree, problem is unless you're playing a lot (10+ games a week) you don't really get good games. I play 2-4 games a week, and 50% of my games have a griefer. Meaning the other two I gotta play perfectly :D
Do U play in SEA
I usually dislike these kinds of videos because they give really vague advice, but this one is great. I'm 6k and can confirm if you do this stuff you'll easily hit 4k mmr. I do think the last hit range can be lower for carries like Riki who are incentivized to farm kills.
Also for everyone saying they want to see this for offlane, you don't understand offlane. Some heroes in offlane like LC and Axe want to rice a 2k gold item before they get active, some zoo offlaners just jungle in the enemy jungle to threaten towers, some offlane heroes just rush brown boots blink and start running it down immediately. Offlaners don't care about their last hit numbers if they're killing heroes.
Gonna try this. Dropped from divine to legend after this patrch, lets see if i can climb back!
One reason why higher bracket carry has higher cs its because their supports actually stack camps for them. I'm ancient and probably have 1/10 games where my supports stack, so maybe the target should be reduced abit. My average is about 160+ at 20mins
Keep reducing it and stay ancient my friend
i queued, wanting to implement these techniques... then got matched up against a huskar who positioned near my ranged creep so I couldnt even try to creep aggro. Tough luck out there.
Grt video plz make one video for mid lane
regarding lasthits you cant cs if all the heroes are your competition in low ELO even supports farm, the take range creeps and etc. your ofla e will be at the saflane camps farming up and supports taking over your lane
I love Pain dota
watching this vid while in queue and i got 200 cs in min 19 KEK ty
this video is 99% farming. I love it
Bro next make we need a content of when is the best time to engage in fights/join clash as a carry🙏
The average Afk farm carry getting confirmation bias watching this vid
If the support Last Hit and farm how can carry do? Pos 5 on herald farm and last hit on early game, and no put ward, no dust if enemy have invisible 😢
does this apply to sea server cuz in the games ive been playing the cores are fast at farming most of the time and im still guardian
how do you do this that you have this AOE range meter around your Auto Attack?
Hello do you have any suggest hero for midlaner nowday everytime i try to cover up what my team draft lack enemy keep cheese pick me, great video btw keep up
13:17 vital advice for all carry players right there
How to rank up as a support: pick defensive supports.
Esp in low ranks all carry players are dumb as a brick and will build glass cannon even if the enemy has nyx.
Being an omni or a dazzle will turn the tides of many battles.
Esp as omni, a good ulti in a low MMR fight will result in the enemys glass cannon carry not doing any dmg while being blasted down like a chimp.
@PainDota hey just confirming but do you edit the video first and later add the voice over? I am looking to start a youtube channel and am looking into what the approach should be. Also, what mic are you usin if you dont mind me asking. Other than that, great content as always.
Nope I dont use voice overs and im using razer sierin mini
ty for advice but i have a question as archon player who stucks and cant climb my rank , what can i do when my teammates are realy noob, most of the time when i check my replays i see my net worth is higher than other 9 players but the 2th and 3th and 4th higher networth are enemy heros , which means im really alone , what can i do about just tell me , because of these games i lose mmr , its realy hard 1 vs 3,for example u said muerta 180 in 20 mins , most of the time i have last hits between 165 to 185 in 20 mins with muerta , which is not realy bad and im the top of networth but my winrate with her is 41percent
I will give you mine. 1.if you're consistently the highest networth hero on your team then encourage at least 1 support to always be around to help you in case you get gone on. It doesn't necessarily have to be a save or healer hero just someone who can even turn a gank around and outright kill those trying to gank you. 2. Play around your power spikes and maximize your farm as much as possible to hit these spikes before the enemy cores do. Usually being an item or 2 ahead or sometimes an immensely powerful Aghs upgrade, Aghs shard or level talent. 3.Join fights only if you know you can outright win it and if you can't then recognize such instances as quickly as possible and gtfo before they get to you. Prioritize your life over your teammates to be more precise. 4. Never go highground without Aegis EVER! I can't stress this enough. Even at my Divine rank and even with a decent gold lead it's absolutely stupid to try and siege tier 3 towers without an Aegis. It always ends up badly. At low ranks this is really tricky to convince your teammates to do but you will have an easier time to end games sooner if you manage to do this. Spam pinging rosh if you have to. Insist the support to ward the Twin gates portal on where the Rosh is currently. Also, you generally can take down rosh in a minute or more if it's the full team so if you manage to convince your team to go rosh then do take it when there's at least 2 minutes left before Rosh moves to the other pit(e.g.23 min/28 min). Generally it's you the pos 1 carry who takes the aegis since you're the one with sufficient physical damage to siege the tower but it can sometimes go to certain mid heroes who can frontline and deal a lot of tower damage for you like Meepo or a hero like Storm Spirit who will be able to use the extra life well to win a decisive having full mana up again once aegis is used up. 5. Carries that I recommend in low rank are CK, Juggernaut, WK, PA, Slark, Ursa, Razor, MK and Bloodseeker. If you're really committed you can even try Morphling and Naga but it is a huge commitment to get good with these 2. If you're really serious about adding at least one of these 2 to your hero pool then you better get some serious practice and play time on anything first usually in unranked or in turbo. Hope this helps you out bro.
Getting 180/200 sounds incredibly hard and downright impossible for heroes that have no farm accelerants. Lowering it a bit by 165/185 is a bit more feasible. Also while this wasn't mentioned, you shouldn't feel bad about not hitting these numbers when you also get kills as a carry. Sometimes certain "kill lane" carries like CK do not mind not getting that much lasthits when they can outright kill anything in sight that doesn't have an escape when he gets his armlet and echo sabre.
I have mentioned that its lowered for heroes without farming capabilities.
Forgot a tiny detail. Better teams in higher medals pay attention to their hard carry and do not farm the camps on their path + stack for them.
Legend here, can you make some videos on supporting? I only ever see carry videos, but as a support, these don't really do much for me. I do find a lot of the time I'm standing around doing nothing, just waiting for something to happen. My carries are just farming, so there's no where to farm
you should learn all the roles to some extent, if you applied the knowledge in this video it will improve your overall game understanding and make u gain mmr
@@sebastianGunnarson71 It's not a role thing, it's a hero thing. The only hero I enjoy playing is AA, and I don't like playing core AA. So I'm basically locked into support
good video
that mentality got my supports very mad
Do you can show your hotkeys aswell?
lmao all my team just shit talking, "until when farming?" when they all kept dying in a war
Even if you spam heroes (which is the most effective way to gain mmr imo), it would still not be certain that you'll be climbing mmr. At the end of the day its still a 5v5, its a combination of different things and mostly its just luck with your teammates whether you like it or not.
I had 15 winstreak for spamming 3 different heroes but that is still not enough because I end up teaming up with people who is either practicing a new hero or just not really good enough for the rank and I ended up having a losestreak.
easy to say...but while in higher mmr brackets there are stacks n in lower mmr brackets there are supports takin the farm
Obrigado =)
KUDOS TO YOU
ty for advice, nice video. but it doesn't work if teammates just don't want to end the game. they gon run around the map and wait till 55 minutes. then enemy becomes stronger and u loose.
Good, but in the first few minutes what you were saying is that if you touch water you get wet. After that its good tho
And there is my support lion farming triangle rather than defending tower for his ags
So I tried this in a couple 2k games. They all went about the same. I focus entirely on my farm, meanwhile mid and off lane get absolutely dumpstered. Loss all t1 towers in the first 10 minutes, their team then spends all their time hunting me down so I can't farm. Still managed to get about 180 cs by 20 minutes despite getting insta gibbed trying to farm but by that point my team was completely destroyed and the gold from all the feeds had their carry on par with me. Game ended at about 25 mins. Not saying this is wrong, but clearly there's a little more to it and I'm doing something wrong.
This exactly 💯 Coupled with teammates that buy stupid items. Once had a kotl going 0/14/0 in under 25mins even the enemy sympathize lmao
I'm a safelane player and I'm currently in Legend 4, This video helped me out a bit about learning how to last hit but I'm hoping if you have any idea what to do on losing lanes, because sometimes even if I lose the laning phase I still get the job done in the end, I just wanted to know if there are some other ways to win even if you lost the lane :(
Just don't tilt, don't tilt your teammates and try your hardest. When you're winning it's very easy to overextend and make mistakes, so by not tilting you're allowing yourself and your team to capitalize on enemies overextending. I've came back plenty of times in games where the lanes are lost hard. It's all about mental strength.
@@eloquence5134 This is very helpful, I'm trying not to tilt every game, I even had SF pos5 and I tried to make it work but it ends up us losing but I kept my cool and tried for next game, and now I just ranked up to Legend IV and Hoping I could reach Ancient I, It just bothers me sometimes that I lose around 10-12 minutes and my lane has been pushed towards Tier 2, I saw a video from BSJ on how to win from that type of scenario where you get beaten to a pulp then magically recover after 10 mins. I was hoping PainDota could share something about that scenario, I would love to see it.
@@eloquence5134 "Try your hardest" What kind of useless tip is that? If they guy is feeding his lane you don't tell him to try his hardest, you tell him to get the fuck outta there and start chopping some jungle creep salad.
@LifeBoxGaming I'd glue my eyes to the minimap and if they show somewhere I go opposite from them. I'd either farm away from the enemy or towards. Depends if my team has hands or not.
" I still get the job done in the end" well.. you got the job done, so where is the problem? apart from that, there are just 2 ways to deal with a lost lane anyway.
1. just farm more, 2. if your hero is not a fast farmer and something like battle fury would take too long to farm, just skip it and buy an item, that helps you to fight like bkb, to join your team in fights asap. this works in this patch especially well because kills give alot of gold right now. t.e, when i played slark, lost the lane really hard and farmed myself a bkb min 15 to join the fights fast, i was able to kill the supports (who would just kite me, if i had a farming item instead) and snowballed from there.
He said in the video that if you lose your tower you just fall back and farm the outer camps, while taking the waves when they push in.
Can you please make a guide on how to farm when you are behind, for example one of the enemy cores starts to snowball and your jungle is fully occupied by min 15. How not to get locked in base? Thanks!
Hello, with the new map you can just farm the side jungles or the enemy map.
Call gg and destroy item like EU rank #1 Mr CCNC 😂
Buy a smoke, go to the enemy jungle
Just to play devils advocate, I paid for the privilege to have a professional Dota 2 player ( 4 x Major Winner ) to play on my team. He played on my spare crusaider account, and I played on my archon account. He went 6-0 with SF in mid, and we still lost the game because our pos 1 AM fed his lane. When you team is trash and feeds, it doesnt matter how many last hits you get. Not even the highest calibre player with over a decade on the pro scene and a 6-0 lane phase, can outweigh a shit team.
As a mid player on heroes like QoP, Storm, are the last hit goals the same ?
Not exactly, but you should be above 120-130 cs at min 20. Compare it with pro players and see how much are they getting on average of 10 games
corelation doesnt mean causation. one could argue that you would die less in a game you are winning so your gpm would be higher.
does this applies to midlane too?
Do you think getting 180cs by minute 20 consistently is doable with carries like lifestealer or slark? Which are supposed to be involved more in average than a PA for example? Or do you directly recommend to not play that kind of carry.
If I build maelstrom or radiance on lifestealer I can achieve that amount of CS but I am not playing that hero to it's strengths in that case I think.
Lifestealer, yes. Slark probably not because he relies more on fighting. If you ignore everything, then it is also possible on slark
It's more consistent to farm creeps than it is to kill enemies, so I guess it's generally better for climbing in lower elos to just play farming carries.
@@lucasmitchell9027 Finally someone gets it
The thing is if you copy high elo player gameplay for example slark they will join war as much as they can. Why not recommend for low elo, because low rank player respond to a teamfight bad compare to high rank player their respond is fast and prio to protect their carry while focusing on killing enemy core. So the best way on playing carry is the pick hero that easy rely on farm instead of teamfight
@@lucasmitchell9027 I just almost lost a slark game because I stopped farming. I was like 5/0 in the lane, and went for ganks after I got mkb. (pa&wr) It worked at first but then they started 5 manning and my farm was weak and I almost lost. Had to rat dota a bit to win. At the same time I had 30 essence shifts so that's like a whole item in itself. If I had to do it again, I would rat dota farm from the moment they all showed up to the first team fight.
@paindota the scenario that always happened for bracket divine and below is when you play carry, your support actually destroy your lane. For example when you try to make the equilibrium for the creep your support will keep agro the wave, or they never pulling when creep is pushing. Worst case they will just leave u at lane 1v2 enemy, i dont have any problem if my hero get lvl 6 early and i can just go jngle. But the problem is your support share xp with you untill lvl 3-4 and he left you and its obviously pos 4 enemy will outzone you while offlaner enemy d9 all creep.sometimes it happened that i literally cant do anything at lane and cant even reach lvl 6 by 10minutes because of this. What will you do in this case?
This question is specific only for laning stage because sometime when this happened you literally got stomp even you go jungling either pos 3/4 enemy will hunting and disturb your farm
@@teh_oais6437 lets imagine you dont have a decent supp and you cant even lane under tower. heres a simple recipe for pubs:
1. buy yourself an observer ward and place it between where you want to farm and where your opponent would gank you from.
2. if someone wants to gank you in there, you will see it and you have to scream into your mic for help before theyre even close to you because the team is typically rather slow.
3. enjoy the counter gank
@@ladderlappen4585 i got your idea thanks, but gank is not the problem for my question, basically i ask what will u do if u have to 1v2 lane at lvl 3-4 while enemy pps 4 outzone you while their offlane farming and d9 creep and small camp was blocked. If you said just get XP and lvl 6 go jngle i believe with all the d9 from enemy make your level process so slow and u cant even reach lvl 6 by 10min mark. So for the first 10min u literally cant do anything except hug tower while watching creep got d9.
When farming on side lanes early in a 2v1 scenario: 1. Push and pull. 2 . If warded try to deward or go stack the camps adjacent and farm them till the wave is back under your tower. 3. Don't die or try to minamalize the downs of your early match ups. This should do 80% of the time
how did you know the ideal good carry cs each time? pointing at 02:18
Based on my own experience as a carry player and watching other high rank players. There is a lot of farm available on the map. If you aren't playing super active, you have 0 excuses of not achieving these numbers
nice
very good. but i reach those goals every game and still am legend.
But there is an exception: if you play tempo carries like seeker - you can connect to fights and earn more gold from kills, help your team, etc. It all depends on the situation. If your team is pushing - you have to farm somewhere near them
As a legend player, my problem as HC is my own supports and offlaner farming every creep and jungle camps.
it depends on heroes, but a lot of carries have tools to farm dangeroes zones, if you cant get 200 at 20 min it means youre not farming dangeroes zones enough, it matters a lot cos nobody on your team can contest ur farm on these dangeroes zones without dying, lifestealer, jugger can tp out almost any time, slark have pounce and ult, am has blink, morph has waveform and morph, spectre has ult, mk can stun and jump away, on naga, tb or medusa with fast manta u literally cant get below 200 in 20 mins cos these heroes farm quickly half a jungle and a lane at the same time safely and quickly, if you cant do micro its your fault, like i said supps or offlaners cant farm dangeroes zones like u, they cant steal that farm, ofc they can steal some of the safe farm but on at least these illu heroes you have uncontested farm on these dangeroes zones, cos you can farm those lanes and some of the jungle in any game, even if you are booted out of the lane you at least try to afk farm 200 creeps through farming patterns instead of insta losing trying to recover chasing fights, if you cant get 200 at 20 its only bcos of you, you didnt farm good when laning, didnt farm dangeroes zones enough when you could, sometimes you just dont see those opportunities or dont have skills or instincts yet, to be honest im just like you, dont see those when im playing and not skilled enough to lane 1 vs 2, but i know im bad, cos there are guys like 23 and Watson who have 13k mmr and there are guys like us, you can always get better
@@ayaalnovgorodov8619I'm envious of people that can play TB, PL and Naga. I just know getting good at them is my final ticket to hitting Immortal(currently 5.3k)and my good micro with CK illusions is wasted since I don't truly have another Illusion hero to capitalize my skills on.
You dont understand how hard do guardians and crusaders try to deny xD. They prioritize deny above their own last hits.
"You dont give a fuck" Best advise ever
Very informative video but i think theres a small mistake at 12:40. After the lane creep scaling nerf on the new map/patch and buffing jungle creeps i think the carry gets more farm in the jungle after finishing his farming item
How do you set your health bar settings like that?
Search for HP Decay command
Idk man its possible but some games are just lost cause. Mid and offlane tier 1 destroyed under 10mins then enemy kept pressuring me with nowhere to farm plus team with stupid itemization