As a Christian, I love wearing the veil and dressing modestly. I agree with what you said in the beginning about how some women throw on a veil and still wear immodest clothing and wear makeup. I don't see the point in wearing a veil if you're still going to show off your body and cause others to lust. May christ open the hearts of all women so they will embrace modesty 💗
God bless you, sister. Do you know other women who veil like you do? We made a little Discord server, if you're looking for fellowship with other Christian women.
@@pringl3112 If you could please send us an email at Ignatiusofantioch777@gmail.com and we can send a link to join that way. It is a server for only women
I'm the same way. I am a Christian who covers from head to toe and people mistake me for being Muslim all the time. I'm the only Christian who dresses this way that I know.
@@sarahannsqueaks4283hello, fellow covering sister here, I haven't quite felt the courage or muster to go the full body veil myself. I continue to pray on it and His will for my life. If you live in America, I am sure this is definitely not easy to do.
The men who came up with the idea of a fixed canon and decided on which books would be included based their decision almost entirely on what the ante-Nicene Church Fathers said was or wasn't Scripture. The Church knew which books were Scripture long before any council in or after the 4th century declared what was or wasn't Scripture. I know that Matthew wrote his respective Gospel because the Ante-Nicene fathers recount the same tradition and story, and the men involved in the councils that followed centuries later only knew Matthew wrote Matthew for the same reason.
@@ante-nicenechristianity Hi again. I have 4 questions: 1. Why do you reject the council of Nicea? 2. Also, by whose authority do you judge councils or interpret the ante-niscene fathers? 3. Are all Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and other further sects unsaved? 4. Finally where would you fellowship with other believers?
@@JakeASU The council of Nicaea was convened 12 years after Christianity became legalized by Constantine. Prior to that, Christians had been persecuted very heavily with the worst tortures. When Constantine finally brought peace, he started dedicating many temples to the Christians' use, and he gave a salary to the bishops. He offered to help the bishops resolve conflicts by inviting them to large meeting places where he would sit and mediate in matters he had no business interfering in. The first time he convened a council was in 314, the council of Arles. By the time the council of Nicaea came around, the bishops had become boot-lickers of Constantine and were writing letters to him asking him to punish with civil punishments anyone who disagreed with them. Both sides were asking this on the Arian issue. At first Constantine burned all of their letters, telling them it was embarrassing for them to act that way, but he complied with their requests and exiled many Arians. Then, a few years later, he changed his mind and exiled bishops he now disagreed with. Athanasius, who was one of the first to be exiled by Constantine after begging him to exile others, got what he deserved by inviting Constantine to mediate in matters that were none of his business. 1 Corinthians 6: Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers? In the early church, anyone who wanted to become a catechumen needed to give up public office. Constantine wasn't even eligible to become a catechumen, let alone a Christian, let alone a judge over other Christians. There were multiple sins committed at the council of Nicaea, but also some righteous canons decreed (2, 6, 9, and 12) which were in line with the early church, which the church immediately began to disobey. The Catholics eventually claimed Rome had jurisdiction over the entire world, men were ordained as bishops on the same day they were baptized, and Christians were suddenly permitted to go to war, even commanded by their bishops. If you had eyes to see, and if you studied church history, you'd see the hundred+ ways the church departed from orthodoxy after Christianity was legalized. - Luke
If women are supposed to be veiled and modest, are we allowed to wear colourful clothing? I was always taught Christian modesty meant plain coloured clothes without design.
@Lillianmoss26 Yeah, we've started buying plain white shirts and all that to wear. Better to be simple. It's also good to not have too many clothes also.
@@i-have-a-dream-without-media "Nor is it seemly for a woman to wish to make herself conspicuous by using a purple veil. If I could but wring the purple out of all the veils, that passersby might not turn to catch a glimpse of the face be- hind it! Yet, such women, who weave almost the whole en- semble of their wardrobe, make everything purple." Clement of Alexandria, Instructor, Book 2
Do we truly desire for all glory to go to God? The woman's hair is her glory. She's instructed, clearly, to cover her glory(her hair) in corporate worship because the angels are eagerly watching she needs authority on her head. Only God's glory should be seen during prayer and prophecy. Is it really that hard to understand? Man is the glory of God, why would you cover God's glory? Why would we not cover another glory to allow for only God's glory to be seen? Judge for yourself, would it be ok for a woman to be displaying her glory when all glory is to go to God?? Ephesians 3 Paul says "I was chosen to explain to everyone this mysterious plan that God, the Creator of all things, had kept secret from the beginning. God’s purpose in all this was to use the church to DISPLAY HIS WISDOM IN ITS RICH VARIETY TO ALL THE UNSEEN RULERS AND AUTHORITIES IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES. This was His eternal plan, which He carried out through Christ Jesus our Lord." Because the angels are watching, we have an obligation to do what is written to us because we are being studied and we represent Christ!! Because it's an apostolic teaching in the New Covenant. Because God gets ALL THE GLORY. If we ever want to see the power of God displayed in the church we need to understand the headship order and order of authority and the spiritual realm!! We need to let His glory shine!!
Get a grip of reality, woman. Paul says, "her hair is given to her FOR A COVERING." That's the purpose of hair, to cover. "If a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her." In other words, if a woman covers herself, it's a glory to her. It's not complicated. Women like you enjoy showing off their beauty. But God tells you what is truly glorious: hiding your beauty!
Did you even read my comment? Yes the hair of a woman is her glory. But when we're in corporate worship we are to give all glory to God, isn't that correct? Paul says for the woman to cover her glory because of the angels because we're in a spiritual covenant and the heavenlies are watching the church for God to display his infinite wisdom by.
@@Angie-fn8op Ma'am, do you not wish to please God? Your hair does cover you partially but it does NOT cover your faith. Please veil it, regardless of what others may think. Only what God thinks matters.
What are you talking about? Gnostics were a condemned heretical sect created by Simon Magus, a sect which John the Apostle called "antichrist." We are not gnostics. Does our submitting to the authority of the Church fathers (accepting what they say about the veil and modesty) seriously make you think we are gnostic?
@@ante-nicenechristianity What do you advocate for in regards to Church attendance? Even the most conservative people around me are Orthodox, RCC, and Mennonite. Where would you recieve Baptism, or the eucharist? Where would you find other Christians?
@JakeASU Attending a temple dedicated to a schismatic man is not the same thing as attending Church. Church can be held pretty much anywhere private and its location could potentially change from Sunday to Sunday, this is possible because Church isn't a building but the body of Christ gathering together. We gather together to edify each other, to keep each other accountable, to confess any sins to one another, and to partake of the Eucharist. But if you attend any one of those sects you mentioned you will be receiving an ineffectual and polluted sacrifice from a sacrilegious priest. None of those denominations can offer you anything of value with their sacrifices, only damage you because they are contagious. Read the Church fathers for yourself, read them completely. If you read them you will flee an evil priest.
I’ve noticed you guys have been making more videos very glad
As a Christian, I love wearing the veil and dressing modestly. I agree with what you said in the beginning about how some women throw on a veil and still wear immodest clothing and wear makeup. I don't see the point in wearing a veil if you're still going to show off your body and cause others to lust. May christ open the hearts of all women so they will embrace modesty 💗
God bless you, sister. Do you know other women who veil like you do? We made a little Discord server, if you're looking for fellowship with other Christian women.
@@ante-nicenechristianity Thank you. Sadly not in person but I know lots of women online who cover themselves properly. I would love to join.
@@pringl3112 If you could please send us an email at Ignatiusofantioch777@gmail.com and we can send a link to join that way. It is a server for only women
I'm the same way. I am a Christian who covers from head to toe and people mistake me for being Muslim all the time. I'm the only Christian who dresses this way that I know.
@@sarahannsqueaks4283hello, fellow covering sister here, I haven't quite felt the courage or muster to go the full body veil myself. I continue to pray on it and His will for my life. If you live in America, I am sure this is definitely not easy to do.
It is upsetting to those who hate the truth. But it is of no surprise considering how narrow the way is.
If you reject the council of Nicea do you also reject the biblical canon? Because it came even later.
The men who came up with the idea of a fixed canon and decided on which books would be included based their decision almost entirely on what the ante-Nicene Church Fathers said was or wasn't Scripture. The Church knew which books were Scripture long before any council in or after the 4th century declared what was or wasn't Scripture. I know that Matthew wrote his respective Gospel because the Ante-Nicene fathers recount the same tradition and story, and the men involved in the councils that followed centuries later only knew Matthew wrote Matthew for the same reason.
Yeah, methinks that they was sellouts. Much like politicians they were bought and paid for.... What say you?
@@ante-nicenechristianity Hi again. I have 4 questions: 1. Why do you reject the council of Nicea?
2. Also, by whose authority do you judge councils or interpret the ante-niscene fathers?
3. Are all Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, and other further sects unsaved?
4. Finally where would you fellowship with other believers?
@@ante-nicenechristianity Very true
@@JakeASU The council of Nicaea was convened 12 years after Christianity became legalized by Constantine. Prior to that, Christians had been persecuted very heavily with the worst tortures. When Constantine finally brought peace, he started dedicating many temples to the Christians' use, and he gave a salary to the bishops. He offered to help the bishops resolve conflicts by inviting them to large meeting places where he would sit and mediate in matters he had no business interfering in. The first time he convened a council was in 314, the council of Arles. By the time the council of Nicaea came around, the bishops had become boot-lickers of Constantine and were writing letters to him asking him to punish with civil punishments anyone who disagreed with them. Both sides were asking this on the Arian issue. At first Constantine burned all of their letters, telling them it was embarrassing for them to act that way, but he complied with their requests and exiled many Arians. Then, a few years later, he changed his mind and exiled bishops he now disagreed with. Athanasius, who was one of the first to be exiled by Constantine after begging him to exile others, got what he deserved by inviting Constantine to mediate in matters that were none of his business.
1 Corinthians 6: Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers?
In the early church, anyone who wanted to become a catechumen needed to give up public office. Constantine wasn't even eligible to become a catechumen, let alone a Christian, let alone a judge over other Christians.
There were multiple sins committed at the council of Nicaea, but also some righteous canons decreed (2, 6, 9, and 12) which were in line with the early church, which the church immediately began to disobey. The Catholics eventually claimed Rome had jurisdiction over the entire world, men were ordained as bishops on the same day they were baptized, and Christians were suddenly permitted to go to war, even commanded by their bishops.
If you had eyes to see, and if you studied church history, you'd see the hundred+ ways the church departed from orthodoxy after Christianity was legalized.
- Luke
If women are supposed to be veiled and modest, are we allowed to wear colourful clothing? I was always taught Christian modesty meant plain coloured clothes without design.
@Lillianmoss26 Yeah, we've started buying plain white shirts and all that to wear. Better to be simple. It's also good to not have too many clothes also.
I don't see anyone of the fathers interpreting it that way. Therefore yes, you may wear colors.
@@i-have-a-dream-without-media "Nor is it seemly for a woman to wish to make herself conspicuous by using a purple veil. If I could but wring the purple out of all the veils, that passersby might not turn to catch a glimpse of the face be- hind it! Yet, such women, who weave almost the whole en- semble of their wardrobe, make everything purple." Clement of Alexandria, Instructor, Book 2
@@ante-nicenechristianity Thank you!
@@ante-nicenechristianityWhat about men? Can men wear colorful clothing?
Do we truly desire for all glory to go to God?
The woman's hair is her glory. She's instructed, clearly, to cover her glory(her hair) in corporate worship because the angels are eagerly watching she needs authority on her head. Only God's glory should be seen during prayer and prophecy.
Is it really that hard to understand?
Man is the glory of God, why would you cover God's glory?
Why would we not cover another glory to allow for only God's glory to be seen?
Judge for yourself, would it be ok for a woman to be displaying her glory when all glory is to go to God??
Ephesians 3 Paul says "I was chosen to explain to everyone this mysterious plan that God, the Creator of all things, had kept secret from the beginning.
God’s purpose in all this was to use the church to DISPLAY HIS WISDOM IN ITS RICH VARIETY TO ALL THE UNSEEN RULERS AND AUTHORITIES IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES. This was His eternal plan, which He carried out through Christ Jesus our Lord."
Because the angels are watching, we have an obligation to do what is written to us because we are being studied and we represent Christ!! Because it's an apostolic teaching in the New Covenant. Because God gets ALL THE GLORY.
If we ever want to see the power of God displayed in the church we need to understand the headship order and order of authority and the spiritual realm!! We need to let His glory shine!!
Get a grip of reality, woman. Paul says, "her hair is given to her FOR A COVERING." That's the purpose of hair, to cover. "If a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her." In other words, if a woman covers herself, it's a glory to her. It's not complicated.
Women like you enjoy showing off their beauty. But God tells you what is truly glorious: hiding your beauty!
Did you even read my comment? Yes the hair of a woman is her glory. But when we're in corporate worship we are to give all glory to God, isn't that correct? Paul says for the woman to cover her glory because of the angels because we're in a spiritual covenant and the heavenlies are watching the church for God to display his infinite wisdom by.
@@Angie-fn8op You're deaf.
@@ante-nicenechristianity Worry not brother, Christ was hated also.
@@Angie-fn8op Ma'am, do you not wish to please God? Your hair does cover you partially but it does NOT cover your faith. Please veil it, regardless of what others may think. Only what God thinks matters.
Praise God for this warning!
So you're a gnostic or something?
What are you talking about? Gnostics were a condemned heretical sect created by Simon Magus, a sect which John the Apostle called "antichrist." We are not gnostics. Does our submitting to the authority of the Church fathers (accepting what they say about the veil and modesty) seriously make you think we are gnostic?
@@ante-nicenechristianity What do you advocate for in regards to Church attendance? Even the most conservative people around me are Orthodox, RCC, and Mennonite.
Where would you recieve Baptism, or the eucharist?
Where would you find other Christians?
@JakeASU Attending a temple dedicated to a schismatic man is not the same thing as attending Church. Church can be held pretty much anywhere private and its location could potentially change from Sunday to Sunday, this is possible because Church isn't a building but the body of Christ gathering together. We gather together to edify each other, to keep each other accountable, to confess any sins to one another, and to partake of the Eucharist. But if you attend any one of those sects you mentioned you will be receiving an ineffectual and polluted sacrifice from a sacrilegious priest. None of those denominations can offer you anything of value with their sacrifices, only damage you because they are contagious.
Read the Church fathers for yourself, read them completely. If you read them you will flee an evil priest.
childish argument. Perhaps YOU are the gnostic, ninja