BESTIAL SLING with two Clawmark seals makes you a FULL AUTO SHOTGUN
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Bestial sling is pretty fast on its own, but we can do better. By having two seals, you reset the cast cycle allowing you to rapid shooting only the first cast instead of going into the rapid fire animation if you just mash R1 (which is slower)
Ah yes, my long awaited 'pocket sand' build has arrived.
BRUH that's such a fitting name!😂
Shi-shi-shahhh!
I'm gonna put some rocks in your eyes.
@@animalxINSTINCT89 I love that yt suggests me to translate your comment in English lmfao
This deserves top cment placement
Something to consider: You should occasionally use the double one handed cast as a mix up. I noticed the opponents learning the timing of your "super fast shotgun" style. Fastest isn't always bestest, when they learn the timing. Slow it down every once in a while to keep'em guessing. Just another tool in the box for this awesome build!
What do you mean by "occasionally use the double one handed cast as a mix up"? I didn't quite understand. You mean cast twice from the same seal or is this another technical term? Please clarify.
@@Kjetilstorm Yes, you got it. Twice from the same seal because it is a bit slower. Just enough to offset your timing and possibly land a roll catch. Just throw it in occasionally instead of always alternating.
@@TuberTugger ahh okay, I get it. So the variation forces your opponent to constantly adapt, rather than doing timed rolling. That makes sense. Thank you.
He was doing that in the video. Right at 2:00 in that fight
@@taurusfire2083 Damn, literally did exactly that xD..
Good suggestion for others that didn't catch it, Derek, I didn't notice it either til Taurus tagged that time mark. But yep - Giga was already double casting same seal to roll catch.
There is an animation bug where if you jump and cast it mid air it will cast twice at once. Caught a lot of people off guard with that
Wait really? Didn't know! I should try that
If I recall, crouch casting is similar?
I’m pretty sure it only works when jumping down inclines. Or am I wrong, and there’s actually a sweet spot to get that to work?
@@Meri637 there's a sweetspot
That also happens with catch flame, pretty sure you have to land on a specific frame. I could get double flame consistently by doing buffered jump casts, and it does a lot of damage.
I still wish we could charge bestial incantations, it would've been awesome if Stone of Gurranq could be an even bigger rock.
beast claw would like a word
Needs to have a bigger ground-shaker aoe to make it worth using, with big damage for direct hits with the stone itself
Maybe charging it would extend the range and increase the speed of the boulder
Or when if you could’ve charged it into a Boulder dunk
BEHOLD...... BIG FUCKING ROCK....... FOLLOWED BY BIGGER ROCK
When the weapon art says No skill.... Even the game Bullys u, ur never safe
I mean... The game's right as this requires no skills😂
Hahaha i came to the comments to say exactly that 😂
I’m just use rivers of blood because it requires less skill
you use RoB for spam
i use RoB to cosplay as Samuel "Jetstream Sam" Rodriguez
we are not the same
@@semdaniel6878 i tried that and even specifically made a point never to use L2 (unless i see chuggers or rune arcs) i still get alot of point downs when i die im like 'bitch im limiting myself through cosplay dont act so smug you almost died to normal katana moveset' ugh ROB spammers have such bad rep
Fun fact: Use the bow talisman (increases bow effective range) and your slings will now go into sniper mode
Seriously? Is this true?
Physical projectiles (including magic spells)
OMG !
WHAT!!!😂😂
I like how it says "No Skill" in the weapon art bar
The game is sptitting facts😂
Bestial sling is pretty fast on its own, but we can do better. By having two seals, you reset the cast cycle allowing you to rapid shooting only the first cast instead of going into the rapid fire animation if you just mash R1 (which is slower)
I cringe at the amount of salt you must have gotten with this. Bravo mate.
And get double damage boost
Also fun fact if you jump and cast sometimes you shoot twice with one spell usage
What song is this?
Maybe just go and try it ??
I feel like there is no escaping the power of magic in this game.
Just use a sheld
I hear what you're saying, but may I propose big stick with royal knight's resolve?
It's funny, I have a character that does both of those.
That’s why they put bloodhound step in the game duh lol
@@Jdoug305 i call it the "make elden beast tolerable" step
Does this Bestial sling thing increase in damage the closer you are to the opponent? Like an actual shotgun? It must be a thing probably...
i want to say yes it does, but i'm not too sure. I might just be doing counter hit damage with it or something
Actually no; it usually hit twice mid-range, but can hit only once point-blank sometimes.
close range = more projectile hit so yes more damage? idk for sure tho
I'd say yes since I have to be within half of my max range to hit 400 or else I do 100.
From what it feels like, it does. The closer you are, the tighter the spread AKA more hits. It also feels like it has some damage fall off
I do not fear the man that has practiced 10,000 kicks, I fear the man that has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
As the great Khloe Kardashian said.
Man seeing myself get demolished makes me happy ngl u know lemme try your build is looks really fun i got two of those
Works with Swift Glintstone shard too, it has the added perk of being able to move between casts unlike being stationary when casting only from 1 wand
You can move with one wand... That's swifts entire utility
if this becomes meta ill cry
...I'm sorry
Id rather see this than more Rob bleed builds or bhs
@@GigasThiccas Is not your fault, in fact by pointing it out a bunch of casuls will try to abuse it and (maybe) fromsoft notices this and nerfs it.
The fact a lot of people flung themselves into pain stream trying to attack through it says a lot about the way most people play this game.
They just want to brainlessly tank damage and two shot you.
I've been walking in as the tank with the defensive incants and great shields and a large thrusting sword. Quickstep/bhs aow for fast reposition with no skill on shield. I never expect to two hit. I hardly expect to hit at all lol but people will try to break my guard and one good poke normally makes them back off a smidge. Until they attack my shield and get another poke. If they pull out a parry shield, I go for the backstab. If they go for cheese, I dash out of the way. Simple, yet effective so far.
I may have done the same thing thinking I could tank it to get a hit in. Surely the same player wouldn't try that again lol
@@ClonserHalphalive this guy lol
@@Zola_The_Gorgon well... It's not like it's the FULL pain that I receive... But I guess I do fling myself into pain. At least I can hit through it all!
I'm going to have to try this out in PvE. Looks really fun. I have to say though, it does feel pretty cheap and unfun to use in PvP. I can see a lot of players just quitting out to not deal with that. A greatshield and Pierce weapon would work, but then you're forced into fighting 1 way just to survive this.
Absolutely true. I just collected the clips and skipped this build for a fun fist weapon build
Lemme know on the PvE I was curious about it ,too.
Tell me how pve goes
@@GigasThiccas Certainly nothing wrong with messing around with it for a little while in PvP. Proves how effective it is. And even if this is a bit cheap for PvP, I adore just how many different options are available to get creative with builds and various combinations.
@@joshs2734 Problem is, barely anyone actually gets creative with it. Instead, you get bleed build # 4026 and exploit user # 244
1:06 he got destroyed so fast the audio started corrupting
Yeah... My pc didn't like the build
Credits for A(Mogh)us for creative name
Also if it has poke type maybe try using spear talisman?
Something similar works with ambush shard (not that it's good), and also the haima hammer (although cast speed not necessary for that one). Essentially anytime where your cast speed is such that casting from neutral faster than chain casting, or you just want to avoid a high-recovery chain cast, this strategy could be useful.
I love the guy at the end who just acknowledged it
Pure honor
You’re the reason shields are now mandatory for all my pvp builds. Also you may not know this but you’re probably getting double the seal damage boost. At least with giants flame incantations and their seal the two bonuses stack. That doesn’t make your build broken tho since ciquendea does the same effect and it’s intended... your build is still hella broken just for the other reasons...
Yeah I'm aware of the seal buffs😂
60% more dmg
I may be wrong, but I think you can actually get cinqudea's buff even if you don't have it as an active weapon. So you could theoretically get 3 bestial incantation buffs running at once.
@@philipfahy9658 It won't work with cinquendea
@@cwapisme i thought it was 10% per seal, and since it stacks with each other it should be around 21% more.
We did it boys. We brought back Dark Bead spam from Dark Souls 1
The beast Titan would be proud of ya Young Man
Well I know what I’m doing for the next 2 days. Right when I ran out of my own original ideas I finally get recommended an interesting build. Thanks g (;
Not gonna lie im totally digging the background music.
KOF 15 like a queen btw :)
This looks like one of those builds I would like as long as I am the one using it
Pretty much any bullshit build is fine as long as you're the one wielding the bullshit lmao
With dual claw mark seals, and the flocks talisman you ate dealing 1.3x the damage as regular. Very powerful
The evolution of the ultimate pocket sand strategy
A(Mogh)us has given me a brain aneyurism
nice shotgun though
I laughed way to hard when I saw their name
@@valiebro Same😂😂
Thiccgun
I feel like your Ash of War is roasting this cursed build.
Not cursing, but spitting facts😂
Ah yes, Quagmire with his signature move in fighting god armor, rock spam.
We really need more stone-themed spells in the game. My personal quest to create the ultimate Earthbender must be achieved.
No way brother! I was the guy you killed in your first match lol! I had never seen anything like that before, sorry I couldn’t give you a proper fight
Hey ggs and no problem! This build is quite hard to counter unless you have a shield
@@GigasThiccas yeah gg, I laughed about it for awhile afterwards, that was good bro
I'd boost the damage with talismans that boost incantation and physical dam, then use erdtree favor as an additional buff. Plus the physic has stuff to buff the spell too, making it hit way harder. Change damage for the mace talisman, and you get poise damage higher than the best armor.
fun pointer: This is roughly the same firing speed as the Bulldog shotgun in Halo:Infinite, airgo, you made the Bulldog Shotgun in Elden Ring
ergo
@@virtualmartini ergo henceforth visa vi
imagine medieval times: Legendary knight, sir of stones known for picking up coarse dirt and blasting the opponent into submission
This looks so fun man, I’m going to try it
Be ready for salt tho
@@GigasThiccas Yeah, in my experience even using normal sling for a kill will get you saltmail
@@Personell101 OH well. If you aren't getting salty messages are you really playing PvP to the fullest?
careful people don't like fun in PVP
perfect, just what miya envisioned for all of us
"It's pitching assault is an unprecedented awe-inspiring weapon"
Discovered this the first week and now everyone's going to know... Thanks
Sometimes I wonder how From designs their spells. A spell that is very slow to cast, should not be interrupted when the enemy hits you.
Likewise, a spell like this that is super fast AND cheap should never stagger opponents. This stuff is so basic and would make for a much more balanced game.
This game is by far the least balanced souls PvP game of their entire lineup. A stark contrast coming from the most balanced PvP game being DS3.
That though, is completely fine. Elden Ring was made for a wider audience and with a bigger scale so these things sometimes go overlooked. Doesn't excuse the piss poor balancing of Bleed and Int builds but its an explaination.
If you want balanced PvP, play DS3 and use a Lothric Knight Straight Sword alongside Black Knight Shield.
@@arthurmorganlefaye7626 2x R1 the game > L2 the game
It's actually built the reverse way for what you think is basic, too.... A very slow spell is interruptible for it's damage, if it can't be interrupted, it's just a "who hits harder, lets see!" bomb. Likewise, this fast spell staggers so that a mage can punish a mindless charge forward. Mind you, if someone bloodhounds or quicksteps with a zweihander, they can poke you out of this. And if you're using the normal version of the spell which is slower casting, even a regular roll could do it.
I can see their logic though; it's a short range spell that does quite little damage. Staggering is pretty much its intended purpose, it's just not intended to be this fast. When used normally, you can easily get through it if you know it's coming, or outrange it with your own more damaging ranged attacks.
@@firstnamelastname6699 wdym you didn't use farron beyblade sword
Lol I remember this moment. Was wondering what you had in your hands.
Man I figured this out a while ago and people didn't know how to handle it. Glad to see someone document it so everyone can find out!
I feel like the best part of this video is the player who named their character A(mogh)us
Imagine you go to pvp someone and they just throw a bunch of rocks at you
That sounds pretty funny ngl😂
Best ending, 10 Gigas overkill out of two baguette+2's.
He had enough and you know what...? I respect that😂
This was a really well made video. If you keep using this editing style and video making process I have no doubt your channel will grow.
This is just wizard of legend at this point
So that mean i aint playing PvP a whole week again
...I'm sorry
"Invaded by Dale Gribble"
Athena theme somehow fits so well with people throwing rocks at shotgun rate
you can do this with dragonclaw as well to throw people off. Alternate between casting it with left and right hand, the major issue is stamina consumption.
Mages using two staves can take advantage of this as well. Cast gavel of haima, alternating staves. You gain crazy hyper armor but it takes a lot of stamina as well.
Staves and catalysts can work in concert as well. A Gavel of haima can be followed up with dragonclaw pretty quickly and the neat thing is as long as you don’t finish the Gavel combo or dragonclaw combo, you won’t be stuck in an animation and can dodge roll immediately after casting.
there's also a glitch with the sling where if you jump from high to slightly lower elevation, you'll shoot two desynchronized slings in one cast
-tested in the mountaintops
The build i didnt know i wanted but want
“No Skill” is fitting.
Y'all are gonna make me use up all my larval tears because this looks so fun
After watching this, I'm just bummed I didn't farm the duelists in Leyndell for their armor... It really does look so cool.
ng+ I guess😖
@@GigasThiccas Yeah definitely, that's still miles away though. Gotta beat this undefeated swordswoman I keep hearing about... 🤔
you can get the rotten varient still from consecrated snow Fields my guy
parts of it are garunteed drops if I remember correctly, like to the west of the town that gets you to the haligtree you can kill one for the legs, theirs a dungeon for the torso that's a sick cape etc etc
Sharing broken tech with everyone is the best way to get loved by few (children who are finally able to cheese a long craved win) and hated by many.
it’s pretty easy to beat though, an ash of war with hyper armour will smash through it and especially if you have ranged options you can outrange it easily
@@ScrodumHat everything is easy to beat, there's enough exploits for everyone
@@Lucky_B4stard it’s still not really that much of a broken tech, there’s a lot more broken shit around than being able to throw a handful of rocks slightly faster
@@ScrodumHat so does that mean you agree with my initial statement?
@@Lucky_B4stard what part of my comment made you think that
Time to rename my character to "Benelli M4 Shotgun" and invade
If Dale Gribble was a pokemon, this would be his final evolution
The op thing of this spell is that deals too much poise damage for being this fast. You should be able to tank throught 1 use and hit the dude if he fucks up and casts too close I think
It definitely feels more geared for PvE, in my own opinion.
I disagree. I think it should stay the way it is as a means of keeping incantations relevant in PVP in comparison to sorceries. Bestial sling is also an extremely effective tactic against bloodhound step spammers.
@@kevinmabryii3091 there's dozens of relevant incarnations, I slap with the golden ones... but even I think bestial sling needs a poise damage nerf... it's to fast and to spammy. You should get the damage, but not the stagger to balance it.
@@kevinmabryii3091 i like playing against a bloodhound spammer more than a beastsling spammer. One still has to time his attacks and worry about his range and the other one is just one button.
@@milten76 I almost never struggle fighting any bloodhound steppers since most are actually brain dead and get easily parried and roll caught, but I absolutely hate bestial sling users.
I used to do this with bloodflame talons.
Does that increase the casting speed as well?
My wife decided to test this theory with spells instead...... Adula's Moonblade is absolutely broken with 2 staffs 😳
that sounds terrifying
My dude I love your quality faith build. I gotta try that.
please god im already tired of bestial sling as it is pls dont let this build be meta
...I'm sorry
Play a fighting game lol. I've been murdering people with sling since launch. It's cheesy as hell but shields do ok. Best 1v1 build is this or staggered sling in left with BHS on something like a rapier.
@@Lancer1369 that sounds like complete AIDS bhs should be banned from duels
If you jump at a right height and angle, you can actually launch two bestial slings instantly. Yes, it does use double the mana. I believe the height you need to jump off of is barely (I do mean barely) higher than the flat ground jump/land height.
I subbed the moment the music started. I've no idea what it is but it's got the vibes.
I'm literally amazed by how much new shit comes out every day for viable pvp options on this game
1:46 A(Mohg)us LMFAOOO
RIGHT?!😂😂😂
Welp. I'm about to figure out some game breaking tech (again)
Here to abuse this on my giant dad build. I found out that if you unlock and alternate between holding straight back at the start of the cast and straight forward when the shards release you can throw the cone from the side and behind you instead of just in front. It’s probably mostly useless but it looks cool.
Having two seals lets you do this repeatedly which is nice.
dont forget that casting with the same seal in the second hand also boosts the incantation strength even higher than before
My god, I wouldn't blame someone whipping out a great shield and poker against that. Honestly I love how spells are more useful than DS3 but man they went too far.
I still don’t get what the idea was behind a speedy spell that you couldn’t poise through and can get to the hundreds in terms of raw damage. It’s like with straight swords, mainly ds3 ones, where you could dodge the first swing but not a second making the weapon good for low skill play.
The fact it says No Skill on the left makes this all the funnier
Fromsoft really was like: “And when everyones super, no one will be”
You can jump in use the ability
Now this is a toxic gameplay
The apology at the end was necessary 😂
Don't lie. You created this monster with no remorse
I'm sure you know the strength of 2 handing seals but this could possibly be stronger if you have 2 more seals offhanded. That would be sick to see in a video lol
Why? Does the other seals incat saling add to the damage too?
no. doesnt work
@@xKuragu beastseal scales with strenght
@@xKuragu yeah, if you stack seals they multiply the damage. So offhand a couple more claw mark seals and you use any of the beast incantations or if you're more of a strength build you'll see more damage. It's even stronger too if you also add the flocks talisman and that other one I forgot the name of.
@@MK-vi2cm not how it works
holy fuck thats me im the last guy in the clip no way
Oh......
There are no limits to the amount of ways you can break this game
You just have to be creative
Fuck this incantation. Melee builds already have it hard enough.
I like that this build also reminds you youre bad by having no skill permanently on the left
The game ain't lying man...
i hate this spell, not bc its bad its bc i cant dodge it in time once im running. i see the animation but that double press on roll isnt fast enough to roll it in time.. thats my only complaint about this spell
Use bloodhound step lol
Its really fast yeah
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Player 2 Stop.
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Player 2 Please stop.
(Player 1 takes a deep breath.)
Player 2 Doooon't.
Player 1 For you see, long ago, this pebble was forged in the fiery pits of Tartarus, by the grand blacksmith of Lucifer himself. In a time before the world began...
(Hours later. The sun is beginning to set, and Player 1 is still rambling while Player 2 is sitting.)
Player 1 ...And thus, Mardoza, Guardian of the Pebble, fell to his knees, and passed from this world, leaving behind the mighty weapon. For he knew that one day, its power would be required once more.
Player 2 Are you done?
Player 1 Yes. But the legacy of the pebble lives on.
My God... This COMPLETELY changes up my Geomancer build I was going for!!
what this actually turned out to be: a showcase of how ABSOLUTELY SHIT the poise system is that some of these guys rocking big poise and good hyper armor moves got one-tapped out of it by this (supposedly) low poise damage spell. Honestly it is a joke.
the real joke is that people have such low skill and pride or integrity that they they’ll play this way because it makes it easier for them and harder for the opponent. which sounds fine in love and war but it’s supposed to be a balanced video game bruh. Mages SHOULD have options to break poise because mages get 1-2 hit while warriors don’t. But it shouldn’t be in a busted ass way like this.
@@Youngmuniii Like I said, this spell is supposed to be relatively low poise damage probably about equal to R1 from a one-handed straight sword.
@@ShiningDarknes that’s an assumption about poise. there’s no reason an incantation that requires an entire equip slot to be viable have little to no poise-break, especially when a warrior can easily eat it without dying with poise or not. and all they need to do is land 1-2 hits to kill the mage.
the issue is that of the speed. you can see that it’s balanced, even bad at its initial stage. and then it’s OK when used to it’s max potential with the shield, or dagger. but this is clearly an oversight from the developers and wasn’t intended to be used this way or be so spammable. there’s very little room to counter, and most people won’t have their character set up to be able to switch builda/eqps on the fly to be able to deal with it.
@@Youngmuniii No, it isn't an assumption. I am comparing its ability to do poise damage to players to its apparent poise damage to enemies which while different is a decent comparison. It deals somewhere between fist weapon R1 and SS R1 poise to bosses, that is it takes a shitload of them to stagger a boss. So that is where the comparison comes from. With most weapons and spells if they take a ton of hits to stun a boss they are probably around SS poise to a player.
You want to see actual oversight do this with stone of gurranq which has a similar cast-chaining time. Though double casting it may have been patched I know for sure on-release it was just as nutty though it takes way more stamina so you can only get off maybe 6 rocks and they are way easier to dodge.
and having 2 seals add up bestial incantation bonus damage isnt it...
You can use 2 beast seals or 1 beast seal and cinquedea since it also adds dmg
@@Just_B0red oh shit cinquedea add beastial incantation damage ??
@@holmesholmes.8784 yup 10%, also has ok dmg and scaling as a weapon, but it's a dagger so not everyones 1st choice
@@Just_B0red yikess
:)))
mom can we build shattering steel in next league of path of exile?
son we have shattering steel build
also what most people seem to miss, is that if you have two of the same seal/staff out, it's damage buff to a specific spell school, bestial incantations in this case, applies twice, once for each seal/staff, which is not inconsiderable. so if you're using any kind of spells as your main damage tool, consider dual wielding the appropriate casting implement y'all
PvP in ER is nothing but a meme at this point. I'm worried this is never going to change though, since a lot of these meme mechanics apparently were intended... For what purpose? Maybe they just wanted to create their most casual game to this point to appeal to the masses of first time players and gave in to the game journalists craving for an easy mode... Just not in the obvious way of adding a selectable easy mode but instead adding the tools to make the PvE game itself and all the previously feared elements of online playing trivial, if you want to.
PvP was never the game’s priority. If anything, I’d say the game already has an abundance of weapons that are good only in PvP or are way better in PvP.
The real culprit here is the dick slinging number war that fromsoft used to make enemies extra difficult. Everything deals a ton of damage, stats and armor barely provide protection in the endgame. The only concession to players was to give them the option to be cheesy as well damage wise.
So you have a situation where there are builds that can destroy enemies with tens of thousands of hit points in one blow as long as they have time to do all their pre pull setups, builds like this that can attack relentlessly, or builds that can do bonkers burst damage. Of course players with 2200hp don’t stand a chance.
We’ve seen this time and time again whenever devs add PvP in a PvE game. The numbers and mechanics just don’t align, but they keep doing it anyway because it’s a selling point.
Even PvP focused or exclusive games have balancing issues. So we can’t expect mishmash approaches like this to ever be polished.
@@iatwiatw Have you ever played PvP in any other FromSoft title? None ever had this level of absurd imbalance. And there's several mechanics that differ in effect in PvP or PvE. For example the "physical damage reduction talisman", it gives you like 10% absorption buff against PvE but a hit from a player almost doesn't get reduced at all. This shows me that some devs still have the right ideas when it comes to balancing things for both, PvE and PvP. It's not necessary to have a weapon deal thousands of dmg to a boss and do the same to an other player. Bleed for example was always calculated as %HP dmg, so it was dealing thousands to bosses and hundreds to players. These things can be balanced better and then there's still hope.
@@Lucky_B4stard These games have always had broken PvP bro. I just think you have rose tinted glasses on. With how much more expansive this game is, and how many more items/spells it has and combinations/playstyles it allows, trying to "balance" it would be a monumental task. Not to mention probably result in neutering half the cool stuff in the game.
@@damianwomack4668 very casual opinion "bro"... Every DS has a competitive community for a reason.
@@Lucky_B4stard Idk, I think the PvP community just has to get good. Almost everything complained about so far has a counter available to most builds. They actually gave everyone so many tools. And if everyone is OP, no one is OP. Also, what do you mean about bleed, that's still how it works, it's %HP dmg.
Gonna have to get this spell to add to my kit. Watching the showcase for this really strikes home that you want to have a shield and a long range option as a back up on any build you play. Most of them just tried to roll through or around your attacks and got punished. Basically zoned them out.
That last guy really said "Congratulations my good sir, you have achieved cancer!"
I know your hate mail was maxed out lmao
At the end I noticed the "no skill" ash, and chuckled.
Ngl pretty cool build, I enjoy these broke ass builds, even moonveil katana and rivers of blood. Anything that just obliterates really 🤷🏻♂️.
The "no skill" tho is the meme part, big-ups.
Local man turns throwing rocks into a martial arts.
great... I was thinking this game didn't have enough spam builds so this video is super refreshing.
Bully Maguire's dirt technique is too powerful.