How the Carnival Cruise Outbreak Went So Badly
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2020
- Carnival Corporation has been one of the companies hardest hit by the coronavirus, with more than 1,500 confirmed cases from its cruises and dozens dead. This is the story of Carnival’s Covid-19 nightmare, as told by passengers and by Bloomberg Businessweek reporters Austin Carr and Michael Smith.
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( ಠ▃ಠ) Hell no, I’d rather drink a pint of Lysol than read your dismal corporate news.
Thanks Mike
Thanks Mikeyou are the best who is your vice president of the United States it's Maria
What about all the transmission nightmares on planes? Tell that story as well!! That was the number 1 cause of the pandemic spreading so rapidly , not cruise ships.
Your ass should stell be ther
Worst time to save $$$ with a inside windowless room.
prison - now with sea sickness!
So right. My cruise dreams are over.
I’d lose my damn mind
That was what I was thinking.....
I couldn’t even imagine being in a room without a window for that long!!! I’d go nuts.
Bloomberg REALLY missed an opportunity not naming this report, "Carnival's Coronavirus Cruise Calamity".
Nah, that's overdoing it. Cruising Towards Catastrophe keeps the alliteration at an acceptable level.
eggizgud lol
eggizgud lol
Can’t wait for someone to make a horror movie out of this in a couple years
If there's anyone left
And video games lol
KyleTVProductions that sounds sick I wonder what the mechanics of the game would be
The horror movie is now. Douche
This will go down in history
That is completely BS they knew what was happening around the world and still they decided to go on the ship
Agreee
Exactly
For Americans, they wouldn't have known any better. From Jan thru to March 2020, Fauci repeatedly downplayed the virus. If he wasn't telling Americans the risk was low, he was telling young people to go ahead and take a cruise...the DAY BEFORE covid was declared a global pandemic. So, I have little faith in these "experts".
@@isabellind1292 not true! I had a cruise booked for first week of March and canceled because of Covid!
@@beresponsibleplease I don't care whether your cruise was cancelled. It's well documented Fauci told young people to go ahead and hop on a cruise ship on Mar 9th (I stand corrected when I said the day before)two days before it was declared a pandemic on Mar 11th. Yes, true!
What I have learned from all these cruise ship nightmares, anytime they say "we have it under control", they don't..
I have no sympathy for the people getting on a cruise even after COVID-19 was declared an epidemic. Even after the Diamond Princess, they still decided to get on a floating death trap. Yes Carnival did a horrible quarantine job, but the passengers needs to protect themselves first.
I don’t understand why people are so mad at how viruses spread on cruise ships. They have always been like, but no one complained before the pandemic. Why should we complain now?
Many of these cruise ships weren’t offering refunds or an ability to move their dates. My family and I were scheduled to board one week after the diamond princess and only 1 day before we were ready to set sail did they offer refunds/date changes (which we took). The cruise lines failed the passengers because they weren’t giving people an option even though we were in an epidemic/pandemic at the time as well as the insurance companies (since they didn’t cover epidemic/pandemics...no joke)
WellDonePotato uh because now we’re IN a pandemic and how and where viruses spread becomes extremely relevant lol? what kinda dumb statement is that. uhm guys you never cared about this NEW virus before it existed so why do you care now that it actually exists uh wow so illogical lets just pretend its not there thatll help oki
Marie You do have a point.
It didn't mention the Ruby Princess. That mite be due to all the investigations/ lawsuit's that going on at this moment in Australia and elsewhere.
they went on a cruise knowing there was a pandemic because they wanted some more vacations this year. It's on them too
Solid Orphan So cleary they were asking for it 😂
A vast majority of people responding to posts on social media said in late February that they were going on their cruise regardless. Anyone who pays attention to any form of media saw this coming in February.
Right! Except it's not on them "too". It's only on them. Why does this fool think it's Carnival's job to educate people about their own health?! And if they had cancelled the cruise, the people would have been mad then too. Can't win with sheep. The masses are truly asses
Unpopular opinion but idk if the general public knew how serious COVID19 was until things actually started shutting down. I didn’t get the seriousness of it until mid March. That could explain ppl going on cruises dispite the warnings.
Kerry Cutler you guys have to understand that cruise ships will take all or most of your money if you decide to cancel. That itself plays a major role on these event.
Baffling how many of people don't know how to properly wear the face mask!
It’s baffling how many people think they actually do anything!
I would have cancelled my trip.
any sane person would. These people didn't give a shit and paid the price for ignorance in the face of a pandemic
A month and a half ago I was set on going to turkey because we were supposed to go in july. Obviously its not happening and plus I definitely ain’t going now. But some people rarely get the chance to go on cruises. So some people are rarely left with an easy choice.
Let's see you say that when its either go or lose 5k
@@maryyjanee247 MY LIFE or 5000?
Which one?
@@leiacha2482 it's not that easy but I mean if you have that money to spend I'll give you my cash app and you can send me those 5k
Rookie numbers. My ship has 1,300 cases. USS Theodore Roosevelt baby!
Shouldn't be public info.
drew 876 have you even glanced at the news in the past two months orrrr? This has been public knowledge.
@@njpme who are you to make that decision
Next time something like this happens they need to stop all travel in and out of countries as soon as an outbreak is announced. People on ships, planes, etc need to be quarantined until it is 100% okay for them to return home. Doing that will keep life normal for those countries without the virus.
@@sncy5303 is that right? What does the left like to do. Put fear in people and spend the tax payers money.
When President Trump canceled flights from China the left and Democrats calling him names and were telling people everything was OK👌. Maybe you should rethink what you said about the right wanting to kill people, SN CY.
@@06accordexl Left or right it doesn't matter. Outside of America it is impossible to tell. Don't stop fighting each other until there is a clear winner. It is the American way.
Ignorance isn’t bliss, it’s bloody hilarious 😂
Wtf don't say that
The most eerie place to hear Chopin Nocturne
That is what I thought. Creepy. My favourite music of all time. I switched off in case it began a bad memory.
Im a cruise enthusiast.....had an Aladka cruise for this month of May on the Ruby.
I'm healthy and no medical conditions......there is no way I would've boarded that shio .
I can’t believe the older couple still went smh. They had more than enough chance to stay home
Yeah old asses just had to go
possible the tough no refund policy forced a lot of them to go . refunds or cruise credits only got given if the cruiseline cancelled.
@@leerag They weren't 'forced'. And how much does a funeral cost?
Elder people are actually more likely to task risk health wise because at that point they know they are in their twilight years. Elder people actually have one of the highest rates of STDs because they are less likely to use protection because they don't care if they catch it. They have the attitude that it is going to end soon for them any way so might as well just live and have fun .
Bloomberg - Brilliant love the music at the beginning. Great reporting. Your team can be proud of this excellent, anti-advert for cruising...😀😀
What a beautiful piece. Is it Chopin, maybe?🎹🎵
What's worse: a corona cruise and dying from COVID-19, or a poop cruise and dying from dysentery?
LOL the poop cruise was definitely worse.
ewww both
How many of them thought they were smarter as everybody else?
How people continued to go on Carnival cruises after the poop ship fiasco in 2013 is BEYOND me! People were living in sheet tents on the decks and defecating into plastic bags for god's sake! If you're stupid enough to go on a Carnival Cruise after that how in the world did you expect them to take care of their passengers during a pandemic?!?! 🤦♂️
They decided to still go on a cruise knowing about what happened with the diamond princess.
Is it just me or the Bloomberg reporter’s reporter voice is just way too cheerful
I would be surprised if Cruise industry can rebound in 3 years.
I would put a bet on that the industry collapses completely and cruises become something people used to do.
Congress gave them billions in bailout money and they don't pay taxes, they'll be fine
@@juicechronicled2451 The cruise industry is notably excluded from the White House's $2 trillion economic stimulus plan, and it will not be receiving a bailout.
Those companies usually register their ships in a “Flag of convenience” country (eg: Panama), register the company in a tax haven country (eg: Bermuda), and employ their staff from a low-wage country (eg: the Philippines).
They’ll be just fine (without taxpayer bailouts).
@@ClayMann Agree. Cruise lines fly under flags of convenience, like Panama and Liberia, to avoid many U.S. taxes and regulations. Congress isn't going to bail out foreign companies. If the cruise lines need a bailout, they need to ask Panama or Liberia.
If you went traveling in the month of March. You got what was coming to you.
WTF are people thinking cramming together with no way out during a PANDEMIC!?? oh, PERFECT time for a cruise!
Don't forget that Disney did not shut down until March. I cancelled my cruise once Disney did, that's when it really became real to me.
Having lived in Orlando for years, we knew if Disney closed down, it had to be a serious threat. Even for hurricanes, we pay attention to Disney's reaction. LOL.
Imagine watching this years from now as a documentary
Coronavirus 🌏world epidemic:
Nobody should be 🚢cruising!
nobody should be going to china or letting chinese people into their countries due to the china19-Virus.
So what is the protocol for guest who test positive ? We will be quarantined for sure till the next port/hospital. Medical insurance does not cover covid. How do we get back home?
I went on a cruise at the beginning of February I feel so lucky this didn’t happen on my ship
think i def dodged a bullet too mine left same day as diamond princess jan 20th finished 3rd feb . luckily it was nz cruise, the only cruise i would do as i dont want to go international at all.
What a nightmare, a sad one, I love cruising.
Can someone please tell me what the song name is which starts at the beginning? The piano music is beautiful
I went on a cruise 10th March from Jamaica to Costa Rica and then when we were meant to dock in Panama we ended up stuck at sea for a week until the UK Govt asked Jamaica to take us back so that we could go home. Crazy experience.
Great example of people not knowing what actually happened. Carnival Corp IS NOT CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES! Yes Carnival Corp owns MULTIPLE cruise lines including Carnival, Princess, Cunard, Holland America’s Costa, Aida, Seabourne, and P&O. But these were Princess Ships not Carnival ships. Each company has slight differences and essentially operates on each owns terms. Carnival Cruise line actually has done a magnificent job at responding to COVID-19 and continues to make sure the health and safety of crew and guests is number 1. Stop throwing up images of Carnival ships when not a single one was ever quarantined or had confirmed cases.
Cruise ships when the last thing on your bucket list is kicking the Bucket
Massively underrated comment champion, that's gold! Keep up the good work haha
At minute 4:20 the guy says he has done around 2,000 cruises at 2 or 3 per year. At 2 per year he has been cruising since the time of Christ. I wonder if they knew each other.
Cruise passengers aren't usually the brightest - if they were they'd be able to organise their own holidays rather than having to be shepherded about in a floating shopping mall for a week.
Went on a short 4 day cruise out of Long Beach Feb. 24-28 and another March 2-6 (long story). Federal officials were in the terminal on both occasions we were asked to fill out a questionnaire and sign it. Four or five questions and sign it. "Have you been out of the country in the last 3 weeks?" etc etc. The 100th case in the U.S, was confirmed the 1st of March and cruising ended about 2 weeks later. Lots of arm chair quarterbacks.
Carnival built their own problems. All of Carnivals problems EVER have been self created.
Keith Jones this is so true
They will be just fine
They're going to have to dock and deep clean, give it time for people to get comfortable and trust cruising again. They haven't taken enough assured steps in response to the virus
no deep clean is going to change fact that air ducts go cabin to cabin
As mentioned in this video, cruise ships have dealt with SARS, Zika, constantly battling with norovirus. How is it that they're supposed to know this is different, especially when many countries (in particular the U.S.) who had more knowledge of the truth of the situation hadn't shut down the cruise ports? Something like this hasn't happened in more than 100 years and most governments were still seeing this as an Asia problem, not a global problem. But everyone expects cruise lines to have seen more clearly? And the ships with the worst crises had left port before or around the time the depth of the problem on the Diamond Princess was starting to be understood. But that ship had a lot of Asian people on it so it was still seen as primarily an Asian problem.
Hindsight is 2020. Why do so many people forget that when they're in the mood to bash and blame someone?
devastated
I would never do a cruise no way even before this.
Ur missing out they r amazing during normal times 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
Its carnival that company sucks
@@travisstoudt8723 They've always had outbreaks. Usually it's norovirus, but that's still a no for me. And even before Covid, I stated I would never take one. This is not how I want to 'travel'.
@@shammydammy2610 ur missing out I’ve been on 15 cruises they’re my home away from home now I am not that much of a air traveler
@@travisstoudt8723 That assumes that I want to travel the same way that you do. Trust me, if you love cruises, I don't.
It is easy to point a finger and say should have, could have. This was a fluid situation, I have confidence in CCL that they made the best judgement call at that particular moment.
i have promised myself never ever in my life will take a carnival cruise. so much goes wrong with their cruises!
I'm not a carnival fan but this is like saying you'll never fly because there are always issues. If 99% of cruises are perfect you won't hear anything. You hear about the 1% that have problems.
Why does carnival always get into shady stuff lmao
yea lol. carnival contributes more to global warming than all the cars in europe combined
It’s not there fault
dduewe it’s a cruise ship with a smokestack the engine needs breath just like cars all cruise ships do it not just carnival
It’s the passengers fault for going on a cruise ship during a pandamic
@@baddriversofgeorgia3387 yea but it's mainly because they dont need to follow a lot of normal environmental regulations, they could reduce it so much so easily
thanks for the stock tip Mr Bloomberg
any time Snowflake.. any time
So scary.
I was on the last cruise Carnival had out of Miami. They did an excellent job. Temperature screening at the gate, extensive cleaning, hand sanitizer everywhere.. etc.
I've no doubt cruising will be back.
Ouch
Virus: **is literally picking off cruises one by one**
Carnival: The show...must..go..on
I have a cruise in October and still haven’t decided if I should go
Too risky I think
I was on a cruise in November and got very sick with a bad sore throat and cough for three weeks .I was given a Zpack for 5 days and cough syrup.
You prob had Covid-19, we just didn’t really know about it, it was the first “wave” of cases since a lot of people said they went through the same thing around November and December and nobody knew what it was, so we’re actually going through the second wave of cases 🙃 so glad you’re okay and you should go check out your lungs when everything ends to know if your lungs are okay
All of this Covid crap aside Carnival is kind of notorious with virus outbreaks in general (like Norovirus and the Flu) among other issues their ships and the ships of companies they own really makes me hesitant to cruise with them again. I normally do RCI instead
try, land.. dont use straws and shush
What do You expect from an industry Centered around The Ancient Romanesque Culture of Sloth and Gluttony
not all but youre probably right, i had people saying i really didnt get the concept of cruising when i did my one and only. i slotted in half marathons at whichever ports it stopped long enough at. less kms if i knew i would be risking it time wise but always got at least 10kms in per stop. my only lazy days were the 3 sea days
@@leerag Yeah, we took a mid size ship to Alaska and we did not go for the partying and stuff but it was pretty beautiful and honestly, the cuisine was out of this world so I can be fine w/that being probably the only cruise I'll ever take.
Even the nocturne sounds ironic and funny.
Don’t forget about the Ruby Princess in Sydney!
should’ve y’all about the westerdam and how they let passenger disembark with no tracing methods in place. only temperature. then ofc a few days later someone from that ship tested positive.
When is a documentary or coverage of this industry going to call them out on their notorious record for respiratory illnesses? They have form here.
0:41 I was on that ship last June...
LOL from the title, for a second I thought "Nightmare" was the name of the cruise ship. Come putt around the ocean on "Nightmare" and maybe you won't fall overboard...
Last thing I would do during a fucking pandemic is boarding on a cruise
Neglected Carnival Corp... Won't cruise on any of their lines.
America still hasn’t handled this crisis
Rali272 thanks to that clown
This cruise finally refunded me the money they still need to send $200 and I’ll be done smh they took for ever
they didn’t even mention the ruby princess!!! THAT was severe corruption
YES THAT WAS TERRIBLE
Another thing to the list of why I don't like Cruse ships
'they'll all get tested' 'some chose not too' zaah what?
uh ! The Westerdam was never mentioned here
There goes my graduation present to myself. Oh well...
OK, so the next time I have the opportunity to choose where I want to go on a vacation, and my choices are "a big floating petri dish packed with people" or "out in the middle of nowhere with nobody anywhere nearby" … guess which one I'll choose.
I just went on the ship on the thumbnail back in February
From now on ima buy the expensive rooms so i don't get stuck in a 10×10 ft room
Ugh this is horrible. Cruises are awful even at the best of times, this is a nightmare
china is awful and chinese people are the worst people in the world at the best of times. Its comments like yours that make me smile and cheer and laugh when a chinese person is bashed, attacked and verbally abused.
"A cascade of people coughing" Nope, mm mmm no uh uh, no no no! No! Hell naw! NO!
Didn't matter if they had free rome in the ship ventilation system had been contaminated
remember trumpy saying leave the ship in the harbor...he LIKED the number where they were?.. we do
I remember Dr Fauci telling young people to go ahead and hop on a cruise ship on March 10th, THE DAY BEFORE covid was declared a global pandemic.
CCLQ?
There was a time when cruise ships were smaller, held no more than 200 passengers, and only rich people used it, but now you got a lot of poor people cruising too. Same is true with restaurants. Restaurants were only for the kings, queens, royalty, and wealthy, but now you have the proletariat a being waited on for food. What used to be rich problems are now everybody’s problems.
Nice of you to forget the ruby princess now over 20 deaths and 600 infections, 23% of all COVID death in Australia came from that ship
Weather on land or on ship you still need to have a 14 day quarantine, You were fed and you were safe. So what the big deal? Where is the horror?
I think viruses spread more easily on cruise ships. Plus, people need their medication refills and have things to look after at home. Being stuck on a ship and needing to get off would be a literal nightmare.
4:10 guy said done 2-3 cruises a year if you’re lucky. Then u say you’ve done an insane amount of 2-3k cruises. U get lucky or you don’t 🤦🏼♂️
I had plenry of reasons not to go on cruises. This just sealed the deal NEVER
Pretty weak report.
I think a movie will be made based in this
The cruise companies were not only at fault the passengers have to take responsibility as well
U forgot The Ruby Princess in Australia
what its the name of the music?
No it's Chopin - Nocturne op.9 No.2
! :) one of my favorites.
Chopin - Nocturne in E Flat Major (Op. 9 No. 2)
@@user-wx3om4xj5n you right👌
@@user-wx3om4xj5n thanks :)
Whos here during may 2020
I don't understand why Panama didn't want the ship to go through the canal. It's not like passengers were going to spread the virus from aboard the ship as the sailed through.
10:33
Listen to what he says
Hey its the virus that likes to play invisible tag !!
Not sure what travel I will do after the Coronavirus crisis is over but traveling on a cruise is definitely not one of them.
They should’ve taught the passengers how to put masks on properly before they got off that ship 🤦🏼♀️
Fun fact. Many yachts cost more than even the most expensive cruise ships
Could you give an example, please? Most of these ships are 500 million+
That’s miss leading some yachts are more expensive than a cruise ship. Less then 10 yachts can come close to the price tag of a cruise ship.
The people who were trapped inside cramped windowless interior staterooms should be given compensation.
I came to the comment section to see any comments saying “ fake news “ 😂
10:35 VERY poor choice of words.
Why does the world meter only show 46 cases???
And this is May 21, 2020!!! Something is wrong with the numbers!!!
eww
This is basically how the COVID came to New York.