Jaron Lanier Fixes the Internet | NYT Opinion
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2019
- Computer scientist and futurist Jaron Lanier has a plan to fix the internet. This Silicon Valley maverick has a radical vision for how we can all earn money from our data.
Every time you click on a website -- yes, even that ad right there -- a company is keeping a little bit of your information, and someone somewhere is making money off of it.
Lanier argues that every bit of data out there belongs to the person who created it, and if anyone should be getting paid for it, it's you. He has a plan to make this happen.
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Love this guy, especially his most recent book. He looks like an insane hippy, but is one of the most clear-minded and straight-talking futurist thinkers we have.
Yep good call.
dav_poy prepare your see more videos about hippies and futurists. 🤣
Same here. Such a humanist. Always wonderful to listen to him.
Yeah, and Jobs said LSD changed his life. It's almost as if the mainstream has been feeding us ideological propaganda nonsense for our whole lives....?
What is his book called??
This man has been here from the start of it all yet no one listens. I love this dude.
I feel like this guy is secretly from the Future.
This is what a futuristic hippy looks like
He has friends in the highest positions of these companies running the world. In a way he is from the future.
And that algorithm brought me here today
Michael wait til it runs full circle. I love paranoid spammers, don't you?
@@ilikepicklesandsuch exactly
You speak of it like it’s god.... All hail the algorithm!
Yang2020 - One of his Policies: Data as a Property Right.
Jaron Lanier does not support UBI and has said he doesn't like Andrew Yang quoting him. Jaron Lanier supports a different social construct he has created called a "MID".... and he also supports a different structure of the net that reflects Ted Nelsons vision
@@redrowolloftnod5230 Please just stop. Yang is giving this issue the attention it deserves. Better than any other candidate by far on this issue.
Plus, $1000/month for every citizen is the greatest single act to eradicate poverty the US has ever seen! Don't even get me started on automation...
@@Dudemar0 Everything I said is true. I have no reason to stop if what I said is true
#yanggang
Dudemar ... spammers are already creating a new society to profit er, waste. Uncle banana spam has upheld trash too long.
This is such a good idea. We need people like this in congress.
Sam Parks you can get a person like this for president if you vote for #Yang2020
@BAnonymous alaska. They got a oil dividend for 40 years. We also did and are doing small scale experiments in many places.
Lanier should be in Andrew Yang's cabinet. There needs to be a Department of Technology. Andrew Yang already says that he will be in touch with Silicon Valley folks to know what they are working on and try to point them in a different direction if what they are working on might not be such a good idea. We need a president who communicates with Silicon Valley and supports human-centered technology.
@@adamtrott78 Thats hilarious.
I listened to a talk of his a year or so ago and was convinced to delete all social media. No regrets, my relationship to tech is much better. Also his books are great.
And what is this then...
@@andrikosba2593 What is what?
RUclips is social media
@@ianhuman877 It can be considered that but it's not the same as FB or Twitter.
You are commenting on RUclips... feeding the Google machine ....
Since you now get this NYT you need to get on board and push Andrew Yang, the only candidate who groks this.
groks, nice
Haha what a joke. You really think all these people making money off our data are just gonna let us have that money instead? Get real
You do realize what they mean when they call this an "opinion" right
Again, Andrew Yang is ahead of our times and seeing this as a real issue. #YANG2020
Jaron Lanier doesn't like UBI and hates Yang quoting him> ruclips.net/video/fdohkulww0k/видео.html
Sad enough, we are behind the times and Yang is here to get us out of the 1990’s.
Hilarious, we have been screaming this from the rooftops while you had your head buried in FB and now that Yang was trending you finally got the memo. Well, it's too late now. We can't EVER go back. GOOD JOB on being ahead of the curve! .... BUT, if you go to his website now.... lol
Andrew Yang is God
"So long as people worship the Caesars and Napoleons, Caesars and Napoleons will duly rise and make them miserable." -- Aldous Huxley
If Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders had no chance in 2016, there is zero point wasting your time with Yang. If voting made any real difference it would be prohibited. #SadButTrue
He’s Post Malone’s ultimate evolution
*underrated comment right here
😂😂😂
Pre Malone, Post Malone, Post Internet Malone
@@eldano99 Home Malone
I had the chills watching this. Feeling his passion and dedication to a system that finally won't reward toxic contents sharing and redirect our general public debate towards a more sober and healthier path.
I really wish he's right. I really wish we still have time to steer towards Data Dignity.
Andrew Yang has a policy about data ownership. yang2020.com
He has 150+ policies all well thought out and explained along with his solution. Please feel free to skim through them.
"People who are afraid, people who are angry: they pay attention."
"What does it take to recognize a dystopia?"
Empathy for others. That is #1 what it takes to recognize a dystopia.
Ability to think deeply about matters. That is #2.
Personality traits scoring high on conscientiousness, mid-range on extroversion, and mid-range on agreeableness.
Those are my guesses.
@Mountain Whale Please tell how you expect to do that...create a society all will consider dystopian...when you have people with empathy who respect the social contract and the rights of others and those who prefer chaos and destruction (sociopaths and psychopaths) and ignore the rights of others?
I eagerly await how you plan to achieve this.
...and you fail to understand what empathy is if you think it's "hippy love". You may need to think a little more deeply and broadly before you grasp what it is and what it is NOT.
are we in a dystopia yet
@Mountain Whale Thank you for sharing your vision.
Great piece and incredibly compelling ideas!
Jaron was my next door neighbor for a few years during the late 80's in Palo Alto. How I wish I had had the life experience and intellectual wherewithal to discuss stuff like this with him.
Jaron - Please accept my apology for your cactus.
He seems like one of the most hug-able people
Freedom dividend and human capitalism is the best of both socialism and capitalism.
The freedom dividend is only the beginning of the new logic that is being portrayed here.
Freedom Dividend isn't socialism though. Both socialism and capitalism are old models people came up with before electricity. They couldn't foresee technology. We can evolve to be more than they ever imagined.
It goes beyond that, it is not just about economic retribution is about a whole re-think and re-valorization of ethics and morals in society. As nice as it sounds the freedom dividend is just a placebo for a cancerous society
Sorry, but that is a mall understanding of economic growth's prosperity to the herd as a whole...
freedom dividend is quite literally welfare capitalism, aka social democracy (capitalism with a social safety net), which in some sense can be referred to as socialism (if one considers the etymology of the term and doesn't just pick their favorite definition from google). I would argue it would simply be a bandaid on a much bigger problem, would further prevent wage increases and probably just placate the masses even more.
Your comment makes you sound like a social democrat which would align more with Bernie Sanders, who has spent his entire career trying to save capitalism by strengthening the safety net.
This new Korn content is strange
hhaahah
That's because it's Counting Crows.
lol
John Croucher PML
Was thinking My Dying Bride guitarist
"Data is the new oil."
Yep, and we already live in ever-increasing data/message pollution, heading straight for the Dystopia Jaron describes.(If we're not already there)
What we easily forget about Information is that it requires Energy to create, store and transport. Jarons plan sounds nice but it will just increase the huge amounts of energy already needed to run the Net, by adding another cascade of data energy from every single Info-event. Data centres use huge amounts of power, adding to the overall energy-use bill, and inevitably adding proportional heat to the system. Apple wanted to build a data centre in Ireland which would have used as much power as Dublin, the largest city of 1.5 million people....! ?
Haven't even mentioned how financial Power will act as it always does....to maintain itself, like banks, corporations seeking monopoly
Or the possible adverse mental health effects.
Remember the opening scene of Johnny Mnemonic where people were twitching and jerking from NAS(Nerve Attenuation Syndrome), or Information Overload....?
In the grand scheme of things more storage/servers isn’t much
don't forget the mental health implications this will create with more people being sucked into social media because they can get paid for it now..
@@Edvontinkleberg Even worse, with everybody selling data companies would pay less for it. Also, companies like exclusivity of data, it's the only major difference companies can have nowadays (explains Amazon failure in China, Apple behind Google in maps...). So they would offer it but with more controls and monitoring over user activity.
America: Did someone say oil?
You are dead on!! Sad to see all these idiots blindly celebrating this half cocked plan without thinking about how it is completely impossible to implement under the current economic and social system. These nerds in the comments are all cozy and middleclass and life has never really sucked for them. They think society is made up completely of other people like them. While the vast majority of people have had enough experience with life's hardships to realize the difficulties there would be implementing something even remotely close to this. It's pathetic. This is a distraction to make people feel better about doing nothing.
The algorithm is bringing the Yang Gang here. Where my homies at? 🧢
Here bro
What’s good fam 🧢
Sup cuz.
🧢✌️
Yes, it`s a trap. This is much much much much more complicated than this advertising flick.
I was literally talking to my mom about signing up for singing courses, next thing I knew 15 ads for singing classes appeared
I was watching the office on hbo and suddenly my Instagram feed was bombarded with the office content
word recognition..... best option is to used multiple machine with no access to your account... and delete history, cookie that kind of thing...
I said Chandelier and then add for that popped up
I need my data check!!! #YangGang
Wow man. Goodness gracious! This was WAAAAAAAAY better than I ever expected. It was like an epic Twilight Zone or Black Mirror episode. Scary, optimistic and hopeful at the same time. So sad this have to happen and need to happen. It is like digital slavery. Hey, come on to my digital plantation (platform/device/service), work for free (give me your data) and I will treat you nice, clothe you, give you a place to stay, reward you, etc. It is mind blowing to know that so many laws, jobs, fields of study, education, liberal arts, careers, sciences (e-sciences/digital sciences), etc, will have to be adjusted and invented because of tech. I agree with him, humans will always be around and always be needed; we will just be focused on other aspects of life we never dreamed of.
I stopped just clicking things and instead researched words and subjects that interested me. The entire algorithm shifted and I’m no longer wasting time watching people live their life. I live mine now. I’m back on the happy side of the internet again, full of suspicious knowledge and theories, with a hint of dark truth. I like to take it with a grain of salt. You have the power to change your mindset.
Andrew Yang is not endored by Jaron Lanier. Jaron Lanier has said explicitly that he wishes Yang would stop misquoting him.
1:51 I feel like this part speaks truth to how Twitter “recommends” tweets that are most likely to get a response from the user. So the user engages with the app longer as he responds to this tweet that might’ve angered or instilled fear in them. I realized this and use the app less now. And when I do I try not to engage with these tweets.
A voice of reason at a time where finding honest information is so difficult. Happy to have found you Lanier.
So true
Published in 2019 and still feels like a voice from the far future. Some great ideas presented here.
Love it and Jaron's last book is a quick and concise read that should be mandatory for everyone! But one thing that irks me: socialism does NOT mean "everything is free". The core of a socialist ethos is FAIR pay and an equitable society were certain core services are subjected to market pressures. I repeat: under socialism people would NOT WORK FOR FREE = they would get paid fairly for their contribution and services. LOVE YOU JARON!!!
Me: watches the social dilemma on Netflix
Less than 24 hours later: algorithms watching me send that data to RUclips
RUclips: recommends this video to me
Me: watches it and realizes 👀😲
One way or another, you have realized important knowledge.
This is kind of ironic. I now feel like I should get off RUclips.
Wow this guy just really did fix the Internet!!!
👏 👏 👏 👏
I just wish it could back to the way it was before the algorithms, when we actually saw the content that we wanted to see, based on who we were following
Data dignity -- badass name
Lanier is one of our most brilliant thinkers. We need more people like him.
Several people commenting on how the algorithms work in their particular favour...yet this video should have millions of views, not 80k. Among my family, colleagues and friends, all people I respect, the absolute majority has no clue about what they are a part of. If you're advocating change, having a clear understanding of your current condition is absolutely crucial - and we're lightyears away from that.
Very well said! Agree!
THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO COME TO THIS CONCERT TONIGHT, MAN
Worked in digital ads agency, and also use content marketing approach before.
His warning is legit, abit too late, it's like talking about human rights on digital space.
We havent even got everyone on board on the real life human rights today. So idk when this will change...
Check out Andrew Yang. He's leading the change.
Hi #YangGang! 😊👋👍
Jaron Lanier would make a decent president I'm quite sure.
This is an amazing video. From the subject matter to the production value. Great video
Data dignity. I want it.
#YangGang we are ready. Let's get our data checks!
The most charming, inteligent and serious man in the Planet.
This has been a problem for years and I'm surprised it's being addressed, frankly.
It wont be addressed on a larger scale because Jaron's buds in silicon valley are not humanists like himself and would like to continue devouring society for as long as they possibly can. This is just to make people feel good about doing nothing. You think facebook is going to start cutting checks? No. This plan has no hope of working under capitalism. The billionaire class must be removed and never allowed to occur again if we have any hope of redeeming the negative results of these technologies.
THAT WAS PERFECT
also.... #yang2020
Jaron Lanier is a freaking genius...for real. And, this video is the most important thing I've seen in years.
How does this only have 179k views?? This should have gone viral. This is so important to what's happening online today!
Why this doesn’t have views? Man I’m getting sick of the ads on my Instagram, they know everything I like, I talk about, I search I don’t understand how!
🤟🏼Take care of yourself Jaron... you’re getting really big dude. Don’t check out yet. We‘re in short supply of honest wisdom.
Yeah, this would work much better than basic universal income, and do a lot to curb the use of negative incentives to influence people's behavior online. Mr. Lanier is pretty brilliant, so hopefully something comes of this.
AquatiCGroupGraphics Sounds worse to me, people whoring their data. People are addicted to giving their data as it is, so if you add a financial aspect then everyone will become an influencer if the example of posting a picture is what he means. He talks of getting off social media in other videos but here people would get more addicted. I think Linier is very intelligent Im just sceptical of the solution.
This guy is a full wizard with the way he waves his hands
We humans sure can be knuckleheads, but whenever presented with big societal, economic, or political obstacles and problems we always find creative solutions. With all our accumulated progress, I believe these challenges are becoming less and less difficult to overcome. I predict a future of abundant options. We simply have to collectively choose to make our future abundant. The few in power are becoming obsolete. The masses are gaining ground.
I am not clear yet on exactly how our data translates to cold hard cash, but I do know it's valuable. I love this idea. Let's do it! Go team human.
I love the enthusiasm! Keep going!
This guy’s obviously got it all figured out
I want Jaron Lanier to live forever, or at least 200 more years. We need him around to help us deal with this daunting social media era we’re entering.
We need Wheezywaiter around to make us laugh too.
“I am certain that a dignified data economy is not an option but a necessity.” - Jaron Lanier - What an incredible vision, heart, and mind in one human being. I cast my proxy representative selection in our liquid democracy for this guy to lead the special advisory on human data rights within the new US Tech Sec Fed Commission.
ANDREW YANG
Dang, I'm so glad I found you today!! Now I'm looking forward to learning all about Jaron and earning from my WONDERFUL DATA!!
Andrew Yang is the only one who can make this happen on his proposal. The use of data should be considered a property right.
again we see why Andrew Yang is the only viable candidate
I want to maintain my data dignity now and forever!
Thank you !❤❤❤
Andrew Yang would agree with you :)
Jaron Lanier does not support UBI and has said he doesn't like Andrew Yang quoting him. Jaron Lanier supports a different social construct he has created called a "MID".... and he also supports a different structure of the net that reflects Ted Nelsons vision
@@redrowolloftnod5230 - So what, the fact that Andrew Yang has brought this reality to a broader audience in order to create a model forward is a positive.
This is my question:
Will not this ‘dignified data’ where you are essentially paid to go on your phone simply worsen addiction to social media, even if these giant tech monopolies now have some responsibilities to the people?
Exactly what I was thinking. People will live on social media
How does this not have more views
This video was so beautiful to watch and was uniquely engaging by how it played out the topic through different visual art forms that weren't rushed like much other news platforms are. The MID graphics display was very easy to understand and had refreshing icons. I was very pleased with this, and think I can hold an actual conversation about digital dignity. On another note, he didn't give a concise sure answer on how they would provide internet to the poor but replied saying they would figure it out when they get there. I couldn't go for this without knowing how they intend to preserve free internet. It gives too much autonomy and knowledge for all people with access to it to take away.
All of this feels like common sense the way he laid it out. However, I really doubt that the majority of the public will be informed enough to care anytime soon.
herro preasers Sadly... that may be true.... they did give us Trump. 🤦♀️
its like feudalism.. its nothing new
Andrew Yang for President 2020
Just over one year later, the video only has about 150,000 views. The algorithm doesn't want people to see this for some strange reason...
And here I am liking and commenting, while RUclips says "thanks very much for the data". Ha!
I'm sure the high priests of information and sophistication like you will tell us all about it in time.
the algorithm is making me want to vote for Yang
This should have 8 billion views
10:58 Wow! He said what I have been thinking for so long. “There will not be commercial incentive to incite these constantly.”
This is why we need Andrew Yang
I think there’s a widening gap between people heavily involved in social media and people who aren’t.
Hope.
No question.
I had this same idea as a pipe dream a while back when I first noticed companies were making money off influencing me to buy things using my data. Good to see it taken seriously here.
Very beautiful. Big Thanks!!!!
Will the cost of data dignity be whatever shred of privacy and anonymity we have left?
that's what I've been thinking too. People will sell out their entire privacy.
Leave Social Media NOW - protect your data income in the future.
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Got it. Where do I sign up?
His hair are like roots and he is like an old banyan tree spitting knowledge and truth.
Published on my birthday - a great gift!
At first I was like, hmm good to see Jonathan Davis not yelling at me 😂 jk
Could you guys recommend me his best books? Just discovering him and his work and it's a breath of fresh air!
RESPECT. It's all about adding value not subtracting, thanks for planting this seed ~
His looks are deceiving, he is one of my absolute FAVORITE speaker!
An oak tree was once but an acorn & thoughts are creative.
0:09 Data! haha Perfect!
You've really got your finger on the pulse. Amazing! Thank you.
This was an excellent video. Thank you.
I love this!! great idea!! I WANT DEMOCRACY BACK!!..also I love this guy, he is so kind and so intelligent its beautiful and I hope he has input in the way the future of this all goes down!!
RUclips Andrew Yang. He sees the future and has policy solutions to get us there. He also wants to preserve our democracy.
Yes #RUclipsAndrewYang
We deserve to be paid for our data! Yang 2020!
Jaron Lanier does not support UBI and has said he doesn't like andrew yang quoting him
Wow, very thoughtful critique.
Yeah.. I'm watching this right now and the first video recommended at the right side is your interview from channel 4.
I love Jaron Lanier and would love if he endorsed Andrew Yang for president in 2020!
Andrew Yang 2020!
Yang ripped him so he should hire him
I haven't even finished this video and I find it such an amazing concept! #datadignity
He's basically explaining how to make everything work like the music industry lol
Music is data, and it works just like this, when it gets used, and you set it up properly.
His warning is legit, abit too late, it's like talking about human rights on digital space.
ANDREW YANG 2020!!!
Thank you - an unbelievably kindhearted opinion - always looking for the best of human nature.
Jaron is an awesome, and also a funny guy. And not to forget, he is a genius. 😂
They can pay me by "giving" me free healthcare and money* by paying their flipping taxes!!
*Universal income
Move to Venezuela!
Only salvation is Free.
That's the ideal, but too far from our reality. If 50 years ago work used to keep the wheel spinning, today is just inequality and speculation. Unfortunately.
I just don't understand what Venezuela has to do with Universal income...
Check out Andrew Yang!!!
@@wafou8702 Get lost. People have real problems, here and now.
@@wafou8702 Venezuela printed new money to support their socialist ideas, which caused major inflation. No American wants that. Thankfully, Andrew Yang's Universal Income is supported through a VAT.
Venezuela created wealth from nothing = BAD
Andrew Yang re-using wealth that's already there = GOOD
Yep, Andrew Yang has my vote!
Someone or group build this platform, and I'll join right away.
I think the best thing to do is go back to the way the internet used to be in the late 1990s. It was just enough technology without it being overkill.