Amish Church Service Explained
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- In this video I explain how an Amish church service is conducted.
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Welcome to The Amish Potato’s Channel. My name is Cj Miller. I was raised Amish in Shipshewana, IN. I was Amish until I was 16 years old, when I started dressing “English”, drove a car and partied on the weekends. This is called Rumspringa.
I did this until I was in my late twenties. I then briefly joined the amish church, left again, and moved to Idaho where I discovered the truth of who Christ is, married my lovely wife and am now sharing my story on RUclips.
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I grew up Amish, more conservative. I still love those songs and I learned German in our Amish school, so I will translate this "Lob Lied", which means "Praise Song". 1st stanza: O God, Father , we glorify You; And praise Your Goodness! That You Oh Lord have graciously, Shown Yourself unto us! And have led us together Lord, To teach us through Your Word; Give us grace for this!
Thank You
Es hört sich wundervoll an!
Been to both Amish and Old Order Mennonite services
Beautiful.
I wish we as Christians would show devotion as such does the Amish, I have to truthfully say that I admire that part.
I'm not Amish or Ex but have spent a lot of time in the Amish Church. The reason the women turn their back to the deacon as he reads the scripture. This goes back to the old world the women would be seated near the window and it became their job to watch for authorities coming to bust the service. The minister would watch out the window from his vantage point the rest if the service. As a outsider the first time I saw it I was horrified to see the women turn their back on the purest word of God being spoken the Holy Scripture. It's why I made it my mission to find out. It took me over 3yrs and a elderly Bishop in his 90s told me as it had been explained to him as a boy.
In Christ Love
Bill
I remember that song well. You're right it does trigger feelings. However, if you have your own mind and intuition you will never be satisfied with what you are taught in the Amish church. I grew up a few miles from you, about ten years earlier, and I understand your sad eyes when you talk about your family, and how you miss them.
It is not an easy road to travel when leaving something that has consumed your whole life, but it's a great joy to understand that you don't have to burn in hell because of it. I love your videos. Thank you.
Amen to that.
So shunning is permanent? That is even contrary to Paul who started it in 1 Cor 5:1-5. He addresses this approximately 1 year later in 2 Cor 2:5-10. I would contend that any permanent shunning is excessive punishment, which is sin in and of itself. In other words, the Corinthian who sleeps with his stepmother is only shunned for 1 year. That's very very wrong and much less than these other things. And on the the technology issue - it's only about 100 years old. I am not aware that the Anabaptist Amish, or Mennonites had any technology problems after the Protestant Reformation. They added that later. (I am all about the anti-war protest portion related to shaving mustaches. Much respect for that.)
@@rsbrehm Well said, shunning (esp. too long) is a sin itself.
@@rsbrehmonly shunned if you were baptized & promised your life to the church essentially. If you were never baptized and later lived an English life, you weren't shunned by the church. However, your family could disown you if they were like that.
@@floralmist6824 Church worship vs Jesus worship is a concern. Do the Amish Baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy spirit?
Very interesting. A positive explanation rather then tearing down someone's beliefs.
My grandson is Mennonite , my daughter married into the family,,,,,,,He has the most wonderful life,,,,,him and all his best friends are busy busy ,busy,,,,,but when I go up there to stay he spends so much time with me , between chores or I follow him around while he feeds the chickens ect. The adventures these boys have compare greatly to Mark Twain characters,,,,the fun is contagious lively and soooooooo healthy.,,,,,I’ve never enjoyed a meal as much as I do with my grandson , I could watch him ENJOY that food for ever,,,,he will take a bite of something covered in whipped cream by scooping all the cream in one mouthful and he really looks like he’s in a bit of heaven right there.the boys talk so much to me while I’m there,more than non Mennonite children talk to the elders .i could write for hours about the magical wonder these boys still have with life more than any of us boomers ever had,and we had a lot. I thank God for my daughters Mother an Father in laws ,they are fantastic people , I send Eva mother day cards because I am so grateful for her love and caring for my daughter .they live far away from me but I’m always welcome,,,,,my son in law offered to build me a house a few years ago . I was speechless SPEECHLESS,I’m still down here in my home town but as people die and leave it is so heartwarming to know I am welcome to a place where I am loved and cared for,,,I guess that’s it ,,,,,,,don’t even get me started about the great fun stories about my daughter and her great husband….🌬 💨💨 🤍🕊🕊🕊🇨🇦, I can’t resist,,,,,,when my son in law does something that his mom feels very strongly about and makes her worry she will leave the bible open beside their bed to something she wants him to read.,,,,,🤍🕊🤍. I just love her🤍
I was invited to an Amish wedding in 2000. There were about 300 people, and maybe 4 or 5 English people. My Amish friend had a plain black dress for a wedding dress, and I was surprised that the wedding was a full church service...3 hours on those backless hard wooden benches in a huge barn on a hot August day. I didn't understand much (knew a little German, and some words were familiar). The preacher married 5 couples at the end of the service, and gave them a talking to about married life before they were officially married. I was invited to eat... apparently a real honor because hardly anyone ate with them (maybe 30 or 40 out of 300). Everyone hung out (even napped) in all the bedrooms. I was Invited to stay for dinner too...another honor which I didn't understand fully...I left early because I had to drive 3 hours away. I was tired of feeling self conscious and out of place with my English clothes, and it was so hot indoors with no air conditioning!
Thank you for opening up about your experiences despite the complex feelings that it can bring. Much respect.
If covid-19 did one thing right it was to bring to light the need to garden with heirloom seeds, unite with your neighbors, conserve resources and plan for lean times. I've noticed a new "Back to the earth" movement with an increasing growth pattern over the last year of 2019-20.
Amen! I have hope for the future because of this! No more despair, it’s time to rise up, be more self reliant and build!
@@theamishpotato ruclips.net/video/vXGLOD95Yus/видео.html you might want to watch this.
@@theamishpotato You mention a tractor sometimes being used to pull the bench wagon. I thought Amish do not use tractors or other modern vehicles,
@@gmd1417 in our community they were allowed to use tractors to run machinery that needed a pro. Mixers, elevators, shredders, etc. but they weren’t allowed to use them in the fields to do field work. Yes in some communities they can’t have tractors period.
@@theamishpotato was that a pto ?
I'm a driver for a small Amish community and went to a couple of the services and they were a lot like was described on this video. Although they are some what traditional they seem to have concern for one another and their neighbors. Although I'm not Amish I can learn a lot of good things from them. They make good neighbors 🙂
I didn’t know Church was every other Sunday. That makes life so much easier with all the hard work they do. I admire a lot of the life style and have adopted some of the customs . The more I learn the more I enjoy living Almost Amish, but I do also enjoy my freedoms of cutting my hair, wearing pants, going to college, working on my Masters degree etc.
They go to other churches if they want during the other 2 Sundays.
I’m in Indiana and I’m Catholic. I just thinking learning about other communities is fascinating. My husband and I try to live a little more simply. We have animals and a couple gardens.
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I don't know what part of Indiana you are from but I attend an old German Baptist brethren church, in ways they are very similar to Amish, depending on which conference you attend, the old conference brothers wear black and white with black hats, the women wear plain dresses with head coverings similar to the Amish, new conference doesn't practice that and has more freedom in colors for men and women,old conference doesn't have internet, new conference does, both have phones I personally am old conference but am not yet baptized
I have been a driver for the Dover Delaware Amish community about 5 years. I have learned a lot about the community by respectfully asking questions and they say they don't mind answering the questions. However I was not comfortable asking questions about church services or weddings. Thank you for doing this video. Can you do a video about weddings and funerals. I enjoy learning about all cultures,
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I’m not far from you, in Newark. I worship with the Mennonite congregation right over the line in Elkton. They have a sister church in Dover as well (Kenton Mennonite).
My background is Mennonite.
The Lob Lied, translated into English means a Praise The Lord Song.
Thank you for this interesting introduction into the Amish faith traditions. The song reminds me somewhat of Gregorian chant in format. I am a reformed Catholic...or Lutheran. I enjoy all the many languages, music and fellowship traditions. Worship is really of the heart, mind and soul. God is bigger than our differences. Blessings. Thanks to Rose Yoder for the beautiful translation.
Dutch Reformed in South Africa used to sign like that. The slower the singing the more pious they believed they were. Not sure if they're still doing that.
My mother grew up in the Amish community in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. She fell in love with a local boy from the English world.
She was shunned by her people.
My parents lived their lives and had their children in Philadelphia.
She reconciled with her family when I was 6.
She never spoke of her past until then.
After her reconciliation, we would visit my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins.
From that point, myself, sister and brother would spend every summer on my grandparents farm. I loved it.
I loved my newfound family and community.
That's amazing! I'm so glad your family opened up to you. That's the work of God. 💗🐾
That's wonderful! My family let's me come visit too, but they are focused on trying to persuade me to return to their church. I have always lived too far away to make the trip often, but they would have liked to have my children stay with them while they were little. My children were not interested either I don't think, but we lived on a farm ourselves, close to my late husband's family that also had left the Amish.
I appreciate you taking the time and doing all the explaining.. No one can explain anything better than the actual people. Ive always been fascinated with amish people.
I first watched you when I came up on your first video, where you were torn between being Amish or serving Christ. I didn’t get to finish watching it but I would love to. You talked about wanting to visit a church and lol you said I didn’t want to go into a church that spoke in tongues and rolling in the flours, I couldn’t help but laugh. I’m a Pentecostal and I do speck in tongues but a lot of people get a misconception with this practice. There’s so much more that God offers. 1 Corinthians chapter 12 explains everything!!! When I got felled with the Holy Ghost it changed my life!!!! Feeling that indwelling of Gods Spirit and feeling His presents is so powerful!!! All I ask instead of judging research the Gifts of the Spirit if you believe in one then you must believe all of Gods Word it will change your life. My God bless you and your family but most of all give you the understanding, knowledge of His Word.
I just recently discovered your channel and it has been a great blessing! I did not grow up Amish; however, most of my relatives including my parents were part of a closed community that called themselves "the Brethren". The beliefs and lifestyle etc. were closely related to the Mennonites but with certain close similarities to the Amish. When my older siblings were younger, our family was still part of the community (they had joined up with the community when they opened up another plant/community in Canada; my mom had married a Canadian). I was two when that Canadian Brethren community broke up and returned back to the main community in New Hampshire. We stayed in Canada for a few more years and then my mother got permission from the pastor to move our whole family back to the United States to the original community in New Hampshire. My mom got everyone's United States passports and then at the last moment the pastor denied us joining back with the community because my mother wanted to raise her own children and in the community children were raised in a boarding school type arrangement separate from their parents. I often wonder how our lives might have been different if we had stayed in the community. So we stayed in Canada and my parents tried their best to raise us under the community's standards. I am now 34 and got saved at 18 at a Christian college Praise God, but I find myself returning in certain ways to the way I was raised. I know I wasn't Amish but I always feel quite a connection to both the Amish and the Mennonite b/c of how we were raised and the similarities in beliefs and lifestyles. I think one thing that I currently struggle with is that I find myself deeply dissatisfied with the current American culture and want something different for our children. I also find it hard to throw off completely what we were taught as a child. (for example, excommunication was practiced; also we were taught that one can lose their salvation.) Do you struggle with what you were taught as a child (I mean false doctrines) --being able to completely let go of these? I am so sorry to make this so long. Our background and the way were raised is so foreign to most Americans...sometimes I just wish for someone who understands...
God bless you; you are not alone; there are quite a few of us that feel a little bit alone with such a different backgound from most poeple. It is well worth it as I left for the sake of the Gospel of Jesus!
I know this is much later but I know how you feel. I grew up in Canada 🇨🇦 northern Alberta. Very diverse Mennonite community. From similar to this to very liberal
Thanks for all you're telling us. When I was a child, a lot of what you talking about was in my father's family (Black Forrest) taking place in a similar form. Even only within the family, but they were big enough and religious. The children gathered according to their age in groups. The older ones mostly men and women separately (only in the beginning). The clothing of women was also strictly separated, e.g. single, married, or already a widow. I miss this time, where the whole family visited the graveyard of the last generation and everything was more relaxed.
Great talk, buddy thank you for it👍🏼. I am following your stories other side of the globe in Perth Western Australia. I appreciate learning about your community and it’s practice. You communicate clear and well . Keep up the good work !
Some Christians wouldn't take a community like this for granted. I'm sure the Lord appreciates.
Very respectful of your past and tradition. Very interesting and appreciated!
This song warms ur heart 💖 I loved to hear this singing when I was Amish
I work for an Amish owned business. Old order, more liberal Amish from Ohio
One of the three owners and I had a long discussion about the faith and culture. I was so happy that he was so willing to openly discuss it. We had a great conversation. Near the end he invited me to a church service.
I was flattered that he would invite me.
That’s awesome. Yeah that’s great that he was open to discussing it.
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I actually used your videos and the 6 part series "Breaking the slience" as a reference point to begin the discussion.
I assured him the videos I watched were very respectful and we went from there. We conversed for 45 minutes.
Their church services sound exactly like yours. I explained what I had learned and he then told me about their own.
They are just great people.
One of the really encouraging things to learn was that this group is practically done with the practice of shunning.
@@snapmalloy5556 I’ve gotten the sense that some areas are not agreeing with shunning which is the a huge step in the right direction. Thank you for sharing my vids with him. It’s the reason I started doing this. Keep up the good work.
All 6 episodes of My Amish Story was beautifully filmed. I loved every episode. I binge watched them.
Loving your channel. I’ve always enjoyed reading Amish books by beverley Lewis . But this is so cool listening to you about how things where really done. Keep them coming
I'm here in Fremont Indiana. I will say that the Amish in Lagrange, Shipshewana, Middlebury have always been more pleasant to talk to than those in Grabill/Woodburn area. Crazy how 60 miles makes that big a difference. New Subscriber my friend.
Wow. This sounds just like my Catholic experience... the playing with toys and snacks during church and looking your best because everyone saw you. People are people.
Thanks for the video! I'm not Amish myself, my family is Pa Dutch but we were Lutherans turned methodists at some point in the past rather than plain folk. I've actually been learning Pa Dutch for about the past 2 years or so during the pandemic, it died out in my family with my grandmother who was the last speaker.
So they are truly a loving community
So every home is the church how absolutely LOVELY
Thank you so much for the share. I love the picture you paint of your experiences as an Amish.
This kept coming up as a recommendation and I finally clicked on it. Very interesting. Thank you. -Ed
The Holy Kiss, at least in our denomination, is a greeting in which male members give a quick kiss only to other male members. It is usually just a quick "peck" on the lips or cheek. Usually it is never between members of the opposite gender. We then say to each other "greetings brother or sister" depending on your gender.
In my Amish background that is how the kiss was practiced as well, except usually no words till the whole round was made greeting all of the members; same gender.
WORDS TO LOB LIED TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH
O God Father we praise Thee
And Thy goodness exalt
That Thou O Lord so graciously
Hast revealed Thyself anew to us
And has led us together Lord
To admonish us through Thy word
Give us grace to do this
Open Thy mouth of Thy servants Lord
Give them wisdom as well
That they may rightly speak Thy word
What is useful to a godly life
And beneficial to Thy glory
Give us hunger for such food
This is our desire.
Give our hearts understanding also
Enlightenment here on earth
That Thy word in us may be familiar
That we may become godly
And live in righteousness
Heeding Thy word at all times
Thus one remains undeserved.
Thine alone, O Lord, is the kingdom
And also the power, together
We praise Thee in the assembly
And give thanks to Thy name
And beseech Thee from the depths of our hearts
Thou wouldst be with us during this hour
Through Jesus Christ, amen.
All songs sung in Amish churches are prayers written by anabaptists that were in prison for their Christian beliefs.
Thank you! I’ve always wondered.
@@theamishpotato You're welcome
Words sound good,but the singing..not so much.
I grew up in Plymouth Brethren ,the singing is similar but maybe a tadbit more cheerful sounding.
You did a great and thorough job translating so I saved it!.
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I started singing along before I even knew it lol sounds so familiar even though I haven't heard it for years
Caught myself singing along there in the first part of your video 😀 we always had bean soup and apple pie kind of miss it sometimes my wife still likes making that sometimes on Sundays he also mentioned about Some Amish not taking showers I grew up old order Amish but when I was 14 we moved to a different community we where allowed to have showers it was showers every day after that but my dad head a Sawmill business and we had some neighboring community Amish working for us which were Gray top buggies They had showers in the houses to but most of them still would not shower until Saturday night you wanna talk about disgusting people to work with LOL keep up the good work
Apple pie!? Not fair at all!😋
I'm surprised to hear that you were "allowed" to take showers. If not, then only on Saturdays.
God likes cleanliness and not dirty or messy. So this surprises me.. 🤔
@@jennSalvate "cleanliness is godliness" is a line that was thrown around at times, but its not in the Bible.
Didn’t grow up Amish, but similar to Amish and the men definitely touched lips when greeting with the Holy Kiss
Childhood friends' father was a former Amish who married a French Creole woman he met on rumspringa. They are in their 80s and still very interesting people. He was responsible for getting the law changed so they could have chickens in the city, and a garden in the front yard. By the time he had signatures from everyone in I think a 6 block area, he had enough people that also wanted chickens to go with him to the council and just change it. Now I think you just have to ask the neighbours beside you?
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The holy kiss signifies peace. It is not a sexual kiss at all and it is a sign of fellowship because your heart should be right and welcoming toward your brother.
In the Eastern Orthodox Church there is a literal kiss of peace during Pascha (Easter) - a kiss on the cheek -with everyone --men and women (part of the service/liturgy). Some more European oriented communities would use the kiss of peace as a general greeting -no, nothing sexual about any of it.
In the Brethren church I attended for several years, the older members still greeted folks with the Holy Kiss (on the cheek). It was pretty much dropped by my generation (Now WE’RE the older generation!). It was sad to see it lost.
@@brooklyndave5596 the triple kiss of holiness🙏💯💪
Interesting that Amish practice the Holy Kiss. I grew up in the Old German Baptist Brethern around Dayton OH, which practices the Holy Kiss. Very interesting.
I’m from a Tribe here in the North West , and grew up with much the same rules, and depended on our “community “ for help. the only big difference is Church, we did not have church, but a type of church, just no bible or written rules. Every thing we do is passed down through generations. This is very interesting, I keep returning for more.
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LOL! I knew you boys would find some way to cut up in spite of all that formality🤣👍🏼 This is fascinating. It seems as if the elders are revered in that culture. I feel for any arthritics sitting all those hours on uncomfortable benches though. The food sounds so delicious.
You gave such an accurate, detailed and descriptive analysis of what a church service is like. It was just like I remembered it. I loved your reenactment of the bishop calling every one to become silent and pray before eating. 😂👌 I do think they lock lips when they practice the holy kiss, and they go around the entire circle doing it with everyone. 🤢
You did an excellent job detailing the reality of the rigidity that is experienced as a child and really everyone experiences but as a child there is even more pressure to conform in a church service lest you incur punishment for not walking the line. All those 👀 are on you. Have you ever noticed that many seem to have a sensitivity to staring or being stared at.?
I know I used to struggle with it, it would make me feel extremely self conscious. I remember a minister from another country prayed for me years ago and He told me that He saw me surrounded by a bunch of eyes and He wanted to ask the Lord to deliver me from all the eyes. 👍
I remember feeling extremely liberated after that, when I went back to the community and encountered the eyes, they didn’t have any more power over me. 🙂 It was the fear and control associated with the 👀 that I needed to be liberated from. 👍
I hated church. Hated it. Because of the eyes. I never considered the fact that you could be set free from it. Glad I never had to participate in the kiss🤮. Did the women do it to?
@@theamishpotato me too. Hated the 👀. I always looked forward to off Sunday, or when my parents went to communion church for hours and I could stay home with my siblings by ourselves.
Yes they did. I’m glad I didn’t either. I remember after joining church having to wash another young woman’s feet and we had to kiss but we chose the cheeks. 😃 Neither of us was married yet.
@@theamishpotato Not all the Communities practice it but those who do, yes the women too. That was a challenge for me to do. But I sort of enjoyed Amish church, especially the singing and some of the preachers too. The one bishop I enjoyed most tho' ended up leaving and joining the Baptists!
The kiss sounds like the “Sharing of the Peace.” In Christs time and place the common greeting given was “Peace be with you” and a kiss or sign of peace was shared. The kiss might have been on the cheeks in the current common French manner or it could have been on the lips. When Judas betrayed Jesus he told those who were to capture Jesus that Jesus would be the one he kissed.
It is a very ancient practice. Bishop Theodore wrote in 428:
“Each of us gives the Kiss of Peace to the person next to us, and so in effect gives it to the whole assembly, because this act is an acknowledgement that we have all become a single body of Christ our Lord, and so must preserve with one another that harmony that exists among the limbs of a body, loving one another equally, supporting and helping one another, regarding the individual needs as concerns of the community, sympathizing with one another’s sorrows and sharing in one another’s joys.”
In Catholic and Lutheran services the “peace” is shared right before the communion portion of service or mass. In (Matthew 5:23-24), Jesus said, “if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there, you remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering.” Passing the Peace began as a way for people in the Christian community to be reconciled to one another before making their offering at the altar. It is for this reason that the Peace always comes before Communion. In North American churches the peace is general shared by handshakes except among family members where a hug or perhaps even a quick kiss is shared.
It's actually beautiful to hear
So glad I found this channel. Very interesting! We live close to an Amish community in North Carolina, although I'm not sure which sect they are. Their community operates a greenhouse, creamery, general store as well as quite a few other businesses. They're community oriented, not just within their group, but within the outside community as well. I've always been made to feel welcome when around them. And I tend to agree with church services being solemn and serious. So many faiths now are "entertaining" their members rather than teaching & discipling.
NC is I believe mostly New Order Amish.
Thanks! I did a little research since my original post. You are correct.
Great video. I live in Bristol and work in Shipshewana and have always been curious about the Amish lifestyle. Keep up the great videos.
Thank you so much, reminds me of the American Indian Shaker Church, song wise, long, slow, mournful.
The song sounds like a chant.Very interesting how your church service was held.
I recently read "Albion's Seed" by David Hackett Fisher and there's mention of Amish/Pennsylvania Dutch...so interesting. Great video, thanks for the insight.
Ive been binging a whole bunch of amish and mennonite content lately. I remember going to Pennsylvania amish country as a kid and being in awe that people really drive horse drawn buggies. Imma give you the sub before watching any of your videos because anyone who is willing to change life from everything they know (usually for a moral or biblical reason) is someone i support. Always do what makes you happy, no matter what the bishops say.
We have Amish friends in Holmes County Ohio area. Our older friends were in an older order and the Bible was in high German. They had no electric in their house except one solar light. They were not allowed on airplanes but could be helicoptered in a medical emergency. One of their nieces married a more modern Amish man. He has an English Bible and they can go on vacation on airplanes. He runs a sawmill and has a generator for more electric in his house.
Eli Yoder has a youtube channel and he grew up in the Holmes County Ohio Amish. They were very restricted and limited in what they could do.
You did a really good job explaining it all in detail!!
Editing has improved so much since we started watching you!
Haha it’s still got a ways to go. I noticed the great job you guys do. Did you take classes?
@@theamishpotato no. Titus has done a ton of watching RUclips videos and research. Amazing what you can learn off of YT. But he would like to take some classes eventually. Currently Titus is pursuing a career in producing film.
@@TitusandFannie that’s awesome! I’ve been looking forward to watching your journey.
I had the honor of attending Church with an Amish family for a Sunday. It was very much like you said except there were
three ministers and the people sat in three groups. Men, young & women in groups more or less by age. Each Preacher
or Minister would have a sermon prepared for each of the three groups. I thought this was a wonderful idea as far as I
was concerned. Prayer was like you said. We would get on the floor facing the back of the pew. After Church, we consumed
a wonderful meal prepared by the women. Men were seated and served by the women. Children were in a separate room and served by the mothers.
My background was same as you said except the three preachers didn't have sermons especially for separate groups. In my experience the three groups all sat in earshot of the preachers who always took turns speaking to everybody. I wonder if they spoke English for you? Some of the newer settlements do, when someone is there that doesn't understand German.
I’ve driven by church services on a Sunday morning near Shipshewana, Indiana and saw horses lined-up at the rail. I now have a better sense of what occurs inside during the worship service.
You did a great job sharing your Amish services. Thank you very much.
This is interesting. I grew up in Central Indiana and in the summer occasionally we would go for a ride on Sunday to see "the Amish". I have always been fascinated by the culture. I love the channel "mountain haven". They have shared about their Amish background too. Recently they shared how to make that peanut butter 😊 It surprised me they would load their kids up with all that sugar.
Montana Haven?
They eat high caloric food bc. they physically work hard.
It's beyond comical when people tell you how your group lives regardless of the group. I was raised southern Baptist. I wasn't allowed to wear pants. I wasn't allowed to listen to secular music. I was limited as to what I could watch on the 3 channels we had. My Father was a Pastor. To this day I will have people argue with me about our beliefs. lol
LOL was just talking similarly with someone else regarding names.... because of our given names, others think we are of an ethnic group that we are not.... and they insist that we are ...and it is nothing wrong with that other group, we are just not a part of it!!
Love the story of the water on the table cloth LOLOL
My mother drives Amish in some of the northeast Ohio communities. I have gone along with her on many of those. I have never experienced an Amish church service and I don’t think she has either. I have been to a weddings though and it was quite an experience to have for sure
Loved the rain-gutter tablecloth story. Boys will be boys!
The songs are hauntingly beautiful.
You are in my prayers. We are in Helena Montana. Blessings
I live in great falls Montana! Hello neighbor! Lots of prayers for this beautiful man!
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experiences. You have awakened a real interest in me. I am now hoping I can find a video from someone who can actually explain the "why", from the point of view of a person who has complete and thorough understanding of (and perhaps belief in) the faith and its practices.
The "holy kiss" is meant to symbolize (the wish for) peace. ♡
Im English but attended Amish Church for 4 yrs in SE Indiana, and those services were pretty much as yours, except no bathroom break..Ziegness (sp) means Testimony. I too love the peanut butter if my friends were having church at thete home, I always ended up getting some to take home. I had the full outfit once attending church in Ohio, I was adked to start a song, I knew what he wanted so I just shook my head and he went on, not till after church did they find out I didn't understand any PA Dutch,
XD what an interesting story. I find it super funny how they call all of us "worldly americans" english. I was born in california. How am i english? XDD
@Elizabeth Zacharias i do. But i am american.
@Elizabeth Zacharias also, they speak english too from school age on. So...
@Elizabeth Zacharias i fail to see how any of this makes me english
@Elizabeth Zacharias given the lack of a meaningful response, id venture to guess maybe you dont understand the reasoning either. If thats the case, its ok to say "it makes no sense, but thats how they refer to people."
"Zeugnis" as you said in 18:55 means testimony exactly. Pennsylvania dutch (basically "deitsch") is a German dialect from the Vorderpfalz, this is around Neustadt/Weinstrasse, Speyer, Ludwigshafen, Frankenthal, Bad Dürkheim. So it is not a different language, just a dialect with a different pronunciation. If Amish speak slowly I can understand words and some sentences.
Vorderpfalz = in southwest.
Looking forward to your next video!
I was not raised Amish but I do live near Amish country in Lancaster Pa, I always found their way of life interesting even if I don’t agree with it. I grew up going to a fire and brimstone style baptist church.
Thanks for posting this. I also grew up Amish, and still live in this community in Northern Indiana. There are a few minor things I would change for the district I grew up in, but as you mentioned, Amish churches have differences from one district to another.
I don't know your name (yet), but there is probably a 10% chance that we are related somehow. I will have to watch more of your videos to see if I can figure out where you fit. Another series of videos you might like is called Montana Haven by Joas Miller. His elderly parents are featured in this series, and they are from this area. I was in the same church districts as they were and knew them well.
The Amish Potato is CJ Miller.
I love the song" GOD IST DIE LIEBE" even my daughter when she was a child. Gesegnet Deuch.
I loved that song too. It is not one of the church songs we used but for young poeples gatherings and school.
Most Mennonites know this song!!
The silent prayer.....how it is explained to me is to not be worldly. To not boast about what you pray about. My last question is what do they think Acension Day is. Since Easter is around the corner. The bishop doesn't even know.
You have a new subscriber in me. Thank you for doing this in a respectful way. They are good people....just misled.
I think I've heard what it is but now I can't remember:(
@@theamishpotato It is when Jesus left the tomb and went to Heaven is how it's explained to me.
@@theamishpotato , I understand Ascension Day to be 40 days after Resurrection Day. Jesus bodily and visibly ascended into Heaven.
Luke 24:51. Mark 16:19
The order of seating arrangement sounds close to the Jewish faith.
The point of going is giving thanks and praise to God and to ask for his forgiveness for our sins and the faith not to repeat them.and be fair and kind to all..The gift of generosity and sharing much encouraged with time and deeps.
Though not Amish, I do respect how the Amish come together for each other, their community love. That it’s not treated like a biweekly society club, as many religions treat weekly. Amish seem to be there for each other, as brothers and sisters in Christ should be in all religions. Though this is why I don’t choose to the word religion, I choose the word Christianity.
My mom and dad were from Pennsylvania. They spoke Pennsylvania Dutch and grew up Mennonite and Lutheran.
If they would end a given prayer with the traditional "Amen,'" it would be nicer & more clear than throat clearing.
The song sounds sad like a dirge style of music. Is this typical of Amish worship? I caught your explanation later as these songs were written during times of persecution. That explains the style.
Thanks for sharing!
That is beautiful. Hits your ❤
My guess is the "holy kiss" is because many Amish (and others too) do literally word for word what is written in the Bible even if they do not understand it.
Commandments for Christians to exchange a kiss occur at the end of Thessalonians, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, and Romans and they are virtually identical in their wording: “Greet one another” (or 1 Thessalonians, “all the brethren”) “with a holy kiss.”
Awesome just awesome! Thank you
thank you for sharing!
Sounds very interesting, went through it, in some ways I miss it but not the hard benches
Yeah 3 hours of can’t stay awake and can’t sleep because it’s uncomfortable 😂
You are in my area now. Currently I am on the east side of Lagrange County where I care for my elderly Mom, but I have a home in Sturgis and grandchildren who attend Centreville schools. I have canned with an Amish friend and done occasional driving for them. Her husband knows his Bible well and in that family they read a Bible story nearly every morning. I think they must be a more liberal family or group. When you do your videos of the area, I know most of the places where you are. That has been fun for me.
thank you for your posting ...I am 76 years old and my grandfather was Amish and left when he married my non Amish grandmother ...unfortunately Amos my grandfather had passed before I was born ...we lived is an agricultural area with a large German population
and many citizens could get along with a mixture of Pennsylvania Dutch and German ...
the traditional Amish community was still very strong ...but in this community there was a Meeting House (church) where services were conducted every Sunday
I grew up Mennonite and the holy kiss was just touching lips. As a young man the first time was a "growing up". Thing not only for married men but for men who have joined the church.
Live your stories .. im fascinated with the armish..
Ment to say love your stories.. oops
The "armish"?
You must be from Warshington.
@@tomatobagel no im from across the big pond in England..
United Kingdom.. 🇬🇧✌
I believe she meant Amish. No problem.
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I'm Mennonite and that's the kind singing they do in Mexico in the old colony Church.
My home town in Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 too!
Thank you for your interesting video. You mentioned a dialect word, "Tetnis," which you didn't know the meaning. (Is that the Pennsylvania Dutch spelling?).From what you described, it sounds like it came from the German word "Zeugnis," which means "witness" or "testimony." I'm glad RUclips suggested your video to me. I look forward to hearing your Zeugnis in your other video about leaving the Amish.
That is the word! Pennsylvania Dutch isn’t a written language so it’s hard to spell the words😋
@@theamishpotato By the way, the German pronunciation for "Zeugnis" is "tsoygnis."
Thank you for recommending Joseph Grabers video "breaking the silence".
I have seen those previously and they're very good.
I have some good friends who grew up Lutheran. After they were born again as adults, they went and lived in a couple of Old Order Mennonite communities for 7 years.
They were attracted by the modesty, lack of divorce and simple lifestyle. Eventually though, they were disillusioned by the lack of gospel understanding in the majority of the people. So they left the old order but they did not leave Jesus!
It's interesting that religious groups that started out strong in the Christian faith have strayed so far away but it's like the old Roman catholic church by reading and preaching in a language that the people don't understand and even most of the preacher don't understand it all becomes routine and ritchualist not a relationship with Jesus the Christ our savior it too bad and so sad that that has happened and it's so hard to reach them with the gospel of God and His Son
@@douglaswindsor120 Very true. However since I left I tried several other churches in which I have seen a lot of the same of settling back into ritual instead of a true Gospel relationship with Christ.
Being a student of scripture there is an important reason that those like the Amish are needed in our society. They like the Quakers and Mennonites showing the rest of the Christian communities - There is another way to live a Christian Life. This is something like what a Nasserite was to Hebrews, no cutting hair, eating locust and honey, no wine or grapes among other actions or abstinence. There is the need for the greater Christian community to take in the message of the heart in the Amish. I will never forget the response of the community that suffered that massacre of children by the gunman, to forgive. In addition, the community barn raising in the movie Witness or the Grandfather's talk to his grandson about knowing what is in another's heart.
A. Solzhenitsyn - The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.
From the movie Kingdom of Heaven a line spoken by the 'Knight' It is a choice to do good or evil. We rise every morning and make that choice. I usually choose to do good. (paraphrased)
The word of God falls on all kinds of ground. It is the Master's desire that all be gathered to Him but not all will. Those that do must break open their life and help yield His harvest. Not long ago in the desert of Death Valley had an abundance of rain one winter. In the spring there was an explosion of flowers with many thought extent or not see for 5 decades. It is not how much we do or when, it flows in His time, a cup of water or designing a cathedral, rescuing one life or many, holding a man's hand when he says 'Strike the tent. We cross the river.' with his last breath. We each follow the Way He has given us. Even if we change from what we had known as a child of young adult. One answers the call of the Master no matter were it leads.
Interesting! Thank you CJ!
There are four places in the New Testament that refer to the “holy kiss”-Romans 16:16; 1 Corinthians 16:20; 2 Corinthians 13:12; and 1 Thessalonians 5:26. In each instance, the Greek words denote a kiss which is sacred-physically pure and morally blameless. It was a common custom in most nations for people to kiss each other at meeting or parting to display their love, sincere affection, and friendship for each other. The kiss is called "holy" to distinguish it from a sexual one and from a hypocritical and deceitful one, such as Joab gave to Amasa (2 Samuel 20:9) or such as Judas gave to Jesus when he cried, “Hail Rabbi,” and betrayed Him into the hands of His enemies (Matthew 26:49).
In New Testament times, the holy kiss was a sign of greeting, much like the modern handshake. For Christians, it further expressed brotherly love and unity. The holy kiss was especially precious to the new believers during the early church years, because they were often outcasts from their own families because of their new faith.
I like your humor on non Amish speaking on Amish being all the same I am non Amish and would never Some English are very simple minded I love your channel I have always been interested in different cultures keep up educating Just never forget you are not 2nd class never in the eyes of God
Awesome video! What was the name of the channel you are recommending?
I do a lot of business with amish people really nice to work with
I have a bunch of questions for you because I did not grow up Amish.
First of all, when a family hosts a church service, does the host family provide hay for all of the other family's horses that are there?
I was also curious as to who decides what preacher is chosen for a funeral. How is an Amish funeral conducted? When a burial takes place, is the deceased just buried in a wooden casket and no burial vault? Is there a certain community cemetery for burials or are the deceased family members buried on a family's property?
One other question: after a funeral service, does each community member help to fill the grave with a shovel of dirt to bid a final farewell, as it were?
Yep the hosting family provides the hay.
I will an Amish funeral on my list of videos. Thank you for the questions!
@@theamishpotato thank you for your reply. I just wanted to say that I had watched the whole series of Breaking the Silence quite a while ago, but revisited some of the stories again toight. I can only imagine how hard the struggles are when someone decides to leave, byt it always gives me such a lift when I see over and over how freeing it is when all of you experience the true love and grace of God. I hope that many will continue to be inspired and saved by your testimonies.
The Loblied is a Hymn of Praise. I'm not Amish. My grandparents and greatgrandparents spoke Pennsylvania Dutch when I was a kid and read from the German Bible. All I knew was that they were German. The lyrics to the Loblied are this: O Lord Father, we bless thy name,
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we are not Amish but our church in years gone by would greet with an Holy kiss. Men to men, lady to lady. This was for those that were Christians only! Others would just shake hands.
It was just a greeting 1Cor.16:201. I grew up in Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania so I found your video's
Interesting to watch!
Greet the brethren with a holy kiss. New Testament
On the neck not on the lips