I feel the lack of explicit separation between the ad and video in this one is highly misleading and probably not okay by german advertising standards.
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Me switching to Linux: 👁️_👁️ Update: no, I'm not switching, but Linux became a nice hobby for me. Linux isn't ready for my use case and there are ways to fix what i don't like about Windows
Samsung recently opened up a lot of their formerly exclusive apps for everyone on the Microsoft Store. That makes the experience with Windows even more seamless
@@VortexEXTREME Phone (Dialer), Galaxy Buds (for multi-point), Gallery, Quick Share (Samsung's version has additional features Google hasn't implemented yet)
I switched to a MacBook Air M1 after using Windows all my life. I found the MacBook to be amazing in performance and efficiency and kept it for over 3 years but I still always felt like the OS was missing things. Gone back to Windows and with all these new efficient Windows laptops, it's a good time to be buying!
What did you get? I have the same Macbook Air M1 and while I am really happy with it, I'm just not sold on the OS at all. My main desktop rig is Windows so I think my next laptop will be a Windows one as well.
@@Mikri90 I've sold the Macbook Air due to it's age and thought would get a some money back for it whilst I can. Got a good price for it, as it was top spec one with 16GB. I've not actually got it's replacement yet, using my old Dell XPS with is hot and lasts about 3 hours 🤣 I'm shopping about but think I'm going to go with a Lunar Lake Laptop. Was going to go with a Snapdragon but these Lunar Lake look really impressive and have no compatibility issues. Might hold off for the new Surface Laptop.
tbh opposites for me if there was a none apple laptop that has MacOS i would switch in a instant windows just doesn't do the job for me as a developer it dumbs you down so much and full of bugs and problems
2:15 Storage on the Airs is *not* limited to 512GB, those are just the various base specs - you can upgrade it when you click in to buy. But Apple *does* charge an egregiously ridiculous amount of money to upgrade to 1TB or 2TB of storage, and similarly for RAM upgrades.
Same problem i have with MAC. I am windows user my whole life and started using MAC after m1, still i can't get used myself on MAC OS after 4 years. I still prefer windows for everything.
Just switched to MacOS, and my main issue is windows management even with the new windows snapping update. Literally an important part of PC use too, so it makes no sense to me.
Same. Mac OS just sucks. I tried running windows in parallels and it's just not the same. I'd seriously rather use Windows 98 than Mac OS. I use vintage computers all the time so that's not an exaggeration. Windows 98 is so much better than Mac OS. I was really hoping that Windows on arm would run natively on the M series macs but unfortunately that's not the case. Then of course you've got the hardware which is not upgradable or repairable. A modern mac is about as repairable as a disposable paper bag. I didn't have a choice but to use a Mac because I need the longer battery life but now with these newer PCs the battery life is comparable to a Mac so I can switch back. Thank fricking God.
@@zsampsaside from the premium feel and the OLED screens, Macs don’t really offer anything of real value 95% of the people that swear by macs are people who have the same computing requirements as chrome book users, meaning that if you’re a power user of any kinda be ready to pay for an overpriced MacBook Pro/mac studio I’m not a windows fanboy since it has its flaws, but it’s still the best OS for power users, gamers and enthusiast (think of 3d CAD hobbyist, self taught musicians interested in a DAW etc). There’s just an endless amount of third party software/hardware support to build and create anything you’ve ever wanted, the only limit being as to how creative you are I do appreciate Linux since it offers an alternative to windows and macOS, but I don’t know much about it aside from you have 100% control of your system
Lunar Lake is the x86 laptop chip I’ve been waiting for. The only reason I ever considered a MacBook was for the battery life, but I’m not particularly fond of macOS. Apple’s anti-repair practices with their silicon-based Macs have made me even more apprehensive. It’s absurd that a “pro” machine comes with just 8 GB of RAM, aggressively swapping to the SSD to maintain performance, which reduces the SSD’s lifespan. If my Windows laptop has a bad SSD, I can usually swap it out or upgrade to a bigger one if I need more storage. With Intel getting its act together, it should help keep AMD in check, ultimately leading to a better overall market for consumers. At the end of the day, I don’t care if it doesn’t win the efficiency war with Apple, especially if they’re just packing a bigger battery to compensate. What I need is an ultrabook with decent service options and more than 8 GB of RAM. I’m also curious to see how these 8 GB RAM Macs will perform in the long run as AI models continue to grow.
Well, the AI memory usage really mixed the things there, but don't forget Apple still supported their 2GB RAM iPhone 8/3GB RAM iPhone 8 Plus just about 2 years ago, when even the 6GB wasn't really acceptable on Android.. it's about the same, the OS+Chip design in one hand solve a lot of things. This is why Apple was able to run even the most demanding benchmarks with just 8GB RAM on Mac, when Windows wasn't even able to start the same benchmark under 16GB RAM.. they are not the same, don't threate them as the same.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Your point with Apple's old device support is definitely a good point, but most Android manufacturers (notably Samsung, which would incentivize other manufacturers to lengthen their support as well) are now adopting a longer support period, which is some good news. Your point about OS+Chip design is not very good, especially if you are referring to Apple's ARM architecture, M series chips. ARM actually necessitates more RAM relative to most x86 architecture PCs (most Windows computers) because of the lack of VRAM. Unlike x86, ARM uses the same ram for both the GPU and CPU, thus requiring more relative RAM, even if the OS was more optimized. And remember, the reason customers are dissatisfied with Apple is not an issue of whether or not Apple devices require more than 8GB of RAM. *Whether or not the average customer needs 8GB, and whether or not Apple devices use more than 8GB, is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.* The real issue here is price-to-performance. Apple could very well include a minimum of 16GB on their rather expensive Mac series laptops (as has been industry standard since ~2015). *The one and only reason they don't, is because they are greedy, and know they can get away with it.*
The best value is a used/refurbished Pro model. Ports, power, 120Hz, etc. ESPECIALLY Apple refurbished you can find on Woot. Window's compatibility advantage disappears with ARM narrowing the gap imo (on laptops obviously)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st You are partly right, but when an app needs more RAM, you need more RAM, you cannot go around it a lot. Sure, disk caching masks a part of that, but look how LLMs are now coming on device and that needs to be in memory to have it work; low memory = you cannot load it.
Crazy that the AMD Ryzen is getting almost on par with the Apple Silicon's performance while being an x86 chip. That means you could easily just run a normal Linux distro on it.
@@kjellbeats x86 has conventionally been the performance leader, only recently did Apple even begin pushing x86 CPU manufacturers to do better. It isn't crazy for a x86 CPU to be competitive in some situations, that much should be expected given how long their manufacturers have been at it. For the M3 to still be eating Intel and AMDs lunch in performance per watt and idle efficiency is what's crazy. Edit: And now it's entirely unimpressive, the HX370 is barely competing with the M4 (let alone the M4 Pro or Max). x86 is a dying architecture in the mobile space despite AMD's best attempts to breathe life back into it. Single core on x86 will NEVER catch up (this is hyperbolic, but they're 33% behind here and without Apple just stopping they're screwed), multicore is only staying in the same ballpark because AMD has already drew the clocks down as far as they possibly can into the voltage/frequency curve.
The amd laptop draws 28 watts compared to 12 watts the mac draws. Macs never been praised for being faster, they are praised because they are 90 percent of the performance at 70 percent less powet
I fully agree, the Zenbook is simply wonderful. Both my wife and myself have one - she got a Gen 13, and I waited for Meteor Lake. It sounds like Lunar Lake is even better. There are there are still some driver problems for me, though, so beware of that.
@@DanKaschel Because it's 16:10, sometimes fullscreen video content would have weird tearing; this has been fixed with driver updates. I use an external soundcard (Scarlett Focusrite) for general use and hobby music production, and sometimes the audio glitches out so I have to plug it out and in again. AFAIK they haven't released specific drivers for new architecture Intel yet. The main positives are nearly no noise, reasonable integrated GPU performance and solid battery life so far almost a year in. It's really good as a "convertible" laptop that powers my setup through a USB-C cable.
My experience with Asus has become terrible recently regarding motherboards. I had to switch to MSI for better stability when I use more than two PCIe slots and also because the WiFi chipset was not working properly with Linux. I hope it is not the same for their laptop and that they also focus of their system stability, not only the aesthetics.
@@benjixlegaulois5000 I can't say one way or another but my experience is that each motherboard (or at least manufacturer/chipset combo) is its own beast. MSI motherboards might be great one generation and then terrible the next. There's no brand that just always hits it out of the park. Motherboards have a hard job. They have to deal with an enormous variety of hardware configurations, voltage tolerances, and weird interactions. That's not to excuse manufacturers for inadequate testing, just to say that laptops are a fundamentally different challenge.
@@DanKaschel This is exactly what I experienced without be able to find the proper words, thanks! Each time there is a new chipset architecture, it's like a new lottery among manufacturers.
Everyone is talking about wanting to get away from Windows because of recall and other anti-consumer practices, and you're talking about wanting to switch back.
@@Cantimule Well, Microsoft has also worked on the software side to patronize and disempower its users for years. But if you want a system that simply works and doesn't have hardware that's nailed down, Windows is still the way to go.
it never had ads? I'm running windows 11 and there is not a single ad in the start menu. The only things I see in the start menu right now are some apps I pinned to the start menu and a few of the files I recently opened. And if I expand the start menu apps into all the apps installed on the PC, there are still no ads.
Still using a MBP M1. Does everything I need it to, the screen is great (although the blooming in dark scenes of a movie can be annoying), speakers are amazing and keyboard is nice to use. Glad Intel is seemingly back on track,though, and doing it with x86 is pretty impressive - i did not see that coming.
@@Z_fentomFentom I mean, believe what you want in defiance of all evidence. I think you're referring to telemetry? Yeah, that's a thing and you should be aware of it. Unfortunately, data is collected on us everywhere we go now. I don't like it the only viable alternative is linux and I'm not willing to put up with the downsides. (I see this as a person who runs a Linux server and is comfortable in Linux -- I don't want to use it as a desktop experience.)
MacOS is kind of in a weird place now, with poor app compatibility and desktop/window management compared to windows or Linux. Now that the efficiency of x86 laptops is a lot better, the only reason I use my MacBook pro is for logic pro. At the same time, though, Microsoft seems committed to making our user experiences with their OS and apps worse, so Linux seems to be the best way forward with Valve and Arch teaming up.
@@electricmiragemedia how is macOS app compatibility worse than Linux? I view macOS as best of both worlds. You can use most power user features of Linux while also getting commercial software like Microsoft word.
@gelber_kaktus If you are still using Adobe Premiere in 2024 with all the crap they have done to their consumers lately, and all the cheaper/free options out there that are more stable, you are either too lazy to learn something new, being forced to use it by and employer, or a sucker.
@@gelber_kaktusalmost no1 needs adobe realisticly u could either just use a VM or photopea thats free photoshop on browser thats works like adobe and u can pay for AI features
I am so happy i left both of these systems behind. Thankfully i do not need the video productivity to be locked in the Apple products as the only real solution. Not everyone is as lucky but i am happy i am. But good Arm based windows laptop is a great thing. Actually eventually opens ups the route for putting Linux on them that can have great potential.
Worth mentioning that Just Josh found out the Lunar Lake chips still have a noticeably inefficient power curve, worse than all of the competition - still, the low power target does well enough that casual users won't ever tell. Plus, it's a fascinating architecture! If I get the chance I'll be going with a Strix Point laptop simply because I need that multicore performance, but everything is looking great at this point
Watch Geekerwan's review, they explained how the power efficiency curve doesn't necessarily translate the platform's actual performance. Lunar Lake is really great except for the part where the maximum CPU core configuration is only 4P + 4E, an 8P + 4E would have been nice.
Thats what you get when you prioritize P Core over E Core. Lunar lake could easily achieve better MT by trading 1 or 2 P core with a cluster of E Core or two. I guess intel prefer snappiness of the device over better MT performance.
@@SussySmurf Oh, that's a name I haven't seen in a while! But yes, there's a lot of truth to that, as the IPC of the P-cores is very competitive, which is pretty obvious when looking at single core benchmarks. The core layout is definitely dragging them down at the moment.
@@Arkan_Fadhila They want to sell them as always-on PCs, so having the biggest ratio of E-cores possible is very much useful. Counterproductive for anyone who has a need for performance, but still.
@@SussySmurfMy ideal laptop rigjt now would be with no NPU and in that spare space to have 2-4 more P cores (or combination). The NPU is eating a lot of space and I don't really see a good usage for that in the next few years. When we really need that, Intel will be on a much better node (probably sub 18a) and you gain space from that advancement.
I used to use Mac laptops, and back in 2010 I actually think they were miles ahead of Windows but that's ancient history - I much prefer a trimmed down install of Windows 11 or POP OS these days.
@@nickthaskater I mean, my 24GB/1TB M3 Air was the same price as what Apple sells the 16GB/512GB model for and I don't really need to upgrade in the long run either, the M3's controller just supports up to 24GB of memory anyway
I'm really excited with the new windows laptops. I just want to wait 1 or 2 more years so that they are more efficient, ARM will be better and they will be closer to M4 quality (Hopefully fan less!). My only concern is that Qualcomm were concerned with sales and I'm worried they might not continue to go all chips in on these new processors. Time will tell
As a Windows user looking to upgrade my laptop, it's been a very weird year till now. I wonder though, when we'll get sth that can outright rival the M maxes.
Never Intel can’t compete with Apple That’s why Apple left intel to make their own chips Apple will bleed money but will never ever compromise on performance What I really wonder is what will happen after chips will be made on 1nm technology ? 😂
If only Samsung wasn't stupid and didn't lock the Samsung Notes app for Windows to Samsung laptops only. Sure, you can get a third-party app to spoof your hardware ID and trick Notes into working, but a) that's not a sustainable solution and could break at any time, and b) it introduces unnecessary security risks just to use a shitty app. I've gone full OneNote on my Z Fold and Windows laptop as a result.
@@Ishpreetb264keep spreading that misinformation, that was the case some years ago but there are plenty of youtubers showing linux getting near or identical battery life
I regret buying a macbook 3 years, not because it does not work well, but the nightmare stories of repairs and reliability made me afraid to use it. I am very disappointed in laptops such as framework not having a good timeline for expending to delivering to my country.
See, I LOVE that you love these new machines! And I love that there may actually be good competition for Apple as that competition may help to get some parity between the two worlds. If there are MacBook Air analogs on the PC side, maybe that will get Apple to increase RAM and storage options without the price gouging. I know.. I know... you can laugh at me now, but one can hope!
I'm really happy to see that Windows laptops are a great choice again, especially while remaining on x86. I've recently gotten a Ryzen AI 370 laptop, and it's been really fantastic. Decent battery life, powerful and runs reasonably cool and all of my applications work. Really looking forward to seeing Intel's offering for more powerful laptops using similar technology.
Well as you can see if you watched the first 30s of the video: Windows laptops finally come out with mobile chips, after loosing marketshare to Mac for since 2020.
AMD has been pretty efficient for years, I am bit surprised about the noise you mention, my 4 year old Lenovo Legion 5 with a Ryzen 5 CPU still lasts for 8 hours and completely silent, although I run Linux mostly.
@@Me-eb3wv I boot to windows for most games, but you might be able to run them also from Linux, I just did not bother. I bought a gamer laptop mainly for extensibility and just to have a chance for the odd game.
Glad you've covered this topic; M1 Air user here, and I couldn't see myself reverting to Windows-based laptops because of how absolutely incredible M chips are. This is a breath of fresh air.
Depends entirely on what you do. For someone who loves to game, a mac would mean that I either don't game in a hotel room, OR have to also carry around a gaming machine. At that point, just skip the mac.
I'll be getting the Intel Lunar Lake model, but I think I'm done with Windows due to Recall. Apple is a hell no product line for me. I program and video edit and thankfully I can do on Linux. A little photo editing via Affinity via Bottles. The only decision I have to make is between Ubuntu and Arch.
@@spencercarruth9706 Apple has impressive tech, but the way they deliver it and the prices they charge for upgrades make me reluctant to buy anything from them
@@spencercarruth9706windows and mac are just spyware and no debloat tool can fully stop it even if u use a better laptop or a pc linux still performs faster then those 2 and its just more secure and private every1should care about privacy cuz in 2024 data is power
Definitely do, there's still nothing on the Windows side that competes with a Macbook universally efficiency-wise and the Lunar Lake laptops have really only managed to be effective RUclips playback devices while remaining efficient. The M3 Air used half of the power of the 7840u to accomplish an identical Handbrake encode, that's pretty disappointing for x86 still. M4 will crush these offerings, it allegedly beats the HX370 as a 10 core ARM CPU.
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@@ALmaN11223344 ah thats cool too bad that in the real world lunar lake laptops have much better battery life then macbooks
The reason I am happy about "windows" laptops is because all of them are also Linux laptops. That is not true with macbooks. I cannot begin to describe how much I hate macOS. Even windows is better. As a power user, I use Linux on my personal device, windows+WSL on my work device and linux on all the dev servers that I usually do most of my work on. Windows laptops have been great for many years now except for battery life and that is also nearly on par now.
first you can run linux in macbook and secondly there is no person on earth that would prefer windows + WSL than just doing it in a macbook unless you are someone that enjoys inconvenience good for you i guess
I feel Qualcomm got the first punch but intel came back with the TKO. I'm very impressed with what intel has been able to do and is my pick for my next pc
For anyone who wants to do more than basic usage, I recommend the AMD machine because it has 24 CPU threads vs Intel's 8 & Radeon has more mature GPU drivers that work reliably.
but if you are considering lite Video editing on these Machines then Intel's Performance on video timeline way better than AMD. Timeline Scrubbing is smoother on Intel due to its Unrivaled QuickSync Encoders
@@random_person618 i think you're mixing things up intel removed hyperthreading for these lunar lake chips. It has fewer cores which is the actual hardware . Threads are virtual components.
I found a excellent solution to the Windows/Mac issues by running Parallels (paid version) with the ARM version of Windows on my Mac. That means I can run Davinci Resolve on the Mac (without having to purchase a power hungry Nvidia GPU based laptop) and still use my Winodws apps and Windows Explorer can be used transparently on the Mac folders. Windows is super fast and when you suspend Windows, you get all your memory available for Mac applications.
Do you mean the new ARM version of Windows that was designed for Qualcomm? Sounds great as Parallels has been very disappointing for me (M2 15 Air with 16GB ram). Slow and jerky.
The problem is not the hardware now, the problem is the Windows OS itself. It's like an abandoned place full of bugs while missing basic everyday functionalities.
...for less than 1% of users. Most people have 0 functionality missing. Powershell plus basic innate in-GUI functionality cover 99% of people's use cases with no issues.
Missing basic everyday functionality like biometric authentication? Oh, that's Linux, unless you jump through a bunch of command line and file editing hoops.
@@dansanger5340 For example most people today capture photos with their smartphones. Yet there is not a good photo management functionality in Windows OS, there are no tags, no smart albums etc. MacOS has the Apple photos app that is far superior than windows Photos app. Another thing is the passwords, there's not a password manager built-in, like Apple's Passwords app. The list can go on.
Here are some basic every-day functionalities that are currently missing from Windows OS: - Lack of photo tagging system, people can't tag and organize their photos - Lack of smart albums - Lack of a built-in screen recording functionality (X-box game bar? Seriously?) - Lack of a built-in password manager - Lack of a built-in notes taking & organizing app - Lack of photo/video codecs out-of-the-box - Lack of automation tools for repetitive tasks - Lack of integrated PDF tools (viewing, editing, signing) - Lack of a solid multi-device sync (laptops, tablets, smartphones etc) - Lack of a solid notification system - Lack of consistent UI and controls (legacy panels here & there)
@TechAltar at 2:15 you made a major factual error about MacBook storage. These are the preconfigured laptops, you CAN indeed choose more than 512GB of storage for a MacBook Air, up to 2TB.
@@AvoidingSpam I'm not really sure where you heard that but I have had no issues. The FW13 seems to be build to be completely inoffensive in every regard. Standard size, standard aluminum build, standard keyboard, screen, etc. The point is to make a laptop that just works and you don't have to think about so it's longevity is long. The keyboard isn't concave, it isn't mechanical, it isn't low profile. It's just a keyboard and typing on it is completely fine. I personally prefer it to a MBP14 keyboard.
That Zenbook looks so sweet. I don't know who's heading up design for ASUS but their hardware is always so pretty with a lot of unexpected details. It never feels like they're trying to copy a trend.
I tried using Linux (mint) and I found it to be a disappointing experience. There were many bugs that made it frustrating to work with, and the system felt overly complex for performing even simple tasks. While I appreciate the community's enthusiasm for Linux, I believe that many users tend to overlook or downplay its downsides. This can create a skewed perception making it seem more user friendly than it actually is.
It is very easy to adjust the Wattage of Ryzen CPUs and as a power user (I assume you to be) you can just dial it down according to what you are actually doing, which will dramatically increase the battery life of your laptop. Less heat, less power draw, more battery life, benefit.
@@xfghffhfg I think it's both. I recently (as in the past few months) see Linux being mentioned quite a lot more often than a few years back. From people (both digitally and people I know IRL) and YT channels I've been following for many years, some of which are not even related to (that kind of) technology.
I mean, between 4 and 5 % of the population, and probably a bit more since we are the kind to use Firefox with "do not track me" or anti-fingerprinting measures which either make us not being counted in the stats or being the average guy (a chrome user on windows)
I just gave up on Windows and installed Linux. Even used Macs were too expensive for me. (Unless I opt for something uselessly old.) Windows is just... no.
I used to be a windows guy through and through but i had to switch to a macbook air 15 M3 a few months ago because using my windows laptop on the go was a nightmare. I cant see myself going back until they can actual exceed the performance of M series chips with minimal fan noise and heat. Also windows needs to fix many,many, many bugs with windows 11. Windows 11 has been horrible for me compared to windows 10, honestly worse than windows 8. Im an apple hater but you gotta hand it to them the M series of processors have been a home run
Why not switch to Windows Phone/Firefox OS or Ubuntu Touch in 2016? Many people just prefer to use Windows on and don't want to worry about software availability. On to of that, Linux probably is not ready for those laptops
@@trigger21m Me and many people are not going to compromise their workflows because of a promise. If that worked then people would switch to Windows 10 Mobile because it was meant to get regular desktop Win32 software at some point. I do switch to Linux from time to time to see how it's going. I think that I could switch if I was willing to put some time into it, but for many drivers, software and the overall UX are still behind and the decentralised nature of Linux doesn't help. Valve might change that, but literally has to spearhead and moneyhat many things like Wayland development
@@TheTytan007 I see very good progress and feel the situation is getting better + bullish on cosmic DE. But yeah I know that people are willing to give away their freedom and privacy for a bit of comfort or false sense of security. I get it, but still it's not a good thing to do.
Good thing everyone should do : when you have 2 options, do not choose the more comfortable, but the more sovereign one, the one that leaks less data (cash vs mobilePayment, selfhosted solutions vs cloud, linux vs windows, ...).
Nice comparison and good pick, Lunar Lake has certainly delivered - well done Intel! X-Elite is still lacking SW optimization besides being also amazingly efficient, Qualcomm needs to do more work also on the Linux side to make their chips more popular. AMD option is usually great for tighter budged, however in comparison to Lunar Lake it has to improve its efficiency and start using on package RAM same as Intel and Apple Mx chips. AMD can offer a lot when it comes to rendering and gaming, however it won't as long on battery as other two. Good quick review, well done!
I see the point Windows laptops, for productivity use cases, catching up with Macs in hardware department, but, what about Windows as an OS for productivity use case? I find Windows 11 very unsnappy, expecially with file explorer program, which is filled with bugs. The worst part is the multiple desktops management, which is very slow and very buggy.
Having used windows as a developer, I'd love to use Mac. Windows is so asz, it struggles to run even on 12 core, 32GB ram. I could use linux but considering my schedule I'd rather not take on that headache.
I'd say if you want to dev, Linux is probably the easiest and fastest path since 1. Today a fresh install of Linux is as much of a hassle as a fresh install of windows, everything you expect a computer to do works out of the box 2. Everything in dev world is meant to be done either exclusively on Linux or "on Linux and here are also the instructions on how to run it through chocolatey/homebrew but you need to do this" 3. if you ever need to manage something on a unix-based system the experience running linux will be a benefit If your job is 8 hours of I would say the opposite, but for a dev, Linux really is the best bet
@@Louis-L186 For some higher-level projects sure. But many firmware-level and hardware design projects still primarily target a Windows development platform. Most driver development projects also target Windows. I can't do my work on Linux.
We both have almost the same PC case for our desktops! I have the larger one in white to fit a larger radiator but I absolutely love the all steel design and magnetic system.
@@Gramini yeah, just realised - when I wrote the comment I somehow thought all of them were ARM, but the intel one looks really great - the only problem is the price :D I don't have 1.6k to spent right now - just bought a gaming pc for that price
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I feel the lack of explicit separation between the ad and video in this one is highly misleading and probably not okay by german advertising standards.
The link takes me to Bellroy, and they greet with a nice message box, but I cannot go past it. Chrome, Windows 10.
Got it! This is one of those sites that don't work with the idontcareaboutcookies. How I hate the EU and these cookie warnings 😡
@@gerGoPrint3D Got the same issue with Firefox.
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Me switching to Linux: 👁️_👁️
Update: no, I'm not switching, but Linux became a nice hobby for me. Linux isn't ready for my use case and there are ways to fix what i don't like about Windows
I feel like everyone around is switching to Linux while youtubers still push the big tech agenda to force ppl into buying shit
I mean if you need some propriatery software that you can only run on mac or windows then I understand.. but if not, they Linux ftw
@@MrOfigenkohuh?? i love linux, but let's be honest. most people don't even know what it is, let alone switching to it.
@@MrOfigenko Dude, basically no one is changing to Linux when you look outside our RUclips tech bubble
@@MrOfigenko you "feel"?
Samsung recently opened up a lot of their formerly exclusive apps for everyone on the Microsoft Store. That makes the experience with Windows even more seamless
@@VortexEXTREME Phone (Dialer), Galaxy Buds (for multi-point), Gallery, Quick Share (Samsung's version has additional features Google hasn't implemented yet)
Including the Notes app?
@@casualtechreviewer1196 Nope, Notes still not available.
Where can I read about this?
@@casualtechreviewer1196 you can actually circumvent and install the notes app. I forgot how I did it but you can do it.
I switched to a MacBook Air M1 after using Windows all my life. I found the MacBook to be amazing in performance and efficiency and kept it for over 3 years but I still always felt like the OS was missing things. Gone back to Windows and with all these new efficient Windows laptops, it's a good time to be buying!
What did you get?
I have the same Macbook Air M1 and while I am really happy with it, I'm just not sold on the OS at all. My main desktop rig is Windows so I think my next laptop will be a Windows one as well.
SideKick my foot
@@Mikri90 I've sold the Macbook Air due to it's age and thought would get a some money back for it whilst I can. Got a good price for it, as it was top spec one with 16GB. I've not actually got it's replacement yet, using my old Dell XPS with is hot and lasts about 3 hours 🤣 I'm shopping about but think I'm going to go with a Lunar Lake Laptop. Was going to go with a Snapdragon but these Lunar Lake look really impressive and have no compatibility issues. Might hold off for the new Surface Laptop.
tbh opposites for me if there was a none apple laptop that has MacOS i would switch in a instant windows just doesn't do the job for me as a developer it dumbs you down so much and full of bugs and problems
@@mohamedtrfnx6632 Not if you're using it correctly 👀
Linux users try not yell, I Use Linux Challenge (Impossible)
i use arch btw
i use nixos btw
i use popOS! btw
Git good and use Gentoo
Classic arch user
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2:16 Holy shit $400 for 8GB more ram and 256GB more storage is criminal
So, is it safe to say, A MONOPOLY?
Yay for non-upgradable stuff! Let's keep buying at whatever price they ask!
typical apple shit
Nvidia’s been taking notes
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2:15 Storage on the Airs is *not* limited to 512GB, those are just the various base specs - you can upgrade it when you click in to buy. But Apple *does* charge an egregiously ridiculous amount of money to upgrade to 1TB or 2TB of storage, and similarly for RAM upgrades.
Seriously how did this slip through editing and not more people notice it?
Yeah was just going to comment this as well
Same problem i have with MAC. I am windows user my whole life and started using MAC after m1, still i can't get used myself on MAC OS after 4 years. I still prefer windows for everything.
Just switched to MacOS, and my main issue is windows management even with the new windows snapping update. Literally an important part of PC use too, so it makes no sense to me.
Same. Mac OS just sucks. I tried running windows in parallels and it's just not the same. I'd seriously rather use Windows 98 than Mac OS. I use vintage computers all the time so that's not an exaggeration. Windows 98 is so much better than Mac OS. I was really hoping that Windows on arm would run natively on the M series macs but unfortunately that's not the case. Then of course you've got the hardware which is not upgradable or repairable. A modern mac is about as repairable as a disposable paper bag. I didn't have a choice but to use a Mac because I need the longer battery life but now with these newer PCs the battery life is comparable to a Mac so I can switch back. Thank fricking God.
@@thelbtlover Have you tried Asahi Linux ? May (or may not) be what you need ;) same for @Reversi0mk and @chhoyla
Yes, screw macOS, but the devices themselves are amazing. It sucks that Bootcamp isn’t really a thing for the new MacBooks (“but, Parallels,” no).
@@zsampsaside from the premium feel and the OLED screens, Macs don’t really offer anything of real value
95% of the people that swear by macs are people who have the same computing requirements as chrome book users, meaning that if you’re a power user of any kinda be ready to pay for an overpriced MacBook Pro/mac studio
I’m not a windows fanboy since it has its flaws, but it’s still the best OS for power users, gamers and enthusiast (think of 3d CAD hobbyist, self taught musicians interested in a DAW etc). There’s just an endless amount of third party software/hardware support to build and create anything you’ve ever wanted, the only limit being as to how creative you are
I do appreciate Linux since it offers an alternative to windows and macOS, but I don’t know much about it aside from you have 100% control of your system
I love your nouanced, sober and rational reporting and reasoning for everything you do
Yes, the nouance is really hitting me good 😂
@@maimee1 🤓
*announced
Lunar Lake is the x86 laptop chip I’ve been waiting for. The only reason I ever considered a MacBook was for the battery life, but I’m not particularly fond of macOS. Apple’s anti-repair practices with their silicon-based Macs have made me even more apprehensive.
It’s absurd that a “pro” machine comes with just 8 GB of RAM, aggressively swapping to the SSD to maintain performance, which reduces the SSD’s lifespan. If my Windows laptop has a bad SSD, I can usually swap it out or upgrade to a bigger one if I need more storage.
With Intel getting its act together, it should help keep AMD in check, ultimately leading to a better overall market for consumers.
At the end of the day, I don’t care if it doesn’t win the efficiency war with Apple, especially if they’re just packing a bigger battery to compensate. What I need is an ultrabook with decent service options and more than 8 GB of RAM. I’m also curious to see how these 8 GB RAM Macs will perform in the long run as AI models continue to grow.
Well, the AI memory usage really mixed the things there, but don't forget Apple still supported their 2GB RAM iPhone 8/3GB RAM iPhone 8 Plus just about 2 years ago, when even the 6GB wasn't really acceptable on Android.. it's about the same, the OS+Chip design in one hand solve a lot of things. This is why Apple was able to run even the most demanding benchmarks with just 8GB RAM on Mac, when Windows wasn't even able to start the same benchmark under 16GB RAM.. they are not the same, don't threate them as the same.
@@TamasKiss-yk4st Your point with Apple's old device support is definitely a good point, but most Android manufacturers (notably Samsung, which would incentivize other manufacturers to lengthen their support as well) are now adopting a longer support period, which is some good news.
Your point about OS+Chip design is not very good, especially if you are referring to Apple's ARM architecture, M series chips. ARM actually necessitates more RAM relative to most x86 architecture PCs (most Windows computers) because of the lack of VRAM. Unlike x86, ARM uses the same ram for both the GPU and CPU, thus requiring more relative RAM, even if the OS was more optimized.
And remember, the reason customers are dissatisfied with Apple is not an issue of whether or not Apple devices require more than 8GB of RAM. *Whether or not the average customer needs 8GB, and whether or not Apple devices use more than 8GB, is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand.* The real issue here is price-to-performance. Apple could very well include a minimum of 16GB on their rather expensive Mac series laptops (as has been industry standard since ~2015). *The one and only reason they don't, is because they are greedy, and know they can get away with it.*
The best value is a used/refurbished Pro model. Ports, power, 120Hz, etc. ESPECIALLY Apple refurbished you can find on Woot. Window's compatibility advantage disappears with ARM narrowing the gap imo (on laptops obviously)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st You are partly right, but when an app needs more RAM, you need more RAM, you cannot go around it a lot. Sure, disk caching masks a part of that, but look how LLMs are now coming on device and that needs to be in memory to have it work; low memory = you cannot load it.
Lunar Lake looks great. Great to see Intel coming back, but Windows is still a trash fire except for gaming.
Crazy that the AMD Ryzen is getting almost on par with the Apple Silicon's performance while being an x86 chip. That means you could easily just run a normal Linux distro on it.
I would say the intel lunar lake is the best deal currently. Good software with now good hardware
How is that crazy? The other way around is crazy, the Ryzen consumes tons more power in the same workloads and that makes it incredibly unimpressive.
@@ALmaN11223344the point is that it's impressive for an x86 chip
@@kjellbeats x86 has conventionally been the performance leader, only recently did Apple even begin pushing x86 CPU manufacturers to do better. It isn't crazy for a x86 CPU to be competitive in some situations, that much should be expected given how long their manufacturers have been at it. For the M3 to still be eating Intel and AMDs lunch in performance per watt and idle efficiency is what's crazy.
Edit: And now it's entirely unimpressive, the HX370 is barely competing with the M4 (let alone the M4 Pro or Max). x86 is a dying architecture in the mobile space despite AMD's best attempts to breathe life back into it. Single core on x86 will NEVER catch up (this is hyperbolic, but they're 33% behind here and without Apple just stopping they're screwed), multicore is only staying in the same ballpark because AMD has already drew the clocks down as far as they possibly can into the voltage/frequency curve.
The amd laptop draws 28 watts compared to 12 watts the mac draws. Macs never been praised for being faster, they are praised because they are 90 percent of the performance at 70 percent less powet
I fully agree, the Zenbook is simply wonderful. Both my wife and myself have one - she got a Gen 13, and I waited for Meteor Lake. It sounds like Lunar Lake is even better. There are there are still some driver problems for me, though, so beware of that.
What kinds of driver problems?
@@DanKaschel Because it's 16:10, sometimes fullscreen video content would have weird tearing; this has been fixed with driver updates. I use an external soundcard (Scarlett Focusrite) for general use and hobby music production, and sometimes the audio glitches out so I have to plug it out and in again. AFAIK they haven't released specific drivers for new architecture Intel yet.
The main positives are nearly no noise, reasonable integrated GPU performance and solid battery life so far almost a year in. It's really good as a "convertible" laptop that powers my setup through a USB-C cable.
My experience with Asus has become terrible recently regarding motherboards. I had to switch to MSI for better stability when I use more than two PCIe slots and also because the WiFi chipset was not working properly with Linux.
I hope it is not the same for their laptop and that they also focus of their system stability, not only the aesthetics.
@@benjixlegaulois5000 I can't say one way or another but my experience is that each motherboard (or at least manufacturer/chipset combo) is its own beast. MSI motherboards might be great one generation and then terrible the next. There's no brand that just always hits it out of the park.
Motherboards have a hard job. They have to deal with an enormous variety of hardware configurations, voltage tolerances, and weird interactions. That's not to excuse manufacturers for inadequate testing, just to say that laptops are a fundamentally different challenge.
@@DanKaschel This is exactly what I experienced without be able to find the proper words, thanks! Each time there is a new chipset architecture, it's like a new lottery among manufacturers.
Everyone is talking about wanting to get away from Windows because of recall and other anti-consumer practices, and you're talking about wanting to switch back.
the most anti-consumer practices are that of apple
@@umer.on.youtube At least Apple doesn't openly sell your data to brokers or posts ads on your desktop....
Yes, both Apple and Microsoft are absolutely horrible companies, let's get the heck away from both
It's still the best option for most people. Mac is so locked down and proprietary and Linux is a mess.
@@Cantimule Well, Microsoft has also worked on the software side to patronize and disempower its users for years. But if you want a system that simply works and doesn't have hardware that's nailed down, Windows is still the way to go.
Do they still have ads in the start menu in Windows?
Yes
it never had ads? I'm running windows 11 and there is not a single ad in the start menu. The only things I see in the start menu right now are some apps I pinned to the start menu and a few of the files I recently opened. And if I expand the start menu apps into all the apps installed on the PC, there are still no ads.
@@lycanthoss hm, maybe I thought the news an play tiles were ads. Under "explore". But i haven't looked at Windows 11 for a while now.
maybe they will "recall" their OS from "windows" to Win-Ad-Owns
@@lycanthoss you might be from Europe but everywhere else there are games and music ads
Still using a MBP M1. Does everything I need it to, the screen is great (although the blooming in dark scenes of a movie can be annoying), speakers are amazing and keyboard is nice to use. Glad Intel is seemingly back on track,though, and doing it with x86 is pretty impressive - i did not see that coming.
Same (about not seeing it coming). It has forced me to learn a lot more about CPU architecture.
With pre-installed spyware recall. No thank you. Stik with Windows 10 for a few years and then switch ro Linux.
You realize windows 11 has NEVER shipped with recall, and when it eventually is, it will be optional.... Right?
@@DanKaschel yeah sure ruclips.net/video/jW6b4ObnYMY/видео.htmlsi=AZni6d3YYzMlOmt3
@@DanKaschelit wont be optional and even if it is still other aspects of windows are spying on you
@@Z_fentomFentom I mean, believe what you want in defiance of all evidence.
I think you're referring to telemetry? Yeah, that's a thing and you should be aware of it. Unfortunately, data is collected on us everywhere we go now. I don't like it the only viable alternative is linux and I'm not willing to put up with the downsides. (I see this as a person who runs a Linux server and is comfortable in Linux -- I don't want to use it as a desktop experience.)
You can disable recall using the autounattend.xml file.
Good to see Intel coming with a not too crappy low powered CPU
MacOS is kind of in a weird place now, with poor app compatibility and desktop/window management compared to windows or Linux. Now that the efficiency of x86 laptops is a lot better, the only reason I use my MacBook pro is for logic pro.
At the same time, though, Microsoft seems committed to making our user experiences with their OS and apps worse, so Linux seems to be the best way forward with Valve and Arch teaming up.
@@electricmiragemedia how is macOS app compatibility worse than Linux? I view macOS as best of both worlds. You can use most power user features of Linux while also getting commercial software like Microsoft word.
I can't wait to see your 1 month using Linux challange!
Adobe Premiere kills this challenge.
l heard that adobe programs from 2021 work perfectly on wine, but only the cracked ones
@gelber_kaktus If you are still using Adobe Premiere in 2024 with all the crap they have done to their consumers lately, and all the cheaper/free options out there that are more stable, you are either too lazy to learn something new, being forced to use it by and employer, or a sucker.
@@gelber_kaktusalmost no1 needs adobe realisticly u could either just use a VM or photopea thats free photoshop on browser thats works like adobe and u can pay for AI features
He won't do it because he has a life and business to run instead of troubleshooting everyday.
6:55 this seems what Nintendo's Alarmo seems to do to detect presence for the alarm clock.
I am so happy i left both of these systems behind. Thankfully i do not need the video productivity to be locked in the Apple products as the only real solution.
Not everyone is as lucky but i am happy i am.
But good Arm based windows laptop is a great thing. Actually eventually opens ups the route for putting Linux on them that can have great potential.
Worth mentioning that Just Josh found out the Lunar Lake chips still have a noticeably inefficient power curve, worse than all of the competition - still, the low power target does well enough that casual users won't ever tell. Plus, it's a fascinating architecture!
If I get the chance I'll be going with a Strix Point laptop simply because I need that multicore performance, but everything is looking great at this point
Watch Geekerwan's review, they explained how the power efficiency curve doesn't necessarily translate the platform's actual performance. Lunar Lake is really great except for the part where the maximum CPU core configuration is only 4P + 4E, an 8P + 4E would have been nice.
Thats what you get when you prioritize P Core over E Core. Lunar lake could easily achieve better MT by trading 1 or 2 P core with a cluster of E Core or two. I guess intel prefer snappiness of the device over better MT performance.
@@SussySmurf Oh, that's a name I haven't seen in a while! But yes, there's a lot of truth to that, as the IPC of the P-cores is very competitive, which is pretty obvious when looking at single core benchmarks. The core layout is definitely dragging them down at the moment.
@@Arkan_Fadhila They want to sell them as always-on PCs, so having the biggest ratio of E-cores possible is very much useful. Counterproductive for anyone who has a need for performance, but still.
@@SussySmurfMy ideal laptop rigjt now would be with no NPU and in that spare space to have 2-4 more P cores (or combination). The NPU is eating a lot of space and I don't really see a good usage for that in the next few years. When we really need that, Intel will be on a much better node (probably sub 18a) and you gain space from that advancement.
Thank you, great review!
He does his research very well, that is why I watch his videos.
Not an expert, but I suppose ARM cpu's still need some rounds of software upgrades to support the architecture?
What so after 13 years windows on ARM it’s still not good 😮
I used to use Mac laptops, and back in 2010 I actually think they were miles ahead of Windows but that's ancient history - I much prefer a trimmed down install of Windows 11 or POP OS these days.
So which one did you keep as daily driver?
Laptop chargers often run at a different voltage than phone usbc chargers
The storage options and high prices for upgrades always grinds my gears when it comes to apple products
You can choose up to 2TB of storage on any new MacBook Air model, it does cost a lot of money though.
Which makes apple 2TB ssd unfeasible
2TB of Highest end consumer ssd is only 170 dollar while apple charges 800
On top of the fact you can reuse it, and if the laptop has issues you can easily extract it to slap in a new machine and extract the data
6:35 No other reviewer explained this feature, it's so useful!!
The MacBook Air is NOT limited to 512gb! You can go up to 2tb on the 13inch version.
Sure, if you want to pay out the ass and never be able to replace it without a micro-soldering bench.
@@nickthaskater I mean, my 24GB/1TB M3 Air was the same price as what Apple sells the 16GB/512GB model for and I don't really need to upgrade in the long run either, the M3's controller just supports up to 24GB of memory anyway
What good is qualcomm's multicore score if nothing runs on it
I'm really excited with the new windows laptops. I just want to wait 1 or 2 more years so that they are more efficient, ARM will be better and they will be closer to M4 quality (Hopefully fan less!). My only concern is that Qualcomm were concerned with sales and I'm worried they might not continue to go all chips in on these new processors. Time will tell
But then we will have M5/M6 so Apple will still be ahead
intel just made arm on windows irrelevant lunar lake is more efficient then snapdragon
Great review, thanks. Finally a review of the trackpad too!
good lucky on recall though
I'm looking forward to Recall. I'm not going to be the guinea pig, but if it turns out OK a year or so after official release, I'll consider it.
@@dansanger5340 bad bot
It’s optional.
Love your content mate! Can you tell us a little about your descktop pc? Maybe a video?
As a Windows user looking to upgrade my laptop, it's been a very weird year till now. I wonder though, when we'll get sth that can outright rival the M maxes.
strix halo hopefully
Never Intel can’t compete with Apple That’s why Apple left intel to make their own chips Apple will bleed money but will never ever compromise on performance What I really wonder is what will happen after chips will be made on 1nm technology ? 😂
I've waited a long time for this moment... but i learned to love my mba (with windows via paralells).
If only Samsung wasn't stupid and didn't lock the Samsung Notes app for Windows to Samsung laptops only. Sure, you can get a third-party app to spoof your hardware ID and trick Notes into working, but a) that's not a sustainable solution and could break at any time, and b) it introduces unnecessary security risks just to use a shitty app.
I've gone full OneNote on my Z Fold and Windows laptop as a result.
And why not Linux on any hardware (apple with Asahi or any Linux distro on PC) ?
Just in time for Microsoft Recall.
Forgetting privacy, Recall must be an SSD killer and probably glued in just like wear parts should be 😉
The average consumer is not paying any attention to the Recall drama.
It's opt in. Just turn it off and forget about it.
Happy with my mac air m1 works like a champ
Or you could stay cool and install Linux.
Linux always manages to break itself
@@LuisMan123 applies to both
Battery life on Linux is really bad though.
Hardware limitations is what's stopping me from getting Linux on laptop
@@Ishpreetb264keep spreading that misinformation, that was the case some years ago but there are plenty of youtubers showing linux getting near or identical battery life
I thought he said PORN activity on the go" instead of "productivity on the go". I was like wow that's brave of him to be so upfront 🤣
I regret buying a macbook 3 years, not because it does not work well, but the nightmare stories of repairs and reliability made me afraid to use it. I am very disappointed in laptops such as framework not having a good timeline for expending to delivering to my country.
Macbook repairability isn't good, but they're usually tanks. You really don't need to worry so much. They're literally carved out blocks of metal.
Don't buy Framework! Framwork has quality problems for that price
Durability is awesome in macbooks. Bought one back in 2015 after my hp crashed during a presentation. Its a tank.
Don't have regrets! life is to short for that. Salutari din Germania.
@@YakovFn what are these quality problems then?
See, I LOVE that you love these new machines! And I love that there may actually be good competition for Apple as that competition may help to get some parity between the two worlds. If there are MacBook Air analogs on the PC side, maybe that will get Apple to increase RAM and storage options without the price gouging. I know.. I know... you can laugh at me now, but one can hope!
I never bought anything Apple and I plan to keep it this way.
same but with apple computer , i did have a ipad back then
I'm your twin in a far away land 😅
Nobody cares.
@@timg6930 You cared enough to even comment. Thank you!
Just say you are poor
the intro is sooo sickkk omgggg the neons flashing on you and the beat feels unreal.
you wnat ti know where that track came from. So di I.
1:48 he uses Firefox, he is a true homey. #firefoxmasterrace
Oldschool TechAltar review video - and I like it!
I'm really happy to see that Windows laptops are a great choice again, especially while remaining on x86. I've recently gotten a Ryzen AI 370 laptop, and it's been really fantastic. Decent battery life, powerful and runs reasonably cool and all of my applications work. Really looking forward to seeing Intel's offering for more powerful laptops using similar technology.
Loved your Signal T-shirt
so what happened ? "The Slow Death of windows" isn't working anymore ?
The OS has other issues haha.
Well as you can see if you watched the first 30s of the video: Windows laptops finally come out with mobile chips, after loosing marketshare to Mac for since 2020.
Running a backend code takes around 20 times longer than mac. Something to do with windows old file management
Those are obviously clickbait titles
@@river."A backend code?" What does that even mean?
AMD has been pretty efficient for years, I am bit surprised about the noise you mention, my 4 year old Lenovo Legion 5 with a Ryzen 5 CPU still lasts for 8 hours and completely silent, although I run Linux mostly.
How’s gaming in Linux
@@Me-eb3wv I boot to windows for most games, but you might be able to run them also from Linux, I just did not bother. I bought a gamer laptop mainly for extensibility and just to have a chance for the odd game.
Glad you've covered this topic; M1 Air user here, and I couldn't see myself reverting to Windows-based laptops because of how absolutely incredible M chips are. This is a breath of fresh air.
Depends entirely on what you do. For someone who loves to game, a mac would mean that I either don't game in a hotel room, OR have to also carry around a gaming machine. At that point, just skip the mac.
I'll be getting the Intel Lunar Lake model, but I think I'm done with Windows due to Recall. Apple is a hell no product line for me. I program and video edit and thankfully I can do on Linux. A little photo editing via Affinity via Bottles. The only decision I have to make is between Ubuntu and Arch.
The Recall feature is not mandatory; you can disable it if you don't find it useful, like I did with hundreds of Windows features I didn't need
Why are Macs a “hell no” for you?
@@spencercarruth9706 Apple has impressive tech, but the way they deliver it and the prices they charge for upgrades make me reluctant to buy anything from them
@@spencercarruth9706windows and mac are just spyware and no debloat tool can fully stop it even if u use a better laptop or a pc linux still performs faster then those 2 and its just more secure and private every1should care about privacy cuz in 2024 data is power
@@spencercarruth9706 for me it is their price and the apple cult and the evil practice for consumer
You have summoned the Linux users. All 5 of them.
😂😂
There are DOZENS of us!
IT'S 4!
4%
It's lonely at the top
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
yeah, but can you click on the top right corner of the trackpad and get that click under consistent pressure?
You keep clicking mam 😂
What a bad time to switch to Windows. With ads on the start menu, copilot, recall
there are? cant see any on my pc
The copilot button is reprogrammable & the "ads" on the start menu are suggestions that you can opt in or out of.
@@PiracyAgreement and you don't think those "suggestions" are sponsored in any way? almost like an ad?
what adds...?? Windows 11, typical install and no adds.
No they totally are @@krelsen7
Just... there is off button. Also, Pro version is better than Home.
What is the image editing software being used at 03:40
???
Nice to see windows laptops finally catching up to Apple a little bit. Still can’t stand windows OS tho
Same but the opposite, Mac OS just sucks to me
I stick with my m1 MBA and I’m happy that windows laptops did pay attention to power efficiency.
Definitely do, there's still nothing on the Windows side that competes with a Macbook universally efficiency-wise and the Lunar Lake laptops have really only managed to be effective RUclips playback devices while remaining efficient. The M3 Air used half of the power of the 7840u to accomplish an identical Handbrake encode, that's pretty disappointing for x86 still. M4 will crush these offerings, it allegedly beats the HX370 as a 10 core ARM CPU.
@@ALmaN11223344 ah thats cool too bad that in the real world lunar lake laptops have much better battery life then macbooks
The reason I am happy about "windows" laptops is because all of them are also Linux laptops. That is not true with macbooks. I cannot begin to describe how much I hate macOS. Even windows is better. As a power user, I use Linux on my personal device, windows+WSL on my work device and linux on all the dev servers that I usually do most of my work on. Windows laptops have been great for many years now except for battery life and that is also nearly on par now.
Asahi Linux : hold my beer I'm gonna build a driver for the macbook in 48 hours
first you can run linux in macbook and secondly there is no person on earth that would prefer windows + WSL than just doing it in a macbook unless you are someone that enjoys inconvenience good for you i guess
@@mohamedtrfnx6632he literally told you he prefers windows+WSL, so I assume he's not a person? 😂
@@vision2003 "unless you are someone that enjoys inconvenienc"
I feel Qualcomm got the first punch but intel came back with the TKO. I'm very impressed with what intel has been able to do and is my pick for my next pc
For anyone who wants to do more than basic usage, I recommend the AMD machine because it has 24 CPU threads vs Intel's 8 & Radeon has more mature GPU drivers that work reliably.
but if you are considering lite Video editing on these Machines then Intel's Performance on video timeline way better than AMD. Timeline Scrubbing is smoother on Intel due to its Unrivaled QuickSync Encoders
Does the Intel not have hyper threading?
@@DanKaschel Ofc it does. They're saying that the Intel has less threads than AMD.
@@random_person618 i think you're mixing things up intel removed hyperthreading for these lunar lake chips. It has fewer cores which is the actual hardware . Threads are virtual components.
@@DanKaschel No they removed it for these chips.
Have you tried the app rectangle on Mac, I used it all the time before I went back to windows
I found a excellent solution to the Windows/Mac issues by running Parallels (paid version) with the ARM version of Windows on my Mac. That means I can run Davinci Resolve on the Mac (without having to purchase a power hungry Nvidia GPU based laptop) and still use my Winodws apps and Windows Explorer can be used transparently on the Mac folders. Windows is super fast and when you suspend Windows, you get all your memory available for Mac applications.
Do you mean the new ARM version of Windows that was designed for Qualcomm? Sounds great as Parallels has been very disappointing for me (M2 15 Air with 16GB ram). Slow and jerky.
but are they fanless like macbook air?
The problem is not the hardware now, the problem is the Windows OS itself.
It's like an abandoned place full of bugs while missing basic everyday functionalities.
...for less than 1% of users. Most people have 0 functionality missing. Powershell plus basic innate in-GUI functionality cover 99% of people's use cases with no issues.
Missing basic everyday functionality like biometric authentication? Oh, that's Linux, unless you jump through a bunch of command line and file editing hoops.
@@dansanger5340 For example most people today capture photos with their smartphones. Yet there is not a good photo management functionality in Windows OS, there are no tags, no smart albums etc. MacOS has the Apple photos app that is far superior than windows Photos app. Another thing is the passwords, there's not a password manager built-in, like Apple's Passwords app. The list can go on.
List 5 REAL issues pls and i will believe you
Here are some basic every-day functionalities that are currently missing from Windows OS:
- Lack of photo tagging system, people can't tag and organize their photos
- Lack of smart albums
- Lack of a built-in screen recording functionality (X-box game bar? Seriously?)
- Lack of a built-in password manager
- Lack of a built-in notes taking & organizing app
- Lack of photo/video codecs out-of-the-box
- Lack of automation tools for repetitive tasks
- Lack of integrated PDF tools (viewing, editing, signing)
- Lack of a solid multi-device sync (laptops, tablets, smartphones etc)
- Lack of a solid notification system
- Lack of consistent UI and controls (legacy panels here & there)
What are prices for this laptops?
Very expensive 🤷🏻
About tree-fiddy
@TechAltar at 2:15 you made a major factual error about MacBook storage. These are the preconfigured laptops, you CAN indeed choose more than 512GB of storage for a MacBook Air, up to 2TB.
Finaly a promotion I could use, needed a new Bellroy replacement wallet.
Frramwork 13 + fedora = perfrct
A year strong for me
@@AvoidingSpam I'm not really sure where you heard that but I have had no issues. The FW13 seems to be build to be completely inoffensive in every regard. Standard size, standard aluminum build, standard keyboard, screen, etc. The point is to make a laptop that just works and you don't have to think about so it's longevity is long. The keyboard isn't concave, it isn't mechanical, it isn't low profile. It's just a keyboard and typing on it is completely fine. I personally prefer it to a MBP14 keyboard.
That Zenbook looks so sweet. I don't know who's heading up design for ASUS but their hardware is always so pretty with a lot of unexpected details. It never feels like they're trying to copy a trend.
You making this video right as I'm about to switch to Linux after years of using Windows
I tried using Linux (mint) and I found it to be a disappointing experience. There were many bugs that made it frustrating to work with, and the system felt overly complex for performing even simple tasks. While I appreciate the community's enthusiasm for Linux, I believe that many users tend to overlook or downplay its downsides. This can create a skewed perception making it seem more user friendly than it actually is.
@@xfghffhfgi hope u understand linux mint isnt only version
@@xfghffhfg For this reason will an new Linux user running EndeavourOS (arch-based) try Mint in KVM
It is very easy to adjust the Wattage of Ryzen CPUs and as a power user (I assume you to be) you can just dial it down according to what you are actually doing, which will dramatically increase the battery life of your laptop. Less heat, less power draw, more battery life, benefit.
quite a lot of people talking about linux here. Are there more of us than i thought?
no, we just talk allot :)
@@xfghffhfg Yeah prob :D
@@xfghffhfg I think it's both. I recently (as in the past few months) see Linux being mentioned quite a lot more often than a few years back. From people (both digitally and people I know IRL) and YT channels I've been following for many years, some of which are not even related to (that kind of) technology.
I mean, between 4 and 5 % of the population, and probably a bit more since we are the kind to use Firefox with "do not track me" or anti-fingerprinting measures which either make us not being counted in the stats or being the average guy (a chrome user on windows)
Linux users are like vegans. You don't have to ask them, they'll let you know.
What is the photo editor you used @3:36 ?
Looks like the Affinity Photo logo top left
Except you have to use windows 11. Which is a deal breaker to many. Perhaps if you switched to Linux instead...
Let's push for a Linux Month challenge
Just purchased the 16gb Zenbook for $250 off (1149) and couldn't say no to the sale. Has anyone seen any huge slowdown with the 16gb model?
I just gave up on Windows and installed Linux.
Even used Macs were too expensive for me. (Unless I opt for something uselessly old.)
Windows is just... no.
I just got an M2 MBA for $550, and the M1 Pro variants are coming down into the $800 range.
@@ALmaN11223344 Too expensive for me.
@@ALmaN11223344 Still too expensive/too broke for that.
All these laptop hardware options are extremely amazing.
even windows gaming laptops thesedays can achieve 10+hrs on light activity..come a long way
sticking with my 2020 dell latitude until those qualcomm laptops can run linux perfectly
thank god for ARM, thought windows laptops would be crusty till the day i died
I used to be a windows guy through and through but i had to switch to a macbook air 15 M3 a few months ago because using my windows laptop on the go was a nightmare. I cant see myself going back until they can actual exceed the performance of M series chips with minimal fan noise and heat. Also windows needs to fix many,many, many bugs with windows 11. Windows 11 has been horrible for me compared to windows 10, honestly worse than windows 8.
Im an apple hater but you gotta hand it to them the M series of processors have been a home run
So many reasons to avoir using Microsoft products...
Why not switching to linux and use syncthing to sync the data with your smartphone and desktop?
Why not switch to Windows Phone/Firefox OS or Ubuntu Touch in 2016?
Many people just prefer to use Windows on and don't want to worry about software availability. On to of that, Linux probably is not ready for those laptops
@@TheTytan007 linux is ready, even if not perfect yet. Small comfort comes with a big price to pay...
@@trigger21m Me and many people are not going to compromise their workflows because of a promise. If that worked then people would switch to Windows 10 Mobile because it was meant to get regular desktop Win32 software at some point.
I do switch to Linux from time to time to see how it's going. I think that I could switch if I was willing to put some time into it, but for many drivers, software and the overall UX are still behind and the decentralised nature of Linux doesn't help. Valve might change that, but literally has to spearhead and moneyhat many things like Wayland development
@@TheTytan007 I see very good progress and feel the situation is getting better + bullish on cosmic DE.
But yeah I know that people are willing to give away their freedom and privacy for a bit of comfort or false sense of security.
I get it, but still it's not a good thing to do.
Good thing everyone should do : when you have 2 options, do not choose the more comfortable, but the more sovereign one, the one that leaks less data (cash vs mobilePayment, selfhosted solutions vs cloud, linux vs windows, ...).
Nice comparison and good pick, Lunar Lake has certainly delivered - well done Intel! X-Elite is still lacking SW optimization besides being also amazingly efficient, Qualcomm needs to do more work also on the Linux side to make their chips more popular. AMD option is usually great for tighter budged, however in comparison to Lunar Lake it has to improve its efficiency and start using on package RAM same as Intel and Apple Mx chips. AMD can offer a lot when it comes to rendering and gaming, however it won't as long on battery as other two. Good quick review, well done!
Was Windows 7 released again?
I see the point Windows laptops, for productivity use cases, catching up with Macs in hardware department, but, what about Windows as an OS for productivity use case? I find Windows 11 very unsnappy, expecially with file explorer program, which is filled with bugs. The worst part is the multiple desktops management, which is very slow and very buggy.
Obligatory "I'm actually a Linux user ☝️🤓" comment
But wrong video
Yeah, like a vegan commenting on a beef burger recipe 😂
That Corsair 4000D Airflow case is beautiful 😻
Having used windows as a developer, I'd love to use Mac. Windows is so asz, it struggles to run even on 12 core, 32GB ram. I could use linux but considering my schedule I'd rather not take on that headache.
linux is better for dev than shitty macos cause macos only work on overpriced apple product and is closed source
Using a Mac is as hard as using Linux once you need to do something slightly advanced.
I'd say if you want to dev, Linux is probably the easiest and fastest path since
1. Today a fresh install of Linux is as much of a hassle as a fresh install of windows, everything you expect a computer to do works out of the box
2. Everything in dev world is meant to be done either exclusively on Linux or "on Linux and here are also the instructions on how to run it through chocolatey/homebrew but you need to do this"
3. if you ever need to manage something on a unix-based system the experience running linux will be a benefit
If your job is 8 hours of I would say the opposite, but for a dev, Linux really is the best bet
@@Louis-L186 For some higher-level projects sure. But many firmware-level and hardware design projects still primarily target a Windows development platform. Most driver development projects also target Windows. I can't do my work on Linux.
I really love this competition we're getting from the chip makers!
CPU Naming is so weird now
What's that image editor at 3:38 ??????
Affinity Photo 2
Cool, now install Linux on it.
We both have almost the same PC case for our desktops! I have the larger one in white to fit a larger radiator but I absolutely love the all steel design and magnetic system.
now the only downside is that it runs windows, I guess
Luckily that's not locked down, so you can put any OS of your linking on it. It's a bit more difficult for the snapdragon ones though.
Pros: It runs Windows
Cons: It runs Windows
It's literally sn upside tho
@@Gramini yeah, just realised - when I wrote the comment I somehow thought all of them were ARM, but the intel one looks really great - the only problem is the price :D I don't have 1.6k to spent right now - just bought a gaming pc for that price