Yet another masterpiece delivered by the studio this week, the friend saga was and will always be a proof of Kubo's genius writing, not only adding tons of lore but also developing some of the best characters in this Arc!
Your edited analysis after rewatching is so brilliant. As a manga reader as much as anime watcher, I never thought about those points you brought. And they are very interesting and plausible.
15:09 The Quincies are in fact human and were human in this flashback as well, but after Yhwach's defeat by Yamamoto they retreated into the Wandenreich which exists within Soul Society. In order to exist within Soul Society, they would have had to convert themselves into Reishi and spiritual beings like the shinigami similar to what Ichigo and his friends did in the Soul Society Arc. This, and the fact that Quincies thrive on reishi, is the most reasonable explanation I can think of for their longetivity. This obviously doesn't apply to the Quincies like Masaki and the Ishida family who live as humans do in the Living World.
At first they were stated to be like that but let's be honest, in TYBW they're not. Arrancar Quincys, BG9, Pernida, Gerard, and Yhwach himself. Even Urahara's statements also indicates they're seperate from humans.
@@xaxally Arrancars are debatable imo. It's hard to tell if Asguiaro gathered Reishi by his own ability given to Yhwach or if the star he was given allowed him to do it. We also know too little about BG9 to make an assumption of what he is. Gerard and Pernida is interesting though given how little we know about them apart that they're Soul King parts. Askin said they ahd their powers before Yhwach but he did link his soul with theirs in Auswahlen so they're already under his power. I'm also curious if Gerard and Pernida are physical embodiments or if they were humans who hosted the Soul King parts like Ukitake did. I think most Quincies are still a special kind of human similar to how Fullbringers are still humans, and the above-listed are exceptions to the rule. The more power that Yhwach gives them however, the less human they become and turn into something else entirely. It's why Schrifts give them superhuman ablities and someone like Lille started out as human but became a new creature in his Volstandigs.
Also, take note that Jugram's uncle is abusing him. Yhwach kinda saved Jugram from his abusive uncle. So I think he was never really on board with Bazz's plan to kill Yhwach. He was just tagging along because Bazz's practically adopted him.
Friend might be a top 3 episode of the cour for me. What I love about the Friend Saga is that you can really see the perspective of things from both sides; Jugram is loyal to Yhwach because Yhwach killed his *very* abusive uncle inadvertently-which Jugram may see as a stroke of good fortune. While Bazz-B hates Yhwach because Yhwach killed everyone he knew and razed his castle to the ground. From the choreography, music, atmosphere, etc. it is undoubtedly one of the best episodes of the cour for me.
Young Jugram is voiced by Armin’s voice actor and The commander with the hat is voiced by Levi’s voice actor. Which makes it even funnier when the commander scolded young Jugram since it’s basically Levi scolding Armin.😂😂
So glad you actually take the time to discuss the character depths and draw parallels instead of the usual "So yeah, they were friends now they enemies damn!" Love seeing you draw conclusions as to where these relationships might take us in the anime.
I love the Jugram and Bazz dynamic in the flashback. Jugram is on the search for feelings of “worth” which is mainly why he stuck with Bazz as Jugram wanted to feel useful. However, he was just being strung along by Bazz in the search for revenge so when Yhwach - his unintentional savior - said that he needed Jugram, Jugram found an even greater sense of worth than what he got from Bazz.
in Cour 2 episode 1, there's a hint that this 2 was a besties, If you remember Bazz was the one who's the most disappointed when Yuha choose Uryu Over Jugram .
The sword used to kill Bazz was from his own house, the last words from Jugo to him were his full name, therefore Haschwalt severing their ties completely
There probably were groups of quincies who weren't agree with Yhwch or even against him. They could be used by Soul Society in the war. So Yhwch was unifying all quincies under his wing to go at war.
2:03 bazz b burned the sternritter symbol so that they can fight as friends and not sternritters because jugram denied fighting before and excused that sternritter infighting is not allowed. They fought as friends
The B on Bazz B was Balls 🥶 And yup, Hubert Voice was Hiroshi Kamiya ( Levi ) while Young Jugo and Bazz was Marina Inoue ( Armin ) and Chiaki Kobayashi ( Mash ) Also the backstory looks like a shiganshina ambiance vibes
15:09 You can count them as different. Since Urahara stated they're the opposite of Shinigamis. You could say Shingamis are dead spiritual beings and Quincys are living spiritual beings.
i still love aizen, there's just much more depth to yhwach. i also just love how yhwach does not give a shit😂 aizen will monologue all day about plans and troll ppl, while yhwach is more of an "actions speak louder than words" kinda villain
first of all bazz-b was the one who wanted revenge not jugram he is probably happy because yhwach killed his uncle who assaultted him jugram is just tagging along with bazz-b because they are friends.when yhwach told jugram he needs him jugram first time felt needed in his life Even bazz b thought jugram is week and a nuisance but kept him around because they were friends
5:12 without either of us saying it , WE decoded to kill yhwach, jugram never said that, bazzb asssumed it, jugo only stucked because they are freinds. Yhwach attack while devastating for bazzb, it was like blessing for jugo because it freed him from his uncle.
16:48 that is an interesting question. As far as we can tell, they can be of any race since all the quincies that live in the shadows of Soul Society (SoulS) are referred in as souls, like any thriving beign of SoulS. They could have once been humans while others never were. Remember how Uryu was said to be special? I think it goes in the lines of : beign the very last quincy of lineage beign still alive and human. Otherwise, the term can be as vast as : from beign a sentient part of Adnyeus ( gremmy?, mimihagi, pernida and others ) to beign in the bloodline of Adnyeus in some way ( I do not know how) or to just be wearing artifacts that enables the reishi manipulation even if not harnessing the reishi manipulation ( like Ebern could be called an Arrancar-Quincy or just like Uryu when he lost his powers after the Letz Stil and used an artifact/bow ).
What's interesting to me about the world Kubo created is that Quincey's and Shinigami can be good/ bad/ gray zone based on whoever's perspective and what we the viewer know and understand. On the surface of course anyone could simply say Quincey's are bad because they mascaraed the Shinigami and vice versa. However with added context, lore, and more Kubo seems to be dancing within that beautiful gray zone between the basic perceived definitions of what a good and bad protagonist/ antagonist usually are. Someone made a excellent joke about how the Shinigami are just basically villains facing horrible villains versus more detestable villains vs lowest of the low villains (or something like that). Kubo is top tier in art, poetry, and story telling!
Somewhere during those ten edits you lost part of the video feed. The screen blacks out from 11:55 to 14:10 then again from 16:24 to 16:45, and 19:10 to 19:15 and finally from 19:29 to 21:42. Next week we do get two episodes! And you're correct to expect the ending quote means Haschwalth should be involved in at least episode 39 (in some capacity) ... They're all essentially human, but in different states and modified by different conditions. The World of the Living is populated by human souls animated by human spirits. Quincy are living humans who have a portion of Yhwach's power within them (which he gets back when they die). This makes them antithetical to Hollows but grants them the ability to draw reishi from the environment to use as their own power. Fullbringers are living humans who have superhuman powers as a result of either their mothers being attacked by hollows when they were pregnant (as per the manga) or because they possess a fragment of the Soul King within their souls (as per the light novel "Can't Fear Your Own World"). When ordinary humans die their human souls separate from their bodies and they become "Plusses" or (positive) spirits. If they receive soul burial (Konso) from a Soul Reaper then they can pass over into the Soul Society. If that doesn't happen soon enough then those souls become "negative" and they turn into Hollows with an insatable hunger for to devour other souls. Even Hollows are still human deep down, as when a hollow is "purified" by a Soul Reaper then their soul finally goes to Soul Society... unless they were evil when they were alive. Those few human souls are permanently fouled and can't be reintegrated into the cycle of rebirth, so they're damned to Hell forever (we hope). When those human souls finally get to Soul Society they exist for an indeterminate time, aging slowly and eventually dying again. The reishi that makes up each soul is reabsorbed by the Soul Society itself where it eventually forms new human souls to be reborn, usually in the Living World, but occasionally back into Soul Society (where they're called "pure souls"). Even Komamura's Wolf Clan was originally human until they were cursed with bestial form for violent acts committed in their human lifetime (not bad enough for Hell apparently). Even zanpakuto spirits have a human element since the asauchi is formed from the souls of dead Soul Reapers. I really enjoy your enthusiasm for character interactions and relationships! You see the parallels and contrasts between Jugram and Uryu (even their Schrifts seem opposed). Yhwach killed Bazz's parents and left him a homeless refugee. In contrast Jugram was already an orphan, living with his (it's heavily implied) abusive uncle. Yhwach unintentionally also killed Jugram's uncle freeing him from a life of endless suffering. The orphans remained together for five years training their skills, Bazz promising vengeance on Yhwach. But Jugram had no grudge against Yhwach. And when the Quincy King rode right up to the boy 1,000 years ago and basically adopted him, Jugo "betrayed" the "revenge pact" Jugo had made for both of them. I always wondered what would have happened if Bazz-B had gotten to know Uryu better and realized that Yhwach had killed his mother with Auswahlen. how might things have played out if Bazz aproached Uryu with the same proposition? But Bazz was hostile to the outsider and there was never any chance for it (or any inclination toward comradery on either if their parts). Yes, the flashback of Bazz-B and Haschwalth takes place before the first Quincy invasion over 1000 years ago and before Ichibe used the Left Arm of the Soul King (who we now know is Pernida) to seal the power of Yhwach's "Almighty" ability. There isn't much evidence so far that any of the other current Sternritters were around back then. Lille Barro said he was the first Sternritter to be granted a Schrift by Yhwach, but none of the newly-created Sternritter army was known to have one at that time. So most of the Sternritters we've seen can be much younger than Bazz and Jugo.
Those black screens were intentional because they were just voice recordings. Its just me talking post reaction recording so no videos lolll 😅 Guess it wasn’t obvious enough But thank u for the more in depth explanation on the quinces/humans thing. that was something i was very confused about ahhahha It’s actually kinda crazy how old Jugram and Bazz B are!
Remember when in Hueco Mundo Castle , while Aizen exerts his spiritual preassure on Grimmjow, the other Espadas are not affected. This means that spiritual preassure can be controlled and directed to one person and not affected by other around the area.
Oh yes that’s interesting! So do you think that Jugram here was not being affected by Yuha simply because Yuha was not directing it at him or do you think it could also be interpreted that Jugram is just immune since they share the same power?
@sakinah06 in the episode u can see yhwach soldier also not affected by his spiritual preassure . I think yhwach just only pointed his spritual preassure to buzz b and the other vilagers. And one more thing that yhwach said Jugram power same as yhwach power is to share power. It is more like Quincy who possesses the ability to "impart".
🤨"Son, what did I tell you about leaving your sword in my chest? Don't make me put my arms and legs on and come out there! Now go to your Wahrwelt and think about what you've done. And there'll be no more Auswahlen for you tonight!"
yeah yhwach is a top-tier villain. alot of ppl see him as super one-dimensional, but don't really read into the deeper themes of the character. yhwach >>> aizen all day.
15:06 Quincys are stated to be "spiritually aware humans" BUT it's really confusing because Arrancars can become Quincys. Heck even BG9, a robot is a Quincy. So I just settled with, anything that has Yhwach's blood is a Quincy. The thing is, Pernida and Gerard are Quincy themselves without Yhwach's blood therefore it's pretty safe to assume Soul King is a Quincy. That's why its pretty hard to call Quincys "humans".
![I.N "HALLUCINATION" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n5B5q1Hwt_U/mqdefault.jpg)
You’re right about the Uryu & Haschwalth parallel. Fun fact, Uryu's birthday is one day after Haschwalth and Ichigo's birthday is one day after Bazz
True
their birthday you mean right, cause they're hundreds of years older 😂
@@sunekuro Minor spelling mistake 🤣
omg that’s a really cool fact 😳
Yet another masterpiece delivered by the studio this week, the friend saga was and will always be a proof of Kubo's genius writing, not only adding tons of lore but also developing some of the best characters in this Arc!
Your edited analysis after rewatching is so brilliant. As a manga reader as much as anime watcher, I never thought about those points you brought. And they are very interesting and plausible.
omg! thank u!! very happy my discussion evoked some thought haha sometimes i feel like i’m just yapping 🤣
15:09 The Quincies are in fact human and were human in this flashback as well, but after Yhwach's defeat by Yamamoto they retreated into the Wandenreich which exists within Soul Society. In order to exist within Soul Society, they would have had to convert themselves into Reishi and spiritual beings like the shinigami similar to what Ichigo and his friends did in the Soul Society Arc. This, and the fact that Quincies thrive on reishi, is the most reasonable explanation I can think of for their longetivity. This obviously doesn't apply to the Quincies like Masaki and the Ishida family who live as humans do in the Living World.
At first they were stated to be like that but let's be honest, in TYBW they're not.
Arrancar Quincys, BG9, Pernida, Gerard, and Yhwach himself. Even Urahara's statements also indicates they're seperate from humans.
@@xaxally Arrancars are debatable imo. It's hard to tell if Asguiaro gathered Reishi by his own ability given to Yhwach or if the star he was given allowed him to do it. We also know too little about BG9 to make an assumption of what he is.
Gerard and Pernida is interesting though given how little we know about them apart that they're Soul King parts. Askin said they ahd their powers before Yhwach but he did link his soul with theirs in Auswahlen so they're already under his power. I'm also curious if Gerard and Pernida are physical embodiments or if they were humans who hosted the Soul King parts like Ukitake did.
I think most Quincies are still a special kind of human similar to how Fullbringers are still humans, and the above-listed are exceptions to the rule. The more power that Yhwach gives them however, the less human they become and turn into something else entirely. It's why Schrifts give them superhuman ablities and someone like Lille started out as human but became a new creature in his Volstandigs.
Also, take note that Jugram's uncle is abusing him. Yhwach kinda saved Jugram from his abusive uncle. So I think he was never really on board with Bazz's plan to kill Yhwach. He was just tagging along because Bazz's practically adopted him.
That ties to his power, ones misfortune is anothers fortune
Friend might be a top 3 episode of the cour for me.
What I love about the Friend Saga is that you can really see the perspective of things from both sides; Jugram is loyal to Yhwach because Yhwach killed his *very* abusive uncle inadvertently-which Jugram may see as a stroke of good fortune.
While Bazz-B hates Yhwach because Yhwach killed everyone he knew and razed his castle to the ground.
From the choreography, music, atmosphere, etc. it is undoubtedly one of the best episodes of the cour for me.
Young Jugram is voiced by Armin’s voice actor and The commander with the hat is voiced by Levi’s voice actor. Which makes it even funnier when the commander scolded young Jugram since it’s basically Levi scolding Armin.😂😂
Thanks! Didn't make that connection until you pointed it out. They must be thinking "hey, this seems familiar.."
So glad you actually take the time to discuss the character depths and draw parallels instead of the usual "So yeah, they were friends now they enemies damn!" Love seeing you draw conclusions as to where these relationships might take us in the anime.
I love the Jugram and Bazz dynamic in the flashback. Jugram is on the search for feelings of “worth” which is mainly why he stuck with Bazz as Jugram wanted to feel useful. However, he was just being strung along by Bazz in the search for revenge so when Yhwach - his unintentional savior - said that he needed Jugram, Jugram found an even greater sense of worth than what he got from Bazz.
in Cour 2 episode 1, there's a hint that this 2 was a besties, If you remember Bazz was the one who's the most disappointed when Yuha choose Uryu Over Jugram .
i think i remember that!
i think i also remember bazz b actually calling jugram jugo and was confused about the nickname? honestly pretty cool hint!!
@@sakinah06 yes he called him Jugo that time . And he almost pick a fight once again but Askin interrupts them 😂
The sword used to kill Bazz was from his own house, the last words from Jugo to him were his full name, therefore Haschwalt severing their ties completely
11:00 you was shooketh
There probably were groups of quincies who weren't agree with Yhwch or even against him. They could be used by Soul Society in the war. So Yhwch was unifying all quincies under his wing to go at war.
2:03 bazz b burned the sternritter symbol so that they can fight as friends and not sternritters because jugram denied fighting before and excused that sternritter infighting is not allowed. They fought as friends
Lessgo kinahh❤ Was waiting for your reaction
🙂↕️🙂↕️
The B on Bazz B was Balls 🥶
And yup, Hubert Voice was Hiroshi Kamiya ( Levi ) while Young Jugo and Bazz was Marina Inoue ( Armin ) and Chiaki Kobayashi ( Mash )
Also the backstory looks like a shiganshina ambiance vibes
15:09 You can count them as different. Since Urahara stated they're the opposite of Shinigamis. You could say Shingamis are dead spiritual beings and Quincys are living spiritual beings.
i still love aizen, there's just much more depth to yhwach. i also just love how yhwach does not give a shit😂 aizen will monologue all day about plans and troll ppl, while yhwach is more of an "actions speak louder than words" kinda villain
18:42 No one knows where it's going to end.
Well, I sure hope at least Tite Kubo knows! Otherwise we might be waiting a while for cour 4...
first of all bazz-b was the one who wanted revenge not jugram he is probably happy because yhwach killed his uncle who assaultted him jugram is just tagging along with bazz-b because they are friends.when yhwach told jugram he needs him jugram first time felt needed in his life
Even bazz b thought jugram is week and a nuisance but kept him around because they were friends
Thanks for this correction! definitely adds more thought to jugram and how he feels about yuha
5:12 without either of us saying it , WE decoded to kill yhwach, jugram never said that, bazzb asssumed it, jugo only stucked because they are freinds. Yhwach attack while devastating for bazzb, it was like blessing for jugo because it freed him from his uncle.
Quincy Empress Kinah would never cull us. We are too fucking awesome in the Wandenreich.
damn nice reaction kinah
16:48 that is an interesting question. As far as we can tell, they can be of any race since all the quincies that live in the shadows of Soul Society (SoulS) are referred in as souls, like any thriving beign of SoulS. They could have once been humans while others never were.
Remember how Uryu was said to be special? I think it goes in the lines of : beign the very last quincy of lineage beign still alive and human.
Otherwise, the term can be as vast as : from beign a sentient part of Adnyeus ( gremmy?, mimihagi, pernida and others ) to beign in the bloodline of Adnyeus in some way ( I do not know how) or to just be wearing artifacts that enables the reishi manipulation even if not harnessing the reishi manipulation ( like Ebern could be called an Arrancar-Quincy or just like Uryu when he lost his powers after the Letz Stil and used an artifact/bow ).
You make a good point! I guess they could be a mix of any race/species.
What's interesting to me about the world Kubo created is that Quincey's and Shinigami can be good/ bad/ gray zone based on whoever's perspective and what we the viewer know and understand. On the surface of course anyone could simply say Quincey's are bad because they mascaraed the Shinigami and vice versa. However with added context, lore, and more Kubo seems to be dancing within that beautiful gray zone between the basic perceived definitions of what a good and bad protagonist/ antagonist usually are. Someone made a excellent joke about how the Shinigami are just basically villains facing horrible villains versus more detestable villains vs lowest of the low villains (or something like that). Kubo is top tier in art, poetry, and story telling!
Absolutely agree! love how he plays with the grey area in this show.
Somewhere during those ten edits you lost part of the video feed. The screen blacks out from 11:55 to 14:10 then again from 16:24 to 16:45, and 19:10 to 19:15 and finally from 19:29 to 21:42.
Next week we do get two episodes! And you're correct to expect the ending quote means Haschwalth should be involved in at least episode 39 (in some capacity) ...
They're all essentially human, but in different states and modified by different conditions.
The World of the Living is populated by human souls animated by human spirits. Quincy are living humans who have a portion of Yhwach's power within them (which he gets back when they die). This makes them antithetical to Hollows but grants them the ability to draw reishi from the environment to use as their own power. Fullbringers are living humans who have superhuman powers as a result of either their mothers being attacked by hollows when they were pregnant (as per the manga) or because they possess a fragment of the Soul King within their souls (as per the light novel "Can't Fear Your Own World"). When ordinary humans die their human souls separate from their bodies and they become "Plusses" or (positive) spirits. If they receive soul burial (Konso) from a Soul Reaper then they can pass over into the Soul Society. If that doesn't happen soon enough then those souls become "negative" and they turn into Hollows with an insatable hunger for to devour other souls. Even Hollows are still human deep down, as when a hollow is "purified" by a Soul Reaper then their soul finally goes to Soul Society... unless they were evil when they were alive. Those few human souls are permanently fouled and can't be reintegrated into the cycle of rebirth, so they're damned to Hell forever (we hope). When those human souls finally get to Soul Society they exist for an indeterminate time, aging slowly and eventually dying again. The reishi that makes up each soul is reabsorbed by the Soul Society itself where it eventually forms new human souls to be reborn, usually in the Living World, but occasionally back into Soul Society (where they're called "pure souls"). Even Komamura's Wolf Clan was originally human until they were cursed with bestial form for violent acts committed in their human lifetime (not bad enough for Hell apparently). Even zanpakuto spirits have a human element since the asauchi is formed from the souls of dead Soul Reapers.
I really enjoy your enthusiasm for character interactions and relationships! You see the parallels and contrasts between Jugram and Uryu (even their Schrifts seem opposed). Yhwach killed Bazz's parents and left him a homeless refugee. In contrast Jugram was already an orphan, living with his (it's heavily implied) abusive uncle. Yhwach unintentionally also killed Jugram's uncle freeing him from a life of endless suffering. The orphans remained together for five years training their skills, Bazz promising vengeance on Yhwach. But Jugram had no grudge against Yhwach. And when the Quincy King rode right up to the boy 1,000 years ago and basically adopted him, Jugo "betrayed" the "revenge pact" Jugo had made for both of them. I always wondered what would have happened if Bazz-B had gotten to know Uryu better and realized that Yhwach had killed his mother with Auswahlen. how might things have played out if Bazz aproached Uryu with the same proposition? But Bazz was hostile to the outsider and there was never any chance for it (or any inclination toward comradery on either if their parts).
Yes, the flashback of Bazz-B and Haschwalth takes place before the first Quincy invasion over 1000 years ago and before Ichibe used the Left Arm of the Soul King (who we now know is Pernida) to seal the power of Yhwach's "Almighty" ability. There isn't much evidence so far that any of the other current Sternritters were around back then. Lille Barro said he was the first Sternritter to be granted a Schrift by Yhwach, but none of the newly-created Sternritter army was known to have one at that time. So most of the Sternritters we've seen can be much younger than Bazz and Jugo.
Those black screens were intentional because they were just voice recordings. Its just me talking post reaction recording so no videos lolll 😅 Guess it wasn’t obvious enough
But thank u for the more in depth explanation on the quinces/humans thing. that was something i was very confused about ahhahha
It’s actually kinda crazy how old Jugram and Bazz B are!
Remember when in Hueco Mundo Castle , while Aizen exerts his spiritual preassure on Grimmjow, the other Espadas are not affected. This means that spiritual preassure can be controlled and directed to one person and not affected by other around the area.
Oh yes that’s interesting!
So do you think that Jugram here was not being affected by Yuha simply because Yuha was not directing it at him or do you think it could also be interpreted that Jugram is just immune since they share the same power?
@sakinah06 in the episode u can see yhwach soldier also not affected by his spiritual preassure . I think yhwach just only pointed his spritual preassure to buzz b and the other vilagers. And one more thing that yhwach said Jugram power same as yhwach power is to share power. It is more like Quincy who possesses the ability to "impart".
oh wait yeah the soldiers not being affected too is a good point! ahaha
Yeah his uncle was on some diddy shit
Juhas parents need to have a serious talk with him. His behaviour is NOT OK!
🤨"Son, what did I tell you about leaving your sword in my chest? Don't make me put my arms and legs on and come out there! Now go to your Wahrwelt and think about what you've done. And there'll be no more Auswahlen for you tonight!"
@@megalictis9002 :D
Quincys are not humans. They are Yhwach children. They are just closely related to human.
They are spiritually aware humans as per the wiki. And since there can be half quincies they are still human I'd say
Shes gonna cry
Jugram Uncle was a PoS person
yeah yhwach is a top-tier villain. alot of ppl see him as super one-dimensional, but don't really read into the deeper themes of the character. yhwach >>> aizen all day.
lol you're in the minority fo sure😂
@@ahmadjohan6571fo sure fo sure
Bazz-b 😢
15:06 Quincys are stated to be "spiritually aware humans" BUT it's really confusing because Arrancars can become Quincys. Heck even BG9, a robot is a Quincy. So I just settled with, anything that has Yhwach's blood is a Quincy. The thing is, Pernida and Gerard are Quincy themselves without Yhwach's blood therefore it's pretty safe to assume Soul King is a Quincy. That's why its pretty hard to call Quincys "humans".
She is still not ready for cour 4
First Griffith, now poor Jugram. Our light hair, blue eyed boys don’t fair well against perverts.