Glad to see you doing stuff on the oval side, Dave. I feel like so many European racers look down on it, both in sim and in the real world. I'm a big road racing guy, but NASCAR represents some of the closest, most dynamic racing on the planet. Simple formula, yes. But the talent levels, technical constraints, the consistency required, the reacecraft and strategy needed... all off the charts. Good luck as you progress, sir!
I was that european driver until I tried myself 😂 And from the ARCA in iRacing it was the most tense,stresfull and rewarding in a same time race ever. I don't think Im that focused anywhere else then doing ovals in iRacing 😂
@@swider80tvgive dirt ovals a try! Same racing but sideways! It’s a blast! I grew up watching NASCAR so it’s my first love. Don’t get me wrong I love F1, IMSA etc, but there’s just something about banging doors at Bristol that gets the blood pumping. But the heart and soul of America are the local short tracks. On the dirt is where it was born. That and running moonshine. Great history behind how NASCAR became what it is. To see a race is person is an experience. 43 going by at once makes your organs vibrate. Making me want to race ovals again. Dang it lol
Most people who don't watch the sport don't realize it but NASCAR is a finesse form of motorsport, you don't muscle the cars around the track but more or less guide it where it wants to go and the drivers job is to manage the tires and engine and brakes along the way and just kind of hope it works out in the end. Setup knowledge is way more important than road racing because they're not dictated much by driver preference but by what the aero and mechanical requirements are for the car to go fast as well.
@@davecamyt Someone said those trucks have a wedge setting. If this is adjustable on track, the same as weight jacker in the Indy cars (oval only) that's massive. It would mean you can adjust tightness/loseness on the fly, for clean/dirty air and tire condition.
Impressive without much practice. You were hit and miss with 3 and 4. When you were taking the lower line late in the run, you were blipping the throttle on/off, then picking it up to accelerate. Sure you know already, that only causes the nose to come up briefly causing more understeer. When you took a slightly higher line, you were letting the truck roll a bit further through the center, then picking the throttle up a lot better and didn't slide the tires and scrub speed. Watch the difference on laps 73-75. Rooting for ya Dave!
Overall, very solid! As a recent race winner on this track starting 17th with a best lap time of 31.046, I have a few recommendations. When entering turns 1 and 2, don't hit the brakes; you can go full throttle on fresh tires to gain a momentum boost down the back straight if you need to overtake. This strategy does wear out the tires but can be useful for passing someone. Focus on maintaining a wide line and cutting down to the apron/white line with half throttle to keep up the momentum. Then, full throttle as you exit, allowing the truck to naturally slide up to the wall with minimal steering input. Turns 3 and 4 are very tricky and took me a long time to master. I didn't brake at all during the race (unless avoiding contact). I would partially let off the throttle entering the corner, using the last sticker on the outside wall as my marker. Then, I would casually steer the truck toward the apron and, once it hooked up, go full throttle out, letting it naturally slide up to the wall and run to the line. I managed to run 40 laps on the same set, towards the end everyone was fulling off but I was able to stay in it a little longer and get some passes done. The key with the new truck model is maintaining clean air in the corners and preserving momentum. Hopes this help mate! Hope to see you in a lobby soon. Keep up the ovals, absolutely loving it.
As your tires fade you can run a higher line to maximize momentum. Add a round of track bar to the right rear and help you rotate better. Adjust the ride height down. Play with tire pressure before making significant changes to set up. Lots of little things that can be done. Loving the oval stuff! Give dirt oval a try! That’s some intense racing!
You want clean air in the corners. Try to keep the left front clear in the corners…helps with the tire wear also. Lower line is best on the tires. Loving the red, white and blue. Good luck bro
With the new aero update you want the right side of the truck in clean air now. The right side generates more side force in the corners after the update.
If u want to race ovals the xfinty car is the most fun. And is the most (drivers car). Save tire !!!! Ovals are a blast just takes a little time and you will be fine my friend !!!
Great first Crack at a new track/car combo on the ovals Dave. Keep up the great work. Your learning quickly. Once you start getting more comfortable with the cars, try some side drafting on the bigger tracks like these. If you can get beside someone down the straight if you get tight to them you will slow them down and allow you to make the pass easier. Keep searching around. Finding the lines that work best for you and your car.
Good racing, Dave! HAHAHA, Casey Ryback. That's Steven Segall's charachter's name in the movie, Under Seige. Oval racing can be a ton of fun, but it can also be nightmare. I think there are many iRacers who may be in the lower ranks who just don't take it seriously enough, turning it into a demolition derby and think nothing of it.
It’s awesome to see you do Ovals. Watch the road stuff but as an oval driver love to see it. I used to hate ovals but it takes just a different driving skill and style to be successful. Love watching you learn it
One good note, if they are running the high line, keep them pinned up there. If you don't your corner entry is compromised and you have lift substantially longer
Good racing Dave. You’re learning that oval racing can be quite difficult. Yes, you need to get comfortable with letting the rear end step out a little. If you get comfortable & good at controlling it, that can make you stronger at the end of a stint/race when the tires start to wear a bit and the cars get oversteery. Also, do some practice laps and try to minimize time off the throttle. Try dropping to 75% or 50% throttle at corner entry. Dropping the throttle to 0 really kills your momentum. Watch the video and you can watch yourself losing ground to the guy in front because he’s entering the corner at part throttle and you’re completely out of it. Over an 80 lap race, that will add up.
Dave great fun watching you as usual. My advice is do more practice laps for the track your gonna run on. Get to know which line is fast, which line is easier on tires and which line you can save til the last 5 laps to make things happen. Only time to really push is the last 5 laps. But keeping in contention til then without burning up the tires requires track knowledge, which comes from practice. Also you should learn more about wedge settings and track bar settings so you can tweak the set up to help your driving style. I would recommend watching tommy brandon on you tube. He has alot of good videos that could help you quite a bit. Keep on it Dave, i see a win in the future in the ovals👍
Can't wait to see how it goes from here! the competition is definitely a step up in the trucks from ARCA imo. The trucks are the most slidy in my experience over any of the NASCAR's. The progress from ARCA definitely shows!
Try not letting off all the way going into the turns, let up half way or slightly more then roll back in as grip allows. Works on most 1.5 mile tracks. Good luck! 🏁
Thanks for your comment. I'm also a foreigner (Oz) trying to get the hang of the finer points of turning left. I know that saving the front right is everything and yet I'd been watching Dave chop his throttle on entry and wonder how does that help? I've been doing alright but I gently back off the throttle on corner entry. I was thinking maybe I'd missed something basic and was starting to doubt my own approach. But what you said cleared things up in my mind. Cheers most sincerely.
Just a quick tip. For ovals and nascar as a whole, when on the back striaghtways you need to be door to door with the cars outside going into the corner. You’re gonna get abused going into a corner so shallow!!! Try to keep the same arc you use regularly while under them. Sure you know but just a heads up for anyone!!!
Hey Dave. Doc from across the pond again. (If you remember Mate, not dude). You are a great racer. In no time you'll be competing with us in the Cup cars.
Dave. You have managed to motivate me to do the same with my irating. It's just hard being a family man, I only have time to myself between 4 and 6 in the morning and there isn't much oval racing going on then.
@davecamm I am 8 hrs behind you. (I think) so at 4am here should be roughly noon there. And because I am up at that time I'll try and race with you. Only need 6 to make a official race.
Howdy??? That is an old saying. Just go with "What's up boys and girls!". Anyways, that's for getting into oval racing. It's more fun than I would have thought and the side by side racing can't be beat.
I know exactly how you will get better. 1 and 2 you did pretty good but 3 and 4 you need to wait 1 second longer to get back on the gas, early throttle is making you push center off. My suggestion is to run it in 3 a little deeper and lift for 1 second longer. So you can hook the bottom center off.
Good luck. If the gear ratio is not suited to the track, NASCAR trucks tend to move towards the back Hope you are #22 Yes in NASCAR you can break the slipstream draft and send the car in front around but yes. You touch a car. You cause accidents.
The trucks r fun to drive doing a 3k split on a iracing setup dosnt sound like it would end well I would look at eathier ryco or conti for a setup that’s competitive.
Yup, gotta get those driver excuses out of the way at the start. Hahaha. You're a better man than me Dave. I can never seem to drive the trucks properly. Having fun watching your oval journey.
I do it all the time but trying to learn not to. But you were side by side with Lee for 15laps or something in the last stint? A bit of bumo drafting and working together night have got you a few more places. Especially if it wasn't an open setup
I was going to say the same thing, from my lowly position on the ovals. I'm very safe but not very racey (A rating with ~1.2 iR) and yeah, when you're out of the draft of the cars in front don't fight the guy near you, work together to catch up. The draft is strong in the trucks, especially with the new model. Everything everyone else has said about searching for lines and being earlier or later on/off the throttle is probably great advice but right now above my pay grade :) The low hanging fruit is drafting
Your did very well, but try dropping down to around 1400 IR and see how it goes! I thought this was a cruel hoax until after 2nd caution. Although he finally did get ahead of you Lee is typical of what I have to deal with but usually they wreck you. I kow racing is racing but most of the time I find if you are faster than me, I'll let you go rather than slow both of us down. That normally doesn't seem to apply at the 1400 level. But good job.
I always skip the talking at the start because i hate spoilers about the race in about to watch But what is up with the 2 accounts for racing? I understand needing a second account to record the extra view (or do you use the post race recording for that) but you race both
Glad to see you doing stuff on the oval side, Dave. I feel like so many European racers look down on it, both in sim and in the real world. I'm a big road racing guy, but NASCAR represents some of the closest, most dynamic racing on the planet. Simple formula, yes. But the talent levels, technical constraints, the consistency required, the reacecraft and strategy needed... all off the charts. Good luck as you progress, sir!
I was that european driver until I tried myself 😂 And from the ARCA in iRacing it was the most tense,stresfull and rewarding in a same time race ever. I don't think Im that focused anywhere else then doing ovals in iRacing 😂
@@swider80tv I agree on the Arca, its intense. Getting into the ovals this season.
@@swider80tvgive dirt ovals a try! Same racing but sideways! It’s a blast! I grew up watching NASCAR so it’s my first love. Don’t get me wrong I love F1, IMSA etc, but there’s just something about banging doors at Bristol that gets the blood pumping. But the heart and soul of America are the local short tracks. On the dirt is where it was born. That and running moonshine. Great history behind how NASCAR became what it is. To see a race is person is an experience. 43 going by at once makes your organs vibrate. Making me want to race ovals again. Dang it lol
Most people who don't watch the sport don't realize it but NASCAR is a finesse form of motorsport, you don't muscle the cars around the track but more or less guide it where it wants to go and the drivers job is to manage the tires and engine and brakes along the way and just kind of hope it works out in the end. Setup knowledge is way more important than road racing because they're not dictated much by driver preference but by what the aero and mechanical requirements are for the car to go fast as well.
It was great racing with you in this race, and the chat afterwards Dave. Keep up the great work and Im enjoying you embarking into the oval side👍🏼
Thank you mate. 😁
Rockin the American Flag paint scheme as well. Embracing the FULL culture of oval racing. 🎉
Thanks to all who posted solid gold insider tips for newbs here. Dunno if Dave read them all. but I did. 😎
Yep I'm reading them all 😁
@@davecamyt Someone said those trucks have a wedge setting. If this is adjustable on track, the same as weight jacker in the Indy cars (oval only) that's massive. It would mean you can adjust tightness/loseness on the fly, for clean/dirty air and tire condition.
loving the oval stuff, really enjoyable watching the improvement's race by race!
Dave your positive coaching and example is invaluable to the community thank you so much
That's very kind of you, thank you Sir 😁
Impressive without much practice. You were hit and miss with 3 and 4. When you were taking the lower line late in the run, you were blipping the throttle on/off, then picking it up to accelerate. Sure you know already, that only causes the nose to come up briefly causing more understeer. When you took a slightly higher line, you were letting the truck roll a bit further through the center, then picking the throttle up a lot better and didn't slide the tires and scrub speed. Watch the difference on laps 73-75. Rooting for ya Dave!
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Overall, very solid! As a recent race winner on this track starting 17th with a best lap time of 31.046, I have a few recommendations. When entering turns 1 and 2, don't hit the brakes; you can go full throttle on fresh tires to gain a momentum boost down the back straight if you need to overtake. This strategy does wear out the tires but can be useful for passing someone. Focus on maintaining a wide line and cutting down to the apron/white line with half throttle to keep up the momentum. Then, full throttle as you exit, allowing the truck to naturally slide up to the wall with minimal steering input.
Turns 3 and 4 are very tricky and took me a long time to master. I didn't brake at all during the race (unless avoiding contact). I would partially let off the throttle entering the corner, using the last sticker on the outside wall as my marker. Then, I would casually steer the truck toward the apron and, once it hooked up, go full throttle out, letting it naturally slide up to the wall and run to the line.
I managed to run 40 laps on the same set, towards the end everyone was fulling off but I was able to stay in it a little longer and get some passes done.
The key with the new truck model is maintaining clean air in the corners and preserving momentum.
Hopes this help mate! Hope to see you in a lobby soon. Keep up the ovals, absolutely loving it.
As your tires fade you can run a higher line to maximize momentum. Add a round of track bar to the right rear and help you rotate better. Adjust the ride height down. Play with tire pressure before making significant changes to set up. Lots of little things that can be done. Loving the oval stuff! Give dirt oval a try! That’s some intense racing!
You want clean air in the corners. Try to keep the left front clear in the corners…helps with the tire wear also. Lower line is best on the tires. Loving the red, white and blue. Good luck bro
With the new aero update you want the right side of the truck in clean air now. The right side generates more side force in the corners after the update.
If u want to race ovals the xfinty car is the most fun. And is the most (drivers car). Save tire !!!! Ovals are a blast just takes a little time and you will be fine my friend !!!
Great first Crack at a new track/car combo on the ovals Dave. Keep up the great work. Your learning quickly. Once you start getting more comfortable with the cars, try some side drafting on the bigger tracks like these. If you can get beside someone down the straight if you get tight to them you will slow them down and allow you to make the pass easier. Keep searching around. Finding the lines that work best for you and your car.
Love to see you taking on ovals Dave. Would really like to see you tackle and IndyCar oval race once you hit B Class!
It's very smart at your end to drive other classes. You will bring more audiences to your channel. Keep up the good work
Good racing, Dave! HAHAHA, Casey Ryback. That's Steven Segall's charachter's name in the movie, Under Seige. Oval racing can be a ton of fun, but it can also be nightmare. I think there are many iRacers who may be in the lower ranks who just don't take it seriously enough, turning it into a demolition derby and think nothing of it.
It’s awesome to see you do Ovals. Watch the road stuff but as an oval driver love to see it. I used to hate ovals but it takes just a different driving skill and style to be successful. Love watching you learn it
One good note, if they are running the high line, keep them pinned up there. If you don't your corner entry is compromised and you have lift substantially longer
Good racing Dave. You’re learning that oval racing can be quite difficult.
Yes, you need to get comfortable with letting the rear end step out a little. If you get comfortable & good at controlling it, that can make you stronger at the end of a stint/race when the tires start to wear a bit and the cars get oversteery.
Also, do some practice laps and try to minimize time off the throttle. Try dropping to 75% or 50% throttle at corner entry. Dropping the throttle to 0 really kills your momentum. Watch the video and you can watch yourself losing ground to the guy in front because he’s entering the corner at part throttle and you’re completely out of it. Over an 80 lap race, that will add up.
1 hour vid on friday, thank you Dave !!
Same thing happened to me Dave, I realized after everyone was flying by. We live and we learn 8)
There's a whole new art to driving left. I'm loving ovals at the moment, so frickin hard. Hope all is well mate.
Good to see you mate 😁
Dave great fun watching you as usual. My advice is do more practice laps for the track your gonna run on. Get to know which line is fast, which line is easier on tires and which line you can save til the last 5 laps to make things happen. Only time to really push is the last 5 laps. But keeping in contention til then without burning up the tires requires track knowledge, which comes from practice. Also you should learn more about wedge settings and track bar settings so you can tweak the set up to help your driving style. I would recommend watching tommy brandon on you tube. He has alot of good videos that could help you quite a bit. Keep on it Dave, i see a win in the future in the ovals👍
Can't wait to see how it goes from here! the competition is definitely a step up in the trucks from ARCA imo. The trucks are the most slidy in my experience over any of the NASCAR's. The progress from ARCA definitely shows!
You have inspired me to try oval this season. Should be interesting to say the least.
youre definitely getting better at oval. Keep it up man.
Try not letting off all the way going into the turns, let up half way or slightly more then roll back in as grip allows. Works on most 1.5 mile tracks. Good luck! 🏁
Thanks for your comment. I'm also a foreigner (Oz) trying to get the hang of the finer points of turning left. I know that saving the front right is everything and yet I'd been watching Dave chop his throttle on entry and wonder how does that help? I've been doing alright but I gently back off the throttle on corner entry. I was thinking maybe I'd missed something basic and was starting to doubt my own approach. But what you said cleared things up in my mind. Cheers most sincerely.
editing the cause of the cautions in mid race is great!
Just a quick tip. For ovals and nascar as a whole, when on the back striaghtways you need to be door to door with the cars outside going into the corner. You’re gonna get abused going into a corner so shallow!!! Try to keep the same arc you use regularly while under them. Sure you know but just a heads up for anyone!!!
Never thought I'd see you run my home track lol
Don't say everyone, gotta say it like "Howdy ya'll!"
Love the ovals dave!
Sunday is a NIS race at Sonoma, you should give it a shot. It’s a pretty fun track/car combo
Since you're getting into oval I highly recommend NiS series. Loads of fun!
Hey Dave. Doc from across the pond again. (If you remember Mate, not dude). You are a great racer. In no time you'll be competing with us in the Cup cars.
Sooooooooo happy to see you doing some NASCAR stuff RAH 🦅 hahaha. Hope to see you do many many more!!!
Dave. You have managed to motivate me to do the same with my irating. It's just hard being a family man, I only have time to myself between 4 and 6 in the morning and there isn't much oval racing going on then.
Yes that's the issue I usually have. Not many race through the day in the UK 🫤
@davecamm I am 8 hrs behind you. (I think) so at 4am here should be roughly noon there. And because I am up at that time I'll try and race with you. Only need 6 to make a official race.
Howdy??? That is an old saying. Just go with "What's up boys and girls!". Anyways, that's for getting into oval racing. It's more fun than I would have thought and the side by side racing can't be beat.
It'd be nice to have some narration over the clip of what caused the yellow 😄 great vid dave
I know exactly how you will get better. 1 and 2 you did pretty good but 3 and 4 you need to wait 1 second longer to get back on the gas, early throttle is making you push center off. My suggestion is to run it in 3 a little deeper and lift for 1 second longer. So you can hook the bottom center off.
Haha, I get it, "pick up" the pace, because they're pick up trucks. You're such a jokester, Dave.
I only wish I were so quick witted 😁
@@davecamyt Love ya, big man, just act like it was on purpose, us clever bunch.
I hate I missed this race with you ...that all my group raced this week....u didn't t
Do bad brother...u would have been in my split
Enjoying the oval racing videos Dave!
Good luck. If the gear ratio is not suited to the track, NASCAR trucks tend to move towards the back
Hope you are #22
Yes in NASCAR you can break the slipstream draft and send the car in front around but yes. You touch a car. You cause accidents.
24:45 . Ninja hands 👏👏🐸
Love the oval videos Dave!
The trucks r fun to drive doing a 3k split on a iracing setup dosnt sound like it would end well I would look at eathier ryco or conti for a setup that’s competitive.
Yup, gotta get those driver excuses out of the way at the start. Hahaha. You're a better man than me Dave. I can never seem to drive the trucks properly. Having fun watching your oval journey.
Casey Ryback was under siege!
Dave if you ever come this way to watch a race in person let me know. I'm in North Carolina, the home of NASCAR.
I'd love to one day 😁
@@davecamyt And if you are ever in NC, I live 10 minutes from the beach at Oak Island and you and Julie are welcome to visit for a few days.
@stbrown3rd that's very kind, thank you 😁
Casey Ryback has to be a Smurf account.
If you know you're going to take a pit stop and get a new set of tires you could go harder on the tires knowing
you're going to change them
Would love to see you try out the super late model on a short track
I do it all the time but trying to learn not to. But you were side by side with Lee for 15laps or something in the last stint? A bit of bumo drafting and working together night have got you a few more places. Especially if it wasn't an open setup
I was going to say the same thing, from my lowly position on the ovals. I'm very safe but not very racey (A rating with ~1.2 iR) and yeah, when you're out of the draft of the cars in front don't fight the guy near you, work together to catch up. The draft is strong in the trucks, especially with the new model. Everything everyone else has said about searching for lines and being earlier or later on/off the throttle is probably great advice but right now above my pay grade :) The low hanging fruit is drafting
I believe the technical term is, "Howdy, y'all." And since we're at it, where's your 10-gallon? :)
as some who actually unironically says howdy. howdy dave
Every time I watch you do ovals I have to fire up nascar heat 5 on console. Sorry state of affairs really 😂
Dave, can I ask what lighting you use? I like how your walls are all lit up blue behind you.
@@tonygeddes9558 Yes I also wanted to ask this…
Howdy Dave!
The hardest part is just finishing without getting taken out by these Nascar mentality drivers!
Watching this is like watching paint dry :D (and I am a long time sub, just oval is not my thing I guess)
The trucks are slow, with the right corner entry you can nearly keep your foot in it.
running ir setups in opens?!?!?! you must also live dangerously my friend
Would be nice to know what vehicle you use on the ovals. Did you use a Ford dave?
Yes I did 👍
Your did very well, but try dropping down to around 1400 IR and see how it goes! I thought this was a cruel hoax until after 2nd caution. Although he finally did get ahead of you Lee is typical of what I have to deal with but usually they wreck you. I kow racing is racing but most of the time I find if you are faster than me, I'll let you go rather than slow both of us down. That normally doesn't seem to apply at the 1400 level. But good job.
Gotta put the hammer down and keep racin'!
Try, "Howdy ya'll" 😉
Trucks are defiitely less stable than the sudans. Nice job.
Whats the spotter voice pack or is it an app?
It's the JJ Spotter Pack. You can grab it from here 😁
www.dwarehouse.com/
no head starts, we wanna see the whole road
The iRacing setup is terrible for this track. Before and after thr update.
I always skip the talking at the start because i hate spoilers about the race in about to watch
But what is up with the 2 accounts for racing?
I understand needing a second account to record the extra view (or do you use the post race recording for that) but you race both
This is my original account. The other account was created to create content for iracing themselves, but I just kept racing on it.
Check out Team Conti for all your NASCAR setups. Great community and very fast!!