Rory Finds Out Luke and Lorelai Got Engaged | Gilmore Girls
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2024
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Season 6 Episode 2: Fight Face
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Because she had THE FACE! / What face? / THE RORY FACE! 😂 Gets me every time
It's ridiculous how Luke knocked the sense back into these two. They should know this.
Knocked?
@@lizziebkennedy7505 It is a common phrase they don't mean literally
"Gilmore Girls" music was sublime. Gotta love the use of the Pernice Brothers in the drive up
Pernice huh? I've always loved GG music but I never looked into it, perhaps I should. Thank you
Luke is just the best
Lorelai didn't tell Rory about their engagement, Rory skipped Lorelai's graduation that took her 18 years to get
Yes, and she never said she was never going to tell Rory about it.
Rory was 16. And she was truly sorry and ashamed of what she had done. Lorelei is what 35-37here? And she didn’t regret not telling her and held a grudge against her because Rory wasn’t living her life the way Lorelei thought she should.
First of all she asked Luke to marry her, he didn't do the asking and she only asked him after she had a big fight with her parents over them supporting Rory taking time off from Yale, then she saw Rory unpacking in the pool house. Think she didn't tell Rory cause she Rory would be against it.
@@dalewall3726 Rory would never be against lore marrying Luke. Lore was just being a bitch. She was upset that she was moving in with her parents.
@@Ambereigh Yeah, an unfortunate realization one has upon re-watching the series is that Lorelai is kind of a terrible person. Sometimes Rory is too, but not in this situation.
Luke was the best character on the show
He kind of wasn't, when he stormed out of the "wedding" party of Lorelei's parents and ghosted her for many days only because Lorelei's drunk Ex told some drunk bullshit.
He was the worse.
@@dalewall3726worst. Try to write in grammatically correct English.
@@anshevel that was a shitty moment (and choices of his) 4 sure
yep. and Emily
I agree with Luke, Lorelai was being so childish for not talking to Rory
Are you trying to pretend like rory was being mature
Luke was right to yell at Lorelai for him being in the middle, but before season 6, he didn't know anything about the long history of a complicated relationship between a parent and the child. Rory, was what? 19-20? She was legally an adult and not a baby anymore. If your child grows up to start tripping and, especially after you have done your job with them, the rest of the problems are on the child when they grown and gone. You can't manage the child's entire life when they get to be a certain age where they gotta get out on their own and figure it out. That's not how it works. If they out the house and legal and and in college or something. Then your due date is up just as much as their's. You handle the 17 in a half years, and that's it. That's your job. But when 18 hits, they're not babies anymore. Time for them to be grown and gone, because you did your part and provided every example in the book there is so that the child can know better when reaching adulthood. If you keep coddling them or they expect to be coddle, even as an adult, that's not helping them at all. They still wanna be babies and be coddled. Meaning they screwed up their own lives. Lorelai did a good job raising Rory. Rory just chose to be a brat. If she's not gonna speak to her daughter for the way she's been acting, that's her right as someone who did her job. Rory's problem is that she's been to spoiled and self-righteous towards her hypocrisy, and that often got her into trouble. She's gonna have to get over herself
@@crisvanfan no
" I have the high ground" SW episode 3 reference 🤣
Wat is SW?
@@chims6536 Star Wars 👍
@@paulocardoso3142 ohhh thank u for your reply
Rory became a crappy person but Lorelei failed as a parent with this whole drop out of Yale storyline
Not wanting to be her friend during this is acceptable but this is where she needed her parent
Well Rory is 20 at this point, she is a grown adult and if she makes bad decisions that's her responsibility. I don't really see where Lorelei failed as a parent, obviously she wasn't perfect, but keep in mind she was single teenage mom who worked really hard to support a child all by herself, and overall she managed to raise a smart kid who's gotten into a good school and everything, I believe Lorelei really gave Rory everything she needed, throughout her whole childhood she has loved her, showed her support, encouraged her interests and overall has been a pretty good parent. And the fact that Rory as an adult is crappy person, who makes bad decisions and her life sucks isn't Lorelei's fault. I think it's partly the grandparents fault, but most important - it's Rory's own damn fault
@@user-hi1kl6pd4o Lorelai spoiled her and lived vicariously through her in a lot of different ways.
Lorelai failed in the whole show. It’s her fault that Rory can’t handle criticism and failing. She was always telling rory that she is special, and when Rory couldn’t be special she’d throw everything away.
Honestly how Lorelei behaves here seems to me even more childish than Rory's drop out of Yale
She's just as controlling as her own mother.
@@lillyess385
Thank you!!
Nobody notice this. Rory doesn't do anything without her mom's approval and the only time she does things on her own she makes a mess
I totally agree.
When I was young watching this, I idolized their relationship because I had an absent mother and thought this was goals. But now as an adult, I can see Lorelai was a really emotionally immature parent who expected Rory to act out the life she wanted. She repeated the cycle Emily had done to her, just in a different way. She essentially cut Rory off and gave her the silent treatment in order to control her and manipulate her into doing what she wanted. It's no wonder she ends up as an adult who struggles. Lorelai should have parented Rory through this crisis, but if you think about it she never really parented Rory.
I know
Lorelai got stuck at 16 and never really matured and kept the same attitude throughout her whole life. For example when she left the house with baby Rory just because her parents were "too controlling". Well, if my daughter got pregnant at 16 I would be controlling too, and the fact that she never gave Christopher a chance of being a parent even though he wanted to be there and stepped up with the marriage and working with Richard. They're both immature, but Lorelai takes the cake, always acting out of spite, I mean she treats Christopher better than her own parents even when he's missing and they're the ones helping her.
Poor Luke, he deserved better
Whoa, that's a really harsh take. Lorelai was a great mum. Children AND parents are never perfect. Lorelai parented the best way she could during that crisis and Rory had to figure out some stuff on her own. Lorelai was always present and just because she was also friendly and young doesn't mean she was a bad parent 🙄 People have such high expectations of Rory but she turned out fine. Yeah, she might not be pulitzer winning journalist and maybe didn't live up to her full potential, but hey, guess what - not everyone turns out to be exceptional when older. She's not a druggie or a criminal but a young woman who has wins and losses along the way. I don't know if you have kids but when / if you do - you'll soon learn that they grow into themselves and while you can guide them you can't control them into becoming the best versions of themselves.
@@simantha1686
We're not talking about real life, we're talking about that particular show/script.
I think Lorelai is very manipulative and judgemental, she uses and rejects people whenever she pleases. She might be a fun mother but she wasn't the best. She's selfish and doesn't let her daughter (or encourage her) to take chances just because she has prejudice towards the Gilmore's world and when Rory decides something she doesn't approve she shut down and push her away.
@@Dani-so5mg 🙄🙄 when talking about a show and characters you approach them as if they were real characters. You can tell a lot of these commenters don’t have kids - what’s that saying ‘you’re the perfect parent until you are a parent.’
@@simantha1686
Lorelai's character is written as it is, there's no place to assume anything. We analyze her like we see her, like ASP wrote her so we can't think about her like a real person, her whole persona is not real, the eating, the money is not real life behavior.
You can disagree but it doesn't mean I'm not right
I still don't get why people hated A year in life so much. There were many signs through the show Rory is going to be a big failure. This was one of the biggest signs
For me, it is entirely Luke’s rug. Absolutely ruined him. Humiliating
Agree
Its just not funny, not dramatic or interesting.
Lorelai says she will love Rory no matter what and doesn't have controlling expectations for her like Emily and Richard had for her. Yet the minute Rory has doubts about journalism and Yale, Lorelai shuts her out for months and doesn't even tell her she got engaged. It's sad that Lorelai can't see the amount of pressure she doesn't even realize she puts on Rory. (Remember the first episode where Rory doesn't want to go to Chilton, but Lorelai forces her? Or the fourth episode where Lorelai can't remember if maybe it was her own dream for Rory to go to Harvard?) Of course Rory burned out. This episode shows how unforgiving Lorelai is when Rory needs some leniency and space to grow.
She's controlling just like Emily
So because a teenager has a crush on a boy she should not go to a private school that she has been wanting to go to for years and one that gives her an excellent education? 🙄
She should have a choice, just like she should be able to choose to take a semester off Yale after a lifetime of high academic achievement. I think there's an argument to be made that Lorelai actually wanted Rory to go to Chilton and Harvard much more than Rory actually did and that Rory adapts this high-achieving personality to please her mother because both of them want so badly to make up for the shame they feel about the circumstances of her conception. Maybe Chilton was the right choice for Rory, maybe not, but the way Lorelai responds whenever Rory takes a step back from the academic conveyor belt suggests that Rory is still living according to Lorelai's expectations for her more than either of them realize. This becomes even more evident as Rory has more and more turbulent identity crises as she gets older because she made fewer choices for herself growing up than it appears.
Lorelei was way too harsh here, but i think the real reason she was so mad is because of Logan. If rory randomly came to Lorelei asking for time off, I'm sure she would understand. But Rory started hanging out with logan who destroyed Rory's self-esteem in Lorelei's eyes. She even stole a yacht. So Lorelei thinks Rory is destroying her future for a boy which she can't stand. Emily and Richard will never see that because they love how rich Logan's family is. After they found out the truth, they were just as mad as Lorelei and wished they trusted her.
Because Lorelai doesn't see who her daughter really is, and when Rory shows signs of being a Gilmore she gets upset and shuts down like when Rory went to the club with Richard and liked it, or when Rory apply to Yale with out telling her and she flipped out right at dinner or when she came back from the Yale dinner in Logan's limo.
She's just bitter and controlling like Emily
But it has NOTHING to do with Logan whatsoever and Lorelei completely understood that it was about Logan’s dad and not Logan himself. Logan didn’t destroy her self esteem. He didn’t do anything negative to her. He was a great boyfriend to her once they started dating. And she agreed and asked to be a casual hook up situation before they were officially together.
@@Ambereigh yeah Logan was great, I'm talking about his whole family. But you have to remember in Lorelei's eyes, she sees him making out with her daughter at a party. She catches him "cheating" on Rory. She sees Rory calling asking her if she's too quiet and reserved. She sees her daughter crying drunk on the floor saying "why am I not good enough". As a mother, these types of things hurt to see. And yes Rory was very sheltered so it's good she experienced the real world, but Lorelei didn't see it like that. Logan planted the seed in Rory questioning herself, and Logan's family made it grow 10 ft tall. A normal parent would comfort their child and say "that's life" but Lorelei broke down and couldn't believe someone didn't like her perfect daughter...Lorelei should be grateful that family turned Rory into a real adult, but instead she chose to blame them for everything..
@@Dani-so5mg 100% I agree. Lorelei is very controlling in her own way. She claims Rory can do whatever she wants but she judges her every step of the way. I understand why Lorelei gets triggered whenever Rory fits in that world. It's because she gave up EVERYTHING to leave it. It makes her question if leaving was the right choice for Rory (since she fits in), it makes her question if something is wrong with her specifically, etc. but I think she gets used to it over time
@@rustjones385
I don't think she ever got used to it. The whole proposal fiasco was entirely Lorelai's fault. The one person that Rory looked when Logan proposed was her mother and then, on the carriage, Rory confirmed that her mom didn't think it wasn't "the right thing to do"
I think deep down Lorelai was jealous of her own daughter. I hate that the writers never let her be happy and successful next to Logan. The Huntzberger had already taken her in as family and were planning of letting her choose the job she wanted...that could've stay engaged for a year or more, but no, let's do the whole circle thing and let Rory be a failure.
And Lorelai did blamed Logan for everything that happened with Rory on their break
I always take Lorelei’s side over Rory’s but I don’t *believe* the way Lorelei acts here. She’s too much of a mother to play the cold card on Rory like this, and seems ridiculous doing so.
As much as people hate this arch, I thought it was really impactful to see it play out. For so long Lorelei didn't have to struggle in parenting but children/people change as they grow, so sometimes parenting style's gotta change. I can understand how Lorelei might think this is how one does "tough love," if I was in this situation I might act the same way, not knowing how to be a disciplinarian in a healthy way. I might hope too that at the end of it, Rory'd be able to course correct like Jess did when Luke didn't entertain his bs.
I agree with Luke they were both being dumb.
I didn’t like how this all went down Rory left Yale , went to the grandparents and got upset with her mom over nothing is sorta messed up
Rory just wanted a semester off and didn't have another option on where to live while doing it. Of course she is going to ask her grandparents. Lorelai is a mother who not only said she couldn't live at home while doing it but shunned her own daughter for eight months just because she wanted some time off school after a lifetime of perfect performance and high academic achievement. Not even telling Rory they got engaged? Considering how sensitive she is to her own parents being strict and controlling, this is one situation where Lorelai is really horrible to Rory as a mother.
She didn’t get upset with her mom at all. Lorelei got upset with HER and put this block between the, because she wanted a break from school to figure herself out. It was messed up of Lorelei
@@geoffingoffshe wanted way more than a semester. She wasn’t seeking LOA
@@geoffingoff I definitely dont think it was only a semester, she wanted to leave indefinitely. she knew she could come back eventually if she wanted but in the moment I'm pretty sure her plan was NOT to come back in a semester
This makes me so sad "Luke and you getting engaged you hurt me" "Back at you" why do we set out out hurt the ones we love the most.
I get being mad at Lorelai for not telling her that was engaged but she moved into her grandparents pool house behind Lorelei’s back. She saw her mom watch her packing and ignored her in the season finale. Lorelai has a good reason to be mad.
Luke was 100% right, just because Lorelei was not approving decisions Rory was making doesn't mean she can just withhold important news that Luke was going to be a step dad to Rory and leave Rory to figure it out on her own. Very petty of Lorelei to do that even if she was still mad at Rory and she was putting Luke in the awkward spot.
I think lorelai thought she was doing good by not talking to Rory, but it’s toxic behaviour…if Rory wanted to quit Yale, it was Rory decision not hers…
Luke is Obi Wan
Roy- forever child ..Lorelei is a single mother, who lived thru her daughter . Z-zzz
It's a story folks!!! Geez
I swear when somebody comes out and exposes Lukes 'toxic traits' I'm losing my sh*t.
lorelai can really suck at decisions sometimes. really.
And rory cant?????????
This fight of theirs was so dumb. Not talking to Rory because of her taking a break from school? So hypocritical of Lorelei and stupid. Rory was also super immature. Just cause Logan’s dad said she didn’t have it (which he had some good points) and Rory here just ran away from her problems instead of using the feedback to improve.
I don't know how viewers related to these girls. The premise of a privileged young woman doing her own thing and raising a child, ultimately finding a good paying supervisory position based on I don't know what anymore, is basically an obnoxious story about flawless people who can't help but succeed. The daughter goes to Harvard based on her merits, not her upper middle class grandparents' affluence or social distinction.The subtext is, they deserve their station in life, and you deserve yours. Insufferable and unrealistic.